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Post by xxfetchmonsterxx on Dec 26, 2011 23:47:38 GMT -5
I was watching the Monster Ball today and I noticed that when she sings Poker Face, she says "this is the record that changed my career" and I thought, well didn't Just Dance change your career?
Just Dance started Gaga out and put her on the map; Poker Face launched her to superstardom. Which was more important for her career?
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Post by NeRD on Dec 27, 2011 0:16:01 GMT -5
Just Dance started Gaga out and put her on the map; Poker Face launched her to superstardom. Which was more important for her career? You pretty much anwered your own question.  |
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Post by xxfetchmonsterxx on Dec 27, 2011 0:18:02 GMT -5
Just Dance started Gaga out and put her on the map; Poker Face launched her to superstardom. Which was more important for her career? You pretty much anwered your own question. Well but without Just Dance Poker Face may not have been as well known/loved. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 0:27:31 GMT -5
She was a virtual nobody even after "Just Dance" became a hit. She wasn't any more well known than Colby O'Donis. "Poker Face" made people pay attention to her as an artist. But the single that really launched her into absolute superstardom was "Bad Romance".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 0:35:35 GMT -5
Just Dance is what launched Gaga, true, but even with that people were ready to write her off as a one-hit wonder. Poker Face proved that she was not a fluke, so that.
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Post by Rurry on Dec 27, 2011 0:42:38 GMT -5
While I agree that Poker Face may not have taken off without the help of Just Dance, it's PF that really got people to pay attention to her, so I definitely agree that it "changed her career".
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Post by Scotty on Dec 27, 2011 0:44:51 GMT -5
I was really inclined to vote Just Dance, but the comments here swayed me to go with Poker Face.
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Post by Gravity. on Dec 27, 2011 0:45:49 GMT -5
"Poker Face" proved that she was worth paying attention to. "Just Dance" was a fun pop song, nothing more.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 27, 2011 1:17:50 GMT -5
Poker Face, because it was massive EVERYWHERE. Just Dance was a great introduction for her, but PF took her to a whole new level towards being a worldwide superstar.
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Post by Gagafritz on Dec 27, 2011 2:06:22 GMT -5
My first exposure to Mother Monster was when my son played Poker Face on the radio or ipod or something. I was immediately captivated. Then, i saw her on Ellen singing it in her Bubble outfit and was totally mesmerized at that point! I bought her CD's, became a big fan and then went and attended 2 Monster Balls and had the time of my life!
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Post by K. on Dec 27, 2011 11:08:26 GMT -5
Just Dance put her on the radar, but could have been recorded by anyone. Poker Face really established the Gaga we know today.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Dec 27, 2011 13:19:05 GMT -5
I actually find Poker Face annoying. But I have a feeling that she would have had the same success had she flip flopped the singles. She has always been more about presentation - so that's what kind of got her going. Both of these songs are catchy poppy songs so it's not like one was more superior than the other. Once people realized there was more than just one song she had to offer - she was going to take off.
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Post by Rurry on Dec 27, 2011 14:10:31 GMT -5
I'm actually not sure Poker Face would've done that well as the lead single. You have to take yourself back to the fall of '08 when that sound was completely foreign to CHR. In fact, as weird as it seems now because we see it as "generic", Just Dance was kind of a gamble at first - it didn't even take off immediately, and they had to make a "rhythmic remix" of it with a hip hop beat to get the more urban-orientated CHRs on board. PF would've been way too jarring to introduce people to her.
So I do think Just Dance was vital in that it was generic enough to be embraced by radio but still let the public warm up to her sound. But yeah, Poker Face is what made people really pay attention to her.
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Post by Au$tin on Dec 27, 2011 16:22:20 GMT -5
"Just Dance" got her noticed.
"Poker Face" got her onto the radar.
"LoveGame" did nothing but give her another hit.
"Paparazzi" kept the list of hits coming.
"Bad Romance" solidified her as a star.
That being said, "Poker Face" is the answer here.
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Post by horchata on Dec 27, 2011 19:06:12 GMT -5
Poker Face was the song that made people raise their eyebrows and realize she was a tour de force in a sense, Just Dance didn't nearly have as much as an impact by any means.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Dec 27, 2011 19:33:31 GMT -5
Without thinking about it much, definitely "Poker Face". imo, she got her foot in the door with "Just Dance" and proved she was here to stay with "Poker Face" (and moreso "Bad Romance"). On first listen, though, PF didn't rub me the right way as I found the chorus melody very off-putting, but it grew on me over time and burned really slowly for me that year.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Dec 27, 2011 19:57:25 GMT -5
Poker Face was the song. As a previous poster said, you answered your own question in your original post!
Looking back, I can't believe she's the artist she is now; really incredible.
