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Post by sabre14 on May 30, 2015 13:50:47 GMT -5
Yeah, she blew by Easton and Carrie today, while continuing to hold Blake at bay to land at #5. Can't say I saw that coming. I don't want to jinx it but I don't see how this misses #1 at this point. My point projections for MB actually have Kelsea, Carrie and Easton pretty close right now as Easton's had a pretty good week himself, plus Kelsea was pretty far behind Carrie and Easton in spins this past Sunday. "Love Me Like You Mean It" has gained 663 spins and 3.8 million in audience this week, while "Baby Be My Love Song" gained 423 spins and 3.4 audience and "Little Toy Guns" gained 190 spins and 1.2 million in audience this week (a bad one day update in there which was the effect of a stellar one day update the week before, so I wouldn't go all doom and gloom about Carrie's numbers), with one day left in MB's chart week. At this point though I think that Kelsea will end up hitting #1 as well, on both charts and most certainly on MB. Right now Kenny's song is once again (just like "Til It's Gone" was) the beneficiary of great timing as his song is pretty spaced out between FGL/A Thousand Horses and Kelsea/Carrie/Easton. Black River put a "power up" ad in Country Aircheck on the May 18th issued chart which certainly took affect this week. Kelsea also performed on The Today show on the 21st, which definitely helped her cause since then as well. Black River has promoted this song pretty darn close to flawless.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 13:56:45 GMT -5
Yeah, she blew by Easton and Carrie today, while continuing to hold Blake at bay to land at #5. Can't say I saw that coming. I don't want to jinx it but I don't see how this misses #1 at this point. My point projections for MB actually have Kelsea, Carrie and Easton pretty close right now as Easton's had a pretty good week himself, plus Kelsea was pretty far behind Carrie and Easton in spins this past Sunday. "Love Me Like You Mean It" has gained 663 spins and 3.8 million in audience this week, while "Baby Be My Love Song" gained 423 spins and 3.4 audience and "Little Toy Guns" gained 190 spins and 1.2 million in audience this week (a bad one day update in there which was the effect of a stellar one day update the week before, so I wouldn't go all doom and gloom about Carrie's numbers), with one day left in MB's chart week. At this point though I think that Kelsea will end up hitting #1 as well, on both charts and most certainly on MB. Right now Kenny's song is once again (just like "Til It's Gone" was) the beneficiary of great timing as his song is pretty spaced out between FGL/A Thousand Horses and Kelsea/Carrie/Easton. Black River put a "power up" ad in Country Aircheck on the May 18th issued chart which certainly took affect this week. Kelsea also performed on The Today show on the 21st, which definitely helped her cause since then as well. Black River has promoted this song pretty darn close to flawless. You forgot about the Blake Shelton factor if he moves fast enough he could spoil the party for one of Carrie Kelsea or Easton.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 30, 2015 14:00:33 GMT -5
My point projections for MB actually have Kelsea, Carrie and Easton pretty close right now as Easton's had a pretty good week himself, plus Kelsea was pretty far behind Carrie and Easton in spins this past Sunday. "Love Me Like You Mean It" has gained 663 spins and 3.8 million in audience this week, while "Baby Be My Love Song" gained 423 spins and 3.4 audience and "Little Toy Guns" gained 190 spins and 1.2 million in audience this week (a bad one day update in there which was the effect of a stellar one day update the week before, so I wouldn't go all doom and gloom about Carrie's numbers), with one day left in MB's chart week. At this point though I think that Kelsea will end up hitting #1 as well, on both charts and most certainly on MB. Right now Kenny's song is once again (just like "Til It's Gone" was) the beneficiary of great timing as his song is pretty spaced out between FGL/A Thousand Horses and Kelsea/Carrie/Easton. Black River put a "power up" ad in Country Aircheck on the May 18th issued chart which certainly took affect this week. Kelsea also performed on The Today show on the 21st, which definitely helped her cause since then as well. Black River has promoted this song pretty darn close to flawless. You forgot about the Blake Shelton factor if he moves fast enough he could spoil the party for one of Carrie Kelsea or Easton. I already hinted that Blake Shelton might pass Easton Corbin. Carrie Underwood can breathe easy for another week. On the other hand, I would love to see Kenny Chesney get a #1 here. I would move him to #12 on the list of those artists with the most #1s. Can anyone imagine that back in 1997 when he collected his first chart topper, She's Got It All?
