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Post by jamesbond on Jul 9, 2013 19:54:24 GMT -5
This is probably one of the best county songs this year
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 10, 2013 11:04:26 GMT -5
Billboard thinks it's the best country song of all-time (officially in a few weeks), although it peaked on the airplay chart last year.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 10, 2013 13:34:26 GMT -5
Florida Georgia Line's "Cruise," featuring Nelly (6-5), which rules Hot Country Songs for a 19th week, switches places on the Hot 100 with Macklemore & Ryan Lewis' "Can't Hold Us," featuring Ray Dalton (5-6, after spending five weeks at No. 1; it tops Rap Songs for a 12th week).
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 17, 2013 14:51:32 GMT -5
Florida Georgia Line's "Cruise," featuring Nelly, slips 5-6 on the Hot 100, although it crosses the 5-million-sold barrier (5.1 million) with its latest frame (158,000, down 18%). The song rules Hot Country Songs for a monstrous 20th week, moving within one of tying the record for the longest stay at No. 1 since the chart premiered in its earliest form in 1944.
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 17, 2013 15:14:46 GMT -5
With the song officially peaked on overall airplay now, and sales slipping quite significantly, it will be interesting to see how long this can hold off all other country songs. Luke Bryan's current #1 is probably the prototypical peak for a country song without crossover airplay, which included a record AI for a country song. Luke is still quite far behind Cruise still so there is a ton of falling room before it is caught. Looking at some numbers (from Kworb's site which is Mediabase only):
Cruise 88.2m airplay Bryan 66.7m airplay Band Perry 63.1m airplay Hunter 56.4m airplay
Cruise 39% of the top song on itunes Bryan 14.4% of the top song on itunes Band Perry 6.7% of the top song on itunes Hunter 20.5% of the top song on itunes
There is streaming audio and Vevo/youtube in there somehow as well, but if those are a wash (and I assume Cruise leads here) FGL still has an enormous lead and Luke Bryan will probably fall at the same rate. The #1 record will fall and FGL will probably set the bar at 24 or 25 weeks. In a perfect world Billboard will not be able to stand having Nelly credited with the top country song of all time, but they are stubborn :(
It's actually a good question of which song eventually surpasses FGL at #1. Honestly they could pass themselves if another single is sent to Pop radio or if "Round Here" really starts picking up the pace. Maybe Hunter's latest starts selling like hotcakes could be the next #1, but I'm not sure how much growth is left there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 15:33:53 GMT -5
C'mon, "Cruise"!!! Let's get to 30 weeks!!! That'll show those Mediabase bafoons just how much better Billboard is!!!
But seriously, I would think Randy Houser or Hunter Hayes would have a shot at taking over the mongrel #1 next. Then again, "Cruise" will fall slowly...any song that sells 5 million will fall very slowly. On the 7/20 Hot 100, "Cruise" was #5 and the next closest country song was "Boys 'Round Here" at #22, but of course Blake is falling and has no chance. Hunter Hayes is at #26 and Luke is at #28 but Luke has hit his airplay peak and sales as well. Hunter still has some room to go but there's a HUGE points difference between #5 on the Hot 100 and #26. Darius Rucker is #32 but on the way down and Randy Houser is #34 with a big radio hit on his hands and the song has been selling well over 50k weekly...it'll easily be a Platinum hit and the biggest one of Houser's career by far, but he's still a long way behind "Cruise" in H100 points, and of course the mongrel chart IS the Hot 100, just with all the "non-country" songs removed from the listing.
So I guess my personal conclusion is that it's still too early to tell who will follow after FGL at the mongrel summit. It may be another 2 months yet before "Cruise" relinquishes its lead. Hayes and Houser might be too close to their airplay peaks to last long enough. Brett Eldredge is selling well on iTunes (but only because they're cheating the system for weeks-on-end with the price down to 69 cents), but the next country songs on iTunes are really Lee Brice, Tyler Farr, FGL's "Round Here", and Thomas Rhett also. It's too early to tell how big any of those songs will be at radio, and if the timing will line up correctly for one of them to be the follow-up mongrel #1 to "Cruise".
