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Post by dm2081 on Jan 12, 2015 9:53:51 GMT -5
How hard is EMI willing to get Talladega to #1 now that the duet with Keith Urban has been released? I don't think that will alter EMI's plans one bit. Raise 'Em Up won't peak until summer, so they certainly won't stop promoting this song because of Raise 'Em Up. In fact, I could see them pushing for 2 weeks at #1, though there will be serious competition around him with Luke, Carrie and Fla Ga Line.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 19:26:42 GMT -5
How hard is EMI willing to get Talladega to #1 now that the duet with Keith Urban has been released? "Raise 'Em Up" hasn't been released yet. And even when it does get released, it probably won't have much of an effect on "Talladega" at all. "Talladega" looks like a surefire #1 hit.
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Post by dm2081 on Jan 19, 2015 19:37:52 GMT -5
Tough decision for Eric and his team coming up about what the next single should be. I don't see anything that will be as radio friendly or #1 worthy as GMBMH or Talladega, but there still are some options left. It would seem like the logical choices would be between Like A Wrecking Ball, Roller Coaster Ride, A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young, and Broke Record. I wonder if Luke's recent hit "Roller Coaster" could prevent them from releasing Roller Coaster Ride? Anyways, my vote would be for Like A Wrecking Ball. I think it would show off a different side of Eric that radio hasn't really seen yet. I think ultimately they will go with Roller Coaster Ride though.
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Post by someguy on Jan 19, 2015 19:42:17 GMT -5
I'd really like "A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young", but that might be a bit of a risk for Eric to put out. The influx of really strong, countrier songs being released as singles from some of the top stars of the moment leave me hopeful that "Man..." might get to see a release.
If not that, then I'd be happy with "Like A Wrecking Ball" or "Roller Coaster Ride" (or, to a lesser extent, "Broke Record"), but I think Luke's recent hit makes RCR an unlikely single candidate.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 19, 2015 19:44:20 GMT -5
Tough decision for Eric and his team coming up about what the next single should be. I don't see anything that will be as radio friendly or #1 worthy as GMBMH or Talladega, but there still are some options left. It would seem like the logical choices would be between Like A Wrecking Ball, Roller Coaster Ride, A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young, and Broke Record. I wonder if Luke's recent hit "Roller Coaster" could prevent them from releasing Roller Coaster Ride? Anyways, my vote would be for Like A Wrecking Ball. I think it would show off a different side of Eric that radio hasn't really seen yet. I was actually having a discussion with someone last weekend about "Roller Coaster Ride" being a single and if Luke's song had any impact on EMI's decision. I personally feel that both songs are so far from one another sonically that the similar title wouldn't matter that much. I know it's not the same thing but my God, how many songs have we had with similar titles over the years like "I Need You", "Keep On Lovin' You vs. I Keep On Loving You", etc.. Keith released "Somewhere In My Car" directly after "Cop Car" and it went to #1, so in the end a good song is a good song and I feel radio wouldn't get held up too much on a similar title since both songs are drastically different. "Like A Wrecking Ball" would definitely be my second best choice remaining. I agree that the two most radio-friendly tunes have already been used.
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Post by zjames on Jan 19, 2015 20:22:51 GMT -5
"Like A Wrecking Ball" is the most played non-single on Spotify, and it would be my personal choice for next single.
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Post by rjz on Jan 19, 2015 21:08:50 GMT -5
Although ' A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young' is my favorite off the album I think 'Roller Coaster Ride' or 'Like a Wrecking Ball' would be better radio choices since the Former is even slower than "Loves Me like Jesus Does". Roller Coaster Ride is the safest bet sonically since although Wrecking Ball is a unique and clever song lyrically and musically I wonder if the organ music and whole tone of the song is just too different (like Cold One was) for Country radio.
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Post by jlatn5b on Jan 19, 2015 21:43:09 GMT -5
I don't think it really matters what they release next. Like others have said, there isn't anything else on the album that has the sure-fire feel of a radio hit that GMBMH and Talladega have. Eric's never been one to be tethered to radio for his success, so they can release whatever they want without worrying as much about how high it charts. That said, I'd vote for "Like a Wrecking Ball" too. I've never been crazy about "Roller Coaster Ride".
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 19, 2015 22:16:15 GMT -5
I feel like he's gonna release "Like a Wrecking Ball" and play it on the Grammy's....that's probably gonna make "The Outsiders" even more successful, sales wise, and will probably make Eric even bigger than he already is.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 20, 2015 10:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by dm2081 on Jan 20, 2015 10:17:34 GMT -5
No.... I can't see that doing ANYTHING on radio. It might be controversial, and gain some video plays and sell well, but I can't see that getting played on conservative country radio.
