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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Feb 8, 2010 15:52:48 GMT -5
OK, enough is enough. First of all, a couple of people here continue to be so gullible as to not look at someone's posting history prior to getting all uber-defensive in their support of Carrie. They should know who they are because I've had conversations with them about this issue in the past. I'm working on other things and don't have time to get into the same conversation with those people again. Bottom line: some posters are best ignored because they aren't looking to have a real conversation.
Sweeping proclamations based on anecdotal observations are worthless. If a poster isn't willing to limit his/her own observations to his/her own experience, s/he probably isn't looking to be reasonable (in other words, Mike Hunt is a good example of someone who is obviously -not- trying to stir things up).
Don't let uber-defensiveness become an epidemic here. Don't throw out words like "agenda" at other posters, because it's not your place. Just check posting histories on your own and figure out for yourself whether it's even worth engaging a poster in conversation. If you think someone is trolling, PM me instead of taking it up on the board.
If you liked Carrie's rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner," great. If not, fine. Either way, there's no need to post your opinion more than once unless you have something truly new to add to the conversation. Some of the rehashing reads a lot more like insecurity and an inability to own your own opinion than anything else.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 8, 2010 15:53:10 GMT -5
What did she say in her blog about her performance? Did she mention anything about any technical differculties? ??? She said, at the time it sounded better to her. She was a good sport though, she doesn't really care, she's happy people know she did it live and realizes now why people would want to pre-record it.
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Post by TFMachado on Feb 8, 2010 16:11:53 GMT -5
Sunday's Super Bowl was the most-watched program in TV history.An estimated 106.5 million viewers tuned in to CBS to watch the New Orleans Saints' nail-bitting 31-17 win over the Indianapolis Colts, according to Nielsen.
That tops the previous record of 105.97 million for the 1983 finale of "M*A*S*H," which until Sunday stood as the most-watched program of any kind.[...] The audience for Sunday's game was up 8% from last year's Pittsburgh-Arizona game, which was watched by 98.7 million viewers. [...] It should be noted, there are more televisions in use in 2010 versus 1983, and millions more homes with televisions. In New Orleans, a whopping 82% of the sets on were tuned to the game, the largest percentage of the major markets released by Nielsen. Indianapolis had 80% of the sets tuned to the game. And in Washington, 73% of the sets were tuned to the game. Researchers predicted Sunday's game could have a record audience because the economy would result in more people watching at home, rather than going out to bars, where their viewing wouldn't count. Likewise, the blizzard that hit parts of the East Coast the weekend prior to the game probably kept more viewers near their TVs than in years past. Following the big game, the CBS telecast of new series "Undercover Boss" was watched by 38.6 million people.www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/02/08/2010-02-08_super_bowl_ratings_preliminary_numbers_show_highest_viewership_in_20plus_years.htmlSo Carrie was a part of the biggest audience EVER on TV... I wonder how much of that would turn into records sold next week!!!
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 8, 2010 16:43:37 GMT -5
About not hearing herself, keep in mind what we hear on our TVs at home is what directly goes into the microphone, even then you could hear the crowd. Imagine what it sounded like to Carrie, all that noise while she was singing - no noise blocking device, and no track playing in her ear. At the last phrase, I doubt she was able to hear herself over the crowd. At that point, I personally believe she was singing from Vocal memory - basically singing what felt right to her. Obviously there are other theories as to why she went flat, but that's mine. Again, this isn't quite right. First of all, we aren't getting a direct mic feed. You can tell when you're getting those, there is zero echo and generally the singer's voice is almost unusually loud compared to the other noise (e.g. crowd, background music, etc.). This is usually done with cheaper technology because they don't have a way to incorporate and balance the mic feed with background noise to make it sound more like you were a member of an audience. If these professional live shows were done this way, you would hear every little mistake an artist makes (an example, though it isn't on youtube, is the version of I'll Be Home For Christmas that Kelly gave her mom--it was a direct mic feed...if anyone has a link to it, it might help to hear what it sounds like). Of course, it won't be as forgiving as actually being in the stands with all the acoustics, but still isn't quite the same as a direct mic feed. And while there was no track playing in her ear, her voice certainly was with the earpiece. With all the noise at the end, I'm sure it was harder to hear, but she had that to keep her on pitch.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 8, 2010 17:05:49 GMT -5
