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Post by hitseeker. on Mar 24, 2010 18:22:31 GMT -5
I don't think Telephone is #3, #5/6 at most, Nothin' on You, Need You Now, Rude Boy (which seems to be the #1) and Break Your Heart are great competition
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2010 21:16:36 GMT -5
LOL @ Ke$hit dropping in BBB sales after performing on Idol I'm not surprised. She was horrible. |
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Post by Bob on Mar 24, 2010 21:37:35 GMT -5
Beyonce is the stronger album seller, that's all that matters. that used to be true maybe, but not anymore. it's about the singles, the concerts and the merchandising and endorsements, etc... so i mean beyoncé still has it, partially because she also has an acting career, but i'm pretty sure her tours have taken in more money as well. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 24, 2010 21:45:49 GMT -5
Singles don't mean more than albums. I agree with the rest of what you said, but just because singles are flashier and sell more digital downloads doesn't mean they outweigh album sales. I remember an article where the Black Eyed Peas weren't even happy about how much BBP sold because they and the label were only making a fraction of what they would make if album sales were higher. I know that seems picky, but I think, in general, this board puts WAY too much emphasis on single performance and #1 on Billboard over album sales, merchandising, and touring-all which actually make tons of money.
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Post by Black Jesus on Mar 24, 2010 22:08:41 GMT -5
LOL @ Ke$hit dropping in BBB sales after performing on Idol I'm not surprised. She was horrible. Was anyone actually expecting it to be good though? |
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Post by musik... on Mar 24, 2010 22:51:54 GMT -5
I agree with Bob and Love Plastic Love, in a way. Certainly, at the moment (as has been the case for decades), the revenue numbers, in absolute terms, from album sales trump the revenue accumulated through digital single sales for record labels, producers, singers and songwriters. But we are transitioning into an era where album sales continue to dwindle and album prices are falling (as UMG is now trying with its pricing limit of certain albums at $10), while digital single sales continue to skyrocket as more and more songs enter the 5,000,000 legal downloads club, while pricing of individual songs have increased in the US from $0.99 to $1.29. Futhermore, the growing trend of releasing albums with less tracks but at a greater frequency is making it more and more difficult for album sales to reach the historic levels that had existed before the internet age. I guess what I'm trying to say is that single sales and album sales are beginning to meet up at a middle ground in terms of gross revenue for music labels so the importance of album sales is not as strongly emphasized while single sales are experiencing heightened emphasis b/c of the trend of the industry. However, the real money for artists will always come from merchandising, endorsements, and touring, which don't respond so drastically to market changes as album/single sales have.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 24, 2010 22:59:09 GMT -5
I do agree with your revisions of my original statement. I do know that the market is changing and albums aren't priced as highly or selling as much. I just think a label and artist would rather have an album sell 4 million plus than 2-3 singles sell 3 million and shit for the album. People here just seem to think a #1 on the billboard 100 is the be all end all of success when that isn't really the truth. It is a lot more complicated than that.
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Post by PDC1987 on Mar 24, 2010 23:01:25 GMT -5
Beyonce is the stronger album seller, that's all that matters. that used to be true maybe, but not anymore. it's about the singles, the concerts and the merchandising and endorsements, etc... so i mean beyoncé still has it, partially because she also has an acting career, but i'm pretty sure her tours have taken in more money as well. LOL. Album sales will always be more important than single sales. Which do you think a record label rather make? The money from an album selling 1 million copies or a single selling 3 million $1.29 downloads? |
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Post by musik... on Mar 24, 2010 23:04:17 GMT -5
^^ yeah i definitely agree. having a number one song is great, but an album with longevity is definitely more rewarding for the artist and the label and it should be. it'll be a sad day if the album is replace by EPs of just six or seven radio-friendly songs than a full-length concept album.
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Mar 24, 2010 23:11:04 GMT -5
When does Billboard usually update- it's obviously not midnight haha.
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Post by R.K. on Mar 24, 2010 23:12:01 GMT -5
LOL @ people saying Beyonce's acting career is helping her album sale
LMAO @ people comparing Rihanna to Beyonce, they are NOT on the same level, Rihanna? Really?
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Post by babybabybaby on Mar 24, 2010 23:21:10 GMT -5
There's no way Telephone is #3 on the Hot 100. It's airplay is almost the same as Nothin On You and Nothin On You sold more. Break Your Heart will most likely be #3.
