Bluesy
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:39:26 GMT -5
^um...i dont think anyone cares and you said you were leaving so....lol...seriously, it's clear you just need and want someone to talk to, otherwise you would stop replying and sitting at your computer waiting for a new reply to your posts. It's kind of pathetic just FYI so you know. So, I think Kelly is transitioning and this will not sell as well as Breakaway but it's a crucial perioud in her maturation that she needs to take. This album will be better than Breakaway but that's no guarantee it will sell more. Ummm...you apparently don't recognize sarcasm when you see it. As for replying to posts, isn't that what happens on a forum? Or am I missing something?
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:39:49 GMT -5
And what is rule #1. I ask that genuinely since I don't know. I rarely post here and don't know the rules beyond keeping it clean and such. LOL! That was actually funny. And how are the rules nonsense?? I must have missed something when I got banned for breaking rule #1! LOL! Well, rule #1 wouldn't apply to you anyways. haha Rule #1 is no creating duplicate accounts. But rules are rules and spouting off anger at other posters in such a rude way IS against the rules.
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:40:51 GMT -5
^um...i dont think anyone cares and you said you were leaving so....lol...seriously, it's clear you just need and want someone to talk to, otherwise you would stop replying and sitting at your computer waiting for a new reply to your posts. It's kind of pathetic just FYI so you know. So, I think Kelly is transitioning and this will not sell as well as Breakaway but it's a crucial perioud in her maturation that she needs to take. This album will be better than Breakaway but that's no guarantee it will sell more. Ummm...you apparently don't recognize sarcasm when you see it. As for replying to posts, isn't that what happens on a forum? Or am I missing something? OMG! I just realized who your typing habits remind me of!! Actuallyinradio! lol I am not saying you are him, but you type JUST like he did. The way you say things and everything. lol
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Bluesy
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:41:07 GMT -5
LOL! That's a good one. Quit while you're behind, schnookums. LOL! He says he isn't a Kelly fan, yet 21 of his 22 posts have been in this thread! LMAO! Wrong. I said I wasn't a "crazed" Kelly fan. I don't post here much at all.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 7, 2007 22:42:06 GMT -5
Yes, I do think Kelly has some good instincts. Thats why I am not too scared she will follow the way of others I have seen who lack those instincts.
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:43:29 GMT -5
LOL! Well, rule #1 wouldn't apply to you anyways. haha Rule #1 is no creating duplicate accounts. But rules are rules and spouting off anger at other posters in such a rude way IS against the rules. Well in that case, since I'm not a rule breaker, I'll apologize. But I still think I was right in pushing back against negative claims stated as fact which were not fact at all, but that person's opinion.
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 22:43:35 GMT -5
LOL! He says he isn't a Kelly fan, yet 21 of his 22 posts have been in this thread! LMAO! Wrong. I said I wasn't a "crazed" Kelly fan. I don't post here much at all. Oh. lol. Well you put quotes around the whole thing. lol Either way, you have only really posted in here. There are other threads on this board you know. Some are quite interesting. You should check them out.
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Post by Peach on May 7, 2007 22:43:39 GMT -5
lmao. I love this thread! *gets popcorn* Scooch over -- here, have a handful Yummy! Thanks! I think I'll just spectate from here on out. ;)
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Post by justfloating on May 7, 2007 22:43:49 GMT -5
^um...i dont think anyone cares and you said you were leaving so....lol...seriously, it's clear you just need and want someone to talk to, otherwise you would stop replying and sitting at your computer waiting for a new reply to your posts. It's kind of pathetic just FYI so you know. So, I think Kelly is transitioning and this will not sell as well as Breakaway but it's a crucial perioud in her maturation that she needs to take. This album will be better than Breakaway but that's no guarantee it will sell more. Ummm...you apparently don't recognize sarcasm when you see it. As for replying to posts, isn't that what happens on a forum? Or am I missing something? Ummm...apparently neither do you lol since most of my post was sarcastic. I was referring to have you are arguing about nothing that has to do with Never Again which is like what this thread is about and maybe you should talk about the song instead of the so called restrictions on your talking about the song. I promise, nobody is going to prevent you from being rude, so go ahead. Its all up to you. the beauty of 4 walls and a door.
