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Post by nikkominaj on Feb 1, 2015 23:52:22 GMT -5
Imma need a new Missy album right now. As long as she stops working with Timbaland.
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 2, 2015 0:00:44 GMT -5
There are three Missy songs above the highest Katy song on iTunes right now #oops Well, Katy Perry's entire career has been in the digital era. Nearly all of Missy's was prior to the digital era. The Super Bowl helped a lot of people go, "oh yeah, Missy Elliott!" and that definitely explains why her songs are higher. You're looking at songs that have already sold 4-6 million copies vs songs that have sold maybe 1 million digitally. It's cool, though, to see it happening. Missy Elliott is a true icon. I hope this kind of jump starts her to return. My dad thought Katy was good just to spite me because I said she was lipping and couldn't sing live. All Super Bowl performers are required to lip sync. To get around it, most pre-record live vocals prior to the show. So, technically, Katy (as well as Missy, Lenny, and whoever else performed in prior years) were performing live vocals, however lipping to those live vocals. What we heard were recordings of Katy standing in front of a mic in a recording studio with little to nothing done to touch it up. Why she doesn't sound like that live usually is because Katy bounces around stage like crazy, and it's difficult to keep proper breath control and sing as well while doing that as opposed to just standing and singing. Sure, a few artists can do it (looking at you, P!nk), but Katy cannot very well. I was a bit surprised at points when it was painfully obvious that she was lipping, though. Like, you would think artists would have a better handle at doing that if they regularly record music videos... On a side note, do we know why NFL/Pepsi/whoever requires the performers to lip sync? And don't they even go as far as to get the instrumentalists to pretend to play rather than actually play as well? Edit: Oh, and I got this strange feeling while watching Katy perform that next year the performer will be Taylor Swift.
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Post by slamina on Feb 2, 2015 0:22:28 GMT -5
Fantastic reviews online from many outlets:Time: Katy Perryβs Super Bowl Halftime Show Was All About Showmanship time.com/3690105/katy-perry-super-bowl-halftime-show-xlix/Rolling Stone: Rolling Stone: Katy Perry Roars, Soars During Super Bowl XLIX Halftime Show www.rollingstone.com/music/news/katy-perry-roars-soars-during-super-bowl-xlix-halftime-show-20150201USA Today: Katy Perry blew away the Super Bowl halftime show ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/katy-perry-halftime-show-review-super-bowl
The Guardian: Katy Perry Super Bowl half time show review β epic, lung-busting kitsch www.theguardian.com/music/2015/feb/01/katy-perry-super-bowl-half-time-show-review-epic-lung-busting-kitschSeveral celebs praising her as well! Quote: Neil Patrick Harris @actuallynph Β· 3h 3 hours ago katyperry just crushed it at the Super Bowl! But, umm, that was my entire opening number for the #Oscars. Soooo, uhhhh... @theacademy Quote: Katy Perry absolutely crushed it!! What a performance... So proud of you katyperry you deserve it! Quote: Anderson Cooper @andersoncooper Β· 3h 3 hours ago I thought Katy Perry was great, the dancing cartoon characters I didn't love, but what do I know. Quote: Adam Shankman @adammshankman Β· 3h 3 hours ago All BS aside, katyperry just dominated, vocally, production wise, messaging, boobs. all were as real as it gets. Bravo honey. Mic DROPPED! Quote: Tori Kelly @torikelly Β· 3h 3 hours ago KATY. LENNY. MISSY. MY HEART Quote: Chris Crocker @chriscrocker Β· 3h 3 hours ago Katy KILLED it. Sorry about it. That was fantastic. Quote: Charlamagne Tha God @cthagod Β· 3h 3 hours ago Proud owner of all 3 Katy Perry albums. All 48 songs. Been to 4 concerts cause that's what real ****** do....... Quote: Jim Beaver @jumblejim Β· 3h 3 hours ago I think Katy Perry has just been elevated to sainthood and lifted up to heaven. Quote: Becky G. @iambeckyg Β· 3h 3 hours ago Wow wow wow katyperry you never fail to amaze..... Today was the best super bowl halftime show I've ever seen. β€οΈ Quote: Britney Spears Britney Spears Β· 3h 3 hours ago That half-time show! οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ katyperry you rocked it!! #HalftimeShowKatyPerry Quote: Kevin Hart @kevinhart4real Β· 3h 3 hours ago Amazing performance by katyperry ....congrats!!!! You did that....woooooow!!!! Production was amazing and she sounded great Quote: Usain St. Leo Bolt @usainbolt Β· 3h 3 hours ago Definitely a firework katyperry #SuperBowlXLIX #HalftimeShowKatyPerry Quote: Olly Murs @ollyofficial Β· 3h 3 hours ago Ooooooh F% k yeahhhhhh katyperry what a performance!! Bit of missy & Lenny in the mix too! I'd have been one of the sharks just saying FYIοΏ½οΏ½ Quote: CHARLI XCX @charli_xcx Β· 3h 3 hours ago omg Katy and Missy just killed it - i think I just peed my pants that was so good Quote: Timbaland @timbaland Β· 3h 3 hours ago Correction Katy prince and b where the best I ever seen missy wowwwwwwwwwwwwww love my sister!!!!!!! Quote: βDinahJane @dinahjane97 Β· 3h 3 hours ago katyperry @lennykravitz @missyelliott BY FAR MY FAVORITE HALF TIME SUPER BOWL SHOW! THAT WAS AMAZING!! Quote: Jake Miller @jakemiller Β· 3h 3 hours ago Holy shitttttt Katy Perry just MURDEREDDDDDDDD it Quote: Connor Franta @connorfranta Β· 3h 3 hours ago if katy perry isnt your queen she is still your queen don't deny it Quote: Anna Kendrick @annakendrick47 Β· 3h 3 hours ago It's official. Katy Perry is magic. Quote: Mary Lambert @marylambertsing Β· 3h 3 hours ago BEST HALFTIME EVER I WILL EVEN OVERLOOK THE FACT SHE SANG I KISSED A GIRL WITH A DUDE Quote: k.d. lang @kdlang Β· 4h 4 hours ago Half time οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ katyperry @lennykravitz @missyelliott A triumph. Perfect Super Bowl entertainment. βοΈ%1000οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Quote: Austin Mahone @austinmahone Β· 4h 4 hours ago Katy Perry is murdering it οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ 5 albums in the top 20 on iTunes. The general public has spoken. Brava Katheryn!