About not hearing herself, keep in mind what we hear on our TVs at home is what directly goes into the microphone, even then you could hear the crowd. Imagine what it sounded like to Carrie, all that noise while she was singing - no noise blocking device, and no track playing in her ear. At the last phrase, I doubt she was able to hear herself over the crowd. At that point, I personally believe she was singing from Vocal memory - basically singing what felt right to her. Obviously there are other theories as to why she went flat, but that's mine. Again, this isn't quite right. First of all, we aren't getting a direct mic feed. You can tell when you're getting those, there is zero echo and generally the singer's voice is almost unusually loud compared to the other noise (e.g. crowd, background music, etc.). This is usually done with cheaper technology because they don't have a way to incorporate and balance the mic feed with background noise to make it sound more like you were a member of an audience. If these professional live shows were done this way, you would hear every little mistake an artist makes (an example, though it isn't on youtube, is the version of I'll Be Home For Christmas that Kelly gave her mom--it was a direct mic feed...if anyone has a link to it, it might help to hear what it sounds like). Of course, it won't be as forgiving as actually being in the stands with all the acoustics, but still isn't quite the same as a direct mic feed. And while there was no track playing in her ear, her voice certainly was with the earpiece. With all the noise at the end, I'm sure it was harder to hear, but she had that to keep her on pitch. I understand. However, my point is: what we hear is much different than what she was hearing. Imagine listening to music through headphones with all that noise. It would still be really hard to hear. Whether she was able to hear herself or not, whatever was coming through the ear piece was likely very hard to hear. After "Free" the audience goes wild, and all that noise would almost certainly cancel out whatever was coming through her earpiece. With that said, no one will really know what Carrie was hearing/feeling so everyone's take on what could have happened is never going to be confirmed or denied. I also don't know if it was posted yet but Carrie Underwood has a new character on Sesame Street called "Carrie Underworm" and Carrie recorded a song called "The Worm Anthem". It's quite funny to hear Carrie's singing voice behind a puppet. Nevertheless, it's quite entertaining the episode Carrie Underworm is featured in will be aired four times, the first of which being Thursday February, 11th.
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Post by tsharky on Feb 8, 2010 18:49:19 GMT -5
twitter.com/PaulaAbdulPaula Abdul liked Carrie's performance! :) ^I admire Carrie's attitude on her blog. She admitted it was not her best but she accepted responsibility instead of making excuses or lashing out at others. Props to her for that. On another note------ I bought the Cosmo today with Carrie on the cover and the colors look SO much better on the actual magazine then on the online version. The one I bought is pretty much a red (or some sort of pink that closely resembles red) background that nicely matches Carrie's dress, rather then the strange color scheme of pink and red on the online version. It looks much better in the print version somehow, thankfully.
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Post by Stephen on Feb 8, 2010 19:55:34 GMT -5
Just heard the Worm Anthem. MESS, haha. It was cute. Carrie is really branching out, isn't she.
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Post by Rick on Feb 8, 2010 20:05:52 GMT -5
The worm anthem is........... nice. I'm glad to see Carrie really starting to put her name all over the place. I mean the biggest tv audience ever watched her last night, that's a pretty big deal!
As for that performance, I thought it was great! The last note was a little jank, as some have, said, but overall I thought she did a great job. I hate that Carrie was hard on herself in her blog, but we are our worst critic. It makes you just want to give her hug though, doesn't it?
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Post by jptexas on Feb 8, 2010 20:18:14 GMT -5
espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls?pCat=46&sCat=1031Poll by sportsfans, but it is what it is. National Anthem score: 25,276 votes at this time: Grade A-----37% Grade B-----35% Grade C------18% D----5% F---- 5% I'll take the two 5% scores like I take the russian judge at the Olympics. lol
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Post by tsharky on Feb 8, 2010 21:18:45 GMT -5
Apparently Ricky Martin told CMT Insider that he is doing some sort of charity thing with Carrie as they met at the Grammys. On twitter tonight, I read a rumor that it is something for his Habitat for Humanity foundation. That would be amazing if true! I love that charity!
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Post by BurnItUp (with Kerosene) on Feb 8, 2010 21:19:53 GMT -5
A bit late on the NA conversation, but I'm genuinely curious as to whether it was actually confirmed that she wasn't singing to a backing track (via her in-ears, but not played over house speakers)? In my experience it seems strange that she wouldn't have a track, which is why I'm wondering and I thought maybe she mentioned it in her blog.
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Post by Stephen on Feb 8, 2010 21:22:06 GMT -5
A bit late on the NA conversation, but I'm genuinely curious as to whether it was actually confirmed that she wasn't singing to a backing track (via her in-ears, but not played over house speakers)? In my experience it seems strange that she wouldn't have a track, which is why I'm wondering and I thought maybe she mentioned it in her blog. She specifically said that now she sees why people lip it. I doubt there was a backing track. If there was, it would have sounded better, IMO.
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Post by Typo on Feb 8, 2010 21:22:55 GMT -5
Yeah, the blog would suggest that their wasn't a backing track.
Temporary Home has ascended to #8 on the Billboard country chart.
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Post by Mike on Feb 8, 2010 21:41:52 GMT -5
Her eleventh top 10! :o
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Feb 8, 2010 21:46:12 GMT -5
Stephen and Typo, neither of your posts above answered BurnItUp (with Kerosene)'s question. She was asking whether there was a track playing in Carrie's in-ear piece, not whether there was a backing track played over the house sound system (there obviously wasn't). Unless I'm missing something, Carrie did not address that in her blog.
