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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2005 21:15:14 GMT -5
About Kenny: The real question remains is how long will he hold onto the top spot on both charts?
I think he'll fall from # 1 on the Billboard 200 chart pretty fast.
The Country Albums chart is another matter.
Big & Rich's new album comes out the week right after Kenny's cd (November 15).
So, Big & Rich could take over the # 1 spot on the Country Albums chart right a week or two after Kenny's comes out.
Gretchen, on the other hand, might actually have a long run at # 1 on the Country Albums chart until Kenny and Big & Rich release their cds in November.
I personally am not looking forward to any of those albums, but that looks to be the most likely chart scenario.
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Post by bigbluenote on Aug 28, 2005 21:30:44 GMT -5
Would there be any chance of Sara debuting at #1 on the country charts? I sure hope so. It's......what, 2 weeks after Gretchen's. So she should take Gretchen outta #1, right?
Shoot, I just checked and Sara's album comes out the week after Gretchen's. So I am now guessing that Sara has no chance of dubuting at #1. How depressing.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 28, 2005 21:57:16 GMT -5
Since Martima's album comes out a 3 weeks after Gretchen I think she will replace her on the country charts.
If Gretchen lands at #1 on the Billboard Top 200, she won't be there long not with other non country albums coming out.
Kenny will get one week at #1 on the country chart, I have no doubt the next week Big and Rich will land at #1.
Also Kenny is not going to get mutiples weeks at #1 on Billboard Top 200, he never has and there is too many BIG name albums coming out in November in other genres. If 50 Cent releases his the same week as Kenny's than Kenny WILL NOT even debut #1 on Billboard Top 200. Remember 50 Cent is a guy that sold over a million the first week of his last album and has sold almost 5 million in less than a year.
In fact right now 50 Cent has the best selling album of the year so far.
I don't think Sara will debut #1 on the country charts unless Gretchen does less than is expected.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 28, 2005 22:01:18 GMT -5
Yes Kenny's people are good at picking dates with less competition. The have done it on his last 3 albums.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2005 22:04:50 GMT -5
Faith, Kenny and others have done the no-competition thing as well.
Even some Pop/Rock artists do that too.
It's done to build up hype for an artist and be able to scream out in press releases "Look at what [insert artist name] sold. He/she is # 1."
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Post by Marv on Aug 28, 2005 22:06:36 GMT -5
Kayne West will undoubtedly keep B&D from debuting at #1, and Chesney will undoubtedly have a shot to debut at #1.
The remark about Chesney 'playing it safe' as it relates to the release of his next CD doesn't make any sense; a CD can debut at #1 in any quarter of the year. Given the dreadful state of the retail music biz these days (again, with the notable exception of country music), any CD by any country megastar has a shot at debuting at #1, regardless of the month of it's release.
It was well known quite awhile ago that Tim McGraw would NOT be releasing a new CD this fall, unless it was a live one, so having a new CD from him in February or March is certainly great news for retail and the country format as well.
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Post by countrymusicfan6 on Sept 16, 2005 17:37:48 GMT -5
This song is at #7 on mediabase today with only a 52 spin jump. I know this number will increase as the release date gets closer but i think its safe to say this single hasn't lived up to its expectations. Is this a sign of things to come for Gretchen?
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 16, 2005 17:45:25 GMT -5
This song is at #7 on mediabase today with only a 52 spin jump. I know this number will increase as the release date gets closer but i think its safe to say this single hasn't lived up to its expectations. Is this a sign of things to come for Gretchen? I don't think so at all.
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Post by Jim King on Sept 16, 2005 18:00:02 GMT -5
This song is at #7 on mediabase today with only a 52 spin jump. I know this number will increase as the release date gets closer but i think its safe to say this single hasn't lived up to its expectations. Is this a sign of things to come for Gretchen? Many country radio program directors jumped on this single right away due to its redneck appeal and Gretchen's track record this year. What some here forget is that most country radio programmers are very conservative and won't jump on anything until it becomes a chart recurrent. Gretchen will now begin to pick up these programmers and ride them straight to number one while the detractors here will say she is slowing down at every step. ~ Jim
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Post by Jonsolo on Sept 16, 2005 19:08:43 GMT -5
I think you can express some serious doubts toward the song's #1 chances without being called a "detractor", by simply objectively looking at the competition out there right now.
Urban has flown on by Gretchen, and looks to take #1 after Sara/M Gentry/Craig are done, possibly by the 10/22 or 10/29 Billboard chart week. Gretchen would then have to wait until at least mid-November before she'd possibly have an opening, and by that time, Chesney's new one could very well be charging up the top ten.
No matter if you like or hate the song, it definitely has slowed down the last four weeks, and is starting to remind me of Stays In Mexico's chart run. I'm sure the label won't settle for anything less than a top 5 showing, so they'll continue to push it for a good while longer.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 16, 2005 19:11:18 GMT -5
Hmmmmm....I seem to recall songs getting passed and then passing back the ones that passed them. Am I the only one???? Not saying that's going to happen, BUT it's POSSIBLE.
