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Post by Gravity. on Jul 1, 2010 20:29:50 GMT -5
The only thing about this song that I don't like is that some of the production seems intentionally messy. I don't like when producers try to make it feel "imperfect."
The video sounds very interesting, and I cannot wait for it to premiere.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 6, 2010 11:39:14 GMT -5
I'm kinding hoping it gets the distinction of being her biggest chart debut; her previous best I believe was "Me and Charlie Talking" entering at #48 It could very well challenge that, but debuts are a very tough thing to figure out. It wouldn't take much for an artist as redhot as Miranda to gain over a million with this song, but again, it depends if the radio stations add it. Let's say she does gain a million though...on top of what she already has, her total audience could approach 1.5 million. That'd easily put her into the mid-40's, perhaps close to where Darius debuted this week. Or, maybe Miranda gets a ton of stations to jump on her and surprises some people, debuting really high, like maybe the lower 40's? Or maybe only a couple stations add her and she sneaks on in the low 50's. It's tough to say at this point in the week. I do expect her to debut, however, and more than likely lead the crop of new songs to the top 60. Very good. Darius Rucker debuted at #44 last week while Miranda Lambert debuted at #45 this week.
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Jul 6, 2010 11:42:23 GMT -5
It could very well challenge that, but debuts are a very tough thing to figure out. It wouldn't take much for an artist as redhot as Miranda to gain over a million with this song, but again, it depends if the radio stations add it. Let's say she does gain a million though...on top of what she already has, her total audience could approach 1.5 million. That'd easily put her into the mid-40's, perhaps close to where Darius debuted this week. Or, maybe Miranda gets a ton of stations to jump on her and surprises some people, debuting really high, like maybe the lower 40's? Or maybe only a couple stations add her and she sneaks on in the low 50's. It's tough to say at this point in the week. I do expect her to debut, however, and more than likely lead the crop of new songs to the top 60. Very good. Darius Rucker debuted at #44 last week while Miranda Lambert debuted at #45 this week. Is there a possibility for a #46 debut next week?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 6, 2010 12:04:49 GMT -5
I'm kinding hoping it gets the distinction of being her biggest chart debut; her previous best I believe was "Me and Charlie Talking" entering at #48 Didn't Charlie debut at #43? I thought she tied the record set by Buddy Jewell's #43 debut (with "Help Pour Out the Rain") for the highest debut by a new artist. And yet Charlie limped its way to #27 despite all the momentum. Actually, the charts were really weird in late 2004. Lots of songs were debuting and then falling right back out. I know Diamond Rio, Notorious Cherry Bombs, Cledus T. Judd Carolina Rain and Emerson Drive all had songs that looked like they were about to blast into the 40 but suddenly went the other way. The Top 10 was clearing out at an alarming rate, too.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 6, 2010 12:41:36 GMT -5
^ Huh? Buddy Jewell's first single reached #3 on the chart...
And I thought "Me and Charlie Talking" had debuted at #48... IDK for sure, but you seem to be pretty confuzzled about Buddy Jewell
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 6, 2010 12:45:54 GMT -5
^ Huh? Buddy Jewell's first single reached #3 on the chart... It debuted at #43, though. That was the highest debut ever achieved by an artist's first single.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 13:49:19 GMT -5
It could very well challenge that, but debuts are a very tough thing to figure out. It wouldn't take much for an artist as redhot as Miranda to gain over a million with this song, but again, it depends if the radio stations add it. Let's say she does gain a million though...on top of what she already has, her total audience could approach 1.5 million. That'd easily put her into the mid-40's, perhaps close to where Darius debuted this week. Or, maybe Miranda gets a ton of stations to jump on her and surprises some people, debuting really high, like maybe the lower 40's? Or maybe only a couple stations add her and she sneaks on in the low 50's. It's tough to say at this point in the week. I do expect her to debut, however, and more than likely lead the crop of new songs to the top 60. Very good. Darius Rucker debuted at #44 last week while Miranda Lambert debuted at #45 this week. Thanks for the compliment. I've been working hard on trying to nail down predictions over the last several months or so. ^ Huh? Buddy Jewell's first single reached #3 on the chart... It debuted at #43, though. That was the highest debut ever achieved by an artist's first single. I'm not sure exactly how high "Me and Charlie Talking" debuted, but for what it's worth, Wikipedia (yeah, I know...) has it debuting at #42. So does that mean that Miranda has the record for the highest debut for a debut single from a new artist, or do other sources still claim it to be Buddy Jewell? Or (lol), am I completely forgetting someone, maybe recently, who had their debut single debut higher? And btw, does anyone else find it crazy how quick Buddy Jewell fell off the radar?