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Post by Stephen on Feb 8, 2010 21:51:39 GMT -5
Stephen and Typo, neither of your posts above answered BurnItUp (with Kerosene)'s question. She was asking whether there was a track playing in Carrie's in-ear piece, not whether there was a backing track played over the house sound system (there obviously wasn't). Unless I'm missing something, Carrie did not address that in her blog. My bad, I thought she meant over the house speakers. I have no idea BurnItUp, possibly. I'll have someone ask her on the fan club.
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Post by tsharky on Feb 9, 2010 0:28:05 GMT -5
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Post by musicrocks on Feb 9, 2010 0:38:55 GMT -5
She got into the top 10 last week! But it's still awesome!
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Post by BurnItUp (with Kerosene) on Feb 9, 2010 1:25:49 GMT -5
My bad, I thought she meant over the house speakers. I have no idea BurnItUp, possibly. I'll have someone ask her on the fan club. I think it'd be an interesting gauge on how much clout and respect she has as an artist/singer (regardless of the outcome of the performance). Given the Superbowl NA history, I would imagine she (or her camp) would have had to fight pretty hard just to get them to let her sing live, and if they let her sing sans in-ear backing track that'd say a lot about both her pull in the industry and her reputation. Anecdotally, in 1998(?) I remember when Jewel sang at the Superbowl her lip-sync track started early and started a brouhaha among her fans because she's not someone known for lip-syncing. Eventually she made a statement to fans basically confirming she wasn't singing live, and that she wanted to sing live, but wasn't allowed. She went on to say she acquiesced to singing to a track, because it was a huge opportunity and they would find someone else to sing if she didn't. I'm not sure how much of that was spin by Jewel's camp, or how much the rules have been relaxed since then (I don't follow football), but that's why I find the details of how Carrie was allowed to perform to be so interesting (more so than the actual performance) and quite telling of how respected she is becoming as a reliable performer.
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Post by vinman on Feb 9, 2010 2:15:15 GMT -5
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Post by arw3a on Feb 9, 2010 13:09:42 GMT -5
Who was the last person before Carrie to sing it live?
And is it for sure Whitney and Mariah lip synch'd it?
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 9, 2010 14:48:30 GMT -5
Who was the last person before Carrie to sing it live? And is it for sure Whitney and Mariah lip synch'd it? Whitney and Mariah lip synced, and I don't know who the last person was, if anyone to sing it live.
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Post by kt1990 on Feb 9, 2010 15:23:21 GMT -5
lol, I just watched the Sesame Street clip. So funny and cute!
''So I stand up nice and tall, and shout 'I'm a worm, you all'!!!'' LMAO
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2010 15:53:13 GMT -5
Looks like Carrie had a VERY nice sales increase this week. Hits final estimate:
29 16 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 32,047 +76% PLAY ON
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Post by lyrichord on Feb 9, 2010 17:01:04 GMT -5
Solid sales. With Valentine's day shopping, hopefully she can collect another 30+ K next week.
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Post by tsharky on Feb 9, 2010 18:10:24 GMT -5
Do you think the Superbowl will help with sales next week? 106 million people watched. lol Then again, it's not like she sang anything off her albums, etc. Still, the exposure and good critical reviews should help her see a small bump anyway.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 9, 2010 20:39:57 GMT -5
Do you think the Superbowl will help with sales next week? 106 million people watched. lol Then again, it's not like she sand anything off her albums, etc. Still, the exposure and good critical reviews should help her see a small bump anyway. It can't hurt. She didn't sing any of her songs on the Grammys and saw a 76% increase. I'd say another increase next week because the superbowl is likely. However the increase percentage might be lighter because she'll have lost some Grammy momentum. Overall I think sales of 30-45k is a decent estimate.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Feb 9, 2010 21:29:19 GMT -5
I'm giving credit to the release of the "Temporary Home" video also for the increase in album sales, along with the $7.99 sale on iTunes. I saw a lot of great feedback for the TH video and it helped TH rise more than 40 spots on the all-genre songs chart on iTunes.
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Post by realityBITES on Feb 9, 2010 21:48:58 GMT -5
Yeah, the TH video definitely helped. On itunes, the album has fallen because the deal is gone. Though, digital sales are - maybe, 2-3K? So it's not a huge percentage. Hopefully, after Valentines week, it can stay around the 17-20K mark.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 10, 2010 13:20:27 GMT -5
I just watched a 'home video' of Carrie's Anthem at the superbowl, and to be honest - it's much better than the version we heard on TV. The note at the end sounds fine as well. Maybe there was something wrong with the broadcast??? www.youtube.com/watch?v=556V4oOGF9I
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