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Post by Lordef†ones on Jul 4, 2014 9:30:40 GMT -5
Even Disney songs aren't as bad as "Far Away"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 9:31:50 GMT -5
Hope it doesn't seemingly take forever before this gets released.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 4, 2014 9:52:33 GMT -5
These guys have no Alternative chance... or do they?
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Post by Cody on Jul 4, 2014 9:55:01 GMT -5
These guys have no Alternative chance... or do they? Not a chance. Hell, there are alternative stations in Canada, 102.1 The Edge in Toronto and Live 88.5 in Ottawa, for example, who advertise "No Nickelback!" in an attempt to get morning show listeners.
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Post by Pipa on Jul 4, 2014 12:14:10 GMT -5
These guys have no Alternative chance... or do they? Not a chance. Hell, there are alternative stations in Canada, 102.1 The Edge in Toronto and Live 88.5 in Ottawa, for example, who advertise "No Nickelback!" in an attempt to get morning show listeners. And yet both of them have a history of playing Nickelback...
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Post by mcbrearty on Jul 4, 2014 12:22:45 GMT -5
I'm trying to picture what this will sound like. If its truly a hard rocker, it may be more predictable Nickelback with a political edge. If its trying to reach both rock n' pop formats it could be more intriguing.
"Bottoms Up" was a solid rock song but was too unremarkable as a first single.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 4, 2014 12:36:24 GMT -5
I think Chad has enough of an understanding of today's music industry to realized that there is basically no overlap between active rock and CHR and that even if they try to cater to CHR, they're basically gonna be DOA there. Their best shot at staying relevant is to cater to rock fans and hope that rock becomes popular again in the next decade and try to strike then with a pop comeback. Will they send a song to CHR and one or two singles to Hot AC? I'm sure they will, but they won't do very well. They might get a top 50 on Alternative with a lead single if 3 or 4 stations add it in fairly significant rotation and the rest of the panel ignores them altogether, but that's about it. Nickelback's only shot at nearly an entire panel supporting them is to pull a Theory Of A Deadman and go back to their pre-cock rock roots and hope that by virtue of being a bigger name, their lead single can outperform what "Drown" is doing now, though "Drown" even has an outside shot of being a #1 on active so there you go.
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Post by Cody on Jul 4, 2014 14:46:45 GMT -5
Not a chance. Hell, there are alternative stations in Canada, 102.1 The Edge in Toronto and Live 88.5 in Ottawa, for example, who advertise "No Nickelback!" in an attempt to get morning show listeners. And yet both of them have a history of playing Nickelback... Yeah lol, talk about being desperate. Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jul 4, 2014 16:41:16 GMT -5
These guys have no Alternative chance... or do they? Not a chance. Hell, there are alternative stations in Canada, 102.1 The Edge in Toronto and Live 88.5 in Ottawa, for example, who advertise "No Nickelback!" in an attempt to get morning show listeners. I find that pretty pathetic to be honest. Just because a band doesn't lean towards a particular format anymore doesn't mean a radio station has to actively shun that band to attract more listeners. Talk about desperation indeed. Also, have fun turning off older listeners who might like Nickelback.
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Post by Best In The World on Jul 4, 2014 17:26:21 GMT -5
Not a chance. Hell, there are alternative stations in Canada, 102.1 The Edge in Toronto and Live 88.5 in Ottawa, for example, who advertise "No Nickelback!" in an attempt to get morning show listeners. I find that pretty pathetic to be honest. Just because a band doesn't lean towards a particular format anymore doesn't mean a radio station has to actively shun that band to attract more listeners. Talk about desperation indeed. Also, have fun turning off older listeners who might like Nickelback. I agree. It's goofy and pretentious, like the alternative station in Houston that "banned" Adelitas Way.
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Post by Cody on Jul 4, 2014 17:32:08 GMT -5
Not a chance. Hell, there are alternative stations in Canada, 102.1 The Edge in Toronto and Live 88.5 in Ottawa, for example, who advertise "No Nickelback!" in an attempt to get morning show listeners. I find that pretty pathetic to be honest. Just because a band doesn't lean towards a particular format anymore doesn't mean a radio station has to actively shun that band to attract more listeners. Talk about desperation indeed. Also, have fun turning off older listeners who might like Nickelback. It doesn't have much do do with the format and general crossover appeal, and more to do with the fact that they're Nickelback and are the most hated band in the world. If you can believe it, the hatred for them up here is just as bad as it is down south of the border. To be fair to Canadian alternative radio, you'd probably prefer it to US alt radio, as it's more open to heavier stuff, and bands like Three Days Grace, Linkin Park, as well as CanCon active-leaning bands like The Sheepdogs and Monster Truck still get considerable airplay on Canadian alt radio. Older hits from active-leaning bands still get lots of airplay too, with the exception of Nickelback But yeah, as a Nickelback fan, I also find it kind of silly.
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Post by Bluemargay on Jul 4, 2014 17:33:53 GMT -5
Limp Bitzkit and Creed are still far more hated/
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Post by Pipa on Jul 4, 2014 18:31:45 GMT -5
To be fair to Canadian alternative radio, you'd probably prefer it to US alt radio, as it's more open to heavier stuff, and bands like Three Days Grace, Linkin Park, as well as CanCon active-leaning bands like The Sheepdogs and Monster Truck still get considerable airplay on Canadian alt radio. Older hits from active-leaning bands still get lots of airplay too, with the exception of Nickelback That's rapidly changing on some stations, especially Sonic and X92.9.
