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Post by josh on Jun 13, 2013 11:38:29 GMT -5
Most recent threads: 06/22/2013, 06/15/2013, 06/08/2013, 06/01/2013, 05/25/20131. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 207.099 (- 0.362) 2. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Can’t Hold Us f/Ray Dalton: 171.858 (+ 1.124)3. PINK – Just Give Me A Reason: 150.074 (- 0.967) 4. RIHANNA – Stay f/Mikky Ekko: 125.246 (- 2.296) 5. ICONA POP – I Love It f/Charli XCX: 122.377 (- 0.133) 6. DAFT PUNK – Get Lucky: 97.860 (+ 2.551) 7. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 95.132 (+ 3.934) ▲ 8. SELENA GOMEZ – Come & Get It: 94.031 (+ 1.648) ▼9. BRUNO MARS – When I Was Your Man: 90.226 (- 1.665) ▼ 10. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Cruise f/Nelly: 85.176 (+ 0.721) 11. ARIANA GRANDE – The Way f/Mac Miller: 81.152 (+ 0.779) 12. BRUNO MARS – Treasure: 79.714 (+ 1.261) 13. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Radioactive: 74.680 (+ 2.034) ▲14. DEMI LOVATO – Heart Attack: 74.469 (- 3.278) ▼ 15. FALL OUT BOY – My Songs Know What You Did…: 72.285 (+ 0.491) 16. MAROON 5 – Daylight: 70.785 (- 0.574) 17. J. COLE – Power Trip f/Miguel: 70.692 (+ 0.483) 18. MARIAH CAREY – #Beautiful f/Miguel: 68.338 (- 0.397) 19. BLAKE SHELTON – Boys ‘Round Here: 66.099 (+ 0.237) 20. LUMINEERS – Ho Hey: 65.250 (+ 0.258) ▲ EMELI SANDE – Next To Me: 63.992 (- 1.067) JAKE OWEN – Anywhere With You: 61.128 (- 0.007) JASON DERULO – The Other Side: 60.871 (+ 0.650) LUKE BRYAN – Crash My Party: 59.763 (+ 0.627) BRAD PAISLEY – Beat This Summer: 58.665 (+ 0.458) THE BAND PERRY – Done: 56.820 (+ 0.589) ZEDD – Clarity f/Foxes: 55.817 (+ 1.283) MAROON 5 – Love Somebody: 50.750 (+ 1.592)PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Gone, Gone, Gone: 44.739 (+ 0.013) CARRIE UNDERWOOD – See You Again: 37.510 (+ 0.281) ANNA KENDRICK – Cups (Pitch Perfect’s When…: 37.415 (+ 1.002)CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 37.121 (+ 0.143) CIARA – Body Party: 36.696 (+ 0.323) MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Same Love f/Mary Lambert: 30.563 (+ 1.227)KELLY CLARKSON – People Like Us: 28.749 (- 0.205) CAPITAL CITIES – Safe And Sound: 27.653 (+ 0.237) ED SHEERAN – Lego House: 42.958 RIHANNA – Right Now f/David Guetta: 16.728 (+ 1.722)KE$HA – Crazy Kids: 14.274 (+ 0.156) MILEY CYRUS – We Can’t Stop: 9.185 (+ 0.202) AUSTIN MAHONE – What About Love: 8.335 (+ 1.274)PARAMORE – Still Into You: 4.576 ALICIA KEYS – Tears Always Win: 0.145
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Post by Rocky on Jun 13, 2013 14:42:02 GMT -5
7. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 95.132 (+3.934) ▲
Less than 4M increase? Loser! #flop :DD
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Post by RadioBeatz on Jun 13, 2013 17:03:00 GMT -5
"Radioactive" going strong! Yay!
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Post by chartfreak on Jun 13, 2013 18:24:41 GMT -5
Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, is Avril's latest not on the Hot 100 anymore? I see that it's in the top 10 at Itunes due to a sale, so is it possible for it to move back into the top 20 if sales are strong enough?
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Post by josh on Jun 13, 2013 18:30:18 GMT -5
Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, is Avril's latest not on the Hot 100 anymore? I see that it's in the top 10 at Itunes due to a sale, so is it possible for it to move back into the top 20 if sales are strong enough? She's #34.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 18:31:48 GMT -5
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Post by josh on Jun 13, 2013 18:34:44 GMT -5
reported to mod like 100000 hours ago should merge hopefully before the end of the week :'(
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Post by #Joseph.T on Jun 14, 2013 0:58:54 GMT -5
I predict that the Radioactive will stay on chart for 55 weeks or more ?
