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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:13:14 GMT -5
OMG Kelly doesnt need you to fight for her...how bout gifting Never Again on itunes or go request it!!! It's not a question of Kelly needing me or anyone else to fight for her. I just don't like being taken for a fool. Well then don't be a fool. Its pretty easy to take someone for a fool when they are acting like one.
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Post by Patches on May 7, 2007 22:14:30 GMT -5
that everything she touches will turn to gold platinum
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Post by Peach on May 7, 2007 22:14:45 GMT -5
ROFL. Don't bother responding to the crazed Kelly fan, David.
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:16:01 GMT -5
ROFL. Don't bother responding to the crazed Kelly fan, David. LOL! I know. Serously. I only start fanwars with people I know can take a joke. Otherwise I don't do it. haha Well, not anymore anyways! I have been good lately!
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Post by Jeff on May 7, 2007 22:18:00 GMT -5
Wow, i get banned for a week for stating my opinion of the mods and admins job performance, then i come back to trolls and non stop bickering. I see now why I was banned, the truth hurts. haha
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:19:13 GMT -5
No, but you can disagree with someone in a more respectful way. I come here to discuss Kelly and other artists, and it's annoying when fanwars disrupt the flow of the conversation. This is NOT a fan board. It's not a fan board... Are you telling me that ONLY non-fan music lovers populate this site, and that no one here ever knocks any artist for anything but the purest motives?
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Post by Patches on May 7, 2007 22:19:54 GMT -5
Wow, i get banned for a week for stating my opinion of the mods and admins job performance SMASH!!!
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:20:17 GMT -5
Wow, i get banned for a week for stating my opinion of the mods and admins job performance, then i come back to trolls and non stop bickering. I see now why I was banned, the truth hurts. haha HAHAH! You were banned too?? Its good to have you back!
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:20:56 GMT -5
It's not a question of Kelly needing me or anyone else to fight for her. I just don't like being taken for a fool. Well then don't be a fool. Its pretty easy to take someone for a fool when they are acting like one. Yeppers...very easy. So now that I have been properly chastised by all you pure-of-heart types out there, I suppose I need to slink away. Ah well, such is life.
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:21:10 GMT -5
No, but you can disagree with someone in a more respectful way. I come here to discuss Kelly and other artists, and it's annoying when fanwars disrupt the flow of the conversation. This is NOT a fan board. It's not a fan board... Are you telling me that ONLY non-fan music lovers populate this site, and that no one here ever knocks any artist for anything but the purest motives? UGH! I am soo over trying to get through to you. Whatever. Continue being a douche and see where it gets you. Banland!
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:21:45 GMT -5
Well then don't be a fool. Its pretty easy to take someone for a fool when they are acting like one. Yeppers...very easy. So now that I have been properly chastised by all you pure-of-heart types out there, I suppose I need to slink away. Ah well, such is life. It was nice chatting! Have a good one.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 7, 2007 22:22:01 GMT -5
ooookay, ignoring SOME of the comments in here, I will address others I am not trying to say she will disappear if this is not a smash. Obviously, she will not. However, I have seen artists go from multiplatinum hits to flops in a split second. I have seen artists tear apart professional connections and stay so focused on one thing and getting their way that they cannot even be on a label and struggle to make cds/promote them. I personally do not want that to happen to Kelly. I am not saying it has. Far from it. She has always struck me as smart AND strong. She is strong for wanting to promote her own vision, so I am hoping she will be smart in perhaps giving a little bit so that her vision can be heard and sell. By no means did I say she should record a song like Umbrella. You can be radio friendly and good (as seen with Breakaway!) I have said it before and I will again-I want Kelly to last. 20 years from now I want to see her releasing a new cd. (Or a GH special ;) ) Part of lasting in the industry and being able to create a vision is listening to others and building a career with connections and status. I do not want her to damage her long term career because of wanting it all her way right now. However, I do think that if she releases one catchy song it will be all over. She would be #1 on multiple formats lol. Its not like she is having a huge crisis/backlash. Im just voicing some possible concerns or ideas about her future.