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Post by JORDAN on May 7, 2007 22:48:03 GMT -5
so ANYWAYS. about the song.. Video was #6 on TRL today! Usually Kelly songs move up faster (BTHE debuted at #1, didn't it?) but, TRL is pretty much rigged anyways so it dont matter that much. As long as she's there. : )
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:49:20 GMT -5
Ummm...you apparently don't recognize sarcasm when you see it. As for replying to posts, isn't that what happens on a forum? Or am I missing something? OMG! I just realized who your typing habits remind me of!! Actuallyinradio! lol I am not saying you are him, but you type JUST like he did. The way you say things and everything. lol Oh goody. So now I'm somebody else. Well let me clue you in -- although anything anyone says on the internet can't be verified. I have exactly one screen name here, and I signed up exactly once. I have lurked here for a long time, and was motivated to sign up awhile back to protest some really vile language that a guy was using as his tagline in every post, in large lettering. So I figured since I signed up, I might as well post once in awhile. I'm a writer by profession. Started out my career as a journalist and changed to the corporate IT world and politics. I write with what is known as a strong "voice."
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Post by When I Ruled the World on May 7, 2007 22:49:26 GMT -5
Who cares of she flops?
She knew very well this was a risky song... I stand by her choice to not be radio friendly... if all the songs are like NA, I don't see her reaching 2 million (*rolls eyes, OMG, 1.5 million is such a flop, lol).
BUT IT WILL BE HER VISION! Good for her....
If her 3rd album sells 1.5 million (practically a given) If her 4th album is as radio friendly as "Breakaway", she'll sell another 5 million.
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 22:52:10 GMT -5
Wrong. I said I wasn't a "crazed" Kelly fan. I don't post here much at all. Oh. lol. Well you put quotes around the whole thing. lol Either way, you have only really posted in here. There are other threads on this board you know. Some are quite interesting. You should check them out. I put quotes around the whole thing because I was quoting another person. Funny how that works. And yes, I only post on this board. I have limited time, so I pick what's interesting to me. This whole brouhaha over 'Never Again' interests me.
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Post by pyrates on May 7, 2007 22:55:44 GMT -5
I think BOY debuted at #1. Is this is the first Kelly vid on TRL since the format changed?
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Post by Bluesy on May 7, 2007 23:02:13 GMT -5
Ummm...you apparently don't recognize sarcasm when you see it. As for replying to posts, isn't that what happens on a forum? Or am I missing something? Ummm...apparently neither do you lol since most of my post was sarcastic. I was referring to have you are arguing about nothing that has to do with Never Again which is like what this thread is about and maybe you should talk about the song instead of the so called restrictions on your talking about the song. I promise, nobody is going to prevent you from being rude, so go ahead. Its all up to you. the beauty of 4 walls and a door. Ok, you have a point. Maybe I should talk about the song. I have mixed feelings about it. In my opinion, I think it is too much like Kelly's stuff on the Breakaway album. I mean, how many songs do we have to hear from her that are about some guy who did her wrong, and how bad he is, and how glad she is to be rid of him? On the other hand, the music and Kelly's vocals are interesting. Trust me, I most definitely am not into a lot of the commercial pap that passes for Pop music these days. So again, I have mixed feeling about this song. I'm not sure what folks around here mean when they say a song is not "radio friendly." Never Again is not all that different from a lot of stuff out there, so it should do OK on radio. I'm more curious why this song hit such a sudden brick wall. To use a metaphor, if radio was a lamp, and Never Again was light, it's almost like someone flipped a switch and turned it off. Forgive me, but I'm too much of a skeptic to think a song that is barely out in release blows up and suddenly stops like that all on its own.
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Post by JORDAN on May 7, 2007 23:08:02 GMT -5
I think BOY debuted at #1. Is this is the first Kelly vid on TRL since the format changed? This is Kelly's first video since Walk Away in like feb/march 2006.. When did the format change? / what do you mean by that? lol
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Focus
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Post by Focus on May 7, 2007 23:11:00 GMT -5
Kelly's singing Never Again tomorrow on the Today Show and Letterman.
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Post by kellyfan1232 on May 7, 2007 23:12:10 GMT -5
WA was at the time when you could vote on phone and online, and TRL was actually live.
So i'm actually not suprised that NA hasnt reached no. 1 yet. It's so rigged, not just to Kelly but for every artist.
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Post by pyrates on May 7, 2007 23:15:34 GMT -5
Jordan <Baby McPh!nkch>, sorry for the confusion, I meant the voting rules on TRL. I don't watch the show, but it seems like the voting rules seems to have changed. And the show is no longer live, right? (Or was it never really Live, and they've been fooling us?)
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Post by When I Ruled the World on May 7, 2007 23:16:18 GMT -5
Does anyone else seriously think this song won't go Top 10 on Pop, LOL?
Is RCA that mad at her that they won't help her out, lol? I guess we have to wait and see what the live performances do for her, lol, but I just refuse to believe that RCA will let Kelly Clarkson underperform on the POP chart, lol. Come on, RCA, bring on the Payola, lol. What Gives?
I think we'll have a much better idea of where this song is headed 2 weeks from now, lol!
