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Post by singingsparrow on May 12, 2009 18:20:54 GMT -5
I didnt think the bullet would stay this strong for weeks after the debut. This is doing reallllly well on Alt. I think it has to do with the hype upon the album's release Friday. Usually it's natural for more blockbuster releases to buoy the lead single's performance as well. Obviously it wasn't the case with U2's "Get On Your Boots" since "No Line On The Horizon" was leaked over two weeks in advance and it got a lukewarm reception to begin with, but it's certainly something we've seen with lead singles from Foo Fighters, Linkin Park and Weezer releases, among others. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Ron57 on May 12, 2009 20:08:14 GMT -5
Hmm, I remember that we compared Nickelback's All The Right Reasons to Dark Horse in terms of singles somewhere in Pulse. Like for example, "Somethting In Your Mouth" being All The Right Reasons' "Animals". What about doing this with Green Day, especially considering American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown have a similar sound. It would be funny. :) I will start: American Idiot / 21st Century Breakdown "American Idiot" / "Know Your Enemy" "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams" / "21 Guns" "Holiday" / "East Jesus Nowhere" "Wake Me Up When September Ends" / "Restless Heart Syndrome" "Jesus Of Suburbia" / "American Eulogy" Those aren't my favorite songs from 21st Century Breakdown, neither those I think that will be singles, those are more like the songs from 21st Century Breakdown I would compare to American Idiot's singles. While I strongly agree overall with your (more or less) album track parallels with singles from the previous era here, regarding the point following your post about this even making a great single release strategy, I would set up the singles like this: * 1: "Know Your Enemy"2: "21 Guns" (Obvious follow-up choice) 3: "Before The Lobotomy" (Personal favorite this era, with an epic feel yet also carries through as a strong single) 4: "Last Night On Earth" (With light polishing, this could make an effective crossover release) 5: "Horseshoes And Handgrenades" (End the era with something fierce) * Sincerely, Noah Eaton I find nothing special about Horseshoes and Handgrenades. I'd pick East Jesus Nowhere instead.
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Post by jgsports37 on May 12, 2009 23:06:15 GMT -5
im just going to wait and pick this up on the 15th i suppose
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 12, 2009 23:35:43 GMT -5
With the number of songs they have on this album, I'm thinking they could maybe go 6, even 7 deep with this album? That said, hopefully this album does 300k its first week.
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Post by Ron57 on May 13, 2009 18:19:35 GMT -5
I think I'll be pleased as long as 21 Guns (obviously it will though), Peacemaker, and East Jesus Nowhere are singles.
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Post by jmac on May 13, 2009 19:14:12 GMT -5
Back up to #18 on itunes.
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Post by PHOBES on May 13, 2009 21:31:54 GMT -5
Against my better judgment, I went ahead and pre-ordered this one. Who knows, maybe I'll be surprised.
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Post by when the pawn... on May 13, 2009 22:16:44 GMT -5
Waiting to listen until Friday morning...CAN'T WAIT!
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Post by Physical on May 14, 2009 13:59:21 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the album yet, but I'm definitely buying it tomorrow. I can't wait! If it really is better than American Idiot, I will jizz in my pants.
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Post by jmac on May 14, 2009 15:17:38 GMT -5
Album is predicted to debut at number one with only 3 day's sales.
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Post by Young Money on May 14, 2009 18:24:08 GMT -5
Very expected.
I will have the album around 11 AM tomorrow. I'll post my review at 12/1 PM.
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Post by Young Money on May 15, 2009 14:20:13 GMT -5
Very good album! I love "21 Guns".
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 15:55:10 GMT -5
Great album, not really a weak track on it IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 15:55:48 GMT -5
Oh, and 'Murder City' is wicked.
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Post by PHOBES on May 15, 2009 16:58:41 GMT -5
The 22 tracks I got on itunes were ALMOST worth the $15 I spent for it. It's an ok album I guess, not as good as American Idiot, but I really wouldn't expect it to be so I'm fine with it.
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Post by Cody on May 15, 2009 17:30:32 GMT -5
Im listening to it now, in order, currently on "Restless Heart Syndrome" So far other than KYE, the only future singles I think can happen "iViva La Gloria!" and "Last Of The American Girls." And of course I have previously heard "21 Guns" which seems like the obvious 2nd single
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Post by aTunes on May 15, 2009 23:05:47 GMT -5
I'm really liking this album actually. I think I may prefer it on an overall basis to AI, though I don't think any one song in particular tops BOBD, Holiday, or WMUWSE. 21 Guns, East Jesus Nowhere, and 21st Century Breakdown are my 3 favs at the moment. Other standouts for me are Peacemaker, Last of the American Girls, Last Night On Earth (they do a stripped down piano ballad unexpectedly well), Restless Heart Syndrome, and Before the Lobotomy. There's really not a single song I dislike though. This is definitely above my expectations.