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Post by Marv on Sept 16, 2005 22:52:57 GMT -5
the REAL bad news for Gretchen is that 'Sombedoy's Hero' has passed her in BB, which is really something, cosnidering it's been on the charts for almost FIVE full months, and is still moving upward.
As I stated in the same week that both 'AJU' and 'Better Life' debuted simultaneously at R&R, there was ZERO doubt in my mind that Keith Urban would go to #1 and spend SEVERAL weeks there.
Ms. Wilson's single's splashy debut was almost a dead-ringer for the similar manner in which Shania Twain's 'Love Gets Me Every Time' blew onto the charts in 1997.
Ms. Twain managed one week @ #1 in R&R and five weeks on top @ BB, where it would have been #1 for the year if it had been released two months earlier.
'Stays In Mexico' had a very wobbly rise up the charts, and the fact that it barely managed a 'Pick' vote (52%-48%) during the 'Pick It Or Flick It' segment of 'After Midnite With Blair Garner' turned out to be a very accuarte indicator that the song wasn't going to be one of his biggest hits, as evidenced by the fact that it lost it's bullet after only thirteen weeks on the R&R chart.
Ms. Wilson's single is definitely on a respirator; assuming that 'Better Life' spends anywhere from 4-8 weeks at #1, I'd expect another single from her before Thanksgiving.
Having new singles from George Strait. Rascal Flatts, Kenny Chesney, Tim McGraw, Faith Hill & Toby Keith released within a handful of weeks of each other should (I hope) prove to be a GREAT boost for the format during the final quarter of the year.
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Post by Jim King on Sept 17, 2005 8:58:20 GMT -5
Ms. Wilson's single is definitely on a respirator; We'll see. Your Shania Twain analysis proves my point. I'm not looking for this bar anthem to be single of the year, but I fully expect it to spend at least a week at number one, maybe more. At 7 weeks on the chart compared to about 18 weeks for those songs above it, there are many programmers who have not even thought about adding it yet, probably some who haven't even heard it. I am a bit worried about Keith Urban blocking her, but as much as I love Keith Urban, this single sounds very derivative to me, and that may weaken it. Not sure. Jamie O'Neal is a threat with a good song, but once it gets to top five, if it does, it will have more trouble getting adds and additional spins after so long on the charts. I don't see the topic relevance of any of the other songs you mentioned. Even if it has to wait for Keith and Jamie to have their day, I believe that it will prevail before Thanksgiving. ~ Jim
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Post by Marv on Sept 18, 2005 22:39:45 GMT -5
'All Jacked Up' was on 111 of R&Rs 120 reporters in it's DEBUT week on the R&R charts, so there's no hope of the song getting a boost by being added by any stations out there, unless you want to count the VERY small stations out there among Mediabase's 2,150+ stations.
105 of those stations added the song in the issue in which the song debuted.
Since Keith Urban blew by her this week with ease, and Ms. O'Neal gained another 400 spins, she's not going to #1 under any circumstances.
The only question remaining is how soon will 'Better Life' get to number one, and how long will it stay there.
My best guesses would be within three weeks, and at least a month at #1, which will take us into early November, just before the R&R/Mediabase chart year ends at midnight (EST) on November 26th.
My earlier remarks regarding that old saying about 'the tortoise vs. the hare' have been borne out after all.
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Post by drock89 on Sept 22, 2005 14:53:00 GMT -5
-- Gretchen Wilson performs on Saturday night's Grand Ole Opry. Her performance will also carried on the TV portion of the broadcast, "Opry Live," on GAC.
Gretchen's Opry appearance is part of the buildup to the release of her new album, All Jacked Up, landing in stores on Tuesday (9/27).
And lookit -- there are three ways to buy.
"Buy it at Target, and you'll get an extra track. Buy it at Wal-Mart, and you'll get an extra CD with five songs, three of them live," Gretchen told Wednesday's Richmond Times Dispatch.
Adding; "Then, there's a dual-disc version with a 30-minute documentary that looks at the recording of the album, behind the scenes."
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Post by Jim King on Sept 22, 2005 21:24:46 GMT -5
Since Keith Urban blew by her this week with ease, and Ms. O'Neal gained another 400 spins, she's not going to #1 under any circumstances. My earlier remarks regarding that old saying about 'the tortoise vs. the hare' have been borne out after all. I love the way you make definitive statements about something that hasn't happened yet and whose actual outcome is far from certain. I'm convinced that Gretchen's CD release and the appearances and publicity associated with it (given her track record) will juice the radio spins and surprise a lot of people. I don't pretend to know the motivation behind your proclamations, but I sense a certain amount of disdain and dismissal of Gretchen because "All Jacked Up" might not be your kind of music, and that a redneck bar song is somehow beneath your dignity and not worthy of intellectual discussion, much less the top spot on the singles chart. This is not rocket science. We're talking Bubbas in pickup trucks here. We are not measuring the musical tastes of a few elitists on a country music board. ~ Jim
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Post by Marv on Sept 23, 2005 0:37:49 GMT -5
'Full Time Job' is the best song I've heard from her so far, and the duet with Merle Haggard 'Policitcally Uncorrect' is also a very strong song as well.