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Post by tim on Jan 20, 2015 10:19:05 GMT -5
Umm... That's about all I can say. Of all the choices on the album to pass up for this...why not give us "A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young" if you were just going to throw something at country radio. I don't know...I skip this song every time when it comes on my Outsiders playlist. Next to "Little Red Wagon" this'll go down as one of my least favorite singles by an A-list artist for 2015.
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 20, 2015 10:23:51 GMT -5
He's crazy lol WHAT ... Well that's not gonna do much, maybe a #44 peak or something. Let's discuss what the 6th single is gonna be now I suppose ???? lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 10:31:42 GMT -5
Although, I feel it's better to have the discussion about why "The Joint" and "Little Red Wagon" won't work for radio as opposed to why songs like "Ready Set Roll" and "Lettin' the Night Roll" will work for radio. Maybe we'll be wrong.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jan 20, 2015 10:33:11 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god you have got to be kidding me. What an absolutely horrible decision. It'll to do jack at radio, I'm damn near sure of it. Edit: also, not sure how well it will sell. I mean, it's eric, but you'll be hard pressed to find a more polarizing song...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 10:39:25 GMT -5
Broadway must be smoking their own joint. No way in hell this can be true. Although I feel like I'm one of the the only ones who likes this. I'm hoping this can be a dark horse hit honestly
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Post by zjames on Jan 20, 2015 11:07:15 GMT -5
I like the song as an album track, but its choice as a single makes me angry.
I understand Eric wants to be seen as an outlaw who doesn't care about radio and mainstreams success, but he's only depriving country fans of what they want to hear and hurting his overall brand. It worked with "The Outsiders" because there was a lot of buzz behind his lead single. But even "The Outsiders" wasn't as unradio-friendly as "The Joint". This is gonna flop hard and not benefit Eric at all.
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 20, 2015 11:17:06 GMT -5
He never performs this in concert. Only time he did was when a fan requested it, and he was like "you win" as if they'd never play that song live ever again...so not exactly sure why he would release a song to radio that won't be played in concert
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Post by kim8 on Jan 20, 2015 11:45:13 GMT -5
Please tell me this is a joke. Of all the songs on the album, this is the only one I skip. In fact, I'm not even sure I've ever listened to this one all the way through I hated it so much. I really wanted Broke Record or Like A Wrecking Ball to be next. Ugh.
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Post by tim on Jan 20, 2015 11:49:01 GMT -5
There's just no way this news can be accurate. I wouldn't even consider the realeae of this song to radio as being brave or taking a chance...it would be foolish. "Dark Side" or "A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young" would be brave. I'm going to wait for another source to confirm this.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 20, 2015 12:26:34 GMT -5
There's just no way this news can be accurate. I wouldn't even consider the realeae of this song to radio as being brave or taking a chance...it would be foolish. "Dark Side" or "A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young" would be brave. I'm going to wait for another source to confirm this.
Oh it's far from confirmed. I still want to see what exactly they do send out to radio. That being said, even though I don't agree with Broadway about almost everything, he does usually have accurate information when it comes to stuff like this.
Here's hoping he's wrong this time.
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 20, 2015 14:55:02 GMT -5
The only way "The Joint" is released as a single is if it is sent to AAA or Alternative Rock radio. It will not really work on Country. Especially in the coming months. "Broke Record," "Roller Coaster Ride" "Like A Wrecking Ball" and "A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young" are all better singles for country radio (I've seen EC play a few of these but that was at a midnight Ryman show with just Jay Joyce supporting him).
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Post by rjz on Jan 20, 2015 20:30:13 GMT -5
Broadway must be smoking their own joint. No way in hell this can be true. Although I feel like I'm one of the the only ones who likes this. I'm hoping this can be a dark horse hit honestly You read my mind with the smoking reference, ha! No, you aren't the only; I also really love this song. But it takes some commitment to listen to the words and ferret out the meaning behind the song. Something that radio is not a good vehicle for in most cases. Considering the subject matter, the mumbling and the general lack of singalong melody to this song? It would be crazy to put this out there as a single, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 20:48:54 GMT -5
Broadway must be smoking their own joint. No way in hell this can be true. Although I feel like I'm one of the the only ones who likes this. I'm hoping this can be a dark horse hit honestly You read my mind with the smoking reference, ha! No, you aren't the only; I also really love this song. But it takes some commitment to listen to the words and ferret out the meaning behind the song. Something that radio is not a good vehicle for in most cases. Considering the subject matter, the mumbling and the general lack of singalong melody to this song? It would be crazy to put this out there as a single, IMO. Yeah it took me like 5 listens or so to understand the lyrics lol. Idk I just like the dark feel to it I guess. I think Eric could maybe take it to like the 40s MAYBE, but that's it. This is a stupider single choice than Garth's latest stuff. I mean is this seriously confirmed for the next single? Times might be changing in country music but not to the point where radio will play something like this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 20:49:43 GMT -5
I actually love "The Joint", but it's not a radio song. It just won't work. It'll get played a little bit because it's Eric, but I'd be surprised if it could make it past 4 or 5 million in audience, and even that might be too high (the bar for the Billboard top 40 has been set between 3 to 3.5 million of late).
