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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 8:02:24 GMT -5
Billboard Shakes Up Genre Charts With New Methodology October 11, 2012 | By Billboard Staff Billboard today unveils new methodology for the long-standing Hot Country Songs, Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Latin Songs charts. Each receive a major consumer-influenced face-lift, as digital download sales (tracked by Nielsen SoundScan) and streaming data (tracked by Nielsen BDS from such services as Spotify, Muve, Slacker, Rhapsody, Rdio and Xbox Music, among others) will now be factored into the 50-position rankings, along with existing radio airplay data monitored by Nielsen BDS. The makeovers will enable these charts to match the methodology applied to Billboard's signature all-genre songs ranking, the Billboard Hot 100. Concurrently, Hot Rock Songs, which launched as an airplay-only chart in 2009, and Rap Songs, in existence as a radio survey since 1989, will also include digital download sales and streaming data for the first time. The charts are now viewable on billboard.com and billboard.biz. In addition, Billboard is launching a new chart, R&B Songs, which will incorporate the same airplay/sales/streaming hybrid formula to rank the week's top R&B-only (non-rap) titles. R&B Songs and Rap Songs will serve as 25-position distillations of the overall Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, highlighting the differences between pure R&B and rap titles in the overall, wide-ranging R&B/hip-hop field. "The way people consume music continues to evolve and as a result so do our genre charts, which now track the many new ways fans experience, listen to and buy music," says Silvio Pietroluongo, Billboard Director of Charts. "We're proud to be offering updated genre charts that better reflect the current music landscape as well as a new R&B Songs chart that finally shines a spotlight solely on core R&B acts like Frank Ocean, John Legend and Anthony Hamilton." Billboard has been charting the popularity of R&B songs since 1942, with numerous changes in methodology implemented through the years. The most recent formula sports an almost-exclusive reliance on radio airplay. The Hot Country Songs chart similarly dates to 1944 and has also undergone multiple changes in its formula, with the most recent incarnation being one fueled solely by radio airplay since the advent of BDS data in 1990. Hot Latin Songs, meanwhile, has been based solely on radio airplay since its launch in 1986. In its new incarnation, only predominantly Spanish-language titles will appear on the chart. Titles mostly sung in English, which often receive Latin airplay and appear on the radio-based chart, are no longer eligible for inclusion. Dual-language songs (those recorded independently in both Spanish and English) will have only their Spanish-language airplay, sales and estimated streaming factored into their Hot Latin Songs rankings (see story, page 13). Radio charts for each of the aforementioned rankings will be spun off and live in Billboard's print and/or online properties, each keeping its history from its first date utilizing BDS data: Rap Airplay (1989), Country Airplay (1990), R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay (1992), Latin Airplay (1994) and Rock Airplay (2009). Digital Songs charts for each genre, which have been in existence since 2010, will continue to be represented as separate rankings as well. The move to the Hot 100-based formula will ensure that the top-ranked country, R&B/hip-hop, Latin and rock titles each week will be the top titles listed on each genre's songs ranking. This will be in line with how the Billboard 200 albums chart aligns with the albums charts for each corresponding genre. Because of the switch to new methodology, the week-to-week movements on the charts for some songs (in either direction) could be quite dramatic. Until now, only country stations contributed to the Hot Country Songs chart, or R&B/hip-hop stations to Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs; the same held true for Latin and rock. The new methodology, which will utilize the Hot 100's formula of incorporating airplay from more than 1,200 stations of all genres monitored by BDS, will reward crossover titles receiving airplay on a multitude of formats. With digital download sales and streaming data measuring popularity on the most inclusive scale possible, it is only just the radio portion of Billboard chart calculations that includes airplay from the entire spectrum of monitored formats. The immediate beneficiaries of this week's methodology change are Taylor Swift, Rihanna and Mumford & Sons. Swift holds down the top two slots on Hot Country Songs with "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and "Red." Her new country radio single "Begin Again" jumps 37-10. The pop-crossover No. 1 title ranks at No. 36 on Country Airplay (but also gets points associated with its pop-crossover play) and No. 1 on Country Digital Songs, while "Red" is absent from the Country Airplay list, but ranks No. 2 on Country Digital Songs. "Begin Again" appears at No. 29 on Country Airplay and No. 3 on Country Digital Songs. Rihanna shuffles from No. 66 under the former Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs methodology all the way to No. 1 with "Diamonds," buoyed by crossover pop airplay of the track as well as strong digital sales (No. 1 on R&B/Hip-Hop Digital Songs). "Diamonds" also tops the inaugural R&B Songs tally. On Rap Songs, PSY soars 20-1 with his current No. 2 Hot 100 hit "Gangnam Style." While fun. claims the No. 1 slot on Hot Rock Songs with its former Alternative No. 1 and current Hot 100 top 10 hit "Some Nights," Mumford & Sons' ride increased curiosity about their new album Babel to overwhelming streaming activity, placing all 12 songs from the set (as well as two others from the album's deluxe version) on the chart. On Hot Latin Songs, Wisin & Yandel move to No. 1 with "Algo Me Gusta de Ti," featuring Chris Brown and T-Pain, matching its Latin Airplay rank. The track is No. 3 on Latin Digital Songs. Read more at www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/record-labels/billboard-shakes-up-genre-charts-with-new-1007978302.story#jHolf6jy7ayFFUHC.99 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 8:07:28 GMT -5
Essentially each genre chart will now be compiled the same way as the Hot 100. The existing radio-only charts will be kept as well
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Post by jebsib on Oct 11, 2012 8:07:46 GMT -5
'Bout time. I sense bitching on the horizon.
