Avicii featuring Robbie Williams - "The Days"

[Adam (UTR)]

Mediabase lists this under Island/Republic and Charlie Walk posted this on Instagram, so I guess it's going to be released here. This would be Robbie's first CHR entry since "Angels" in early 2000 if it goes top 50.

[Verisimilitude]

Please tell me Robbie will actually get credited on this. I'm annoyed seeing practically every Avicii single never crediting the vocalists.

[Juan Carlos]

Oh! I wasn't expecting that "The Days" to receive a push in the US so soon.

Oct 2, 2014 8:33:58 GMT -5 Verisimilitude said:

Please tell me Robbie will actually get credited on this. I'm annoyed seeing practically every Avicii single never crediting the vocalists.

I'm not Adam, but Robbie Williams isn't credited on the iTunes release, so I guess he will not be and it will follow all Avicii releases, unless there will be a change in this case.

[getonthebus]

1) Nice but basic. Will do really well. I wonder what effect his medical problems will have on his new album. I'm assuming none, since he can work in the studio and still be at rest. Benefits of being a DJ/Producer act, I guess.

2) I prefer "The Nights" and its pubby groupsing chorus a million times over.

3) Avicii's management specifically doesn't want to credit featured artists, because they prefer him to be seen as an individual artist, not a DJ. The featured artists signed the papers that didn't include a feature credit, so I'm not that mad. It worked out well for Aloe Blacc, for awhile at least.

[Adam (UTR)]

Oct 2, 2014 11:15:39 GMT -5 Juan Carlos said:

Oh! I wasn't expecting that "The Days" to receive a push in the US so soon.

Oct 2, 2014 8:33:58 GMT -5 Verisimilitude said:

Please tell me Robbie will actually get credited on this. I'm annoyed seeing practically every Avicii single never crediting the vocalists.

I'm not Adam, but Robbie Williams isn't credited on the iTunes release, so I guess he will not be and it will follow all Avicii releases, unless there will be a change in this case.

Yeah, Robbie also isn't credited on the Mediabase entry for it, but we know who it is.

[tekkenguy]

I don't see this doing anything here. Aside from the fact that Robbie doesn't want any U.S. success, this may have a hard time getting past WMU's recurrent airplay.

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

Oct 2, 2014 11:37:35 GMT -5 getonthebus said:

3) Avicii's management specifically doesn't want to credit featured artists, because they prefer him to be seen as an individual artist, not a DJ. The featured artists signed the papers that didn't include a feature credit, so I'm not that mad. It worked out well for Aloe Blacc, for awhile at least.

Well he is a producer/DJ, whether he likes it or not. I dont see how crediting a song as "Avicii ft. Robbie Williams" takes anything away from him.

[getonthebus]

Oct 2, 2014 13:24:07 GMT -5 YourFaveIsAFlop said:

Oct 2, 2014 11:37:35 GMT -5 getonthebus said:

3) Avicii's management specifically doesn't want to credit featured artists, because they prefer him to be seen as an individual artist, not a DJ. The featured artists signed the papers that didn't include a feature credit, so I'm not that mad. It worked out well for Aloe Blacc, for awhile at least.

Well he is a producer/DJ, whether he likes it or not. I dont see how crediting a song as "Avicii ft. Robbie Williams" takes anything away from him.

It is absolutely an outdated point of view from the days before DJs and dance music in general became accepted and respected by the general public.

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

I mean, would Wake Me Up have been as big as it was if somebody other than Aloe Blacc was singing it? Who knows. But he was definitely part of what made the song resonate with listeners, and he should have gotten some recognition for it. For Avicii and/or his team to think that the success of his songs is solely his is just absurd.

[clnc]

Oct 2, 2014 13:21:09 GMT -5 tekkenguy said:

I don't see this doing anything here. Aside from the fact that Robbie doesn't want any U.S. success, this may have a hard time getting past WMU's recurrent airplay.

While he certainly seems to have accepted it'll probably never happen and doesn't care that doesn't mean he'd turn up his nose at any success stateside.

[jjose712]

Oct 2, 2014 13:21:09 GMT -5 tekkenguy said:

I don't see this doing anything here. Aside from the fact that Robbie doesn't want any U.S. success, this may have a hard time getting past WMU's recurrent airplay.

Maybe he doesn't want it now, but he really really wanted during his days of glory. Robbie was probably the biggest male singer during one time and his faliures on the USA were painful.

I find absolutely ridiculous not crediting your featured artist, and it is even more ridiculous when they are way more famous than Avicii.

There are dj/producers more famous and successful than him that doesn't seem any problem in crediting their featured artist

[tekkenguy]

Still, I think WMU's recurrent airplay is the song's biggest obstacle.

[Jack]

Robbie has such a terrible voice.

[jjose712]

Oct 2, 2014 13:57:36 GMT -5 Jack said:

Robbie has such a terrible voice.

He is more an entertainer than anything else. He ocuppied the place that George Michael left, but George was (is) a way better vocalist

[Jack]

^ Yeah he's a great showman. But I don't even think he has an average voice. It's actively bad.

