kingofpain
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Post by kingofpain on May 19, 2010 11:46:15 GMT -5
Yeah I don't understand why in this country, EVERY "pop" song nowadays needs to tack on a rapper - most of the time it adds absolutely nothing to the song, yet it almost guarantees that it'll get more airplay on pop stations for some reason, even though the song was POP to begin with. It's not like Katy was hoping to get this song played on urban stations. Jay Sean did it with "Down" (Lil Wayne adds NOTHING to the song), I even remember when Amy Winehouse released "Rehab" here, they added some rapper to it LOL, talk about a joke. Who remembers "Do You Remember" by Jay Sean? The song alone wasn't bad (almost a "Forever" Chris Brown knock off), but they had to add in Lil Jon's vocals and as usual, it's always F'n hilarious - he was basically just barking out "LET'S BRING IT BACK!" and "DO YOU REMEM-BAH!" randomly, I swear to god I wish Dave Chapelle was still around...)
I could tell she wasn't going to get number one. Eminem's pop bars almost doubled OMG's, but Katy has maybe had about a third of a lead on him. I'm not the biggest fan of California Gurls, but I'm a big fan of variety. It may as well just be another six months of BEP domination for all I care - because all of the number ones this year have been in the same format.
Why is it that 300K+ knuckleheads can run out and buy Eminem's single but 300K+ can't run out and buy Katy's? Why is it always the rap/urban s**t that wins out in the end, and I'm not even talkin airplay here. Yes, I understand that this is the "sound" that today's youth wants to hear, it almost amazes me how stuff like "Fireflies" by Owl City and "Hey There Delilah" even got to #1 in this sad musical climate.
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Post by colson on May 19, 2010 11:55:34 GMT -5
^LOL
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Tanisha Thomas.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on May 19, 2010 11:58:00 GMT -5
U mad, huh?
LOL
I get kingofpain, but I don't think half of these #1s will be remembered like that anyway. The Hot 100 is so iffy these days.
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Post by badrobot on May 19, 2010 11:58:17 GMT -5
Well that solves that... I doubted a non-Urban/pop song would have made it to number one. It was way too much to ask. Other than Kesha, we're already halfway into 2010 and 6 out of the 7 "#1"'s are all rap/urban/urban-pop. Jesus Christ could we get some variety in this country??? "Tik Tok" - Kesha "Imma Be" - Black Eyed Peas "Break Your Heart" - Taio Cruz featuring Ludacris "Rude Boy" - Rihanna "Nothin' on You" - B.o.B featuring Bruno Mars "OMG" - Usher featuring will.i.am "Not Afraid" - Eminem Most of those songs are quite pop-oriented. The only lead artist on that list who is a straight-up rapper is Eminem, really. I know you reference "urban" broadly there but that covers quite a few genres. I don't know that we're really seeing the level of homogeneity that you're saying. Most popular songs today have some elements of a variety of genres, whether it's hip-hop, dance, pop, rap, R&B, etc. I don't think Katy Perry really sounds all that different from many of the above tracks. I'm also glad to see that digital sales have apparently picked up the pace a bit -- 4 songs over 200k is great to see! I'm also betting against Miley hitting #1 next week. |
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Post by colson on May 19, 2010 12:00:32 GMT -5
^Yeah, if PITUSA couldn't do it. I don't see CBT getting there.
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 19, 2010 12:22:05 GMT -5
^Especially with such lower airplay (it probably won't reach PITUSA's airplay levels).
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Post by kingofpain on May 19, 2010 13:04:56 GMT -5
Well especially Katy Perry's song.. if you told me Ke$ha was singing it, I'd believe it. It's a fairly generic pop song where like Ke$ha, the vocals are all sound electronically altered... That is why I was hoping that Lady Antebellum could have topped the chart for 1 week, it would have been an amazing feat. I highly doubt Miley will top the chart either, if she couldn't do it with PITU, she's not going to do it with this.
And again, I reiterate that I have nothing against Usher or the 300K people who ran out and bought Eminem's single (which obviously doesn't look like it's going to explode at radio either) - but why can't we see some other act or at least true pop artist achieve these same feats?
