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Post by Myth X on Mar 22, 2010 16:22:20 GMT -5
What irrelevant argument...
Anyways, my prediction for this week's top 10:
01. Rude Boy
02. Nothin' On You
03. Need You Now
04. Break Your Heart
05. Telephone
06. Hey Soul Sister
07. Imma Be
08. Tik Tok
09. Bedrock
10. Carry Out
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Post by lugus15 on Mar 22, 2010 16:31:56 GMT -5
Pink 4th fiddle to Mya and/or Lil Kim????
You are delusional
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Post by kirby2725 on Mar 22, 2010 21:09:59 GMT -5
I think you should only count it as another #1 hit if it was a different song...
For example... Beyonce had 5 #1s in the US and 5 #1s in the UK... But the only one that was #1 in BOTH was "Crazy in Love"
So... as far as I'm concerned she has 9 #1 singles... make sense?
This is just my personal opinion.
And another thing, just to clarify... the World Chart is not an official chart...
Oh, and Destiny's Child had 3 Hot 100 #1s since 2000, not just 2. (Say My Name, Independent Women, Bootylicious)
And Rihanna has 6 Hot 100 #1s, not just 5. (SOS, Umbrella, Take a Bow, Disturbia, Live Your Life, Rude Boy)
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Post by Legoman on Mar 22, 2010 21:54:24 GMT -5
If you look at the lyrics and the song, who sings the most lyrics? Is it Pink? Pink may not sing the most lyrics, however she's not the least billed artist. It's Mya. |
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Post by kirby2725 on Mar 23, 2010 11:21:30 GMT -5
^ Again... to add US and WW doesn't make very much sense because the US chart plays such a big part in the WW chart...
Comparing the US with the other top music markets makes far much more sense.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Mar 23, 2010 14:41:54 GMT -5
The United World Chart is sort of dubious anyway. It was cleared out of Wikipedia many months ago. Unless that's not the WW chart you're referring to.
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Post by as485y on Mar 23, 2010 19:11:11 GMT -5
Why are you even comparing Beyonce to Rihanna? not even in the the same realm....
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Post by nighttime on Mar 23, 2010 19:26:41 GMT -5
Why are you even comparing Beyonce to Rihanna? not even in the the same realm.... i agree. while they both have the same number of top 20's and top 10's in what we're discussing - Rihanna has SIX #1's and did it in almost half the time. :o |
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Post by as485y on Mar 23, 2010 19:45:41 GMT -5
^yeah and no #1 albums? whats the point? lol
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Post by nighttime on Mar 23, 2010 19:47:13 GMT -5
hmm. are we not in the Hot 100 thread and are we not discussing most #1 singles?
what is YOUR point?
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Post by jamrock16 on Mar 23, 2010 20:24:27 GMT -5
Why are you even comparing Beyonce to Rihanna? not even in the the same realm.... i agree. while they both have the same number of top 20's and top 10's in what we're discussing - Rihanna has SIX #1's and did it in almost half the time. :o 5 years (Rihanna) vs. 7 years (Beyonce) is nowhere near close to half the time. Rihanna has also released 4 albums, Beyonce 3. |
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Post by Junkiex on Mar 24, 2010 9:01:24 GMT -5
Rih started from zero, while "Bey" had been around, with her backup singers, since the 90's.
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Post by Oprah on Mar 24, 2010 9:19:22 GMT -5
Why are you even comparing Beyonce to Rihanna? not even in the the same realm.... i agree. while they both have the same number of top 20's and top 10's in what we're discussing - Rihanna has SIX #1's and did it in almost half the time. :o She did it in five years, Beyonce went solo seven years ago. Your math doesn't quite add up. Plus, Rihanna's released four albums to Beyonce's three, so it stands to reason she'd have more hits. |
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Post by WouldYouJumpTheGDTrainAlready? on Mar 24, 2010 9:40:39 GMT -5
^Rihanna didn't have any number ones until 2006
his post says ALMOST half, 3.5 being half of 7, four years could be considered "almost half" the time.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 24, 2010 9:49:34 GMT -5
A chart was "cleared out" of Wikipedia? With the erroneous info that gets posted there, I'd find it hard to believe it would have such strict rulings on any type of chart.
Anyhoo, both Rihanna and solo Beyonce have done very well- why can't people leave it at that?
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Post by wavey. on Mar 24, 2010 9:55:00 GMT -5
^Agreed.