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Post by aTunes on May 15, 2009 23:12:36 GMT -5
BTW, I had no idea Billie Joes' voice was capable of some of the stuff he does on this album.This is head and shoulders the strongest his voice has ever sounded in their career, imo.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 17, 2009 2:02:48 GMT -5
I'm not wowed by "21 Guns" based on 2-3 listens now. Granted I didn't have the chance to give it my undivided attention, but nothing on the album blew me away on the first listen. Instead it seems the songs are more designed to advance a concept album rather than stand alone as truly great songs. Really it just felt like American Idiot 2. I'm sure my opinion will evolve positively over time, though. I perceived Beatles influences on "Last Night On Earth", 70's arena-rock sensibilities on "21 Guns" I didn't read your review or any other album-centric comments before listening to the whole thing myself, but I too recalled a John Lennon-sung Beatles piano ballad when hearing "Last Night on Earth." The immediate '70's arena-rock sensibility I heard on "21 Guns" came courtesy of its "All the Young Dudes" ("Twen-ty One Guns") like melody. The other stolen melody I noticed is all over the intro and outro of "Before the Lobotomy." Totally lifted from Dexy's Midnight Runners' "Come on Eileen": Dreaming I am only dreaming Of another place and time vs. You're grown (a grown up) So grown (so grown up) Now I must say more than ever Or if you like: Singing I can hear them singing when the rain had washed away vs. But not us (no never) No, not us (no never) We are far too young and clever
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on May 17, 2009 2:52:49 GMT -5
I've been singing All the Young Dudes since I heard 21 Guns....glad I'm not the only one.
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Post by aTunes on May 17, 2009 23:08:48 GMT -5
I've decided this song is actually my 3rd least favorite on the whole album. See the Light and Christian's Inferno are the only 2 I like less.
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Post by fran182 on May 18, 2009 10:24:29 GMT -5
Today, it reached #1 on Mediabase Active:
2 1 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 1953 1901 52 6.591
75 stations playing.
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Post by Ron57 on May 19, 2009 15:27:16 GMT -5
I've decided this song is actually my 3rd least favorite on the whole album. See the Light and Christian's Inferno are the only 2 I like less. Agreed. Except the only 2 I like less are See the Light and Last of the American Girls. See the Light is probably right above KYE
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 19, 2009 17:15:56 GMT -5
I don't know how it took me 3 listens to "Horseshoes and Handgrenades" to realize it sounds an awful lot like "Main Offender" by the Hives.
Also, "21 Guns" is growing on me and I like "Restless Heart Syndrome" now.
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Post by fran182 on May 21, 2009 15:55:15 GMT -5
Anyone knows what's the record for the #1 song with most spins on Alternative? Mediabase or BDS/Billboard, it doesn't matter...
Wondering, cause on Mediabase this one got over 2500 spins. It peaked with around 2600 spins, last week.
Take a look at today's update:
1 1 GREEN DAY Know Your Enemy 2432 2617 -185 11.862
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Post by when the pawn... on May 21, 2009 18:20:42 GMT -5
I remember Somewhere I Belong & Bring me to Life at the top around 3000 spins...was the format much different earlier in the decade?
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Post by American Idiot on May 21, 2009 18:25:45 GMT -5
I remember Somewhere I Belong & Bring me to Life at the top around 3000 spins...was the format much different earlier in the decade? I wouldn't say it was as far as what sub-genres were played on Alternative, but I have never seen a time period like now where so many of the bigger bands with many albums under their belt had singles out currently, so back then I'm sure there wasn't anywhere as much competition to fight for spins.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on May 23, 2009 2:04:51 GMT -5
Does anyone have any old spin data for "Numb"? That one was at least 3000 for several weeks.
How many did "The Pretender" ever rack up in a week?
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Post by crash46 on May 23, 2009 10:05:03 GMT -5
"The Pretender" maxed out at 2640 plays, right before "Long Road" hit its stride.
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Post by Matt4319 on May 23, 2009 10:16:21 GMT -5
If you want to go back 5-6 years, I think "You Know You're Right" may have even threatened 4,000 spins at one point. Pretty sure the panel was a good bit larger then, though.
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