Her label has to be very happy with the chart performance of 'AJU' up to this point.
But the shorter than usual period of time between the day the single hit radio and the release of this CD could have an impact on her first week CD sales.
'Here For The Party' sold 227,000 copies in it's first week; we'll see how this one does.
She IS a breath of frsh air for the format; that's for sure.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 23, 2005 1:29:35 GMT -5
My favorite so far is Raining On Me.
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Post by Marv on Sept 24, 2005 22:39:51 GMT -5
She's lost her bullet in the newest issue of BB, and drifts upward from #9 to #8.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 25, 2005 9:28:16 GMT -5
Ya know alot of people on here keep talking about how All Jacked up is Redneck Wman Part 2. Which I have real problem with considering Kieth Urbans Last 5 singles with the exception of "Memories" sounds EXACTLY the same.Hell Im just content to hear a country song that isnt soaked in syrup for a change, or about fluffy clouds and sunshine!Give it a rest people.
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Post by Jim King on Sept 25, 2005 10:20:44 GMT -5
I have real problem with considering Kieth Urbans Last 5 singles with the exception of "Memories" sounds EXACTLY the same. "C'mon, baby, ah ooh ooh, aww aww, whooo" ~ Jim
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 25, 2005 10:34:02 GMT -5
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Post by dcowboy77 on Oct 3, 2005 16:44:09 GMT -5
Does anyone now have her new cd 1st week sales total ?
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Post by Rebel Soul on Oct 3, 2005 17:05:46 GMT -5
has anyone else got the version of this cd with the Kid Rock duet "The Other Side of Me". I love that song
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Post by Lee on Oct 3, 2005 18:37:01 GMT -5
Not too bad. I thought that on AI, she actually got worse more wks than she did better and I didn't really think she should have won, but doesn't sound too bad to me. Don't see it being Top 10 though, but who knows? huh?
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Post by bigbluenote on Oct 3, 2005 18:38:47 GMT -5
LOL. I was wondering the same thing.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Oct 3, 2005 18:38:58 GMT -5
Wrong thread....OOPS!!! LOL
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Post by northerncountry on Oct 5, 2005 14:55:00 GMT -5
Looks like Epic has pulled the plug on "All Jacked Up". Read at the BB site that Gretchen's new album sold 264,000 units this week to be #1 on both the Billboard 200 and Top Country Albums.
At the same time, Epic has serviced a 2nd track from the album which should impact radio next week. They're going with "I Don't Feel Like Loving You Today". Maybe it can mirror Toby's performance, after his first single from Honky Tonk U only managed to get to #8, he came back with a 5-week #1.
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Post by Jonsolo on Oct 5, 2005 15:29:08 GMT -5
Since Keith Urban blew by her this week with ease, and Ms. O'Neal gained another 400 spins, she's not going to #1 under any circumstances. My earlier remarks regarding that old saying about 'the tortoise vs. the hare' have been borne out after all. I love the way you make definitive statements about something that hasn't happened yet and whose actual outcome is far from certain. I'm convinced that Gretchen's CD release and the appearances and publicity associated with it (given her track record) will juice the radio spins and surprise a lot of people. I don't pretend to know the motivation behind your proclamations, but I sense a certain amount of disdain and dismissal of Gretchen because "All Jacked Up" might not be your kind of music, and that a redneck bar song is somehow beneath your dignity and not worthy of intellectual discussion, much less the top spot on the singles chart. This is not rocket science. We're talking Bubbas in pickup trucks here. We are not measuring the musical tastes of a few elitists on a country music board. ~ Jim Or maybe, just maybe, those of us that were expressing doubt with AJU's #1 chances a few weeks back actually know what we're talking about.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Oct 6, 2005 13:48:12 GMT -5
This song is at #7 on mediabase today with only a 52 spin jump. I know this number will increase as the release date gets closer but i think its safe to say this single hasn't lived up to its expectations. Is this a sign of things to come for Gretchen? Many country radio program directors jumped on this single right away due to its redneck appeal and Gretchen's track record this year. What some here forget is that most country radio programmers are very conservative and won't jump on anything until it becomes a chart recurrent. Gretchen will now begin to pick up these programmers and ride them straight to number one while the detractors here will say she is slowing down at every step. ~ Jim -276 spins...looks like the lock #1 is in jeopardy...guess i wont be asking for your nfl picks this weekend...lol !!!
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