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Post by pen on Aug 19, 2009 0:35:45 GMT -5
Cartel ran away.
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Post by The Party Captain on Aug 19, 2009 19:58:19 GMT -5
I think Weezer will beat Creed.
I wonder if Train can beat Flyleaf.
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Post by Cody on Aug 20, 2009 9:19:28 GMT -5
I think Weezer will beat Creed. Not gonna happen man. The Red Album was Weezer's worst sales wise, and actually debuted at #4. Creed is just too big for Weezer to beat them, look at their album's US certifications. My Own Prison: 6x Platinum Human Clay: 11x Platinum Weathered: 6x Platinum Greatest Hits: 2x Platinum Creed is gonna blow Weezer away, although Id love if Weezer can get to #2 that week, that would be cool |
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Post by halo19 on Aug 20, 2009 10:21:34 GMT -5
I kind of think that Flyleaf will outsell Weezer and not just Creed. Flyleaf's first one did really well. Train will likely be insignificant. Who remembers that "Cab" album, for instance?  |
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Post by fran182 on Aug 20, 2009 10:58:32 GMT -5
My first week sales prediction for the new Weezer, Creed and Flyleaf records:
Creed - 269k;
Fyleaf - 120k;
Weezer - 81k.
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Post by Cody on Aug 20, 2009 11:49:26 GMT -5
I think it'll be closer to
Creed - 280k
Flyleaf - 95k
Weezer - 70k
Train - 45k
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Post by pen on Aug 20, 2009 13:12:35 GMT -5
You guys are assuming that people still remember Flyleaf. They haven't had a single for quite a long while and their album came out four years ago.
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Post by WotUNeed on Aug 20, 2009 13:39:57 GMT -5
I think, if new Wilco can bring in nearly 100k, new Weezer can do about the same. Not the same type of music, but they both have quirky frontmen and a lot of lyrical appeal, and I think both bands have similar fan base size and devotion.
This could just be wishful thinking, though. And I guess it'll also depend on how well "I Want You To" takes off, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't be a reasonably big Alt hit. Not sure about crossover potential. I can't even remember now, did they send anything off the red album to other formats?
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Post by Matt4319 on Aug 20, 2009 13:41:43 GMT -5
I think, if new Wilco can bring in nearly 100k, new Weezer can do about the same. Not the same type of music, but they both have quirky frontmen and a lot of lyrical appeal, and I think both bands have similar fan base size and devotion. This could just be wishful thinking, though. And I guess it'll also depend on how well "I Want You To" takes off, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't be a reasonably big Alt hit. Not sure about crossover potential. I can't even remember now, did they send anything off the red album to other formats? I thought for sure "Pork and Beans" was going to Pop, but I don't think they sent it. |
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Post by Matt4319 on Aug 20, 2009 13:52:09 GMT -5
Quick Cut:
1 Hot AC
2 Pop
16 AAA
15 Active
210 Alt
5 Rock
Looks like it will debut on Alt tomorrow.
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Post by fran182 on Aug 20, 2009 16:28:00 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 50 on Mediabase Alternative:
- 45 WEEZER (If You're Wondering If I Want You To) I Want You To 196 0 +196 1.562
49 stations playing.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Aug 20, 2009 16:45:41 GMT -5
I'm hoping Flyleaf doesn't outperform Weezer.
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Post by Matt4319 on Aug 20, 2009 16:48:27 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 50 on Mediabase Alternative: - 45 WEEZER (If You're Wondering If I Want You To) I Want You To 196 0 +196 1.562 49 stations playing. Maybe I should have actually checked the full chart before posting what I did above, lol. |
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Post by bamaefule on Aug 20, 2009 18:36:46 GMT -5
I don't think Flyleaf is even thought about that much anymore. I can see them selling 40-50K at most
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Post by Cody on Aug 20, 2009 20:44:59 GMT -5
ok so this has really grown on me, single ranking would now look like this for Weezer for me
A+
1. Hash Pipe
A
2. We Are All On Drugs
3. Pork And Beans
4. El Scorcho
A-
5. Perfect Situation
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6. (If You're Wondering If I Want You To) I Want You To
7. Beverly Hills
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8. Say It Aint So
9. Island In The Sun
10. Undone (The Sweater Song)
B-
11. Troublemaker
12. Buddy Holly
13. The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived (Variations On A Shaker Hymn)
C
14. Keep Fishin'
15. Pink Triangle
C-
16. Dope Nose
17. This Is Such A Pity
D+
18. Photograph
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19. The Good Life
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Post by halo19 on Aug 21, 2009 8:15:01 GMT -5
You guys are assuming that people still remember Flyleaf. They haven't had a single for quite a long while and their album came out four years ago. Yeah, but you say it like all its success came in 2005. Not really. It was more successful in 2006-7, arguably even the year after. We'll see how the first single from this new one does. And the Red Album just didn't perform very well, considering how well two of its singles did on the format. |
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Post by Matt4319 on Aug 21, 2009 9:53:31 GMT -5
Alternative:
-- 40 WEEZER I Want To DGC/Interscope 2009 288 0 288
(Pretty sure the title is wrong on Mediabase.)
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 21, 2009 10:58:11 GMT -5
I just finally figured out what you did there. |
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Post by fran182 on Aug 21, 2009 11:13:19 GMT -5
I just finally figured out what you did there. Was it about "Settle Down"? |
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Post by Matt4319 on Aug 21, 2009 11:18:44 GMT -5
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Post by pen on Aug 21, 2009 13:37:07 GMT -5
I just finally figured out what you did there. Was it about "Settle Down"? Uh, no. I was referring to the fact that all these big bands got shifted to Cartel's release date and they probably thought "OH NO! We're gonna get cheesed." Which is like getting creamed except it goes on for longer. |
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 21, 2009 13:51:02 GMT -5
Was it about "Settle Down"? Uh, no. I was referring to the fact that all these big bands got shifted to Cartel's release date and they probably thought "OH NO! We're gonna get cheesed." Which is like getting creamed except it goes on for longer. I thought it was a reference to one of Cartel's biggest hits. "Runaway" |
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Post by pen on Aug 21, 2009 14:01:15 GMT -5
Uh, no. I was referring to the fact that all these big bands got shifted to Cartel's release date and they probably thought "OH NO! We're gonna get cheesed." Which is like getting creamed except it goes on for longer. I thought it was a reference to one of Cartel's biggest hits. "Runaway" How is that one of their biggest hits? It wasn't ever a single. |
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Post by pen on Aug 21, 2009 14:01:34 GMT -5
And furthermore, Cartel has a big hit?
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Post by Cody on Aug 21, 2009 14:43:12 GMT -5
haha well "Honestly" was a moderate hit I guess
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 21, 2009 15:26:57 GMT -5
Biggest meaning one of their most well known among their fan base I guess. It wasn't a single yet it's number 3 on their iTunes.
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Post by Matt4319 on Aug 21, 2009 15:32:13 GMT -5
I can't even remember more than one single by Cartel.
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 21, 2009 15:51:38 GMT -5
I guess I grew up thinking Cartel were bigger than they actually were.
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Post by American Idiot on Aug 22, 2009 0:18:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't remember ever hearing any other songs on the radio by Cartel except for "Honestly."
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Post by pen on Aug 22, 2009 0:47:46 GMT -5
Is it a problem that I remember "Say Anything (Else)" more than "Honestly"?
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