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 2, 2015 0:29:48 GMT -5
I just realized this, but Katy's first outfit looked inspired by fire. Lenny Kravitz plays Cinna in The Hunger Games. He is the designer that creates Katniss' fire-inspired outfits. Does this makes Katy Perry a tribute from District 12? Also, at katyperry being a Pulse member.
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Post by foxxden on Feb 2, 2015 1:13:45 GMT -5
There were some great parts but besides the opening and mayybbbbeee parts of "Firework" it just didn't feel epic enough for a Super Bowl Half Time Show. The "Teenage Dream"/"California Girls" part with the dancing sharks was by far the worst and was better suited for the Teen Choice Awards than a milestone event like this. It just looked cheap. I'm just grateful it wasn't Taylor Swift. It was so good seeing Missy on stage though and it looks like she is getting more press and doing better on iTunes so good for her!
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Post by kanimal on Feb 2, 2015 1:47:28 GMT -5
All Super Bowl performers are required to lip sync. To get around it, most pre-record live vocals prior to the show. So, technically, Katy (as well as Missy, Lenny, and whoever else performed in prior years) were performing live vocals, however lipping to those live vocals. What we heard were recordings of Katy standing in front of a mic in a recording studio with little to nothing done to touch it up. Why she doesn't sound like that live usually is because Katy bounces around stage like crazy, and it's difficult to keep proper breath control and sing as well while doing that as opposed to just standing and singing. Sure, a few artists can do it (looking at you, P!nk), but Katy cannot very well. I was a bit surprised at points when it was painfully obvious that she was lipping, though. Like, you would think artists would have a better handle at doing that if they regularly record music videos... On a side note, do we know why NFL/Pepsi/whoever requires the performers to lip sync? And don't they even go as far as to get the instrumentalists to pretend to play rather than actually play as well? Edit: Oh, and I got this strange feeling while watching Katy perform that next year the performer will be Taylor Swift. Are you sure about the lip syncing thing? In his apology/explanation letter after last year's debacle, Flea said that the instruments were pre-recorded but that the vocals were live (and not live in the way you're using it - live as in, Kiedis and Bruno were actually singing into the microphone). Recording the instrumentals is a failsafe. There are too many sources of error in a setting like this -- and too many consequences of those errors. Perfect instrumentals also really help to guide the vocalist.
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Post by Joe1240 on Feb 2, 2015 2:36:04 GMT -5
It was a nice halftime show. Katy did good with what she had to work with. Different type of halftime show compared to years past. So next year's Halftime show could be anybody,I wouldn't be surprised if it is Bon Jovi or somebody like 1D or Justin Bieber. New Kids On The Block and *NSYNC were part of halftime shows in the past. Taylor could do it in the future when the Diet Coke deal ends. and this what I posted in the Taylor Swift "1989" thread about Taylor and the Super Bowl issue Super Bowl Exclusive: Pepsi's Adam Harter on Hiring Katy Perry, Considering Taylor Swift & MoreArticles Super Bowl 2015 News By Andrew Hampp | January 30, 2015 6:00 PM EST When vetting talent, how crucial is an artist's relationship with a competing beverage brand for consideration. -- i.e., could Taylor Swift, a Diet Coke spokesperson, ever be considered under Pepsi's sponsorship?For a performance as big as the Pepsi Super Bowl halftime show, every major artist is in the consideration set. I think competitive relationships are one thing to be considered, but there's several other elements that we look at as well. It's not . www.billboard.com/articles/events/super-bowl-2015/6458120/super-bowl-katy-perry-taylor-swift-pepsi
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 2, 2015 8:07:36 GMT -5
Missy stole the show
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 2, 2015 8:14:35 GMT -5
We expect fun, cartoony stuff from Katheryn, and that's what she delivered. I prefer 2012's performance from Her Madgesty, but that goes without saying. (which the former looked to for inspiration- she is a big fan, after all). And, yes, it seems most acts lip-sync- some to album vocals, some to newly recorded "live" vocals. Nothing new. It really did become the Missy E. show for a time, didn't it?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 2, 2015 8:34:12 GMT -5
which the former looked to for inspiration How do you know though?