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 6, 2010 15:27:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure exactly how high "Me and Charlie Talking" debuted, but for what it's worth, Wikipedia (yeah, I know...) has it debuting at #42. So does that mean that Miranda has the record for the highest debut for a debut single from a new artist, or do other sources still claim it to be Buddy Jewell? Or (lol), am I completely forgetting someone, maybe recently, who had their debut single debut higher? And btw, does anyone else find it crazy how quick Buddy Jewell fell off the radar? I was off. Buddy debuted at #44; the previous record was Wynonna's "She Is His Only Need" debuting at #45 according to the source in the "Help Pour Out the Rain" article. "Me and Charlie Talking" indeed debuted at #42 according to this, tying the record set by Brad Cotter's "I Meant To." (Turns out I was the one forgetting someone!) I have no idea how both singles managed to fare so poorly from such high debuts, especially Brad — he gained only SEVEN SPACES in his entire chart run. And then his next two singles peaked at #59 about two months apart. Rule of thumb: If you see a little blue number after a sentence on Wikipedia, you can generally trust that the sentence is accurate — that blue number links to a reference used to back up that statement.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 6, 2010 15:28:18 GMT -5
^ Huh? Buddy Jewell's first single reached #3 on the chart... It debuted at #43, though. That was the highest debut ever achieved by an artist's first single. Alrighty then And btw, does anyone else find it crazy how quick Buddy Jewell fell off the radar? Not really, he was unworthy of his success... as evidenced by his "This Ain't Mexico" song, which effectively put the nail the coffin
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Post by Zazie on Jul 6, 2010 15:47:10 GMT -5
^^ I don't think it's unusual for a song to debut high and then prove unable to gain much ground. Big word of mouth, disappointing music following it up.
It happens to superstars sometimes too. Urban's Once In A Lifetime had a huge debut -- but after people got to hear it, it stalled at a relatively low position. I can't remember the chart run for Toby's Mockingbird, so I'm not sure that one followed the same pattern -- but there must be quite a few songs that have chart runs that don't match their debut week.
I'm not passing judgment on any of the songs you or I mention -- just saying that the marketplace didn't buy what the word of mouth was selling.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 6, 2010 15:58:15 GMT -5
I think if a song debuts too high then people might get tired of it a bit quick... Reba's "Strange" debuted really high and moved quickly up the charts but then it slowed way down 'cause it was probably played too much
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Post by Zazie on Jul 6, 2010 16:01:53 GMT -5
I think if a song debuts too high then people might get tired of it a bit quick... Reba's "Strange" debuted really high and moved quickly up the charts but then it slowed way down 'cause it was probably played too much Only if it's a disappointing release or something that got hyped like crazy. I think you'll find that, most of the time, high debuts correlate with high peaks.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 6, 2010 17:35:50 GMT -5
Mockingbird zoomed into the 40 after about two weeks then hit the wall at 28 VERY quickly, I think about seven or eight weeks. It inched up to 27, fell to 29 and 31 before dropping out of the 40. I always got the impression that it was just a stopgap until the next single was ready from the next album, kind of like AJ's Bologna song.
Actually, the followup, Honky Tonk U, is a good example too. It went 30-22-18-17-15-13-14-11-12-12-9-8-10-downward. And let's not forget All Jacked Up needing only 6 or 7 weeks to go from 21 to 8 before turning right back around.
But, as Zazie pointed out, high debut -> low peak is exception more than rule.
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Post by kevin59 on Jul 22, 2010 12:05:25 GMT -5
Miranda Lambert’s New Video For "Only Prettier" To Premiere On VEVO August 3rd For Immediate Release July 22, 2010
After sitting pretty on the country charts with her record breaking four-week #1 single, “The House That Built Me,” Miranda Lambert is laying on the southern charm with her sassy anthem and new single, “Only Prettier.” The video for this tongue-in-cheek commentary about mean-girl cattiness will make its world premiere on VEVO August 3rd at 12AM ET with a 48 hour exclusive. The “Only Prettier” video will be available on all media outlets beginning August 5.
The “Only Prettier” video will be available across the VEVO platform, which includes VEVO.com, VEVO on YouTube and the destinations where VEVO powers music video such as AOL and CBS Interactive Music Group’s sites.
Directed by Trey Fanjoy, the video was shot against a 1950’s rockabilly backdrop at a middle school gymnasium in Joelton, TN. Lambert asked friends Kellie Pickler, Laura Bell Bundy and Lady Antebellum’s Hillary Scott to join her in a mini-movie as two rival cliques of girls attend a high school sock hop.
“Only Prettier” is the fourth release from her critically acclaimed third album, Revolution, and follows her four-week #1 “House That Built Me,” as well as her first career #1 single “White Liar.”
