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Post by Kavla on Jan 28, 2011 7:29:37 GMT -5
These are my favourite lyrics by GaGa. I think this song, if a hit, will be a classic. Although, it's bound to be her biggest hit yet, JMO.
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Jan 28, 2011 9:49:20 GMT -5
For the most part, I like the lyrics. Now I just hope I enjoy the delivery and production of the song...
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Post by when the pawn... on Jan 28, 2011 10:26:53 GMT -5
Not sure what to say, I'll wait until I hear it
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Post by jen on Jan 28, 2011 10:59:37 GMT -5
DON'T BE A DRAG -JUST BE A QUEEN DON'T BE A DRAG -JUST BE A QUEEN DON'T BE A DRAG -JUST BE A QUEEN Cringe worthy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 11:41:03 GMT -5
I have seen a LOT of "don't be a drag/just be a queen" Facebook and Twitter updates.
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Post by nightshade on Jan 28, 2011 12:08:23 GMT -5
as have I, jazzysoul47. I think this will do just fine.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Jan 28, 2011 13:27:15 GMT -5
Poker Face is my favourite GaGa single ever. It took me over 18 months to even remotely get tired of hearing it . T'was the song that made me the Monster that I am today . I've always liked Gaga, but Paparazzi sealed the deal +1. Paparazzi sealed the deal for me as well and her performance of it on the VMA's put the stamp on it.
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Post by K. on Jan 28, 2011 14:17:13 GMT -5
Definitely her worst lyrics of any song except perhaps Christmas Tree, but I presume that song was intended to be a joke.
Still, if the beat and melody are good I think it could still end up being a great track overall.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Jan 28, 2011 14:47:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure she was intending it to be a joke. I think we know full well what audience(s) she's reaching for.
I applaud her. She has a message. And she's clearly stating it.
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Post by K. on Jan 28, 2011 14:58:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure she was intending it to be a joke. I think we know full well what audience(s) she's reaching for. I applaud her. She has a message. And she's clearly stating it. I meant Christmas Tree. This song, I presume, is not a joke, which makes the joke-worthy lyrics a little more questionable. Still, as I said, I think it could still turn out to be a great track. Lyrics don't matter much these days anyway.
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Post by Black Jesus on Jan 28, 2011 15:12:54 GMT -5
Lyrics don't matter much these days anyway. This.
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Post by Bojangles on Jan 28, 2011 15:31:10 GMT -5
I want to hear this.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jan 28, 2011 17:18:06 GMT -5
Not sure what to say, I'll wait until I hear it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 18:38:15 GMT -5
I actually want Born This Way to be an amazing ballad like Christina's "Beautiful".
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Post by Pappa-D! on Jan 28, 2011 21:32:19 GMT -5
I actually want Born This Way to be an amazing ballad like Christina's "Beautiful". No. With lyrics like that I doubt it'll be a ballad.
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Post by . on Jan 28, 2011 21:54:18 GMT -5
In my head, I hear her singing these lyrics in a similar melody to 'Bad Romance' for some reason. It actually fits so well with it.
"I want your love and your revenge, you and me could write a bad romance" - "I'm beau-tiful in my way, cos God makes no mistakes, I'm on the right track, baby I was born this way"
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Post by discoloser on Jan 29, 2011 5:03:45 GMT -5
^B/RAD had similar thoughts. Perhaps DITD meets BR? Idk
For some reason i have a picture in my head a simple music video for BTW.
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Post by slw84 on Jan 29, 2011 14:19:30 GMT -5
I actually want Born This Way to be an amazing ballad like Christina's "Beautiful". Speaking of which...I wonder when ballads will go back in style. i would like for her to release one at some point.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jan 29, 2011 14:31:44 GMT -5
These lyrics are pretty bad, I'm not gonna lie... It's like she woke up one morning and said, "I'm gonna write a gay anthem today" and didn't put a whole lot of thought into it... The message actually would be a lot more powerful without in-your-face lyrics like "No matter gay, straight, or bi, lesbian, transgendered life" and "A different lover is not a sin."
But like others have said, the delivery and production could make this work.