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Post by Lozzy on Oct 11, 2012 8:08:13 GMT -5
Fucking ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 8:11:09 GMT -5
'Bout time. I sense bitching on the horizon. LOL |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 11, 2012 8:13:23 GMT -5
This looks a bit odd. "Diamonds" No. 1 on the R&B chart?
Why couldn't Billboard simply add digital and on-demand info to these charts, and only include airplay points from the format?
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 11, 2012 8:15:49 GMT -5
In a general sense, this makes sense. But sales seem to be weighted way too much. Why/how is Rihanna #1 on the R&B chart with a song that is #61 in R&B Airplay? And Taylor Swift is #1 on Country Songs with a song that flopped at country radio...and the country version of it isn't even available for download. Carrie's "Blown Away" is #1 in airplay and top 5 in sales, so it has the best combination of stats. But it's #3. It just makes no logical sense.
And why did they start this now, instead of waiting until the new chart year which starts in less than 2 months? How will they even be able to compile the year-end charts? Weird.
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Post by Lozzy on Oct 11, 2012 8:16:30 GMT -5
Why couldn't Billboard simply add digital and on-demand info to these charts, and only include airplay points from the format? How does that work, though? Non-R&B songs like "Diamonds" would still be quite high without having any R&B airplay. There's just no way they can incorporate sales and streaming without making a huge mess. |
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Post by badrobot on Oct 11, 2012 8:17:51 GMT -5
I think counting crossover play is a mistake. If you are a country listener, you are now looking at the #2 song being something you may never hear because country stations aren't playing it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 11, 2012 8:18:24 GMT -5
I just want to know the formula. The stats for genre airplay are fairly small, of course, but yet they are using sales figures from all genres (i.e. we can't measure how many R&B listeners downloaded the Rihanna song, so all downloads count). That skews the numbers way in favor of sales.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 11, 2012 8:19:33 GMT -5
"Diamonds" would still rank high, but perhaps not as high as it does with crossover play included.
I see what BB is trying to do with this change, but not sure I agree with it.
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Post by Jay D83 on Oct 11, 2012 8:20:34 GMT -5
Wow. I'm so mad I can barely type. I was with them when they were talking about giving titles sales points. Fine. I was with them with they were talking about adding streaming. Even better. They lost me when they said they would reward CROSSOVER acts and give them airplay points from OTHER formats?!?!?! That's f**ckin STUPID.
UGH! Off to shoot an email!
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 11, 2012 8:21:04 GMT -5
Wait. Crossover play is included, too? I missed that.
So, basically they are just taking the Hot 100 and breaking it down by genre?
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 11, 2012 8:22:27 GMT -5
Wow. I'm so mad I can barely type. I was with them when they were talking about giving titles sales points. Fine. I was with them with they were talking about adding streaming. Even better. They lost me when they said they would reward CROSSOVER acts and give them airplay points from OTHER formats?!?!?! That's f**ckin STUPID. UGH! Off to shoot an email! Right. Why should pop play count toward the country charts? That makes no logical sense. www.billboard.com/#/footer/contact-usI might be done with the Billboard charts. Sad day. |
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Post by Lozzy on Oct 11, 2012 8:22:46 GMT -5
Wait. Crossover play is included, too? I missed that. So, basically they are just taking the Hot 100 and breaking it down by genre? Yes, except their genre categorizations are shit. |
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Post by Rodze on Oct 11, 2012 8:23:56 GMT -5
It's essentially a chart name change.
They created a new chart and called it, for example, "Country Songs", to measure how popular a country song is in the entire country, and what was called "Country Songs" before, is now called "Country Airplay" -- how popular a country song is among the country radio stations.
It's funny they didn't do the same for Pop songs (which would imply restarting the Pop charts they killed a few years ago).
And, yeah, it's really annoying they change it in the middle of the year. There was no pressing reason (except to favor popular artists like Taylor and Rihanna)
It's also going to be sort of silly in the future when they compare Taylor Swift 50 no. 1 Country Songs to George Strait's 44 no. 1 hits on the same chart, even if they are completely different charts, but share the same name.
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 11, 2012 8:25:05 GMT -5
On Rap Songs, PSY soars 20-1 with his current No. 2 Hot 100 hit "Gangnam Style."
How...interesting.