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Post by Daniel Collins on Jun 14, 2013 6:24:56 GMT -5
I predict that the Radioactive will stay on chart for 55 weeks or more ? 77
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Post by jasontoralba on Jun 14, 2013 8:13:52 GMT -5
Question: When did Billboard created the 20-week-&-below-#50 recurrent rule and what's the reason for it?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 14, 2013 8:24:18 GMT -5
^I believe the rule started when Billboard started using BDS/SoundScan for the Hot 100. As for the reason, it's to give new tracks (albums usually spawn multiple singles) room to shine in the upper half of the chart. :)
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Post by Rocky on Jun 14, 2013 8:26:05 GMT -5
I think the reason was to get rid of those slow peaking and slow falling hits more quickly. Imagine 10+ hit songs from last year still charting and being in the way of current songs. I think "Gangnam Style" would still be in the #70s
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 14, 2013 8:28:19 GMT -5
^Yes- singles had longer chart stays with the new methodology, so it made sense to cut log-running singles off after the top 50.
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Post by jasontoralba on Jun 14, 2013 8:36:34 GMT -5
Well, thanks for the answers. I thought it was just a new rule that's created after I'm Yours. Lol.
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Post by #Joseph.T on Jun 14, 2013 8:38:07 GMT -5
Question: When did Billboard created the 20-week-&-below-#50 recurrent rule and what's the reason for it? Billboard, in an effort to allow the chart to remain as current as possible and to give proper representation to new and developing artists and tracks, has (since 1991) removed titles that have reached certain criteria regarding its current rank and number of weeks on the chart. Recurrent criteria have been modified several times and currently (as of 2010), a song is permanently moved to "recurrent status" if it has spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100 and fallen below position number 50. Exceptions are made to re-releases and sudden resurgence in popularity of tracks that have taken a very long time to gain mainstream success. These rare cases are handled on a case-by-case basis and ultimately determined by Billboard's chart managers and staff. The most notable exception to the recurrent entry policy applies to holiday-themed releases, which are commonly reissued year after year in anticipation of Christmas purchasing. After its initial chart run, a holiday entry cannot re-enter the Hot 100 in subsequent years.
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Post by renfield75 on Jun 14, 2013 8:45:00 GMT -5
^I believe the rule started when Billboard started using BDS/SoundScan for the Hot 100. As for the reason, it's to give new tracks (albums usually spawn multiple singles) room to shine in the upper half of the chart. :) Yes, the recurrent rule began on November 30, 1991. But initially, it was for any song that had spent 20 or more weeks on the chart and fell below the top 20! This extreme rule only lasted a few weeks, a notable victim being Salt-N-Pepa's "Let's Talk About Sex". Realizing it was too harsh, Billboard changed the cutoff position to number 40, and by the summer of 1992 it was changed to the top 50, where it has remained ever since. And joesph, the recurrent rule prohibiting the return of holiday songs was dropped this past year, which is why "All I Want For Christmas Is You" finally made the top 40 (after 18 years!).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 8:53:39 GMT -5
More specifically it is not the upper half of the chart where new tracks will get exposure since tracks can in effect stay in the top 50 forever. It is the bottom half of the chart where room is created.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 9:21:36 GMT -5
To me the Hot 100 under these weird recurrent rules is really the Hot 50. Similar reasoning affected the album chart for 18 years
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 14, 2013 9:43:23 GMT -5
Question: When did Billboard created the 20-week-&-below-#50 recurrent rule and what's the reason for it? Billboard, in an effort to allow the chart to remain as current as possible and to give proper representation to new and developing artists and tracks, has (since 1991) removed titles that have reached certain criteria regarding its current rank and number of weeks on the chart. Recurrent criteria have been modified several times and currently (as of 2010), a song is permanently moved to "recurrent status" if it has spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100 and fallen below position number 50. Exceptions are made to re-releases and sudden resurgence in popularity of tracks that have taken a very long time to gain mainstream success. These rare cases are handled on a case-by-case basis and ultimately determined by Billboard's chart managers and staff. The most notable exception to the recurrent entry policy applies to holiday-themed releases, which are commonly reissued year after year in anticipation of Christmas purchasing. After