This song DESERVES Top 10!
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Post by Focus on May 7, 2007 23:16:49 GMT -5
Someone with inside connections said that if she sings a second song on The Today Show, that it will be Walk Away. That will only be the 2nd time Kelly has sung WA on t.v. I'd rather a new song for a 2nd song, but if that's not happening then WA sounds like an awesome choice to me.
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 23:20:09 GMT -5
OMG! I just realized who your typing habits remind me of!! Actuallyinradio! lol I am not saying you are him, but you type JUST like he did. The way you say things and everything. lol Oh goody. So now I'm somebody else. Well let me clue you in -- although anything anyone says on the internet can't be verified. I have exactly one screen name here, and I signed up exactly once. I have lurked here for a long time, and was motivated to sign up awhile back to protest some really vile language that a guy was using as his tagline in every post, in large lettering. So I figured since I signed up, I might as well post once in awhile. I'm a writer by profession. Started out my career as a journalist and changed to the corporate IT world and politics. I write with what is known as a strong "voice." LOL! I know you aren't AIR! I wasn't saying you are. I was just saying your typing habits remind me of his. lol I never said you WERE him. I just said you reminded me of him. And you do.
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Post by JORDAN on May 7, 2007 23:41:15 GMT -5
Jordan <Baby McPh!nkch>, sorry for the confusion, I meant the voting rules on TRL. I don't watch the show, but it seems like the voting rules seems to have changed. And the show is no longer live, right? (Or was it never really Live, and they've been fooling us?) Your right! they did chage! Back then , people could vote online AND call in. But they've eliminated the calling in part. I dont know if that was back when Kelly's videos were on or not. And recently MTV i guess has admitted to taping 2 shows a week or something. but everyone knows they were taped all along. TRL is flopping. :(
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Post by Marv on May 7, 2007 23:55:51 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how this song did NOT debut in BBs Hot 100 at #8 (three slots behind 'I'll Stand By You's' debut at #5) until THIS WEEK ????????
Thank goodness for the consistency and accuracy of Mediabase.
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Post by dperkins on May 7, 2007 23:59:06 GMT -5
Because it was just a little off in AI's before. It was #1 on the Bubbling Under chart the week before it debuted. #1 on Bubbling Under is really #101 on the Hot 100 in case anyone isn't aware. lol So she was close to debuting, but barely missed it.
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Post by GiggaWho on May 8, 2007 0:03:54 GMT -5
Please cut out the fan war crap. I cannot say this enough. This is not a fan board. Let other people have their opinions. Yes, even people with the word "Carrie" in their name. If you think they are trolling and not just expressing an opinion, pm a mod. Kelly does not need for you to defend her honor by attacking other posters.
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Post by dperkins on May 8, 2007 0:12:56 GMT -5
Please cut out the fan war crap. I cannot say this enough. This is not a fan board. Let other people have their opinions. Yes, even people with the word "Carrie" in their name. If you think they are trolling and not just expressing an opinion, pm a mod. Kelly does not need for you to defend her honor by attacking other posters.
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Post by muscleclub on May 8, 2007 0:19:08 GMT -5
I can't wait for the live performances!
I don't get the :( faces around here lately because obviously after that crazy first week of spinning the song would slow down for a while. Many "older" good songs are fighting for that Top 10 right now ... "Never Again" is still a baby and I am patiently waiting for the explosion because I think it's coming!
Some interesting stats:
+10 spins on z100 ... on their countdown every single day since they added it ... good indication that they will increase its spins even more soon. +30 on Philly +4 on Boston +5 on Washington & top 10 already.
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Post by theflying on May 8, 2007 1:30:02 GMT -5
Uh, no it's not. Why do you think they have a different name for the chart? Bubbling Under is for new songs and songs that haven't debuted on the Hot 100 yet. It's perfectly possible the week before song #101 was something that had slightly less audience impressions than song #100 and had been sliding down the chart for a few weeks.
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Post by dperkins on May 8, 2007 1:32:27 GMT -5
Uh, no it's not. Why do you think they have a different name for the chart? Bubbling Under is for new songs and songs that haven't debuted on the Hot 100 yet. It's perfectly possible the week before song #101 was something that had slightly less audience impressions than song #100 and had been sliding down the chart for a few weeks. Umm..yeah it is! lol The Bubbling Under is songs that didn't make it onto the chart yet. If a song is #1 on the Bubbling Under it IS #101 on the Hot 100. lol However, its new songs that haven't charted yet. The Bubbling Under chart is the 25 positions below #100. However, if a song has already made the Hot 100 it can't go back into the Bubbling Under chart if it were to drop off the Hot 100. But the song can still re-enter the Hot 100 chart.
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