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 17, 2013 21:17:05 GMT -5
I'm still hoping it reaches a point that Billboard realizes how royally b0rked the mongrel chart is and says "forget it", like they did with the Pop 100.
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 18, 2013 9:51:17 GMT -5
The good news about Billboard perhaps reconsidering the idea is that this infection of charts isn't only infecting Country. The Rock chart has had only two songs stay at #1 since the chart switched over (Ho Hey - 16 weeks, Radioactive - 16 weeks) and Alternative has had only a handful (Madness - 19 weeks most of which are in the new chart, Radioactive - 13 weeks). Perhaps the idea of having these charts across the board will be looked at negatively because there is zero turnover whatsoever on all the new charts.
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Post by Zazie on Jul 18, 2013 10:13:57 GMT -5
I'm still rooting for a 40-week run for Cruise, but if I'm disappointed, I'll get over it. Anything less than 40 fails to appreciate the greatness of this song. But I'm used to my taste being ahead of the curve.
Seriously, there has to be somebody at Billboard who by now sees the ridiculousness of including non-country airplay in determining the MAIN COUNTRY CHART. Maybe everybody's been afraid to say it out loud. But now, one brave soul has to be getting ready to introduce this topic at a staff meeting. "We are about to anoint this song the greatest chart hit in US Country Music history. Before we do that, could we take 5 minutes to think about it? And is there anybody here who knows how to spell 'laughing stock'?"
I still see nothing wrong with this chart being published. It's a curiosity. It shows where country music fits in. Publish it every week, I don't mind. It's making it the MAIN COUNTRY CHART that is crazy. Go, Cruise!
And I'll go with Red as the song to succeed Cruise at #1.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 10:23:57 GMT -5
The new methodology for all the GENRE charts is ridiculous when they are using multi-genre calculations. I don't understand why they felt the need to create these charts...they are the exact same as the Hot 100. I mean, if this chart had never existed, "Cruise" would've still been the highest-ranking 'country' song on the H100 for a 20th week now, so why did they bother creating new charts for Country, Rock, etc. when the methodology is exactly the same as the Hot 100?
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 18, 2013 12:04:21 GMT -5
I would agree with Red being next #1, but the label decided to send another song to pop radio instead of Red. While still possible, Red won't get the pop airplay benefit that would automatically make it a #1 on the new chart. I'm not sure how much Red has sold already that could affect a #1 run, but instead I would say perhaps the song sent to pop (Everything Has Changed) could possibly be considered a country song and could top the mongrel chart with pop-only points. The reception on pop radio hasn't been positive though so I see it as a very low chance. I still think the next #1 is just a "normal" country song like Running Out of Moonlight.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 18, 2013 13:30:04 GMT -5
The good news about Billboard perhaps reconsidering the idea is that this infection of charts isn't only infecting Country. The Rock chart has had only two songs stay at #1 since the chart switched over (Ho Hey - 16 weeks, Radioactive - 16 weeks) and Alternative has had only a handful (Madness - 19 weeks most of which are in the new chart, Radioactive - 13 weeks). Perhaps the idea of having these charts across the board will be looked at negatively because there is zero turnover whatsoever on all the new charts. Alternative's airplay charts had such long weeks as well for both Madness and Radioactive. A new song by The Neighborhood has ruled that Billboard chart for like 6 weeks now (Imagine Dragons "Demons" is catching up). As for Billboard 'reconsidering' that won't stop Cruise from having an 'all-time' slot because of this and also, to the poster above, "Cruise" is not credited to Nelly on that 'mongrel' chart.