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Post by Patches on May 7, 2007 22:22:14 GMT -5
LMAO!! No u DI-ENT David!
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Post by pyrates on May 7, 2007 22:23:13 GMT -5
No, I'm not saying that all. But you can be the bigger person and ignore the trolls. Trust me, it's less stressful that way.
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:24:31 GMT -5
ROFL. Don't bother responding to the crazed Kelly fan, David. Too bad I'm not a "crazed Kelly fan." I just love all the assumptions thrown around so easily.
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:25:19 GMT -5
ooookay, ignoring SOME of the comments in here, I will address others I am not trying to say she will disappear if this is not a smash. Obviously, she will not. However, I have seen artists go from multiplatinum hits to flops in a split second. I have seen artists tear apart professional connections and stay so focused on one thing and getting their way that they cannot even be on a label and struggle to make cds/promote them. I personally do not want that to happen to Kelly. I am not saying it has. Far from it. She has always struck me as smart AND strong. She is strong for wanting to promote her own vision, so I am hoping she will be smart in perhaps giving a little bit so that her vision can be heard and sell. By no means did I say she should record a song like Umbrella. You can be radio friendly and good (as seen with Breakaway!) I have said it before and I will again-I want Kelly to last. 20 years from now I want to see her releasing a new cd. (Or a GH special ;) ) Part of lasting in the industry and being able to create a vision is listening to others and building a career with connections and status. I do not want her to damage her long term career because of wanting it all her way right now. However, I do think that if she releases one catchy song it will be all over. She would be #1 on multiple formats lol. Its not like she is having a huge crisis/backlash. Im just voicing some possible concerns or ideas about her future. I totally agree with your post. I hope she is around for quite some time too. I think it was in a Billboard article where someone said something like, "The singers that do what they want to do and have an edge and don't try and be some cookie cutter pop star will be the artists that will last." it was something to that effect. haha Even if she does flop, for her standards, she will be back. You can only keep a good artist in flopsville for so long.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 7, 2007 22:25:59 GMT -5
LMAO!! No u DI-ENT David! LMAO I actually said that out loud in my own little accent
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:26:42 GMT -5
It's not a fan board... Are you telling me that ONLY non-fan music lovers populate this site, and that no one here ever knocks any artist for anything but the purest motives? UGH! I am soo over trying to get through to you. Whatever. Continue being a douche and see where it gets you. Banland! Ooooo...I'm worried now. Like I won't be able to make next month's rent if I get banned from here, LOL! If you -- or anyone else -- wants to have a discussion without trying to tell me what I can and cannot say, and how to behave, and all the other nonsense thrown around here to shut people up, then we're on to something.
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Post by muscleclub on May 7, 2007 22:27:56 GMT -5
Weird chart today so don't rush to write this off. I think it's far from over, actually!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 7, 2007 22:29:30 GMT -5
Weird chart today so don't rush to write this off. I think it's from over, actually! I hope you are right. I normally like to be more cynical about songs than positive especially when a bullet loses that much that quickly (I mean, it was dropping even before the weirdness today) but I hope it can rebound and at least go top 15.
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:29:45 GMT -5
UGH! I am soo over trying to get through to you. Whatever. Continue being a douche and see where it gets you. Banland! Ooooo...I'm worried now. Like I won't be able to make next month's rent if I get banned from here, LOL! If you -- or anyone else -- wants to have a discussion without trying to tell me what I can and cannot say, and how to behave, and all the other nonsense thrown around here to shut people up, then we're on to something. LOL! That was actually funny. And how are the rules nonsense?? I must have missed something when I got banned for breaking rule #1!