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Post by sabre14 on May 30, 2015 14:02:06 GMT -5
My point projections for MB actually have Kelsea, Carrie and Easton pretty close right now as Easton's had a pretty good week himself, plus Kelsea was pretty far behind Carrie and Easton in spins this past Sunday. "Love Me Like You Mean It" has gained 663 spins and 3.8 million in audience this week, while "Baby Be My Love Song" gained 423 spins and 3.4 audience and "Little Toy Guns" gained 190 spins and 1.2 million in audience this week (a bad one day update in there which was the effect of a stellar one day update the week before, so I wouldn't go all doom and gloom about Carrie's numbers), with one day left in MB's chart week. At this point though I think that Kelsea will end up hitting #1 as well, on both charts and most certainly on MB. Right now Kenny's song is once again (just like "Til It's Gone" was) the beneficiary of great timing as his song is pretty spaced out between FGL/A Thousand Horses and Kelsea/Carrie/Easton. Black River put a "power up" ad in Country Aircheck on the May 18th issued chart which certainly took affect this week. Kelsea also performed on The Today show on the 21st, which definitely helped her cause since then as well. Black River has promoted this song pretty darn close to flawless. You forgot about the Blake Shelton factor if he moves fast enough he could spoil the party for one of Carrie Kelsea or Easton. Call me crazy but I actually think Kelsea can stay ahead of Blake here. Now, I know that's not a certainty as Blake gained 475 spins and 3.5 million in audience himself this week, but Kelsea pulled further ahead in points on MB, though I admit Billboard could be a different story. Black River is clearly going full throttle here as they know that Blake's song getting ahead is not good. "Sangria" is selling stupid well, but "Love Me Like You Mean It" is also selling very well itself and Kelsea really couldn't be in better shape all things considered.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 14:07:45 GMT -5
You forgot about the Blake Shelton factor if he moves fast enough he could spoil the party for one of Carrie Kelsea or Easton. Call me crazy but I actually think Kelsea can stay ahead of Blake here. Now, I know that's not a certainty as Blake gained 475 spins and 3.5 million in audience himself this week, but Kelsea pulled further ahead in points on MB, though I admit Billboard could be a different story. Black River is clearly going full throttle here as they know that Blake's song getting ahead is not good. "Sangria" is selling stupid well, but "Love Me Like You Mean It" is also selling very well itself and Kelsea really couldn't be in better shape all things considered. Trust me I'm rooting for Kelsea even if her album had disappointing sales :'(. But I think we need jhomes87 for this whole situation because now between the 4 of those songs it's a bloodbath.
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Post by bigfan101 on May 30, 2015 14:09:21 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I actually think Kelsea can stay ahead of Blake here. Now, I know that's not a certainty as Blake gained 475 spins and 3.5 million in audience himself this week, but Kelsea pulled further ahead in points on MB, though I admit Billboard could be a different story. Black River is clearly going full throttle here as they know that Blake's song getting ahead is not good. "Sangria" is selling stupid well, but "Love Me Like You Mean It" is also selling very well itself and Kelsea really couldn't be in better shape all things considered. Trust me I'm rooting for Kelsea even if her album had disappointing sales :'(. But I think we need jhomes87 for this whole situation because now between the 4 of those songs it's a bloodbath. sabre14 is the resident Mediabase expert ;) jhomes87 should be able to give you a direction if your looking for Billboard insight.