[kanimal]

Oct 2, 2014 13:46:04 GMT -5 YourFaveIsAFlop said:

I mean, would Wake Me Up have been as big as it was if somebody other than Aloe Blacc was singing it? Who knows. But he was definitely part of what made the song resonate with listeners, and he should have gotten some recognition for it. For Avicii and/or his team to think that the success of his songs is solely his is just absurd.

Didn't Aloe Blacc also write the lyrics?  And didn't Mike Einziger compose a huge part of the instrumental?

From what I can gather, he was basically just the producer on that song.  I remember reading that Aloe Blacc made a ton off the song anyway, so I'm sure he's fine, but the idea that he was the "artist" behind Wake Me Up is absurd.

[getonthebus]

I mean, if you look at it from Williams point of view, Avicii's people come to you and say "Would you like to sing on Avicii's new lead single? You won't be credited, but you'll get royalties." Which, of course is the lead single following an album that spawned a huge, gigantic hit that still gets played all the time and probably made everyone involved lots of money. Yeah, I would take that deal.

[YourFaveIsAFlop]

For somebody that Robbie Williams that people already know (at least in Europe, less so in America) and is already established, sure. But for somebody like Aloe Blacc that was just coming out with his debut, he still gets shafted even if he did make a ton of money off it.

[jjose712]

Oct 2, 2014 14:18:59 GMT -5 Jack said:

^ Yeah he's a great showman. But I don't even think he has an average voice. It's actively bad.

That never stopped anyone of being successful. A lot of our resident pop divas are really really bad live (in several degrees), from Taylor Swift to Rihanna passing from Katy Perry.
He is not a good singer, he wasn't exactly the voice of Take That (that were time where boybands usually have a main voice and the rest were more back up singers), but he has a lot of charisma, and that helped a lot.
His career were ready to tank (he had three number two songs, but the album sales were far from good) when Angels came to the rescue (curiously Angels peaked at 4, but it was very very big anyway)

[JamaicaFunk²]

I love Robbie Williams. Every time I think he's becoming a "yesterday" act, he serves me up something wonderful and I become obsessed with him all over again. I even became a "Rudebox" fan eventually.

I hope he achieves a little success here in the USA again. The song goes from bland to somewhat interesting (and back to bland). So, I guess we'll see...

[jjose712]

Oct 2, 2014 14:43:15 GMT -5 getonthebus said:

I mean, if you look at it from Williams point of view, Avicii's people come to you and say "Would you like to sing on Avicii's new lead single? You won't be credited, but you'll get royalties." Which, of course is the lead single following an album that spawned a huge, gigantic hit that still gets played all the time and probably made everyone involved lots of money. Yeah, I would take that deal.

But i doubt a lot of people who worked with Calvin Harris or David Guetta accept that deal. You worked with two more famous and successful djs and you were credited for you work, at least you really really need that money i doubt you accept that crap

Maybe it's some kind of vengeance for not being credited in Leona Lewis' Collide

[Juanca]

But Avicii won the battle with Leona and she had to credit him as featured act eventually no?

[jjose712]

Oct 2, 2014 15:28:01 GMT -5 Juanca said:

But Avicii won the battle with Leona and she had to credit him as featured act eventually no?

Yes, and that makes more absurd that he doesn't credit his featured artist

[K.]

I mean, you could say the same thing only in reverse. Should every Britney Spears track feat. the producer? What about backup singers? Vocals on an Avicii track are really no different than production effects on an artist track, at the end of the day. All the contributions are ultimately just bites of data to the whole.

The only real reason to put feat in the title is to capitalize on the featured artist's fame.

[jjose712]

Oct 2, 2014 17:12:26 GMT -5 K. said:

I mean, you could say the same thing only in reverse. Should every Britney Spears track feat. the producer? What about backup singers? Vocals on an Avicii track are really no different than production effects on an artist track, at the end of the day. All the contributions are ultimately just bites of data to the whole.

The only real reason to put feat in the title is to capitalize on the featured artist's fame.

That's not the same, we are talking about the singer wich is the most recognoscible part of a song. And we have examples (when the work is more than evident) when the producer/dj is credited, like We found love (it'f pretty obvious it is a Calvin Harris song)

It's something that makes Avicii really look bad, it's like if he had such ego that he was unable to give credit to the singer of his songs, and maybe Aloe Blacc was not a household name when Wake me up was released but he was a crucial part of the success of the song

[BadRomance]

I read Robin Williams. Not a fan of this.

[maine]

Under Republic Playbook now, no adds though. One should pop up soon.

[getonthebus]

Oct 2, 2014 13:57:36 GMT -5 Jack said:

Robbie has such a terrible voice.

He really isn't giving anything at all in this, is he? It's such a boring vocal that I don't remember much of the melody off the top of my head now.

Should've gone serious throwback and went with Andy Bell.

[surfy]

*yawn* I've never liked Avicii, only "Wake Me Up"... so this is typical, generic, and boring.

[Enyasurvivor]

This is "Africa" by Toto with Shania's "That Don't Impress Much" to me. The only redeeming part is the awesome Nintendo synth at the end