its initial chart run, a holiday entry cannot re-enter the Hot 100 in subsequent years. Actually, as of February 2012, any song is allowed to chart in the top 50 regardless. This includes holiday releases. After Whitney's death, for example, they allowed her songs to re-enter the top 50 due to high digital sales and upticks in airplay numbers. Why they didn't decide to implement this rule in back when Michael Jackson passed is beyond me, but whatever. Also, last Christmas season, Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas Is You" re-entered the top 50 and peaked in the upper 20s. It was the only holiday song to re-enter, though. Now I think if it's a song that just so happens to move slightly back up into the top 50 after falling out, it won't re-enter. For example, if some huge hit that lasted for 54 weeks finally slipped out of the top 50 and went recurrent were to gain slightly and technically move from, say, 51 to 49, it won't chart becuase it's likely to fall out of the top 50 again next week. I wish recurrent rules didn't exist. I know why they're there and I see the reasoning, but I would prefer a chart without them.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 14, 2013 10:13:57 GMT -5
Yes, 2m- that's what I meant. As we all know, the brain goofs on us at times. :)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 10:23:35 GMT -5
Billboard, in an effort to allow the chart to remain as current as possible and to give proper representation to new and developing artists and tracks, has (since 1991) removed titles that have reached certain criteria regarding its current rank and number of weeks on the chart. Recurrent criteria have been modified several times and currently (as of 2010), a song is permanently moved to "recurrent status" if it has spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100 and fallen below position number 50. Exceptions are made to re-releases and sudden resurgence in popularity of tracks that have taken a very long time to gain mainstream success. These rare cases are handled on a case-by-case basis and ultimately determined by Billboard's chart managers and staff. The most notable exception to the recurrent entry policy applies to holiday-themed releases, which are commonly reissued year after year in anticipation of Christmas purchasing. After its initial chart run, a holiday entry cannot re-enter the Hot 100 in subsequent years. Actually, as of February 2012, any song is allowed to chart in the top 50 regardless. This includes holiday releases. After Whitney's death, for example, they allowed her songs to re-enter the top 50 due to high digital sales and upticks in airplay numbers. Why they didn't decide to implement this rule in back when Michael Jackson passed is beyond me, but whatever. Also, last Christmas season, Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas Is You" re-entered the top 50 and peaked in the upper 20s. It was the only holiday song to re-enter, though. Now I think if it's a song that just so happens to move slightly back up into the top 50 after falling out, it won't re-enter. For example, if some huge hit that lasted for 54 weeks finally slipped out of the top 50 and went recurrent were to gain slightly and technically move from, say, 51 to 49, it won't chart becuase it's likely to fall out of the top 50 again next week. I wish recurrent rules didn't exist. I know why they're there and I see the reasoning, but I would prefer a chart without them. Recurrent rules appear to apply if you have a song exceeding 20 weeks that bounces in and out of the top 50 for a few weeks. The single would need to be in 'growth mode' still at some format to be allowed to do that. Otherwsie a chart move from 49-51-50 is still really a gradual decline
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Post by Duca on Jun 14, 2013 14:00:02 GMT -5
1. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 206.526 (-0.573) 2. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Can’t Hold Us f/Ray Dalton: 172.487 (+0.629) 3. PINK – Just Give Me A Reason: 148.981 (-1.093) 4. RIHANNA – Stay f/Mikky Ekko: 123.712 (-1.534) 5. ICONA POP – I Love It f/Charli XCX: 122.022 (-0.355) 6. DAFT PUNK – Get Lucky: 100.409 (+2.549) 7. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 99.203 (+4.071) 8. SELENA GOMEZ – Come & Get It: 95.334 (+1.303) 9. BRUNO MARS – When I Was Your Man: 88.945 (-1.281) 10. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Cruise f/Nelly: 85.334 (+0.158) 11. ARIANA GRANDE – The Way f/Mac Miller: 81.856 (+0.704) 12. BRUNO MARS – Treasure: 80.726 (+1.012) 13. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Radioactive: 76.665 (+1.985) 14. FALL OUT BOY – My Songs Know What You Did…: 72.736 (+0.451) ▲ 15. J. COLE – Power Trip f/Miguel: 71.333 (+0.641) ▲ 16. DEMI LOVATO – Heart Attack: 70.534 (-3.935) ▼ 17. MAROON 5 – Daylight: 70.011 (-0.774) ▼ 18. MARIAH CAREY – #Beautiful f/Miguel: 68.041 (-0.297) 19. BLAKE SHELTON – Boys ‘Round Here: 66.597 (+0.498) 20. LUMINEERS – Ho Hey: 65.753 (+0.503)