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Post by doodlebug on May 7, 2007 22:31:45 GMT -5
lmao. I love this thread! *gets popcorn* Scooch over -- here, have a handful
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:33:25 GMT -5
...so I am hoping she will be smart in perhaps giving a little bit so that her vision can be heard and sell. Good post. I picked out the one statement you made above for a reason. That's what I've been arguing against. I'm asking you this as politely as I can...who says Kelly isn't giving "a little bit?" It's quite a leap to make, from an artist saying they want to try something different to assuming that the artist is being willful, stubborn, not listening to others, thinking "everything" they touch turns to gold, and so on. All of which has been said above in one way or another. On this board, it seems that people can make such claims with impunity, but if someone comes along, like myself, and argues strongly against it, the crowd finds a way to shut you down.
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Post by justfloating on May 7, 2007 22:33:53 GMT -5
^um...i dont think anyone cares and you said you were leaving so....lol...seriously, it's clear you just need and want someone to talk to, otherwise you would stop replying and sitting at your computer waiting for a new reply to your posts. It's kind of pathetic just FYI so you know.
So, I think Kelly is transitioning and this will not sell as well as Breakaway but it's a crucial perioud in her maturation that she needs to take. This album will be better than Breakaway but that's no guarantee it will sell more.
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Post by Peach on May 7, 2007 22:34:08 GMT -5
ROFL. Don't bother responding to the crazed Kelly fan, David. Too bad I'm not a "crazed Kelly fan." I just love all the assumptions thrown around so easily. LOL! That's a good one. Quit while you're behind, schnookums. ANYWAY. There is definitely something wrong with the chart today. Almost every song lost spins, so I don't think it's quite over yet for "Never Again".
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:35:59 GMT -5
Too bad I'm not a "crazed Kelly fan." I just love all the assumptions thrown around so easily. LOL! That's a good one. Quit while you're behind, schnookums. ANYWAY. There is definitely something wrong with the chart today. Almost every song lost spins, so I don't think it's quite over yet for "Never Again". Yeah, basically every song lost like 100+ spins.
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:36:29 GMT -5
No, I'm not saying that all. But you can be the bigger person and ignore the trolls. Trust me, it's less stressful that way. You're right. It is less stressful that way...if one gets stressed by this kind of give and take. As for being a bigger person, that's good advice, and 99.9% of the time I'd do exactly that. But every now and again, it's healthy to fight back if you see something you think is wrong. Tonight was such a moment for me.
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Post by pyrates on May 7, 2007 22:36:50 GMT -5
I agree with some of your comments LPL, I have the same worries too. I would also like NA be a radio hit, but I'm also not stressing too much about it, yet, because I like the song and the other songs that have been previewed (especially Maybe). So if the album is good, but she doesn't sell as many copies, I'm ok with that, and I think Kelly is too.
As to listening to others: more often then not, I agree with Kelly v. what the record company wanted. She wanted BOY on Thankful, the label completely shut her down. They wanted Some Kind of Miracle to be the first single, she fought for Miss Independent. Clive didn't like the album Breakaway, when he first heard it, ect., ect. So in the long run, I think Kelly will be OK. Because I'm with you, I also want to hear Kelly music, 20 or 30 years from now.
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:38:02 GMT -5
Ooooo...I'm worried now. Like I won't be able to make next month's rent if I get banned from here, LOL! If you -- or anyone else -- wants to have a discussion without trying to tell me what I can and cannot say, and how to behave, and all the other nonsense thrown around here to shut people up, then we're on to something. And what is rule #1. I ask that genuinely since I don't know. I rarely post here and don't know the rules beyond keeping it clean and such. LOL! That was actually funny. And how are the rules nonsense?? I must have missed something when I got banned for breaking rule #1!
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:38:30 GMT -5
Too bad I'm not a "crazed Kelly fan." I just love all the assumptions thrown around so easily. LOL! That's a good one. Quit while you're behind, schnookums. LOL! He says he isn't a Kelly fan, yet 21 of his 22 posts have been in this thread! LMAO!
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