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on May 19, 2010 13:06:33 GMT -5
why can't we see some other act or at least true pop artist achieve these same feats? We will. |
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Post by bat1990 on May 19, 2010 13:20:11 GMT -5
Why is it that 300K+ knuckleheads can run out and buy Eminem's single but 300K+ can't run out and buy Katy's? Why is it always the rap/urban s**t that wins out in the end, and I'm not even talkin airplay here. Yes, I understand that this is the "sound" that today's youth wants to hear, it almost amazes me how stuff like "Fireflies" by Owl City and "Hey There Delilah" even got to #1 in this sad musical climate. Most people who are fans of music that isn't topping the charts are people who don't even listen to the radio and who download/share music for free, generally speaking, IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2010 13:24:25 GMT -5
The free stuff has no impact on the charts
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Post by David on May 19, 2010 13:32:23 GMT -5
So a 54,000 gap in sales between California Gurls & OMG isn't enough for #1? I know the gap on Mediabase was around 74,000, but Billboard doesn't use those numbers.
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 19, 2010 13:37:24 GMT -5
^The BDS discrepancy would not drop by that much for it to make a difference in this case.
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Post by David on May 19, 2010 13:40:23 GMT -5
^Ok.. I wasn't sure of how much of a difference BDS made.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on May 19, 2010 13:43:20 GMT -5
Well, does Katy have a shot next week?
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Post by David on May 19, 2010 13:44:30 GMT -5
Possibly if her sales hold up and she gains another like 30 mill AI in one week.  |
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on May 19, 2010 13:45:30 GMT -5
I guess that a no then.  |
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Post by sghosal22 on May 19, 2010 14:01:31 GMT -5
9. DRAKE - Over: 70.075 (+ 0.616) £
Sucks that iTunes sales is keeping this out of the top 10! :'(
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Post by lugus15 on May 19, 2010 14:10:04 GMT -5
Dunno The following will be before her: OMG California Gurls Not Afraid Nothin On You Break Your Heart Airplanes Your Love Is My Drug So I think she will have to sell more than 50,000 of: Hey Soul Sister or Need You Now Or more than 65,000 than Rude Boy I think that she barely makes the top ten, with Need You Now being displaced. Next week for sure |
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Post by David on May 19, 2010 15:11:09 GMT -5
I guess that a no then. Yeah, probably not next week, but I think she'll get there in about 2 weeks. |
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Post by stooki3 on May 19, 2010 16:17:23 GMT -5
Telephone" by Lady Gaga featuring Beyonce tops the 2 million mark in paid downloads this week. It's the first all-female collaboration to reach this sales plateau in the digital era. Back in the old days of physical singles, two all-female collabos were certified by the RIAA for sales of 2 million copies: "No More Tears (Enough Is Enough)" by Barbra Streisand and Donna Summer and "The Boy Is Mine" by Brandy & Monica
Song Scorecard: Beyonce's "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" tops the 4 million mark in paid downloads in its 78th week. It's the 15th song to reach this plateau. Six of the 15 songs are by female artists. Lady Gaga accounts for two. Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and now Beyonce all account for one. "Single Ladies" won a Grammy for Song of the Year earlier this year. This is the second year in a row that the winner in that category has been a 4-million seller.
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Post by When I Ruled the World on May 19, 2010 16:27:01 GMT -5
Yeah I don't understand why in this country, EVERY "pop" song nowadays needs to tack on a rapper - most of the time it adds absolutely nothing to the song, yet it almost guarantees that it'll get more airplay on pop stations for some reason, even though the song was POP to begin with. It may as well just be another six months of BEP domination for all I care - because all of the number ones this year have been in the same format. Why is it that 300K+ knuckleheads can run out and buy Eminem's single but 300K+ can't run out and buy Katy's? Why is it always the rap/urban s**t that wins out in the end, and I'm not even talkin airplay here. Yes, I understand that this is the "sound" that today's youth wants to hear, it almost amazes me how stuff like "Fireflies" by Owl City and "Hey There Delilah" even got to #1 in this sad musical climate. I so agree with you, but other posters will give you shit. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2010 16:28:56 GMT -5