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Post by sabre14 on May 30, 2015 14:11:26 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I actually think Kelsea can stay ahead of Blake here. Now, I know that's not a certainty as Blake gained 475 spins and 3.5 million in audience himself this week, but Kelsea pulled further ahead in points on MB, though I admit Billboard could be a different story. Black River is clearly going full throttle here as they know that Blake's song getting ahead is not good. "Sangria" is selling stupid well, but "Love Me Like You Mean It" is also selling very well itself and Kelsea really couldn't be in better shape all things considered. Trust me I'm rooting for Kelsea even if her album had disappointing sales :'(. But I think we need jhomes87 for this whole situation because now between the 4 of those songs it's a bloodbath. jhomes87 lives and dies with her Billboard audience, so she's the one to ask about that chart since I know you prefer Billboard. The MB numbers can translate to Billboard as long as W1 isn't involved. :)
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 14:12:00 GMT -5
Trust me I'm rooting for Kelsea even if her album had disappointing sales :'(. But I think we need jhomes87 for this whole situation because now between the 4 of those songs it's a bloodbath. sabre14 is the resident Mediabase expert ;) jhomes87 should be able to give you a direction if your looking for Billboard insight. I am if Kelsea could become the first woman to hit #1 since Blown Away (solo that is) that would be huge. I do want the Billboard part though because I am more of a Billboard guy. But I am glad I got the MB portion.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 30, 2015 14:15:54 GMT -5
sabre14 is the resident Mediabase expert ;) jhomes87 should be able to give you a direction if your looking for Billboard insight. I am if Kelsea could become the first woman to hit #1 since Blown Away (solo that is) that would be huge. I do want the Billboard part though because I am more of a Billboard guy. But I am glad I got the MB portion. It would also be huge because it would be Black River's first #1 (on either MediaBase and/or Billboard). It would put that label on the map big time.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 14:17:20 GMT -5
^Heh I didn't even think about it that angle. Safe to say this song I'm watching this song closely everyday.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 30, 2015 14:18:46 GMT -5
^Heh I didn't even think about it that angle. Safe to say this song I'm watching this song closely everyday. We all are. Kelsea Ballerini is this year's little engine that could.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 14:23:53 GMT -5
^Heh I didn't even think about it that angle. Safe to say this song I'm watching this song closely everyday. We all are. Kelsea Ballerini is this year's little engine that could. Kelsea Ballerini (with the exception of A Thousand Horses) I consider the biggest breakout star in country this year so far. Let's hope Tomorrow she can hold her ground and finish in the Top 5. I, looking forward to how she does the next couple of weeks.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 30, 2015 14:27:07 GMT -5
We all are. Kelsea Ballerini is this year's little engine that could. Kelsea Ballerini (with the exception of A Thousand Horses) I consider the biggest breakout star in country this year so far. Let's hope Tomorrow she can hold her ground and finish in the Top 5. I, looking forward to how she does the next couple of weeks. Don't forget about Maddie & Tae that finished at #1 late last year with Girl In A Country Song. The big difference between the artists you mentioned are that A Thousand Horses are on a big label (Big Machine) versus Kelsea Ballerini being on Black River, thus the 'little engine' comment from earlier. I would love to see her hit #1 so that the Pegulas can have a parade in Nashville proclaiming 'we're #1!'
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Post by dm2081 on May 30, 2015 16:20:32 GMT -5
We all are. Kelsea Ballerini is this year's little engine that could. Kelsea Ballerini (with the exception of A Thousand Horses) I consider the biggest breakout star in country this year so far. Let's hope Tomorrow she can hold her ground and finish in the Top 5. I, looking forward to how she does the next couple of weeks. I'll add Chris Janson to that list as well, although his song still has a long time left on the charts. I'll be curious to see the album sales for Chris and A Thousand Horses.