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Post by Live Your Life on Mar 24, 2010 23:31:26 GMT -5
Record sales only matter from a business standpoint, otherwise, they are just a way for obsessed fans to argue over their favorite artists. The general public won't be like, "Remember when Beyonce sold 4.2 millions copies of Dangerously in Love?" They're going to remember her #1 singles like "Crazy in Love," "Baby Boy," "Irreplaceable," and "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)." Same goes for Rihanna. So as long as their record companies are still investing money into them, I don't really think record sales are important (to us anyway).
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Mar 24, 2010 23:37:21 GMT -5
Album sales have always been more important than single sales/success. A single is supposed to push an album anyway. A #1 hit means little if it doesn't translate into sales. It really doesn't matter what the general public thinks. I bet an artist would rather a hit album than a hit song.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 24, 2010 23:40:01 GMT -5
Record sales only matter from a business standpoint, otherwise, they are just a way for obsessed fans to argue over their favorite artists. The general public won't be like, "Remember when Beyonce sold 4.2 millions copies of Dangerously in Love?" They're going to remember her #1 singles like "Crazy in Love," "Baby Boy," "Irreplaceable," and "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)." Same goes for Rihanna. So as long as their record companies are still investing money into them, I don't really think record sales are important (to us anyway). What is important to the label is important to us whether people realize it or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2010 1:48:49 GMT -5
Album sales have always been more important than single sales/success. A single is supposed to push an album anyway. A #1 hit means little if it doesn't translate into sales. It really doesn't matter what the general public thinks. I bet an artist would rather a hit album than a hit song. Bingo! The song is suppose to sell the album. It's great record companies can make some money off a digital song, but they want the song to sell the record. Anyways, Rude Boy is most likely #1 again? Eh? Awesome, such a great jam! Hope Tele is top 5 too! |
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Post by beyoncethebest on Mar 25, 2010 5:25:10 GMT -5
Lady Gaga’s newest hit single “Telephone” featuring Beyoncé climbes 9-3 on this week’s Billboard Hot 100 becoming her fourth Top 3 entry. The only two singles that peaked outside the top three were “LoveGame” (#5) and “Paparazzi” (#6).
“Telephone” has sold more than 1,200,000 copies in the United States to date and also became Lady Gaga’s sixth consecutive number one on pop radio.
gagadaily.com
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Post by beyoncethebest on Mar 25, 2010 7:22:44 GMT -5
Well it's now on Billboard too...So it's official, another top 3 hit for Lady Gaga and Beyoncé!!
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Post by Tea-why on Mar 25, 2010 7:23:23 GMT -5
BILLBOARD HOT 100
(chart date 3rd April 2010)
LW TW TITLE ARTIST
[01] 01| Rude Boy - Rihanna
[05] 02| Nothin' On You - B.o.B.
[09] 03| Telephone - Lady Gaga
[02] 04| Need You Now - Lady Antebellum
[03] 05| Break Your Heart - Taio Cruz feat. Ludacris
[04] 06| Imma Be - Black Eyed Peas
[06] 07| Hey, Soul Sister - Train
[07] 08| BedRock - Young Money
[08] 09| TiK ToK - Ke$ha
[12] 10| Baby - Justin Bieber
[11] 11| Carry Out - Timbaland
[10] 12| In My Head - Jason Derulo
[13] 13| Say Aah - Trey Songz
[15] 14| Bad Romance - Lady Gaga
[16] 15| Blah Blah Blah - Ke$ha
[14] 16| How Low - Ludacris
[35] 17| Over - Drake
[17] 18| Breakeven - Script
[18] 19| According To You - Orianthi
[21] 20| All The Right Moves - OneRepublic
[22] 21| Whataya Want From Me - Adam Lambert
[19] 22| Live Like We're Dying - Kris Allen
[20] 23| Sexy Chick - David Guetta
[27] 24| My Chick Bad - Ludacris feat. Nicki Minaj
[23] 25| Say Something - Timbaland
[24] 26| Tie Me Down - New Boyz
[**] 27| U Smile - Justin Bieber
[28] 28| Haven't Met You Yet - Michael Buble
[26] 29| I Gotta Feeling - Black Eyed Peas
[25] 30| Replay - Iyaz
[31] 31| Hey Daddy (Daddy's Home) - Usher
[33] 32| American Honey - Lady Antebellum
[41] 33| Young Forever - Jay-Z + Mr. Hudson
[37] 34| I Made It - Kevin Rudolf feat Birdman, Jay Sean & Lil Wayne
[30] 35| Today Was A Fairytale - Taylor Swift
[29] 36| Empire State Of Mind - Jay-Z + Alicia Keys
[34] 37| Heartbreak Warfare - John Mayer
[36] 38| Life After You - Daughtry
[32] 39| Down - Jay Sean
[45] 40| Highway 20 Ride - Zac Brown Band
[44] 41| Temporary Home - Carrie Underwood
[43] 42| A Little More Country Than That - Easton Corbin
[40] 43| Hillbilly Bone - Blake Shelton
[**] 44| I'm Back - T.I.