Telephone" by Lady Gaga featuring Beyonce tops the 2 million mark in paid downloads this week. It's the first all-female collaboration to reach this sales plateau in the digital era. Back in the old days of physical singles, two all-female collabos were certified by the RIAA for sales of 2 million copies: "No More Tears (Enough Is Enough)" by Barbra Streisand and Donna Summer and "The Boy Is Mine" by Brandy & Monica Song Scorecard: Beyonce's "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" tops the 4 million mark in paid downloads in its 78th week. It's the 15th song to reach this plateau. Six of the 15 songs are by female artists. Lady Gaga accounts for two. Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and now Beyonce all account for one. "Single Ladies" won a Grammy for Song of the Year earlier this year. This is the second year in a row that the winner in that category has been a 4-million seller.  |
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Post by abc on May 19, 2010 16:30:59 GMT -5
Telephone" by Lady Gaga featuring Beyonce tops the 2 million mark in paid downloads this week. It's the first all-female collaboration to reach this sales plateau in the digital era. Back in the old days of physical singles, two all-female collabos were certified by the RIAA for sales of 2 million copies: "No More Tears (Enough Is Enough)" by Barbra Streisand and Donna Summer and "The Boy Is Mine" by Brandy & Monica Song Scorecard: Beyonce's "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" tops the 4 million mark in paid downloads in its 78th week. It's the 15th song to reach this plateau. Six of the 15 songs are by female artists. Lady Gaga accounts for two. Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and now Beyonce all account for one. "Single Ladies" won a Grammy for Song of the Year earlier this year. This is the second year in a row that the winner in that category has been a 4-million seller. So beyonce is a black female artist which can do that. :) |
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Post by stetz on May 19, 2010 17:54:13 GMT -5
Why is it that 300K+ knuckleheads can run out and buy Eminem's single but 300K+ can't run out and buy Katy's? Why is it always the rap/urban s**t that wins out in the end, and I'm not even talkin airplay here. Yes, I understand that this is the "sound" that today's youth wants to hear, it almost amazes me how stuff like "Fireflies" by Owl City and "Hey There Delilah" even got to #1 in this sad musical climate. Most people who are fans of music that isn't topping the charts are people who don't even listen to the radio and who download/share music for free, generally speaking, IMO. Then we need some means of incorporating the people that do those things into the charts ya know? they love their music just as much as the people that do listen to radio and download music legally haha. |
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Post by Glove Slap on May 19, 2010 18:05:02 GMT -5
Most people who are fans of music that isn't topping the charts are people who don't even listen to the radio and who download/share music for free, generally speaking, IMO. Then we need some means of incorporating the people that do those things into the charts ya know? they love their music just as much as the people that do listen to radio and download music legally haha. But no revenue is generated from someone illegally downloading songs. Radio play and digital sales do generate revenue, so they should be counted. |
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Post by weaver on May 19, 2010 18:09:25 GMT -5
So are we thinking CG will debut at #2? I thought with the way the pop bars looked it was almost a shoo in for #1....oh well. I don't think Miley is gonna be #1 next week though- her song is nowhere near as "instant" as CG, and it will have the competition of OMG and CG and the Eminem song etc.
I think CG is gonna get some big airplay though, and will continue to be strong on iTunes, and will eventually be #1.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 19, 2010 18:11:07 GMT -5
CG won't debut at #1. It will most likely get there eventually though unless something crazy happens. I don't think CBT is competition-it will most likely be blocked by Usher/Katy. I believe it will sell very well, but not enough for a #1.
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Post by slicknickshady on May 19, 2010 18:32:26 GMT -5
Eminem is the only straight up rapper. Bad Robot is on the money.
It's not fair to put those others in the same category as Eminem.