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Post by spencer on May 30, 2015 18:51:32 GMT -5
I have little to no insight on chart runs but I have some observations I'd like to throw out like: The Ballerini and Corbin songs are quite old is that the norm for chart runs? If the answer is No, how come these songs are still there? If they are so in demand why didn't they climb faster? Would one hit song really be enough to give a fledgling record label the status to deal with the dominate labels? The spin difference between LMLYMI and LTG is not big and LTG is ahead in AIs. I don't understand why some people are concerned that LTG will not make it to the top. To me it appears that LMLYMI is at the moment getting a big push, which explains it's movement while LTG is basically climbing on it's own.. From what I've read the charts appear to be manipulated, doesn't that taint the charts' credibility?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 19:13:22 GMT -5
I have little to no insight on chart runs but I have some observations I'd like to throw out like: The Ballerini and Corbin songs are quite old is that the norm for chart runs? If the answer is No, how come these songs are still there? If they are so in demand why didn't they climb faster? Would one hit song really be enough to give a fledgling record label the status to deal with the dominate labels? The spin difference between LMLYMI and LTG is not big and LTG is ahead in AIs. I don't understand why some people are concerned that LTG will not make it to the top. To me it appears that LMLYMI is at the moment getting a big push, which explains it's movement while LTG is basically climbing on it's own.. From what I've read the charts appear to be manipulated, doesn't that taint the charts' credibility? Yes it is normal unless your Luke Bryan FGL Carrie Blake expect long runs. Easton and Kelsea had to just wait it out and slip thru the cracks. I think with this song Black River is just gonna become more noticed in the music industry. While the difference isn't big I think Black River isn't going to let Carrie pass Kelsea again. It's getting up in spins so it can be up high on Airplay. Charts manipulated thru labels but the charts are entertaining to see who does get in top and who comes short.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 30, 2015 19:22:11 GMT -5
spencer: Long chart runs are normal for new artists like Kelsea, particularly on smaller labels. Radio has always been reluctant to play singles from independent acts, and indie labels rarely have the deep pockets for marketing and promotion that the majors do, so the deck is often stacked against them. Black River in particular is very tenatious about keeping their singles alive as long as possible, so they'll keep pushing and pushing until a song drops out. Also, Black River is owned by multi-billionaires, so they do have the resources despite not having the name recognition just yet. As for Easton, he's had a few hits on a major label (Mercury) but still isn't a "big" name yet, so he has to be worked harder to have a hit than a more established artist like, say, Keith Urban would. That and Easton's last single didn't make it out of the 30s, so he has to work a lot harder to regain what little footing he had. Also, Mercury has been really weak overall for several years — look at Billy Currington, who has had nearly every single absolutely crawl up the charts even though he's been on Mercury 12 years now, and he's probably their biggest act at the moment. One hit song may not change Black River's fortunes overnight, but I have a feeling that "Love Me Like You Mean It" will at least be a factor. A lot of people are calling Kelsea Ballerini the next Taylor, and I can see the parallels not only in style, but also in her positioning. When Taylor first hit with "Tim McGraw", Big Machine was not unlike Black River in that it was an independent label that hadn't really broken anyone out yet (outside a fluke #1 from Jack Ingram), and that song had a long slow climb to #6. But once Taylor started heating up, Big Machine did likewise, and they gradually grew to a big enough indie label to have the kind of "pull" that a major does. Granted, Taylor wasn't the only factor in making Big Machine the monster it is now — The Band Perry having a huge crossover with "If I Die Young" and FGL with "Cruise" were also major factors — but I have no doubt that Kelsea has the potential to start a similar chain reaction at Black River. The "manipulation" usually only occurs as songs get closer to the penthouse. There are often artificial pushes to #1 that result in a collapse the week after, or pushes that get a song to #1 only on Mediabase, which uses a slightly different survey panel and tabulation system than Billboard does. The "Mediabase-only" pushes usually manifest on Billboard in the form of a song going to #2 or #3, then plummeting to about #10 or so the next week.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 14:19:53 GMT -5
Congrats Kelsea Ballerini it's official she has a Top 5 on MB. For BB I have her through stuck at #8 because Eason Carrie and Blake were way too far ahead. But she is now catches up to them. Go Kelsea