[39] 45| You Belong With Me - Taylor Swift
[50] 46| Naturally - Selena Gomez
[56] 47| Everything To Me - Monica
[38] 48| Fireflies - Owl City
[46] 49| Whatcha Say - Jason Derulo
[49] 50| Why Don't We Just Dance - Josh Turner
[63] 51| Neighbors Know My Name - Trey Songz
[47] 52| On To The Next One - Jay-Z + Swizz Beatz
[53] 53| All The Way Turnt Up - Roscoe Dash
[**] 54| I'm Awesome - Spose
[65] 55| Solo - Iyaz
[42] 56| Do You Remember - Jay Sean
[58] 57| Lemonade - Gucci Mane
[57] 58| When I Look At You - Miley Cyrus
[62] 59| Steady Mobbin' - Young Money
[51] 60| Halfway Gone - Lifehouse
[55] 61| Sex Therapy - Robin Thicke
[76] 62| O Let's Do It - Waka Flocka Flame
[59] 63| 'Til Summer Comes Around - Keith Urban
[75] 64| Gimmie That Girl - Joe Nichols
[52] 65| Try Sleeping With A Broken Heart - Alicia Keys
[64] 66| Lil Freak - Usher Feat. Nicki Minaj
[61] 67| That's How Country Boys Roll - Billy Currington
[73] 68| Drop The World - Lil Wayne
[54] 69| Hard - Rihanna
[60] 70| I Am - Mary J. Blige
[80] 71| Bulletproof - La Roux
[74] 72| Ain't Back Yet - Kenny Chesney
[72] 73| Someday - Rob Thomas
[67] 74| It Kills Me - Melanie Fiona
[70] 75| Unstoppable - Rascal Flatts
[**] 76| More - Usher
[77] 77| Fearless - Taylor Swift
[78] 78| Just Breathe - Pearl Jam
[92] 79| Beamer, Benz, Or Bentley - Lloyd Banks
[66] 80| Ridin Solo - Jason Derulo
[69] 81| The Truth - Jason Aldean
[84] 82| The Man I Want To Be - Chris Young
[81] 83| Women Lie, Men Lie - Yo Gotti feat. Lil Wayne
[**] 84| Make A Wave - Disney's Friends For Change
[85] 85| Hell On The Heart - Eric Church
[88] 86| Keep On Lovin You - Steel Magnolia
[86] 87| Backwoods - Justin Moore
[79] 88| Soldier Of Love - Sade
[97] 89| All I Do Is Win - DJ Khaled
[89] 90| One Day - Matisyahu
[RE] 91| Your Love Is My Drug - Ke$ha
[**] 92| Love King - The-Dream
[87] 93| Shots - LMFAO
[82] 94| American Saturday Night - Brad Paisley
[71] 95| Alice - Avril Lavigne
[**] 96| Fistful Of Tears - Maxwell
[91] 97| Cryin Like A B**** - Godsmack
[RE] 98| Ain't Leavin Without You - Jaheim
[99] 99| 1901 - Phoenix
[**] 100| I Gotta Get To You - George Strait
OUT| Two Is Better Than One - Boys Like Girls
OUT| If You Only Knew - Shinedown
OUT| History In The Making - Darius Rucker
OUT| Driving Me Crazy - Sam Adams
OUT| Feel It - Three Six Mafia vs Tiesto with Sean Kingston & Flo Rida
OUT| Never Let You Go - Justin Bieber
OUT| Ooh Baby - Mario
OUT| We Are The World 25: For Haiti - Artists For Haiti
OUT| Vanilla Twilight - Owl City
OUT| I Wanna Rock - Snoop Dogg
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Post by abc on Mar 25, 2010 7:24:47 GMT -5
1. Rude Boy (=)
2. Nothin' On You (+3)
3. Telephone (+6)
4. Need You Now (-2)
5. Break Your Heart (-2)
6. Imma Be (-2)
7. Hey, Soul Sister (-1)
8. BedRock (-1)
9. Tik Tok (-1)
10. Baby (+2)
11. Carry Out (=)
12. In My Head (-2)
13. Say Aah (=)
14. Bad Romance (+1)
15. Blah Blah Blah (+1)
16. How Low (-2)
17. Over (+1
18. Breakeven (-1)
19. According to You (-1)
20. All the Right Moves (+1)
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Post by stooki3 on Mar 25, 2010 7:32:59 GMT -5
[RE] 91| Your Love Is My Drug - Ke$ha
Future Smash
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Post by WouldYouJumpTheGDTrainAlready? on Mar 25, 2010 7:34:54 GMT -5
^9 down, 90 to go
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Post by stooki3 on Mar 25, 2010 7:53:45 GMT -5
Yess! This is so much better than Blah Blah Blah imo
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Post by drummerman2009 on Mar 25, 2010 8:21:24 GMT -5
How about the Bubbling Under Hot 100?
