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Post by krissirge on Jun 20, 2014 11:44:50 GMT -5
Nickelback was the best and most consistent band of the noughties. From the darker Silver Side Up to the cock rock of Dark Horse (which I call one of my soundtrack for a year-two of my life).Even the State, which from that decade was my least favorite, has a few great songs.
I would love to see this band have another ATRR type of album and bring what the detractors call "dude-rock" back to the forefront of mainstream rock music.
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Post by Best In The World on Jun 20, 2014 18:09:00 GMT -5
My favorite single by the band remains "Too Bad". I was really surprised the band/label only worked two tracks at Active Rock from "Here and Now". Fully agreed. "Gotta Get Me Some" and "Midnight Queen" were perfect for the format.
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 20, 2014 18:18:07 GMT -5
So I am in the minority.
Who woulda figured
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Post by Pipa on Jun 20, 2014 19:36:54 GMT -5
My favorite single by the band remains "Too Bad". I was really surprised the band/label only worked two tracks at Active Rock from "Here and Now". Fully agreed. "Gotta Get Me Some" and "Midnight Queen" were perfect for the format. "Kiss It Goodbye" was really the only other worthwhile choice, IMO.
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Post by maine on Jun 21, 2014 0:08:47 GMT -5
My favorite single by the band remains "Too Bad". I was really surprised the band/label only worked two tracks at Active Rock from "Here and Now". Fully agreed. "Gotta Get Me Some" and "Midnight Queen" were perfect for the format. I feel like "Gotta Get Me Some" would have been a big hit on Active. It's different from the usual Nickelback. It's very groovy.
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Post by Mandrakegray on Jun 21, 2014 13:09:00 GMT -5
To my ears, "Kiss It Goodbye" and "Gotta Get Me Some" were the two obvious Active Rock singles not worked from "Here and Now".
The choice to only work two songs to Active was especially odd considering the band's history with the format, the success of "Bottoms Up" and "This Means War" on the chart, and the disappointment they had to be dealing with over the lack of major success in the states for the singles worked at CHR.
They had some success at Adult Top 40 ("When We Stand Together" and "Lullaby" managed to reach #12 and #15 respectively) but considering they've placed over 10 singles in the Top 10 of that chart over the years, it seems to me that the Active Rock format was the only one who still fully embraced the band with the last album (in the US).
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 22, 2014 1:25:13 GMT -5
I honestly think these guys get far more hate than they deserve. Sure, I'm also not a big fan of their music, nor do they make the most interesting or creative stuff around, but songs like "Burn It to the Ground", "This Means War", and some of their older stuff are pretty badass. I'd readily take Nickelback over, say, the indie pop stuff.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 22, 2014 20:57:13 GMT -5
So I am in the minority. Who woulda figured Let's talk. You and I tend to have somewhat similar tastes on here, and I imagine what few Nickelback songs we like would also be similar. Like you, "Because Of You" is easily my favorite of Nickelback's radio singles (not sure if you knew that it was a fairly successful single at active rock radio about 10 years ago). But given your more alt-metal leaning tastes, two songs that you should check out are those that round out my top 3 favorite songs of Nickelback's career: 1. "Believe It Or Not" (same album as "Because Of You" and I think it'd totally be up your alley) 2. "Because Of You" 3. "Little Friend" (super old school song, but I'd say it's definitely edgier than nearly anything they've done since)
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Post by Pipa on Jun 22, 2014 21:41:46 GMT -5
I also want to throw their B-side "Slow Motion" out there. Their most The State-sounding song since The State.
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Post by maine on Jun 22, 2014 22:48:27 GMT -5
So I am in the minority. Who woulda figured To help out jvandyck87 & Pipa with their suggestions: Plus my own:
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Post by Best In The World on Jun 22, 2014 22:58:30 GMT -5
I would also recommend "Hold Out Your Hand" as it has Nickelback's most unique instrumentation to date IMO.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jun 23, 2014 0:26:17 GMT -5
I'm not gonna quote anyone, because Nickleback fanship allways starts a surefire argument, but IMOP bands like Shinedown, Hinder, and Nickleback brought the adrenaline back to hard Rock. I'm excited for the band and I can get into all thier styles from "How You Remind Me" to "Lulabye" to "Animals"(my personal favourite)"Revolution" sounds like it will be really interesting. Governemnts are totally f**ked now adays. I think we all would be better off without them or at least clean them up before they take the whole world to hell. Especially these paranoid leaders that want to control everything and everyone. Can't f**kin' wait to hear Nickleback's take on political issues. Best part is that "Revolution" comes out on my B-day month!!!
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Post by Kurt on Jun 23, 2014 0:31:57 GMT -5
Haven't listened to the interview from the first post – has anything been said about whether they're doing another split-single release with a different single to HAC radio?
I'm not much of an active rock fan in general (probably not surprising to most of you, ha), but I've always liked their HAC/CHR singles output even despite the overly-negative reactions from the general public. A shame that "When We Stand Together" and "Lullaby" underperformed last era.