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Post by maine on Aug 1, 2014 9:50:01 GMT -5
Chad and Ryan will be visiting Hard Drive Studios in New York City to premiere new music on August 7 (Thursday). Likely this, and possibly a pop single.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 10:44:12 GMT -5
When did the Nickelback, Creed, and Limp Bizkit backlashes begin anyway? I feel like they were so random lol I remember when all three of them were HUGE.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Aug 1, 2014 14:44:24 GMT -5
I used to like all three of them but I can see why people disliked them. Some of Limp Bizkit's songs are intolerable. Nickelback went down the pop success path with sappy ballads and I guess Creed was too christian? It doesn't help that Scott Stapp and Fred Durst are apparently awful people. They've all got plenty of good songs though.
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Post by mcbrearty on Aug 1, 2014 14:51:09 GMT -5
Nickelback is one of the few to have proper longevity. Bands like Staind, Puddle of Mudd and Creed sorta tapered off after the initial successes.
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Post by Pipa on Aug 1, 2014 14:54:01 GMT -5
What's the difference between God and Scott Stapp?
God doesn't think he's Scott Stapp.
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Post by Cody on Aug 1, 2014 15:06:18 GMT -5
Nickelback is one of the few to have proper longevity. Bands like Staind, Puddle of Mudd and Creed sorta tapered off after the initial successes. Creed probably would've continued being successful had they never went on hiatus.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Aug 1, 2014 15:11:49 GMT -5
Staind are at least somewhat still around and their last two albums seemed successful. Puddle of Mudd are pretty much doomed cause of Wes Scantlin.
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Post by mcbrearty on Aug 1, 2014 15:27:52 GMT -5
Staind are at least somewhat still around and their last two albums seemed successful. Puddle of Mudd are pretty much doomed cause of Wes Scantlin. Wow, I just seen the Puddle Of Mudd stories. What a train wreck.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Aug 2, 2014 17:21:59 GMT -5
The masses are never satisfied. about a decade ago Alt radio started playing some really great bands like Creed, Nickelback, Puddle Of Mudd, Hinder etc..: which you can't argue had more of a Alt Rock sound than the Indie Pop most Alt Rockers hate. They even called the genre Post Grunge. Now they are gone, Indie is taking off and still all the hatred? I seriously think some would rather thier stations just put 30 Alice in Chains songs on rotation and nothing else?
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Post by American Idiot on Aug 2, 2014 23:31:44 GMT -5
There will always be people never 100% satisfied with specific songs on the chart. Trends are going to come and go as time goes on. Right now, indie is what's in. Most of the posters here are fans of what was formerly the trend on the Alternative format 5, 10, or 15 years ago when indie wasn't mainstream or nearly as big as it is now. I don't think those posters including myself aren't that fond of the sub-genre because it's new and different. I think mainly because it's different and unattractive in comparison to what was popular in the past.
Also, there was more variety in the past. Over the last two years, the chart has drastically changed where many bands like 311, Jimmy Eat World, and AFI that had plenty of success in the past have no home. I see it as due to Alternative and Active's vast separation and strictly having less variety. I like how the two formats have differentiated from one another compared to ten years ago, but I don't like how all of a sudden, certain bands are being unaccounted for.
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Post by Green Baron on Aug 2, 2014 23:35:35 GMT -5
I seriously think some would rather thier stations just put 30 Alice in Chains songs on rotation and nothing else? I wouldn't mind. Setlist: Man in the Box Bleed the Freak Sea of Sorrow We Die Young It Ain't Like That Them Bones Down in a Hole Would? Angry Chair Rooster Rain When I Die Dirt God Smack I Stay Away No Excuses Got Me Wrong Heaven Beside You Grind Again God Am Frogs Get Born Again Check My Brain Last of My Kind Your Decision Lesson Learned A Looking in View Hollow Stone Voices
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Post by Brian Battler on Aug 3, 2014 8:45:33 GMT -5
Post Grunge is dead
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Post by Brian Battler on Aug 3, 2014 8:48:19 GMT -5
Nickelback will soon become an electronic pop band
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Post by mcbrearty on Aug 3, 2014 10:09:05 GMT -5
Nickelback will soon become an electronic pop band They really haven't ventured near that type of sound yet. Sure they've gotten very soft in every album since 'Silver Side Up'. But other than maybe 'When We Stand Together' & 'Gotta Be Somebody', they've kept to the meat & potatoes rock sound in their softer stuff. They haven't went near the electronic pop sound that bands like Daughtry, Linkin Park and Goo Goo Dolls have. If they did, I imagine it wouldn't be all over an album.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 3, 2014 11:15:46 GMT -5
I seriously think some would rather thier stations just put 30 Alice in Chains songs on rotation and nothing else? I wouldn't mind. Setlist: Man in the Box Bleed the Freak Sea of Sorrow We Die Young It Ain't Like That Them Bones Down in a Hole Would? Angry Chair Rooster Rain When I Die Dirt God Smack I Stay Away No Excuses Got Me Wrong Heaven Beside You Grind Again God Am Frogs Get Born Again Check My Brain Last of My Kind Your Decision Lesson Learned A Looking in View Hollow Stone VoicesThis list is pretty badass and all, but to me, you're missing maybe the greatest of all Alice In Chains songs and one that also made a dent at radio: "Nutshell". If you haven't heard it, go listen now. Most beautiful song they've ever written.
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Post by krissirge on Aug 4, 2014 3:37:42 GMT -5
I think the sound starting from All The Right Reasons fits Nickelback a lot better than the older, post-grunge. I mean, I still enjoy the albums, but Chad Kroeger sounds a lot more as a horndog bro (i dont mean that as an insult) than an angry , Kurt-Cobain type.
And jesus , what do people have against the Nickelback ballads...Have they never heard a single 80's power ballad...or do they hate those as well.
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Post by maine on Aug 4, 2014 13:36:43 GMT -5
The lead pop single is called "What Are You Waiting For" and it impacts Hot AC on September 22. There will likely be some word about this very soon.
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