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Post by kev2k3 on Mar 25, 2010 8:30:33 GMT -5
Congrats To Beyonce & Gaga On Their Top 3 Single!!!
This Continues The Streak For Beyonce Having A Top 5 Single in every year of her career!!
1998: No, No, No Part 2 (#3)
1999: Bills, Bills, Bills (#1)
2000: Say My Name (#1), Independent women (#1), Jumpin' Jumpin' (#3)
2001: Bootylicious (#1), Survivor (#2)
2002: 03 Bonnie & Clyde (#4)
2003: Crazy In Love (#1), Baby Boy (#1)
2004: Me, Myself, & I (#4), Naughty Girl (#3), Lose My Breath (#3), Soldier (#3)
2005: Check On It (#1)
2006: Deja Vu (#4), Irreplaceable (#1)
2007: Beautiful Liar (#3)
2008: If I Were A Boy (#3), Single Ladies (#1)
2009: Halo (#5)
2010: Telephone (#3)
13 Top 5 singles As A Solo Artist
22 Top 5 singles For Her Overall Career since 1998
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Post by johnm1120 on Mar 25, 2010 8:58:04 GMT -5
Bubbling Under:
01 ** 01 Young Money - Roger That (1)
02 02 13 Aventura - Dile Al Amor (2)
03 14 03 Martina McBride - Wrong Baby Wrong (3)
04 17 02 Colbie Caillat - I Never Told You (4)
05 07 05 Omarion - Speedin' (5)
06 11 03 Luke Bryan - Rain is a Good Thing (6)
07 04 26 Rise Against - Savior (2)
08 08 03 Alan Jackson - It's Just That Way (8)
09 18 03 Clay Walker - She Won't Be Lonely Long (9)
10 06 02 Cypress Hill f/Marc Anthony & Pitbull - Armada Latina (6)
11 09 06 Alice in Chains - Your Decision (9)
12 25 02 Jaron & the Long Road to Love - Pray For You (12)
13 ** 01 Miranda Lambert - The House That Built Me (13)
14 RE 02 Marvin Sapp - The Best in Me (6)
15 20 02 Tim McGraw - Still (15)
16 ** 01 Alicia Keys - Un-Thinkable (I'm Ready) (16)
17 15 10 Slipknot - Snuff (10)
18 ** 01 Erykah Badu - Window Seat (18)
19 ** 01 Muse - Resistance (19)
20 19 06 Banda Los Recoditos - Ando Bien Pedo (13)
21 ** 01 The Band Perry - Hip to My Heart (21)
22 ** 01 The Heavy - How You Like Me Now (22)
23 ** 01 Breaking Benjamin - Give Me a Sign (Forever & Ever) (23)
24 23 05 Kutless - What Faith Can Do (19)
25 ** 01 Jason Aldean - Crazy Town (25)
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Post by wallace on Mar 25, 2010 9:41:52 GMT -5
Album sales have always been more important than single sales/success. A single is supposed to push an album anyway. A #1 hit means little if it doesn't translate into sales. It really doesn't matter what the general public thinks. I bet an artist would rather a hit album than a hit song. Album sales matter more, but can a single break even on single sales alone? We still don't know enough about the industry's cost structure for anybody to answer that question with confidence (I've been asking on these boards for months and nobody has even a ballpark estimate what the budget for a new single off an existing album is). And it's becoming a more important question as the ratio of single sales to album sales rises, albeit more for some genres and artists than others. |
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Post by kirby2725 on Mar 25, 2010 10:26:31 GMT -5
Yay @ Beyonce's 13th top 5 single!
It's funny... her only top 10 single to miss top 5 was "Sweet Dreams".
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Post by kingofpain on Mar 25, 2010 11:48:40 GMT -5
Aw boo, "Sweet Disposition" by the Temper Trap fell out of the Bumbling Under chart.. I guess that song isn't going to break out here after all. :(
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Post by d.t.m on Mar 25, 2010 12:26:01 GMT -5
Yay @ Beyonce's 13th top 5 single! It's funny... her only top 10 single to miss top 5 was "Sweet Dreams". 2nd, if we're counting 'Emotions.'  Can Telephone go to #1? |
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