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Post by Black Jesus on Dec 27, 2011 21:09:45 GMT -5
I'm voting Just Dance because I still to this day don't understand the hype around Poker Face.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 21:58:56 GMT -5
Poker Face never gets old, I can still listen to it 10 times in a row and not get tired.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 27, 2011 23:39:32 GMT -5
You pretty much anwered your own question. Well but without Just Dance Poker Face may not have been as well known/loved. If you want to put it that way, you can say that a demo recording of a song we've never heard that may have led to her coming up with Just Dance was *the* most important song of her career. I think, of the two songs in the poll, Poker Face was the more important one. But one-upping that, I'd give it to Paparazzi. I feel like that was the song to further solidify her image and opened her up to bigger audiences, gave her attention surrounding her video and that awesome MTV performance of the song. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 0:19:26 GMT -5
"Poker-Face"
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Dec 28, 2011 7:31:13 GMT -5
Well but without Just Dance Poker Face may not have been as well known/loved. If you want to put it that way, you can say that a demo recording of a song we've never heard that may have led to her coming up with Just Dance was *the* most important song of her career. I think, of the two songs in the poll, Poker Face was the more important one. But one-upping that, I'd give it to Paparazzi. I feel like that was the song to further solidify her image and opened her up to bigger audiences, gave her attention surrounding her video and that awesome MTV performance of the song. I'd agree with Paparazzi actually; along with TEOG, it seems to be a song of hers that a larger audience respond to. It's just a great song with a brilliant metaphor. It was clearly the first video of hers that got a significant budget, the VMA performance was potentially her best. The period from that single through to TFM was her peak in popularity, I think. |
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Post by esoteric76 on Dec 28, 2011 10:53:37 GMT -5
Poker Face for the version that Leslie Knope sings on Parks & Rec!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 17:06:31 GMT -5
She was a virtual nobody even after "Just Dance" became a hit. She wasn't any more well known than Colby O'Donis. "Poker Face" made people pay attention to her as an artist. But the single that really launched her into absolute superstardom was "Bad Romance". This is spot on. |
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Dec 29, 2011 14:44:43 GMT -5
From 3:50. Gaga says Poker Face. SO IT'S POKER FACE.
PS: even though the interviewer is a bit of a fanboy/fail, the interview itself is brilliant.
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Post by xxfetchmonsterxx on Dec 29, 2011 19:05:06 GMT -5
^ LOL @ Gaga's skin in that video. She looks like a piece of beef jerky
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Dec 29, 2011 19:07:50 GMT -5
^ LOL @ Gaga's skin in that video. She looks like a piece of beef jerky It IS ridiculous, but it's post-V shoot - seriously - good interview, watch away. |
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Post by Lozzy on Jan 4, 2012 2:00:34 GMT -5
"Just Dance". While "Poker Face" proved that she wasn't a one-hit-wonder and made more people take notice of her, "Just Dance" took her from an absolute nobody to a girl with a worldwide #1 smash. Without "Poker Face", she wouldn't have become as big as soon, but "LoveGame" and "Paparazzi" would have still become big hits, and "Bad Romance" would still have brought her to international superstardom, like it did with the existence of "Poker Face". Without "Just Dance", either it would have taken her a lot longer to get noticed, or she'd be nothing more than artists like Natalia Kills and Björk currently are. (That may be a bad comparison, I know barely anything about those artists, but what I mean is that she'd have somewhat of a fanbase and possibly be somewhat successful outside of the U.S., but not have the huge radio/commercial success that she does have this way.) "Poker Face" may have been the song that proved she was here to stay, but that's mostly because it was the second single - if her first two singles had been released the other way around and "Poker Face" had somehow become huge, then "Just Dance" would have been the song that proved she was here to stay, simply because it would have been the second single, and that's what a (successful) second single does. I don't think it's fair to label "Poker Face" as the most important song for her career, as "Just Dance" was clearly necessary for "Poker Face" to succeed. She owes a lot of her career to "Just Dance", much more than she owes to "Poker Face". It's definitely "Just Dance".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2012 10:58:39 GMT -5
^I don't feel that way at all with the reverse release schedule.
If Poker Face had become a huge hit on its own, and then Just Dance came, then people would just see it as "Oh, she needs to toss on Akon and Colby O'Donis to get another hit. Generic, weak radio filler; next." Whereas her getting her first hit with that and then following it with Poker Face makes people go "Wow, she can do it all on her own too. It must have been her who was the driving success of her previous single and not the extras she had featured."
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Post by Lozzy on Jan 5, 2012 0:04:29 GMT -5
^I don't feel that way at all with the reverse release schedule. If Poker Face had become a huge hit on its own, and then Just Dance came, then people would just see it as "Oh, she needs to toss on Akon and Colby O'Donis to get another hit. Generic, weak radio filler; next." Whereas her getting her first hit with that and then following it with Poker Face makes people go "Wow, she can do it all on her own too. It must have been her who was the driving success of her previous single and not the extras she had featured." If she was tossing on a featured artist just to get a hit, why would she go with Colby O'Donis? |
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