This fall Lambert is headlining “CMT On Tour: Miranda Lambert REVOLUTION.” The nationwide tour which crosses 28 cities and includes special guests Eric Church and Josh Kelley will kick off on the one-year anniversary of the release of her album Revolution on September 29 in New York City.
A three-time GRAMMY® nominee, platinum-selling recording artist and hit singer/songwriter, Miranda Lambert recently received her first CMT Award, following a year of impressive accolades. The fan-voted CMT Award for Female Video of the Year joins Miranda’s recent ACM wins for Album of the Year (Revolution), Female Vocalist of the Year and Video of the Year (“White Liar”).
Revolution has quickly surpassed the Gold sales mark after debuting at #1 on Billboard's Country Album Charts, making her one of four artists in country music history whose first three albums landed the top position right out of the box. It has received rare perfect reviews from countless publications including four stars from Rolling Stone and USA Today, an 'A' from Entertainment Weekly and exuberant praise from the New York Times, SPIN, the Washington Post and more. Many have proclaimed Revolution to be the "Best Album of the Year" in any genre including Entertainment Weekly, the Houston Chronicle and NPR's All Things Considered. Source: Song BMG Nashille Website
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 22, 2010 16:04:56 GMT -5
^ Awesome! I cannot wait for August 3rd! I get a new Reba single and a new Miranda video =D Definitely looking forward to that day for sure
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Post by sbp17 on Jul 23, 2010 14:56:47 GMT -5
Not her best song by far but I'm surprised this isn't moving up a bit faster after her ACM success and the huge success of her last single. I'm not suggesting it's on life support but I anticipated a quicker move.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2010 15:09:10 GMT -5
Not her best song by far but I'm surprised this isn't moving up a bit faster after her ACM success and the huge success of her last single. I'm not suggesting it's on life support but I anticipated a quicker move. I'm not worried at all. It had a couple good weeks, but keep in mind it's competing with the massive airplay that "The House That Built Me" is still getting, even though that one has gone recurrent. She made that one into a hit, given its excellent production, subject matter, and vocal execution. This one will be a hit too, but not to as big of an extent. It will begin to gain steadily soon--sure, Reba and Kenny and Sugarland will all move up, but those are lead singles. Miranda should do fine with this one...and the release of the star-studded video will no doubt give it a big boost. Radio knows she's got star power now after THTBM, so just give it a bit of time and "Only Prettier" will fare just fine. I still see #1 in its future, or at least top 5 if it has to compete with a ton of other big songs..
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 23, 2010 15:29:19 GMT -5
Yup, I don't have any worries about the eventual radio success of this single; I never expected it to move up as fast as THTBM, but it debuted at #45 so its off to a great start.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2010 15:41:25 GMT -5
Oh, one critical thing I forgot to mention is that this song, even though it is already at radio, doesn't officially go for adds until July 26. We recently saw George Strait's latest get a big boost when its adds day passed, as that song had charted before the adds date as well. So Miranda should probably see a spike in audience for the week of the 26th to August 1st, and that spike will be reflected on the 8/14 chart, which is the week after next week. Hopefully that all makes sense!
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Post by bigbluenote on Jul 23, 2010 22:56:02 GMT -5
I thought adds dates didn't matter much for artists as big as George. He goes through hits so fast, kinda like Toby the past few years, that adds dates do nothing for him. And their old singles normally drop fast to make room quickly for the new single.
I think this is off to a "slow" start ONLY because of the MASSIVE airplay "The House That Built Me" is getting, as mentioned above. After her last 3 (unexpected, by most of us) hits, I have no doubt this'll hit top 5. Most likely #1. Radio stations just need to hurry up and transition their playlists from THTBM to "Only Prettier".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2010 23:47:28 GMT -5
It's true they might not matter as much, but I do think they matter a little bit still. As far as songs charting, they don't really matter...Carrie, Kenny, George, Miranda, Brad, etc. all are able to chart well before the adds date...but I think when that date does come around it sparks at least a decent spike in audience. I could be wrong in this case tho, but right now I'm thinking that Miranda could pick up a boost in 2 weeks' time. Not that it will be huge, but it could help to get the ball rolling a bit more, and stations will indeed start transitioning from THTBM to Only Prettier. However, I don't think THTBM will really go away...she'll probably be competing with herself for many weeks yet...
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Post by Marv on Jul 25, 2010 21:22:00 GMT -5
I also expect 'THTBM' to continue to pick up plenty of recurrent airplay as it continues steadily climbing for what figures to be a finish in the year-end top five at Country Aircheck/Mediabase by the time the chart year ends eighteen weeks from yesterday, on November 27th.
'Only Prettier' probably won't climb the charts as quickly as 'THTBM' did; I expect a more languid pace similar to the one which 'White Liar' took during its leisurely 23-week long stroll to #1, including an all-out push at the very end that got her into the penthouse.