Eric needs to be careful. If he gives radio too many songs that they don't want, sooner or later they won't even play the radio-friendly songs that he does give them.
I'm definitely not convinced that they are serious about releasing that song, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Maybe they would be okay with a dud, since Eric is currently featured on Keith Urban's new single (which sounds like a big hit)?
Anyway, "Talladega" lost some spins this morning, which I found to be pretty odd, but I still think it'll have a fairly easy time topping both charts this weekend before either Luke or Carrie (most likely Luke) takes over.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 20, 2015 20:50:52 GMT -5
You read my mind with the smoking reference, ha! No, you aren't the only; I also really love this song. But it takes some commitment to listen to the words and ferret out the meaning behind the song. Something that radio is not a good vehicle for in most cases. Considering the subject matter, the mumbling and the general lack of singalong melody to this song? It would be crazy to put this out there as a single, IMO. Yeah it took me like 5 listens or so to understand the lyrics lol. Idk I just like the dark feel to it I guess. I think Eric could maybe take it to like the 40s MAYBE, but that's it. This is a stupider single choice than Garth's latest stuff. I mean is this seriously confirmed for the next single? Times might be changing in country music but not to the point where radio will play something like this. No, I said that earlier. Broadway is a deejay in Connecticut and is an insider when it comes to upcoming releases. But it is not confirmed yet.
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Post by someguy on Jan 20, 2015 20:53:38 GMT -5
"The Joint" would be an awful choice as a radio single. If he's intent on releasing it, I think it would make much more sense to make it a video-only single, and send something else to radio.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 21:11:20 GMT -5
You know with all the times he has stated that he thinks genres are dead and that music is simply music, you'd think Eric would want to send songs like "The Joint" and "That's Damn Rock and Roll" out to Rock radio. Its not as if its farfetched for a country artist to do that (Steve Earle). I love Church but honestly a lot of his decisions are just too reckless and as jhomes stated above, too risky. And yes I know, it's just him being an outsider but still,you gotta stop playing with the matches or else you'll burn the whole joint down... I'll support the song no matter what, but I'd hate to see Church end this album with a flop
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Post by phil1996 on Jan 20, 2015 21:18:15 GMT -5
The album hasn't even been out for a year. Eric isn't even thinking about his next album. I'm expecting 6-7 singles minimum here for The Outsiders cycle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 21:39:59 GMT -5
The album hasn't even been out for a year. Eric isn't even thinking about his next album. I'm expecting 6-7 singles minimum here for The Outsiders cycle. I've been expecting this too, but if Eric kills all of his momentum, radio might not play any more of his singles this era, or perhaps EMI could decide to not release any more if they don't think it's worth the cost of promoting them. And that would of course be a disastrous situation, as it could mean 6-12 months or more with no new EC music on the radio. The Outsiders is obviously not your typical album of radio-friendly tracks, but I don't agree with those who say that Eric doesn't have any options left. Maybe some of the choices wouldn't be slam-dunk #1's (like "Talladega" and "Give Me Back My Hometown"), but there's easily a handful of songs that would do fairly well at radio (top 20, maybe even top 10) in my opinion. "A Man Who Was Gonna Die Young", "Roller Coaster Ride", "Broke Record", "Like A Wrecking Ball", and "Dark Side" *could* all work at radio. Really, the only songs that wouldn't work are "Devil, Devil" and "The Joint". I love both of them, but they just won't work at country radio (even without the prelude, "Devil, Devil" is like 6 minutes long, lol, and the prelude pushes it to 8 minutes...so that one obviously can't be a single). "That's Damn Rock & Roll" is another song that probably wouldn't work at country radio, but I've been saying since the album was released that the label should release that one to rock radio.
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