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 18, 2013 13:36:08 GMT -5
As for Billboard 'reconsidering' that won't stop Cruise from having an 'all-time' slot because of this and also, to the poster above, "Cruise" is not credited to Nelly on that 'mongrel' chart. The weird part about this is the write-ups given by countryhistorian weekly constantly reference Nelly, which I assume are taken from a Billboard article. It's easy to see that there isn't an official credit to Nelly on the slot on the Country chart, but it's definitely there on the Hot 100. From that standpoint it seems there is a distinction between the two entries, so it isn't very consistent if the same song is on both charts. The whole situation is frustrating.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 18, 2013 14:28:43 GMT -5
The weird part about this is the write-ups given by countryhistorian weekly constantly reference Nelly, which I assume are taken from a Billboard article. It's easy to see that there isn't an official credit to Nelly on the slot on the Country chart, but it's definitely there on the Hot 100. From that standpoint it seems there is a distinction between the two entries, so it isn't very consistent if the same song is on both charts. The whole situation is frustrating. Well, it's also #1 on "Country" because the label credits both the remix and original version in the Top 100 Digital Country chart sales there. But The Top 100 Digital singles chart separates 'em, which likely is why the Hot 100 says both.
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Post by kml567 on Jul 18, 2013 20:06:41 GMT -5
I'm 90% sure the next mongrel #1 is "Round Here". It leaps 13-8* this week. Songs #2-#7 will be free-falling in radio airplay by the time "Cruise" is done at #1 (sometime in early September), and "Round Here" coincidentally will be at its airplay peak in September.
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 19, 2013 10:44:44 GMT -5
Long live our new mongrel chart overlords, Florida Georgia Line.
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Post by George Strait Junkie on Jul 19, 2013 11:43:54 GMT -5
this is the worst song since truck yeah and to me those songs go down on the top of the worst songs in "country" music history what a joke this new chart is
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 19, 2013 13:28:32 GMT -5
I'm 90% sure the next mongrel #1 is "Round Here". It leaps 13-8* this week. Songs #2-#7 will be free-falling in radio airplay by the time "Cruise" is done at #1 (sometime in early September), and "Round Here" coincidentally will be at its airplay peak in September. Actually, Cruise has dropped dramatically in sales and it's peaked in the Billboard Pop/Top 40 radio airplay. While still rising on Hot AC that chart doesn't have enough reach to inspire it to say #1 for but maybe one or two more weeks.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 20, 2013 13:41:12 GMT -5
Just came back from lunch and I heard Cruise with Nelly followed by Journey's Open Arms on a CHR station. Talk about an eclectic mix!
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 20, 2013 21:47:01 GMT -5
I'm 90% sure the next mongrel #1 is "Round Here". It leaps 13-8* this week. Songs #2-#7 will be free-falling in radio airplay by the time "Cruise" is done at #1 (sometime in early September), and "Round Here" coincidentally will be at its airplay peak in September. Actually, Cruise has dropped dramatically in sales and it's peaked in the Billboard Pop/Top 40 radio airplay. While still rising on Hot AC that chart doesn't have enough reach to inspire it to say #1 for but maybe one or two more weeks. This is possible, but the gap back to the core country songs is still pretty big. Not to mention the hits it is still receiving on streaming audio/video and whatever else Billboard uses. Until we start seeing Cruise passed on the Country side charts we won't have to worry for a few weeks of it getting passed. The latest issue I have is July 20th and Cruise is #10 on airplay (Done was #22), #3 on digital songs (Boys Round Here was #12), #12 streaming songs (Boys Round Here was #48) and #6 on-demand songs (Wagon Wheel was #42). There are still huge gaps thanks to the pop influence, and FGL has the advantage of avoiding a single song from collecting a ton of points in all the categories. Yes, I agree they are decreasing at this point (and quite rapidly) but I think we are still several weeks away from having a new #1 on the mongrel chart.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 24, 2013 15:13:45 GMT -5
Florida Georgia Line's "Cruise" (featuring Nelly) retreats 6-7 on the Hot 100, although it tops Hot Country Songs for an incredible 21st week, tying the record for the longest stay at No. 1 since the chart launched in 1944. Check out all the details on the song's continued coronation here.
That means Billboard will consider Florida Georgia Line's stay at #1 to be equal to the long stays of Eddy Arnold, Hank Snow, and Webb Pierce.
