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Post by Feelin'.$$$hady on Aug 2, 2010 20:15:19 GMT -5
OK i love this! they're easily my favourite US band of the past decade. It's a huge song, i hope it smashes. very well done LP!
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Post by mcbrearty on Aug 2, 2010 20:25:04 GMT -5
I think its alright. But i find the "Lift me up. Let me go. Lift me up. Let me go.........." part to be the only memorable part.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 2, 2010 21:51:12 GMT -5
I really wonder how this song will fare at active. This is definitely their most interesting and risky single, but I also think a lot of people who have become a bit fed up with Linkin Park might be reinvigorated by this song. I certainly would count myself among that group. it could debut in the top 5 and obviously end up #1 I agree with that on alt. It just doesn't sound like an active rock song to me.
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 2, 2010 22:01:36 GMT -5
Mmm...it's. Eh. Odd. I get the dance references now. It just doesn't have a super strong hook.
It's good, It's definitely a grower, but I'm a bit underwhelmed.
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 2, 2010 22:05:43 GMT -5
One thing I will say though, Is I'm incredibly impressed with the way this band manages to stay original. They changed after their first 2 albums, and now this sounds completely different than MTM and their first 2. This is what I like in a band.
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Post by thisbeautifulmess on Aug 2, 2010 23:12:24 GMT -5
"Stylo" comes to mind when hearing this, in that six months ago reaction was similar to that similarly non-traditional song. And while I don't expect this to get the shaft like that song did, it most likely won't do as well or have the longevity that it deserves to.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 3, 2010 1:12:23 GMT -5
Oh.. ok. Well.. I did find the MOH trailer version to be a little more repetitive than the album version. So I thought thats what you were getting at. When you like something, you really go all out don't you? Screen name, avatar, personal text, signature. Jesus.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Aug 3, 2010 1:27:03 GMT -5
Sounds sort of like what would happen if you put the .NUXX version of "Born Slippy" over the original.
Not to say it can possibly compete with either of those songs. It's decent, though. 6/10.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Aug 3, 2010 1:32:18 GMT -5
This one's definitely a grower. I think if I listen to it a few more times I'll appreciate it more.
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Post by David on Aug 3, 2010 2:52:39 GMT -5
Shit.. this is already #33 on itunes!
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Post by Rodze on Aug 3, 2010 7:43:51 GMT -5
Active: 48 LINKIN PARK The Catalyst 120 0 120 0.548
Alternative: 44 LINKIN PARK The Catalyst 193 0 193 1.709
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Post by No Brake$ on Aug 3, 2010 8:07:05 GMT -5
I give them credit for doing something a bit different but they are going to lose a lot of fans with this opening single, not to mention this song should only get curiosity spins because it really not radio friendly at all. On a side note, this is pretty bad LOL!
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Aug 3, 2010 9:14:36 GMT -5
Well, this may be the first song to ever go #1 on "curiosity" spins.
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Post by Rich P. on Aug 3, 2010 9:36:27 GMT -5
Not yet debut number 1, here's my formula (is this accurate?):
most recent day's spins + most recent day increase * days remaining
= 193 + 193 * 6 = 1351 = Number 5 debut
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Aug 3, 2010 9:58:28 GMT -5
It will certainly go #1 though ... it may debut lower...
One more thing: I don't think it premiered on most stations until the afternoon. Today's spin count will be a better guide, probably, than yesterday's.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Aug 3, 2010 10:14:17 GMT -5
Well, I for one am impressed. I've always felt like Linkin Park was a pretty good band with the potential to be great. If this song and the descriptions I've heard of the album are any indication, I may finally be seeing them live up to that potential.
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Post by mcbrearty on Aug 3, 2010 12:27:53 GMT -5
I'm wondering whether Linkin Park cares what their longterm fans think ? Are they moving in this direction for their fans, to give them a new direction to enjoy ? Or are just alienating fans simply because they want to do this kind of music and mainly because they can do whatever they like now, being as big as they are.
I guess nobody but linkin Park know this, but im reading alot of of dissapointed comments from Linkin Park fans on the net. You can call these people fools for not adapting to a new sound but when you get this many people feeling disappointed in a song, it ain't good.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 3, 2010 13:42:11 GMT -5
^You might not be aware of this being more of a pop guy, but do you know how many fans Linkin Park alienated/disappointed with 'Minutes To Midnight'? Probably more fans than this song will.
And whenever an artist tries to "go back to their roots" in order to appease their fans, it often sounds forced and insincere even, unless the band really felt the musical need to go back to their roots internally. 'Minutes To Midnight' feels almost like they forced a different sound because they didn't want to be pigeonholed as a one trick pony. This single, however, sounds like they've been completely liberated and are going all in to overwhelm the masses. Even if I didn't like the song, I'd appreciate the scope of what they're trying to do considering how much they've played it safe in the past. This is the same band who renamed themselves from Hybrid Theory to Linkin Park just so they could be next to Limp Bizkit in record stores for god's sake. To go from savvy (and safe) self-marketers to epic self-indulgent composers who completely don't aim for the masses at all...I love it. And while it is self-indulgent, to my ears it is very tastefully done and the most emotional they've ever been on record.