"Tik Tok" - Kesha (Not a rapper)
"Imma Be" - Black Eyed Peas (a couple wanna be rappers)
"Break Your Heart" - Taio Cruz featuring Ludacris (a r&b singer)
"Rude Boy" - Rihanna (a r&b singer)
"Nothin' on You" - B.o.B featuring Bruno Mars (A rapper who also sings in most of his stuff)
"OMG" - Usher featuring will.i.am (a r&b singer)
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Post by Fresh on May 19, 2010 19:45:44 GMT -5
Pop Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Break Your Heart" Taio Cruz Featuring Ludacris
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 23 "California Gurls" Katy Perry Featuring Snoop Dogg
Debut No. 35 "Can't Be Tamed" Miley Cyrus
Debut No. 38 "The Only Exception" Paramore
Debut No. 39 "Gettin' Over You" David Guetta & Chris Willis Featuring Fergie & LMFAO
Adult Contemporary
*** No. 1 *** "Need You Now" Lady Antebellum
Greatest Gainer No. 9 "Live Like We're Dying" Kris Allen
Debut No. 28 "Loving You Is Easy" Sarah McLachlan
Debut No. 30 "Fearless Love" Melissa Etheridge
Adult Pop Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Breakeven" The Script
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 28 "California Gurls" Katy Perry Featuring Snoop Dogg
Debut No. 35 "Alejandro" Lady Gaga
Debut No. 40 "On Your Own" Green River Ordinance
Dance/Club Play Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Imma Be" The Black Eyed Peas
Greatest Gainer No. 13 "Not Myself Tonight" Christina Aguilera
Hot Shot Debut No. 36 "Commander" Kelly Rowland
Debut No. 40 "Alejandro" Lady Gaga
Debut No. 47 "Rich (Fake It Til You Make It)" Lolene
Debut No. 49 "Big Love" Suzanne Palmer
Debut No. 50 "Alligator" Tegan And Sara
Rap Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Nothin' On You" B.o.B Featuring Bruno Mars
Greatest Gainer No. 10 "Airplanes" B.o.B Featuring Hayley Williams
Debut No. 22 "Your Love" Nicki Minaj
Rock Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Between The Lines" Stone Temple Pilots
Hot Shot Debut No. 46 "The Sound (John M. Perkins' Blues)" Switchfoot
Debut No. 49 "Miracle" Nonpoint
Greatest Gainer "I Should Have Known It" Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers
Alternative Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Lay Me Down" The Dirty Heads Featuring Rome
Greatest Gainer No. 13 "In One Ear" Cage The Elephant
Debut No. 33 "Oildale (Leave Me Alone)" Korn
Debut No. 35 "Stupid Girl (Only In Hollywood)" Saving Abel
Debut No. 38 "Last Of The American Girls" Green Day
Debut No. 39 "Laredo" Band Of Horses
Country Songs
*** No. 1 *** "The Man I Want To Be" Chris Young
Greatest Gainer No. 29 "I'm In" Keith Urban
Hot Shot Debut No. 54 "This Ain't No Love Song" Trace Adkins
Debut No. 56 "Barbie Doll" Jack Ingram Featuring Dierks Bentley
Debut No. 57 "If I Die Young" The Band Perry
Debut No. 60 "Chicken & Biscuits" Colt Ford
Jazz Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Ritmo De Otono" Bernie Williams Featuring Dave Koz
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 30 "Touch And Go" Jazzmasters
Latin Songs
*** No. 1 ***/Greatest Gainer "Guapa" Diego Torres
Hot Shot Debut No. 39 "El Malo" Aventura
Regional Mexican Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Al Menos" La Original Banda El Limon
Greatest Gainer No. 6 "Dime Que Me Quieres" Banda El Recodo
Debut No. 38 "No Es Tan Solo La Mitad" La Adictiva Banda San Jose de Mesillas
Debut No. 39 "El Morralito" Los Originales de San Juan
Debut No. 40 "Quisiera" Los Herederos De Nuevo Leon
Latin Pop Songs
*** No. 1 ***/Greatest Gainer "Guapa" Diego Torres
Debut No. 30 "Tu Boca" Chayanne
Debut No. 38 "Tu No Sabes Que Tanto" Carlos Baute
Debut No. 40 "Rude Boy" Rihanna
Tropical Songs
*** No. 1 *** "Estupida" India
Greatest Gainer No. 5 "Guapa" Diego Torres
Debut No. 24 "Loco" Jowell & Randy
Debut No. 25 "Quiere Pa' Que Te Quieran" Dyland Y Lenny
Debut No. 32 "Vivir Sin Ti" Gilberto Santa Rosa
Debut No. 38 "Besos Mojados" Wisin & Yandel
Christian Songs
*** No. 1 *** "All Of Creation" MercyMe
Greatest Gainer No. 10 "Healing Begins" Tenth Avenue North
Hot Shot Debut No. 42 "Come As You Are" Pocket Full Of Rocks
Debut No. 45 "Starry Night" Chris August
Debut No. 46 "Avalanche" Manafest
Debut No. 49 "You Hold Me Now" Robert Pierre
Gospel Songs
*** No. 1 *** "The Best In Me" Marvin Sapp
Greatest Gainer No. 13 "The Lifter" Ted Winn
Debut No. 23 "The Great I Am (Live)" Earnest Pugh
Debut No. 30 "Changes" MD Stokes & Victorious Praise
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Post by d.t.m on May 19, 2010 21:11:03 GMT -5
Damn, wanted Katy to get that #1 this week.
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