Even more:
The song logs a 21st week at the summit, matching the mark for the longest command since the chart premiered, in its earliest form, in 1944
Florida Georgia Line matches the all-time record for the most weeks at No. 1 on Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart, as the duo's debut single "Cruise" notches a 21st cumulative week at the summit. With its latest week on top, the song enters a four-way tie for the longest chart-topping run in the chart's 69-year history.
The protracted No. 1 stay for "Cruise" stems, in part, from the Hot Country Songs chart's change in methodology last fall. It switched from ranking Nielsen BDS-based audience airplay impressions, gleaned from a core set of terrestrial country radio stations, to a hybrid survey. The new hybrid chart encompasses paid digital downloads, according to Nielsen SoundScan, streaming data and an expanded radio panel, according to BDS.
The chart's ranking methods -- along with, of course, the radically different song styles -- over the eras in which the four 21-week leaders have dominated is remarkable. Ranked solely by jukebox play at the time, the chart's first such 21-week No. 1 belonged to a handsome then-29-year-old crooner named Eddy Arnold, whose sentimental post-World War II ballad "I'll Hold You in My Heart (Till I Can Hold You in My Arms)" hugged the chart's summit for 21 weeks in 1947-48. Of a record 92 Hot Country Songs top 10s, 28 of which reached No. 1, "Heart" remains Arnold's longest-leading topper.
Arnold's feat was matched by 21-week command that began in the summer of 1950 by Canadian Hank Snow, whose breakthrough stateside hit "I'm Moving On" dominated the country Best Sellers chart. (By then, Billboard's country chart methodology incorporated a triad of tallies: Juke Box, Best Sellers and the radio-based Jockeys chart.)
Arnold and Snow were still major forces on those three charts when honky-tonk star Webb Pierce covered Jimmie Rodgers' 1928 novelty yodel "In the Jailhouse Now," which locked up the top spot on Juke Box for 21 weeks beginning in February 1955.
Having spent three weeks at No. 1 last December on the BDS-driven Country Airplay chart, "Cruise" was remixed featuring Nelly, renewing its sales and adding pop and adult crossover airplay, which has led to the song's record-tying Hot Country Songs reign. "Cruise" reached No. 7 on Mainstream Top 40 (and ranks at No. 12 in its 17th week on the list this week); bullets at No. 8 on Adult Top 40 after reaching No. 6 last week; and navigates 22-18 on Adult Contemporary.
"Cruise" has sold 5.1 million downloads to date, becoming the third-best-selling country digital track ever, according to SoundScan. Lady Antebellum leads with "Need You Now" (6.2 million), followed by Taylor Swift's "Love Story" (5.6 million). (Due, in part, to its availability before the addition of Nelly, the original version of "Cruise" accounts for 61% of the song's total sales.)
"Cruise" spent five nonconsecutive weeks at No. 1 on Hot Country Songs in December/January before slipping to as low as No. 13 in March. Following the release of the Nelly edit and its push to pop and adult radio formats, it's ranked at No. 1 for the last 16 weeks dating to April 20.
While "Cruise" maintains its chart-topping course on Hot Country Songs and looks to claim the longevity mark all to itself next week, check Billboard.com next Wednesday (July 31) for news when the chart is refreshed next week -- the duo has already charted two successful follow-up singles. "Get Your Shine On" rose to No. 5 (and spent two weeks atop Country Airplay in May) and current country hit "Round Here" bullets at No. 8 (and jumps 16-12 on Country Airplay) this week.