EMELI SANDE – Next To Me: 62.643 (-1.349) JASON DERULO – The Other Side: 61.917 (+1.046) JAKE OWEN – Anywhere With You: 61.640 (+0.512) LUKE BRYAN – Crash My Party: 60.191 (+0.428) BRAD PAISLEY – Beat This Summer: 59.175 (+0.510) THE BAND PERRY – Done: 57.107 (+0.287) ZEDD – Clarity f/Foxes: 56.623 (+0.806) MAROON 5 – Love Somebody: 52.109 (+1.359) PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Gone, Gone, Gone: 44.962 (+0.223) CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 39.446 (+2.325) ANNA KENDRICK – Cups (Pitch Perfect’s When…: 38.779 (+1.364) CARRIE UNDERWOOD – See You Again: 37.644 (+0.134) CIARA – Body Party: 36.884 (+0.188) MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Same Love f/Mary Lambert: 31.612 (+1.049) KELLY CLARKSON – People Like Us: 28.993 (+0.244) CAPITAL CITIES – Safe And Sound: 28.550 (+0.897) RIHANNA – Right Now f/David Guetta: 17.738 (+1.010) KE$HA – Crazy Kids: 14.575 (+0.301) AUSTIN MAHONE – What About Love: 9.587 (+1.252) MILEY CYRUS – We Can’t Stop: 9.534 (+0.349)
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Post by Rocky on Jun 14, 2013 14:14:27 GMT -5
CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 39.446 (+2.325)
What? Wut? I can't believe that. Receipts!! :O (If it's true, then I'm insanely happy)
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Post by josh on Jun 14, 2013 14:17:22 GMT -5
CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 39.446 (+2.325) What? Wut? I can't believe that. Receipts!! :O (If it's true, then I'm insanely happy) It doesn't look correct. Even including all stations on pop and rhythmic the audience total is nowhere near that.
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HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 14, 2013 14:32:37 GMT -5
The total from pop and rhythmic, published panel, is 35.124m for "I Need Your Love." The Quick-Cut total would be higher, but...
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Post by josh on Jun 14, 2013 14:37:08 GMT -5
The total of pop and rhythmic, including non-panel stations (info seen here) totals 39.403. A little airplay from HAC makes sense for the last of it. However, the daily gain from pop and rhythmic, all stations, is only +1.128, not even half of the supposed update...
The problem is yesterday's numbers: CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 37.121 (+ 0.143) The total from pop and rhythmic yesterday was 38.275 with a daily gain of 1.198 So today's number is likely the correct number, and the extra gain is just due to error yesterday.
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Post by pnobelysk on Jun 14, 2013 15:38:28 GMT -5
Billboard, in an effort to allow the chart to remain as current as possible and to give proper representation to new and developing artists and tracks, has (since 1991) removed titles that have reached certain criteria regarding its current rank and number of weeks on the chart. Recurrent criteria have been modified several times and currently (as of 2010), a song is permanently moved to "recurrent status" if it has spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100 and fallen below position number 50. Exceptions are made to re-releases and sudden resurgence in popularity of tracks that have taken a very long time to gain mainstream success. These rare cases are handled on a case-by-case basis and ultimately determined by Billboard's chart managers and staff. The most notable exception to the recurrent entry policy applies to holiday-themed releases, which are commonly reissued year after year in anticipation of Christmas purchasing. After its initial chart run, a holiday entry cannot re-enter the Hot 100 in subsequent years. Actually, as of February 2012, any song is allowed to chart in the top 50 regardless. This includes holiday releases. After Whitney's death, for example, they allowed her songs to re-enter the top 50 due to high digital sales and upticks in airplay numbers. Why they didn't decide to implement this rule in back when Michael Jackson passed is beyond me, but whatever. Also, last Christmas season, Mariah Carey's "All I Want for Christmas Is You" re-entered the top 50 and peaked in the upper 20s. It was the only holiday song to re-enter, though. Now I think if it's a song that just so happens to move slightly back up into the top 50 after falling out, it won't re-enter. For example, if some huge hit that lasted for 54 weeks finally slipped out of the top 50 and went recurrent were to gain slightly and technically move from, say, 51 to 49, it won't chart becuase it's likely to fall out of the top 50 again next week. I wish recurrent rules didn't exist. I know why they're there and I see the reasoning, but I would prefer a chart without them. All I want actually peaked at 21 . It might get top 20 this year if it gets strong streaming
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Post by renfield75 on Jun 14, 2013 15:57:00 GMT -5
^ #21 is the upper 20s, as said, looking at a countdown as an inverse numbering system.
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Post by Daniel Collins on Jun 15, 2013 5:33:14 GMT -5
To me the Hot 100 under these weird recurrent rules is really the Hot 50. Similar reasoning affected the album chart for 18 years It really looked weird . How long can "I'm Yours" stay without the recurrent ?
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