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Post by maine on Jun 23, 2014 0:35:32 GMT -5
Haven't listened to the interview from the first post – has anything been said about whether they're doing another split-single release with a different single to HAC radio? I'm not much of an active rock fan in general (probably not surprising to most of you, ha), but I've always liked their HAC/CHR singles output even despite the overly-negative reactions from the general public. A shame that "When We Stand Together" and "Lullaby" underperformed last era. Not yet. It's likely going to be a split-release like the last album. Chad stated they picked the first rock single (this), but he never stated anything about the first pop. My guess is that they just haven't picked a song yet, which is why Chad didn't say anything. He said they're nearly done with the album. They have 9 songs finished out of the traditional 11. They'll probably pick something soon and announce it in the coming weeks, if "Revolution"'s August release date still stays the same.
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Post by maine on Jun 23, 2014 0:47:19 GMT -5
Just something I noticed when I was re-listening to the interview, Chad stated that the first single will be released in August, that doesn't necessarily mean it is this. They could go back to their old ways with singles with pop first, rock second since Here and Now's split-single thing did not work at all ("When We Stand Together" missed Top 40 on Hot 100, "Bottoms Up" missed #1 on Active; also the album kind of flopped for a Nickelback album). So this might be released later and the pop single will be out in August while this will be out in late-September or early-October. This also applies to what I said to you Kurt like 5 minutes ago lol.
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Post by Best In The World on Jun 23, 2014 0:55:16 GMT -5
Personally, I hope they return to their roots with a pop-free album this time around.
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Post by maine on Jun 23, 2014 1:12:09 GMT -5
Personally, I hope they return to their roots with a pop-free album this time around. That will never happen lol
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 23, 2014 6:15:46 GMT -5
Yeah, they know they need to release the softer stuff to sell the albums but the other half of their record they're free to do anything. But that assumes their softer stuff is worse which is usually not the case at all.
But in terms of heavier stuff worth listening to, I'd give these 3 a go.
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Post by Best In The World on Jun 23, 2014 9:40:38 GMT -5
Personally, I hope they return to their roots with a pop-free album this time around. That will never happen lol I think it can because I'm sure both Nickelback and their label know that power ballads don't sell anymore. While I fully expect there to still be power ballads (Nickelback are one of the bands "paying the bills" for Roadrunner), I don't think it would make a difference if there wasn't. The days of these guys dominating Hot AC are long gone. Also, Nickelback have expressed desires to change direction and there is no better time than now.
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Post by maine on Jun 23, 2014 10:58:16 GMT -5
That will never happen lol I think it can because I'm sure both Nickelback and their label know that power ballads don't sell anymore. While I fully expect there to still be power ballads (Nickelback are one of the bands "paying the bills" for Roadrunner), I don't think it would make a difference if there wasn't. The days of these guys dominating Hot AC are long gone. Also, Nickelback have expressed desires to change direction and there is no better time than now. I don't think Nickelback is apart of Roadrunner anymore. They just signed to Republic this year, so I don't know if that means they left Roadrunner or Roadrunner will only take care of the album in certain countries. Yeah you're right, power ballads don't sell anymore, but there are other ways to get to pop radio (sadly pop rock sh*t that I hope they don't go to). I'd love to see an all rock record, but I just think it won't happen. Plus, I would think Republic would want pop stuff on the album so they can get some money, because it's really the pop stuff that helps sell the album.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 23, 2014 11:50:23 GMT -5
Yeah they're not with Roadrunner anymore, but I doubt that would be a reason for them to change direction anyway.
They have 3 choices the way I see it.
1. Stick with the tried & tested mix of Rockers and Ballads. 2. Lean much more towards a heavier rock sound and only have 1 or 2 softer songs. 3. Go full electronic pop like Daughtry & forget Rock entirely. Try to fit with current radio trend.
I can't see them changing much to be honest. They clearly chase mainstream success but they're a rock band at heart. You go to a concert of theres, its not a lighters and acoustic guitar fest, its very loud and exciting. I also don't see them having much interest nor the knowledge to attempt a very dance/pop related album like Daughtry because it just isn't in their wheel house.
That new Daughtry album was a very disheartening. I mean Daughtry weren't exactly Metallica or Slipknot in terms of heaviness but they were accepted as a solid pop rock band. For them to abandon their rock sound completely was a sad state of affairs.
Like them or not, Nickelback are one of the few mainstream bands left that can (possibly still) chart on both Rock & pop charts. Timing is everything, and the current radio trend isn't in their favour.