Upon the record-tying achievement of "Cruise" this week, here is an updated look at the titles to spend the most weeks atop Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart, dating to its Jan. 8, 1944, launch:
21 weeks "Cruise," Florida Georgia Line (2012-13) "In the Jailhouse Now," Webb Pierce (1955) "I'm Moving On," Hank Snow (1950-51) "I'll Hold You in My Heart (Till I Can Hold You in My Arms)," Eddy Arnold (1947-48)
20 weeks "Crazy Arms," Ray Price (1956) "I Don't Hurt Anymore," Hank Snow (1954-55)
19 weeks "Walk On By," Leroy Van Dyke (1961-62) "Bouquet of Roses," Eddy Arnold (1948-49)
17 weeks "Heartbreak Hotel," Elvis Presley (1956) "Slowly," Webb Pierce (1954) "Slipping Around," Jimmy Wakely & Margaret Whiting (1949-50)
16 weeks "Love's Gonna Live Here," Buck Owens (1963-64) "Lovesick Blues," Hank Williams (1949-50) "Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette)," Tex Williams (1947-48) "New Spanish Two Step," Bob Wills (1946-47) "Guitar Polka," Al Dexter (1946-47)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 15:37:10 GMT -5
Sad, sad, sad. Those are my only words. Sad.
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Post by Marv on Jul 24, 2013 17:56:58 GMT -5
NO CHR/Pop station on the planet would have played a thirty-one year old song such as 'Open Arms' under any circumstances. I can think of several formats where that song is a format staple, but top 40 definitely isn't among them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 22:05:46 GMT -5
Billboard has gotten so ridiculous. There is simply no way you can compare this new chart to anything, especially to chart data from half a century ago. And you can't even really compare it to 2012, when the methodology to calculate this new chart is completely different than a country radio, airplay-only based chart. That's why I just HATE that they are using the Hot Country Songs name for it, and applying all the history of that chart through last year to this new mongrel chart.
Saying the 21-week stay for "Cruise" is equal to those 3 songs that spent 21 weeks at the top all those years ago makes absolutely no sense. For me to take this new chart seriously, they could leave all the airplay history with the airplay chart, and this new chart's history would only date back to October 2012. And when "Cruise" inevitably breaks the record next week, they'll say it broke a record that was established way back in the 40's? Please...what a joke.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jul 24, 2013 22:22:44 GMT -5
Billboard has gotten so ridiculous. There is simply no way you can compare this new chart to anything, especially to chart data from half a century ago. And you can't even really compare it to 2012, when the methodology to calculate this new chart is completely different than a country radio, airplay-only based chart. That's why I just HATE that they are using the Hot Country Songs name for it, and applying all the history of that chart through last year to this new mongrel chart. Saying the 21-week stay for "Cruise" is equal to those 3 songs that spent 21 weeks at the top all those years ago makes absolutely no sense. For me to take this new chart seriously, they could leave all the airplay history with the airplay chart, and this new chart's history would only date back to October 2012. And when "Cruise" inevitably breaks the record next week, they'll say it broke a record that was established way back in the 40's? Please...what a joke. AMEN jhomes87, I am absolutely disgusted with Billboard right now, I LOVE THE SONG don't get me wrong but it is ridiculous to say that the song is still at the heart of Country and still topping the chart after 21 weeks, sorry Billboard but the song was done with Country way back in December after the holidays, only version that should be allowed onto the charts is the one with Nelly, the country version should not be included in the sales and etc. Bill Werde is one stupid Werde idiot!!!
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Post by joey2002 on Jul 24, 2013 22:45:06 GMT -5
For me to take this new chart seriously, they could leave all the airplay history with the airplay chart, and this new chart's history would only date back to October 2012. That makes too much sense though...
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Post by Marv on Jul 24, 2013 23:13:10 GMT -5
Even if they did that, would any of us bother paying attention to it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 23:29:11 GMT -5
Even if they did that, would any of us bother paying attention to it? I still wouldn't, but it would at least be a smidgen less ridiculous if they weren't measuring its 'records' against those from 50+ years ago, especially since back then the chart was compiled ENTIRELY via a different methodology.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 31, 2013 13:30:14 GMT -5
Excuse me while I jump off the Peace Bridge:
Florida Georgia Line's "Cruise" (featuring Nelly) rounds out the Hot 100's top 10 (7-10), while rewriting history on Hot Country Songs. It leads the latter list for a 22nd week, passing four other titles for the longest stay at No. 1 since the ranking launched in 1944. Check out all the details on the song's continued coronation here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 13:35:49 GMT -5
Absolutely disgusting, what more is there to say?
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