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on May 31, 2015 15:12:49 GMT -5
Having had time to digest the album I think this was the smartest choice for lead single, it's catchy and has a certain familiarity to it that probably helped it climb. I'm hoping #1 will happen here, I'm pretty sure it will but I'm admittedly a little worried with Blake so close by lol
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Post by dajire4 on Jun 3, 2015 9:17:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 6:08:13 GMT -5
Allrighty this weeks hot discussion was the whole Kelsea Blake Easton Carrie stuff. I can comfortably say that Kelsea is now starting to pull away from the pack at least on MB. Tomorrow she looks to land at #3 this week with A Thousand Horses falling below. I'm not sure where this'll translate to Billboard but I think she could sneak by Carrie Easton and Blake. She is for sure getting the MB #1. Billboard will be tricky.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jun 6, 2015 20:53:13 GMT -5
Has anybody else noticed that the album version of this song is different from the radio version? The chorus is way choppier and the vocal seems a bit more processed at times during the verses.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 6, 2015 23:12:53 GMT -5
Has anybody else noticed that the album version of this song is different from the radio version? The chorus is way choppier and the vocal seems a bit more processed at times during the verses. I haven't noticed that, but I did hear a version on radio where the poppier elements in the production had been swapped out for stuff like violins.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 23:15:37 GMT -5
Has anybody else noticed that the album version of this song is different from the radio version? The chorus is way choppier and the vocal seems a bit more processed at times during the verses. I haven't noticed that, but I did hear a version on radio where the poppier elements in the production had been swapped out for stuff like violins. ...and I heard a version last night on The Country Club with Dee Jay Silver where Colt Ford was rapping along with Kelsea Good lord I cannot stand the Country Club. It is unbearably awful. Any time I get in my car now and it's Friday or Saturday night, I have to switch to a Pop station because Dee Jay Silver's remixes are honestly the worst (and most awkward-sounding) things I have EVER heard.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 6, 2015 23:18:30 GMT -5
I haven't noticed that, but I did hear a version on radio where the poppier elements in the production had been swapped out for stuff like violins. ...and I heard a version last night on The Country Club with Dee Jay Silver where Colt Ford was rapping along with Kelsea Good lord I cannot stand the Country Club. It is unbearably awful. Any time I get in my car now and it's Friday or Saturday night, I have to switch to a Pop station because Dee Jay Silver's remixes are honestly the worst (and most awkward-sounding) things I have EVER heard. Dear God. I am thankful to have never heard him on my radio. ETA: To clarify I mean Dee Jay Silver, but also Colt Ford (so double-yay there).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 6:52:17 GMT -5
Ok everybody it is official Kelsea is in the Top 3 on MB. In doing so she has now tied Jana Kramer Why Ya Wanna for the highest solo female debut since Carrie Underwood in 2005 I want to say with Jesus Take The Wheel.
My estimations have Kelsea landing at either #4 or #5 depending if she can repass Blake as I think she will pass Easton. A Thousand Horses will fall beneath along with Billy. But I see Carrie staying ahead of her.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 8, 2015 21:35:51 GMT -5
Well, this race is turning out to be pretty good, lol. "Love Me Like You Mean It" is only 70k in total audience behind Blake in tonight's Billboard Airplay chart and Carrie actually leaped Blake. Just over 1.0 million in audience separate Carrie (#3) from Easton (#6). Kelsea's song was the greatest gainer out of the top 6 songs on the chart in audience, with over 4.6 million gained this week.
I'm starting to really believe what was my hope all along that Warner might slow "Sangria" down just a bit to allow Kelsea and Carrie to peak and move out of the way, on both MB and Billboard (of course Kelsea and Carrie are already ahead on MB's rolling chart).
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jun 10, 2015 17:38:06 GMT -5
This has recently become one of my guilty pleasures as of late (along with Blake's, Brett's, and Parmalee's latest) and I really hope this can make it to the top.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 7:40:10 GMT -5
Come on Kelsea. The last updates while not bad have really lowered the bullet. Im still hopeful but Blake is closing in on MB I think. Please Kelsea do it. Also I talked to somebody on this song they mention that this song caters to the bro country singers cause the line "Oh hey, boy with your hat back." Well hopefully this song can sneak in the top somehow but now I am thinking its the weakest out of Carrie and Blake. Well lets see what else happens this week.
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