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Post by wallace on Mar 24, 2010 10:48:53 GMT -5
A chart was "cleared out" of Wikipedia? With the erroneous info that gets posted there, I'd find it hard to believe it would have such strict rulings on any type of chart. Anyhoo, both Rihanna and solo Beyonce have done very well- why can't people leave it at that? I'm not sure how consistent the rules are across different artists' pages - Wiki moderation is rather disorganized and decentralized - but generally, Wikipedia discography pages only use Billboard charts for chart histories. That's why you have to go elsewhere for CHR/Pop chart histories, and good luck getting chart histories for airplay on other formats. |
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Post by Acid Eyes on Mar 24, 2010 10:59:36 GMT -5
A chart was "cleared out" of Wikipedia? With the erroneous info that gets posted there, I'd find it hard to believe it would have such strict rulings on any type of chart. Anyhoo, both Rihanna and solo Beyonce have done very well- why can't people leave it at that? I'm an administrator for Wikipedia, so I can chime in. Basically, Wikipedia has inclusion guidelines. Disputed claims of inclusion are thrown up to the Wiki community to vote on. The United World Chart has fairly controversial as the community was pressed to find other sources that verified UWC as a legit source of database. Most of the sources they found were self-referential or boards like this (rather than publications like Billboard) so it was deleted. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 24, 2010 11:12:03 GMT -5
Rih started from zero, while "Bey" had been around, with her backup singers, since the 90's. If you include those hits then Rihanna doesn't even begin to compare. |
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Post by ΣGØ.©[/IMG] on Mar 24, 2010 11:16:08 GMT -5
Why are you even comparing Beyonce to Rihanna? not even in the the same realm.... i agree. while they both have the same number of top 20's and top 10's in what we're discussing - Rihanna has SIX #1's and did it in almost half the time. :o While Rihanna is 1 album ahead? And 5 is not half of 7. Re-do your math, then run it back on replay. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 24, 2010 11:24:12 GMT -5
i agree. while they both have the same number of top 20's and top 10's in what we're discussing - Rihanna has SIX #1's and did it in almost half the time. :o While Rihanna is 1 album ahead? And 5 is not half of 7. Re-do your math, then run it back on replay. don't care for it EGO. it is so pressed , i can't at beyoncé being a single artiest now  beyoncé outsold its favs and snatchet them wigs :'( |
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Post by Rodze on Mar 24, 2010 11:36:29 GMT -5
content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2010/03/adam-lambert-leads-idol-track-sales-for-second-week/1Track sales: Ke$ha feat. 3OH!3, Blah Blah Blah - 100,000 / 1,290,000 Adam Lambert, Whataya Want From Me - 51,000 / 702,000 Orianthi, According to You - 49,000 / 848,000 Kris Allen, Live Like We're Dying - 49,000 / 1,154,000 Daughtry, Life After You - 26,000 / 546,000 Carrie Underwood, Temporary Home - 21,000 / 313,000 Artists for Haiti, We Are the World 25: For Haiti - 16,000 / 619,000 Carrie Underwood, Cowboy Casanova - 14,000 / 1,244,000 Kelly Clarkson, Already Gone - 11,000 / 1,296,000 General Larry Platt, Pants on the Ground - 8,000 / 181,000 Kellie Pickler, Didn't You Know How Much I Loved You - 5,000 / 239,000 Danny Gokey, My Best Days Are Ahead of Me - 5,000 / 75,000 Carrie Underwood, Before He Cheats - 5,000 / 2,963,000 Kellie Pickler, Best Days of Our Life - 4,000 / 992,000 Carrie Underwood, All-American Girl - 4,000 / 1,172,000
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Post by BlueSwan on Mar 24, 2010 11:37:26 GMT -5
Oh bks, where art thou? :'(
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2010 11:40:46 GMT -5
I would not count on bks posts.
If he were going to regularly post Soundscan data again he would have done so by now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2010 11:43:38 GMT -5
His last login at all was 3 weeks ago
It has been since early February that he last posted Soundscan data, at some point we should just let go.
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Post by Junkiex on Mar 24, 2010 11:48:32 GMT -5
Rih started from zero, while "Bey" had been around, with her backup singers, since the 90's. If you include those hits then Rihanna doesn't even begin to compare. I'm not including those hits, but "Bey" was pretty established when she started her solo career. I just don't understand... haven't people watched DREAMGIRLS??? It's so transparent! |
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Post by nighttime on Mar 24, 2010 12:09:07 GMT -5
^Rihanna didn't have any number ones until 2006 his post says ALMOST half, 3.5 being half of 7, four years could be considered "almost half" the time. exactly, and go read that post i addressed.  You can't say in a HOT 100 thread comparing peak numbers, that they are "not even in the the same realm....", THAT'S a pressed post, cause guess what - Rihanna has more lol RE: "Plus, Rihanna's released four albums to Beyonce's three, so it stands to reason she'd have more hits." That's quite faulty logic & Beyonce's still released far more singles. So i guess it stands to reason she should have more hits, eh? |
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Post by NeRD on Mar 24, 2010 13:13:55 GMT -5
Very impressice sales for Carrie's singles.
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Post by Oprah on Mar 24, 2010 13:33:14 GMT -5
^Rihanna didn't have any number ones until 2006 his post says ALMOST half, 3.5 being half of 7, four years could be considered "almost half" the time. exactly, and go read that post i addressed. You can't say in a HOT 100 thread comparing peak numbers, that they are "not even in the the same realm....", THAT'S a pressed post, cause guess what - Rihanna has more lol RE: I ain't buyin' that excuse. Who cares if she got in her first #1 in 2006? She debuted in 2005, her career didn't begin when S.O.S. hit the top spot. How exactly is that faulty logic? It doesn't matter how long you've been around, it matters how much you've released. If you aren't dropping albums and releasing singles, you can't score #1's. Bey may have put out more singles on paper but not all of them were serviced at pop radio, while all of Rihanna's were. That said, I'm not putting down Riallah's success at all, she's built up an impressive career and has released some top notch albums. There's no need to distort the facts to praise her & put down Bey, though. |
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Post by cking33 on Mar 24, 2010 13:48:33 GMT -5
So, how much more does B.o.B have to sell than Rihanna to take the top spot? I'd say about 15-20k.
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You can't say in a HOT 100 thread comparing peak numbers, that they are "not even in the the same realm....", THAT'S a pressed post, cause guess what - Rihanna has more lol