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Post by maine on Jun 23, 2014 12:59:37 GMT -5
Yeah they're not with Roadrunner anymore, but I doubt that would be a reason for them to change direction anyway. They have 3 choices the way I see it. 1. Stick with the tried & tested mix of Rockers and Ballads. 2. Lean much more towards a heavier rock sound and only have 1 or 2 softer songs.3. Go full electronic pop like Daughtry & forget Rock entirely. Try to fit with current radio trend. I can't see them changing much to be honest. They clearly chase mainstream success but they're a rock band at heart. You go to a concert of theres, its not a lighters and acoustic guitar fest, its very loud and exciting. I also don't see them having much interest nor the knowledge to attempt a very dance/pop related album like Daughtry because it just isn't in their wheel house. That new Daughtry album was a very disheartening. I mean Daughtry weren't exactly Metallica or Slipknot in terms of heaviness but they were accepted as a solid pop rock band. For them to abandon their rock sound completely was a sad state of affairs. Like them or not, Nickelback are one of the few mainstream bands left that can (possibly still) chart on both Rock & pop charts. Timing is everything, and the current radio trend isn't in their favour. I'm hoping for the 2nd choice. I like their softer stuff, but it burns on me more quickly than their rock stuff. "This Means War" is still in my playlist since October, 2011 and I have yet to get sick of it. I'm hoping for something like The Long Road where it's mainly hard rock with a few soft ones. They could go like Theory's new album, mostly hard (judging by the tracklisting). Rock on pop has not really happened for a few years now. They might have to go full rock. If they go down the road of Daughtry, I 100% guarantee I won't buy the album. Baptized is absolute garbage.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 23, 2014 13:15:20 GMT -5
Yeah they're not with Roadrunner anymore, but I doubt that would be a reason for them to change direction anyway. They have 3 choices the way I see it. 1. Stick with the tried & tested mix of Rockers and Ballads. 2. Lean much more towards a heavier rock sound and only have 1 or 2 softer songs.3. Go full electronic pop like Daughtry & forget Rock entirely. Try to fit with current radio trend. I can't see them changing much to be honest. They clearly chase mainstream success but they're a rock band at heart. You go to a concert of theres, its not a lighters and acoustic guitar fest, its very loud and exciting. I also don't see them having much interest nor the knowledge to attempt a very dance/pop related album like Daughtry because it just isn't in their wheel house. That new Daughtry album was a very disheartening. I mean Daughtry weren't exactly Metallica or Slipknot in terms of heaviness but they were accepted as a solid pop rock band. For them to abandon their rock sound completely was a sad state of affairs. Like them or not, Nickelback are one of the few mainstream bands left that can (possibly still) chart on both Rock & pop charts. Timing is everything, and the current radio trend isn't in their favour. I'm hoping for the 2nd choice. I like their softer stuff, but it burns on me more quickly than their rock stuff. "This Means War" is still in my playlist since October, 2011 and I have yet to get sick of it. I'm hoping for something like The Long Road where it's mainly hard rock with a few soft ones. They could go like Theory's new album, mostly hard (judging by the tracklisting). Rock on pop has not really happened for a few years now. They might have to go full rock. If they go down the road of Daughtry, I 100% guarantee I won't buy the album. Baptized is absolute garbage. Speaking as a die hard Nickelback fan, I wouldn't go near a Baptized type album either from Nickelback.
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Post by Best In The World on Jun 23, 2014 14:03:12 GMT -5
Judging by Chad Kroeger's work with Timbaland, an electronic Nickelback album would be pretty underwhelming.
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Post by maine on Jun 23, 2014 14:35:31 GMT -5
Judging by Chad Kroeger's work with Timbaland, an electronic Nickelback album would be pretty underwhelming. I like that song
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jun 24, 2014 2:38:29 GMT -5
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I hope that doesn't happen. Chad is a pretty smart guy ,but I really hope he doesn't team up with AVICCI
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 24, 2014 9:13:25 GMT -5
mcbrearty I hope that doesn't happen. Chad is a pretty smart guy ,but I really hope he doesn't team up with AVICCI Well I could see him doing another duet up with Avril Lavigne maybe for a Nickelback album. But they've always confessed to being a hard rock band at heart so I hope they keep that intact. Rock music always falls in and out of fashion but keeps coming back.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Jun 24, 2014 15:57:56 GMT -5
I don't mean to fencesit but I like early Nickelback material (The State - ATRR with Breathe, Never Again, Because Of You, and Side Of The Bullet being standout tracks for me) though when they started trying to appeal to Pop Radio with ATRR I started stepping out of their fan circle. Only ballad I really like by them is Savin' Me and I really can't stand Far Away. Then they turned into cock rock so I don't have much hope for this musically though lyrically anything better than 'Something In Your Mouth' is an improvement.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 24, 2014 16:59:43 GMT -5
To me songs like Savin' Me, Lullaby and If Everyone Cared are terrific songs, it doesn't matter that they aren't heavy.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jun 27, 2014 3:33:03 GMT -5
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Exactly. All hard rock bands have released power ballads at one time or another. For me the Power ballads are just as good and at times better than thie heavier stuff. It shows the bands can take thier music to another level.
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