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Post by mcbrearty on Aug 3, 2010 14:00:40 GMT -5
^You might not be aware of this being more of a pop guy, but do you know how many fans Linkin Park alienated/disappointed with 'Minutes To Midnight'? Probably more fans than this song will...... Well first of all I ain't a "pop guy", I post in this forum more than the chr/pop one. I do know the reception that "Minutes to Midnight" received. But if this album is full of songs like this, I feel it will turn away people even more so than MTM did.
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Post by David on Aug 3, 2010 15:15:01 GMT -5
I don't think so at all. When LP first came around their sound was pretty unique and stood out. This is the same way. I think people who fell in love with them to first time around because of them standing out will do the same here. Polarizing doesn't always mean it will alienate the core of the fanbase. It might alienate casual fans though.
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Post by mcbrearty on Aug 3, 2010 15:40:35 GMT -5
I don't think so at all. When LP first came around their sound was pretty unique and stood out. This is the same way. I think people who fell in love with them to first time around because of them standing out will do the same here. Polarizing doesn't always mean it will alienate the core of the fanbase. It might alienate casual fans though. Well I actually don't mind the song I just wondered about the reception it's getting. I do think the second half of it, is really quite awesome.
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 3, 2010 15:47:19 GMT -5
The first time you hear this the reaction is generally "What...the...flapdoodle (or other "f" words)." But after the third time, it's amazing. I love the overall feel of the song. The band does a great job at keeping everyone guessing.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 3, 2010 16:44:24 GMT -5
My local active rock station hasn't added it yet, and they put it on their hit or diss segment today...and it's getting completely shat on. I don't think this is gonna go top 5 at active even though I like it.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Aug 3, 2010 18:24:05 GMT -5
i think that every linkin park lead single from what i've done and after can hit #1 on both rock charts
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Post by American Idiot on Aug 3, 2010 18:32:26 GMT -5
The first time you hear this the reaction is generally "What...the...flapdoodle (or other "f" words)." But after the third time, it's amazing. I love the overall feel of the song. The band does a great job at keeping everyone guessing. That's exactly my mindset as you all saw my "What is this? Dance?!?!" reaction earlier in the thread, but now that I've heard it a few times, I really do understand and appreciate the direction the band is going in now. This will be a #1 song on Alternative. No doubt about that, but I can totally see why fans of the bands on Active Rock would hate it to shreads. I wouldn't predict a Top 5 on there either, but it's not up to the fans most of the time whom choose how often a song is played on a station.
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Post by Radical347 on Aug 3, 2010 18:54:08 GMT -5
Between Live and Channel I've heard this about 10 times in the past 24 hours. Talk about overkill.
This song has to be a grower in order to work IMO, but I'm afraid they're going to burn me out on it before it has a chance.
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Post by Matt4319 on Aug 3, 2010 19:06:06 GMT -5
Not yet debut number 1, here's my formula (is this accurate?): most recent day's spins + most recent day increase * days remaining = 193 + 193 * 6 = 1351 = Number 5 debut Airplay for the Mediabase week ends on Saturday (the data is one day delayed). So it would be: 193 + (193 * 5) = 1158 using this formula, which would place it at #6 most likely. But I don't think it will get 193 spins a day for the rest of the week. An event premiere like this tends to be a bit front-loaded for the first day. Personally, I'm rather surprised it didn't get more spins yesterday.
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Post by Devin on Aug 3, 2010 22:11:25 GMT -5
Okay, say 193 + 300x4 = 1393 = #3 debut.
Does that sound about right?
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Post by Ron57 on Aug 4, 2010 1:17:30 GMT -5
Okay, after several listens I love this.
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Post by Rodze on Aug 4, 2010 8:36:31 GMT -5
Active: 48 LINKIN PARK The Catalyst 120 0 120 0.548 Alternative: 44 LINKIN PARK The Catalyst 193 0 193 1.709 MEDIABASE Active Rock: 37 LINKIN PARK The Catalyst 262 0 262 1.021 Spins: +142 AI: +0.473 Alternative: 30 LINKIN PARK The Catalyst 393 0 393 2.959 Spins: +200 AI: +1.250 Mainstream Rock: 36 LINKIN PARK The Catalyst Warner Bros. 2010 27 0 27 BDS (only the bullet) Alternative +389 Linkin Park The Catalyst Active Rock +197 Linkin Park The Catalyst Heritage Rock +28 Linkin Park The Catalyst
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