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Post by mew2 on Oct 11, 2012 8:25:20 GMT -5
Why/how is Rihanna #1 on the R&B chart with a song that is #61 in R&B Airplay? Why/how is Rihanna #1 on the R&B chart with a song that is NOT R&B??? From now on will they count sales for every track that has charted on R&B Airplay and just add them??? That's ridiculous! With this rules Adele's Rolling In The Deep would've been #1 and now Diamonds is #1... It doesn't make ANY sense... And despite what Billboard says, I'm pretty sure Anthony Hamilton (or any other UAC artist for that matter) won't be happy about this...  |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 11, 2012 8:26:46 GMT -5
How do they even determine what is allowed to chart for each genre? Taylor's "Red" doesn't even have country airplay, so why is it charting on the country chart? Why can't Rihanna chart on country?
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Post by jebsib on Oct 11, 2012 8:26:47 GMT -5
So pure airplay charts will remain in place. It is simply the "Master Genre" Charts that will no longer cater to the r&b (urban) or country radio base demographics.
Whereas before the r&b chart was finely tuned to what Black Americans were listening to, now it represents the r&b songs that ALL Americans are listening to, regardless of who they are. Interesting.
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Post by Jay D83 on Oct 11, 2012 8:28:32 GMT -5
Why/how is Rihanna #1 on the R&B chart with a song that is #61 in R&B Airplay? Why/how is Rihanna #1 on the R&B chart with a song that is NOT R&B??? From now on will they count sales for every track that has charted on R&B Airplay and just add them??? That's ridiculous! With this rules Adele's Rolling In The Deep would've been #1 and now Diamonds is #1... It doesn't make ANY sense... And despite what Billboard says, I'm pretty sure Anthony Hamilton (or any other UAC artist for that matter) won't be happy about this... First, rap was pushing R&B to the wayside on that chart, now it's POP. Billboard boggles my mind. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 11, 2012 8:29:13 GMT -5
It doesn't make ANY sense... And despite what Billboard says, I'm pretty sure Anthony Hamilton (or any other UAC artist for that matter) won't be happy about this...  Correct. No R&B, country, etc. artist is going to be happy. The only people this rewards are mainstream acts who happen to get a little genre airplay. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 11, 2012 8:34:39 GMT -5
I have no issue with sales now being included. My issue is that it seems like the genre classifications are pretty random (the #1 R&B and Country songs are not R&B and country, respectively) and it is pushing traditionalists out of the picture chart-wise.
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Post by Jay D83 on Oct 11, 2012 8:34:42 GMT -5
It doesn't make ANY sense... And despite what Billboard says, I'm pretty sure Anthony Hamilton (or any other UAC artist for that matter) won't be happy about this... Correct. No R&B, country, etc. artist is going to be happy. The only people this rewards are mainstream acts who happen to get a little genre airplay. Right. I know Keyshia Cole and 'nem are not amused! |
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Post by Rican@ on Oct 11, 2012 8:45:46 GMT -5
PSY #1 on the Rap Chart. *face palms*
This mess just keeps getting un real. Ugh. Oh lord have mercy!
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Post by peterca on Oct 11, 2012 8:51:04 GMT -5
Wait. Crossover play is included, too? I missed that. So, basically they are just taking the Hot 100 and breaking it down by genre? Yes, except their genre categorizations are s**t. Exactly. Billboard should recognize only songs released to a specific genre to be on that genre's chart. Make the labels designate ONE genre that a song is released to. If it crosses over, without remixing, and receives a sufficient amount of airplay on another genre's stations, then the song may be on that genre's chart. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 8:52:18 GMT -5
This is another industry move that is going to further marginalize non-crossover acts in the industry. How do they determine that "Diamonds" is the most popular R&B song in the country? At least when sales used to be counted they were able to count sales from urban music retailers; now they're just arbitrarily deciding to categorize Rihanna as R&B and counting sales from anyone who's downloading her song regardless of listening demographics.
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Post by Jay D83 on Oct 11, 2012 8:55:39 GMT -5
This is another industry move that is going to further marginalize non-crossover acts in the industry. How do they determine that "Diamonds" is the most popular R&B song in the country? At least when sales used to be counted they were able to count sales from urban music retailers; now they're just arbitrarily deciding to categorize Rihanna as R&B and counting sales from anyone who's downloading her song regardless of listening demographics. They shouldn't give an act crossover points until the song reaches the top 30 on the Urban/Urban AC radio chart. |
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Post by youngstunna07 on Oct 11, 2012 8:57:55 GMT -5
This new rule is absolutely ridiculous! I just don't understand what was the point of them doing this; Billboard is clearly trying to clearly kill off True R&B and HipHop songs! How can Diamonds be #1 on the R&B/ Hip Hop Songs when its not getting any play on Urban Formats and its even listed as a POP song on Itunes! Shame on Billboard for playing the true R&B artist who are releasing REAL R&B SONGS to dust! I really hope they change this ridiculous rule back! >:(
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Oct 11, 2012 8:59:06 GMT -5
WTF
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