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Post by libri on Jan 29, 2011 23:20:55 GMT -5
The message actually would be a lot more powerful without in-your-face lyrics like "No matter gay, straight, or bi, lesbian, transgendered life" and "A different lover is not a sin." Then it would be just like those other songs which just skirted the issue. I think she's trying to confront it head on. Just like her speech for the DADT rally -- she's wasn't placating, she was taking the confrontational route with the 'if you don't like it, go home' slogan. She pointed out the injustice and the absurdity of DADT in that it was the gay soldiers who had done nothing wrong who got punished and fired for the sake of the straight soldiers who were "uncomfortable" with having gay people in their ranks. DADT punishes the innocents for the sake of the prejudiced -- it should've been the other way around. I think that's what she's trying to do here. And thus the in-your-face mention of LGBT. She's also confronting the main arguments used to justify homophobia -- that being gay is a choice (and thus they call it a 'lifestyle'), and that according to the bible, it's a sin for a man to sleep with another male. I guess the rumors are true -- she does have balls. Whether she's genuine or not about the cause, at least she's also willing to take a real risk for it. The same can't be said about others. She risks alienating a good chunk of her base -- nobody sells 5+ mil. albums these days without selling to middle America -- and potential fans. And if she somehow manages to make it a hit, the words LGBT will be all over the pop channels in the real sense of those words. I'm not crazy about the lyrics either. Her lyrics are usually a lot more opaque and could be interpreted in different ways. But apart from the check list part, I don't see them as any worse than most other inspirational songs. They're almost always cheesy. I think 'Beautiful' is cheesy, and 'I Believe I can Fly' is even cheesier. I hope the other songs display more of the qualities that I love about her lyrics. She has a knack for lyrics that seem simple and succinct, but manage to capture what she wants to say effectively, and she says them in a way that's totally her own, and thus avoiding cliche. "I want your ugly. I want your disease. I want your everything as long as it's free" to say that I love you so much that I don't just want to know the good, but also the bad side of you. "Baby loves to dance in the dark, cause when he's looking she falls apart" -- about a girl who's insecure about her body and would only make love with the lights out to avoid judgment. The ingenious Hitchcock movies references. Etc.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 30, 2011 0:23:40 GMT -5
for the sake of argument, what if it's a complete disaster? Then what?
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jan 30, 2011 1:15:48 GMT -5
for the sake of argument, what if it's a complete disaster? Then what? At worst, "Born This Way" could function as a buzz single. But if the very reason for its underperformance is over how some or many stations won't play it due to the subject matter of the song, that simple fact would keep "Born This Way" in the headlines and will be a subject of discussion. The song could be successful salewise and still be a 'hit'. Keep in mind how much discussion occurs after her videos are released, and even when she just releases the lyrics to a new song. And if it is of a controversial nature, it will get even more attention. If the situation is totally catastrophic and the digital sales can't even carry it, hopefully the label will move quickly and rush out a second single. However, that would seriously interrupt any strategy they have planned. They would have to work fast to record a music video. Even though videos don't take that long to film, the post-production usually seems to, especially with Gaga videos. Since the album release isn't due until the end of May, they have time to release another single or two (or three) if need be. But if they are unable to re-gain the momentum needed for the album to do even moderately well with additional singles released, then they should seriously reconsider the release of the album. At this point, there is nothing that we can do but hope for the best possible outcome.
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Post by Nadia on Jan 30, 2011 1:21:35 GMT -5
for the sake of argument, what if it's a complete disaster? Then what? Release one of the RedOne songs asap
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Post by discoloser on Jan 30, 2011 14:36:52 GMT -5
I'm sure the label has a second single to release regardless of how the first one does.
IMO, it'll probably go Top 10 based on on sales along. Going #1 would be a bit of suprise to me. Either way, if it plummets down the chart and doesn't have steady sales (airplay too) then it'll be a potential failure.