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Post by GRRR on Jul 25, 2010 21:48:30 GMT -5
I finally gave in and bought the album at the mall (I barely buy physical cds anymore), and was so happy even though my friend was all like 'eww why a country cd" lol. I love it! I would have preferred "Me and Your Cigarettes" as the 4th single, but this is a great choice, I hope it does well. I'm hoping they will release a 5th,let's get those sales to a million!!
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Post by Zazie on Jul 25, 2010 22:35:27 GMT -5
I like the song, at least its lyrics; but I agree with Gravity's comment up above that the production sounds "messy." It interferes with the way the song comes across on the radio.
I know she's a superstar now, but I could easily see this song falling way short of #1. Not even making the top 10, in fact. I don't suppose that will happen, because country radio takes the safe path at all times, but in a parallel universe this song wouldn't be assured of big success, and could easily fail. It just doesn't sound good on my car radio -- it sounds like the station is too far away to pull in clearly.
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Post by robrt30 on Jul 27, 2010 19:59:33 GMT -5
I know she's a superstar now, but I could easily see this song falling way short of #1. Not even making the top 10, in fact. I don't suppose that will happen, because country radio takes the safe path at all times, but in a parallel universe this song wouldn't be assured of big success, and could easily fail. It just doesn't sound good on my car radio -- it sounds like the station is too far away to pull in clearly. Interesting theory. I also agree with everyone that the song is off to a slower start than many people expected simply because of THTBM. Kind of like what happened with Brad after "Then." It took radio forever to really let go of "Then." After back-to-back big hits, it would be surprising if Miranda slipped back into her hit-or-miss pattern. (Granted, the new definition of "miss" for Miranda is now probably something around #10 as opposed to the old definition of something in the 30s or 40s). But if radio is a stickler to its quota of only playing a certain number of songs by female artists...with Reba's resurgance, with Taylor about to return, and Carrie releasing a follow-up...it's certainly possible that Miranda could "miss" here. Personally, I was one of about three people who didn't muster up much enthusiasm for THTBM and I like "Only Prettier" even less. I really liked "White Liar" and "Dead Flowers" a lot (go figure). I was actually kind of hoping that "Flowers" would get re-released since it would peak much higher this time around. Pop artists do the re-release thing every once in a blue moon. I'm not sure how often that happens among country artists, if it even does.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 27, 2010 20:09:57 GMT -5
But if radio is a stickler to its quota of only playing a certain number of songs by female artists...with Reba's resurgance, with Taylor about to return, and Carrie releasing a follow-up...it's certainly possible that Miranda could "miss" here. Way I see it is that Miranda rounds out that group; I think all 4 of them are the go-to females right now, and none of the other 3 should threaten Miranda much
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jul 28, 2010 10:59:20 GMT -5
Personally, I was one of about three people who didn't muster up much enthusiasm for THTBM and I like "Only Prettier" even less. I really liked "White Liar" and "Dead Flowers" a lot (go figure). I was actually kind of hoping that "Flowers" would get re-released since it would peak much higher this time around. Pop artists do the re-release thing every once in a blue moon. I'm not sure how often that happens among country artists, if it even does. You need look no further than Chris Young's current single, "Voices," to find a single re-released after an artist has gained some traction at radio. In fact, "Voices" had the same initial peak (#37 on the country chart) as "Dead Flowers." But there are differences. "Dead Flowers" was introduced by an ACM Awards show performance, and Miranda was already a well-known quantity to country radio listeners at the time that it was released. Chris Young was, by contrast, still trying to score his first top-30 hit when "Voices" came out. Moreover, and more to the point, Phyllis Stark pointed out in her Anatomy of a Hit column for "White Liar" (published 10 February 2010) that "Dead Flowers" didn't research well. It might research a little better after a couple of #1 hits but I don't think there would be enough of a turnaround to compel Columbia Nashville to re-release it as a single. To get back on topic, I'm not concerned by "Only Prettier"'s slow progress so far, because I think that any song that followed "The House That Built Me" was going to be slow going to start. I do think "Only Prettier" is more likely to have a high burn factor, so I don't think it will enjoy nearly as much recurrent play as its predecessor as a single.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 28, 2010 11:08:20 GMT -5
I don't think they should re-release "Dead Flowers" -- it may not have climbed very high but its already served its purpose and I'd rather have new singles than dipping back for an old one.
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Post by kevin59 on Jul 29, 2010 18:54:11 GMT -5
Lambert and “Friends” Shine in New VideoSock-hoppers Laura Bell Bundy, Kellie Pickler, Hillary Scott and Miranda Lambert Source: Music Row
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 29, 2010 18:55:53 GMT -5
^ I'm really lovin' the looks of this new video, hehe. Can't wait for next Tuesday! =D
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