Who knows, maybe even so many fans will be 'jaded" as to how this will do and it will help propel it to do better. *shrugs*
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Post by Stephen on Jan 30, 2011 14:48:30 GMT -5
To be honest, I think these lyrics are the most self-indulgent things ever. It's kind of ridiculous how these lyrics, as cringe-worthy as they are, aren't being torn to shreds because it's GaGa. Any other artist singing this would be laughed at, mocked, and probably denied from pop radio. It's absurd, is what it is. I almost feel like GaGa did this to prove that she can get whatever she puts out played on radio, and for her sake I hope no one spins this and it fails so she can learn her place.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jan 30, 2011 14:57:13 GMT -5
To be honest, I think these lyrics are the most self-indulgent things ever. It's kind of ridiculous how these lyrics, as cringe-worthy as they are, aren't being torn to shreds because it's GaGa. Any other artist singing this would be laughed at, mocked, and probably denied from pop radio. It's absurd, is what it is. I almost feel like GaGa did this to prove that she can get whatever she puts out played on radio, and for her sake I hope no one spins this and it fails so she can learn her place. That's exactly what I said. Exactly.
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Post by discoloser on Jan 30, 2011 15:15:36 GMT -5
If they were a new artist maybe, maybe established acts can release anything currently.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jan 30, 2011 18:14:41 GMT -5
for her sake I hope no one spins this and it fails so she can learn her place. Many at other message boards and blogs I visit are echoing that same sentiment. They want her to fail completely so she'll have no chance of coming back. I think that's a little bit overboard and harsh, but some are just tired of her and think she has run her course and there's really no stone left unturned with her. Some of my friends think she has totally lost it and she needs to undergo a psychiatric evaluation before she continues on with her career.
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Post by hitseeker. on Jan 30, 2011 18:31:11 GMT -5
well, the lyrics are pretty straightforward and I kind of like them. I know some of the lines we weren't expecting to see, they're unusual I accept it, but not all songs have to contain the lyrics: "get on the floor/let's dance/work it baby/I'm alright" and stuff like that. I'll wait for the whole song, with the production and everything, it'll make things different. If they were a new artist maybe, maybe established acts can release anything currently. that's a way of looking at things, I believe that if you are an established artist, you can afford to take risks with the work you put out because people already know who you are and have liked most of your previous work, so in order to evolve and explore new ground, you are allowed to do different things. To be honest, I think these lyrics are the most self-indulgent things ever. It's kind of ridiculous how these lyrics, as cringe-worthy as they are, aren't being torn to shreds because it's GaGa. Any other artist singing this would be laughed at, mocked, and probably denied from pop radio. It's absurd, is what it is. I almost feel like GaGa did this to prove that she can get whatever she puts out played on radio, and for her sake I hope no one spins this and it fails so she can learn her place. I'm sorry, but that's just mean and ridiculous. She may not be the most 'normal' artist out there, but at least she tries to be different and stand out, sure some of her actions or comments are a bit questionable, but I don't believe she's affected mentally in anyw ay or anything. People are just trying to make her look like insane or something lol. She is, in fact, very smart, knows what she's doing and has a great team behind her that won't let her fall that easily. Nowadays, pop music is just much of the same, so I'm glad she's tries to shake things up.
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Post by jared on Jan 30, 2011 18:34:59 GMT -5
I have a few thoughts about the lyrics:
I'm really, really proud of her for sending such a strong message to radio. If the song wasn't great/had no chance of success, there's no way her label would let her release it (I mean, she's huge, but they're all still looking to make money).
And, okay, some of her fans may be alienated by the song, but really - go to one of her concerts - she's constantly preaching for equality and general gayness. She's walking the walk in her support of the LGBT community, and I find that refreshing.
Also, let's consider the lyrics. By some standards, yes, the lyrics are "bad." However, considering the subject matter... I just find the thing ridiculously (and wonderfully) CAMPY. I'm shocked that I haven't been anyone that's used that word to describe them. I think campy Lady Gaga could be awesome, personally. And quite frankly, I'm sure most of the songs on this album will not be as campy, but here she's going for a new gay anthem, and I think (know) she'll get that from this song.
Finally, even if this "ruins" her career - I don't really care. She's brilliant and as long as her output stays fresh and creative, I'll still be listening. She's got enough money now to do whatever she wants. If she has to start playing small town gay bars, whatever - she's still got me.
And about bad lyrics and pop radio... let's not forget the successful hits Imma Be and whatever crap Kesha puts out.
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