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Feb 2, 2015 9:26:13 GMT -5
Any time a artist is performing at a huge nationally televised event like this, the vocal is going to be lip synced. It is the only way to not have the sound reverbing through the whole stadium and sounding truly awful on the broadcast. When millions of people are watching, you need everything to be perfect or else its bad for the brand, not only of the artist, but also Pepsi and the NFL. It's really not a big deal at all.
This morning at work all anybody is talking about is Missy Elliot though. She was definitely the highlight
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Post by foxxden on Feb 2, 2015 9:33:38 GMT -5
LMAO at anyone who truly believes Katy sang live. These comments are funny - "she lipsynced so perfectly - AMAZING PERFORMANCE BEST HALFTIME SHOW EVAAAAA" it's crazy that "lipsyncing perfectly" has come to mean incredible performance
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Feb 2, 2015 10:00:12 GMT -5
NBC released ratings for the Super Bowl overall. 49.7 rating, which is the highest ever for the game. I would say a vast majority of those people watched the halftime show as well
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Post by kanimal on Feb 2, 2015 10:11:32 GMT -5
NBC released ratings for the Super Bowl overall. 49.7 rating, which is the highest ever for the game. I would say a vast majority of those people watched the halftime show as well For sure. The halftime show can often be one of the top-rated segments on the show and has recently been outperforming the average rating for the broadcast (last year's did 115.3 million compared to the 111.5 million average for the whole game). This year's might be SLIGHTLY less dominant (relative to the overall show) than last year's since the game was so close, but she should still be looking at a halftime viewership in the 110 million+ range.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Feb 2, 2015 10:12:59 GMT -5
Are you sure about the lip syncing thing? In his apology/explanation letter after last year's debacle, Flea said that the instruments were pre-recorded but that the vocals were live (and not live in the way you're using it - live as in, Kiedis and Bruno were actually singing into the microphone). Recording the instrumentals is a failsafe. There are too many sources of error in a setting like this -- and too many consequences of those errors. Perfect instrumentals also really help to guide the vocalist. I had the same understanding -- that pre-recorded instrumentals are required. This is generally the case at awards shows, as well. As for live vocals, well, I don't think it's a requirement. Bruce Springsteen wasn't lip-syncing when he headlined the Super Bowl halftime show, was he? I understand that lip-syncing is recommended because of the challenging conditions in the venue. Rickey Minor said as much when talking about Jennifer Hudson lip-syncing the national anthem at the Super Bowl in 2009. On the other hand, Carrie Underwood refused to lip sync the anthem the year after, and the anthem has been sung live every year since then, right? Christina Aguilera and Kelly Clarkson were both certainly live in 2011 and 2012. I get that the Super Bowl stadium environment is challenging for a live vocal. I also understand that there is going to be disagreement on the point I'm about to make because people have very different ideas about what the halftime show at the Super Bowl should be. But I would much prefer the excitement/tension of a live vocal performance to a production so ambitious that it sacrifices live vocals for live-to-tape. As I mentioned above, I just prefer the sense of immediacy that comes with an actual live performance. Beyonce and Missy are two examples of artists who were able to bring a sense of immediacy despite significant portions of their performances being lip-synced, so I guess the absolute A+ grade performers might get a pass from me if they worked the stage properly. But I would have been just as happy if not happier if both let dancers around them do the work while they delivered live vocals. To be honest, a major reason that I've become less of a pop fan over the years is that I just can't get behind the lip-syncing trend, or the trend of heavy backing tracks covering for the lead vocal during live performances. I dislike the pretense of singing with a mic in hand if one is not actually singing. Spectacle is fine, but the truly great performers figure out a way to be live and in the moment amidst the spectacle, and to command the stage even with spectacle going on around them. What I've noticed with both Katy and Taylor lately is that they have chosen productions too big for them, and the result has been performances where they are chasing choreography and trying to keep up with the spectacle instead of owning the performance with the personalities that are at the core of why they are both superstars. There's a sense of distance from their songs as a result, and the lack of live vocals has only enhanced that distance. So personally? Give me less production in favor of a Super Bowl halftime performer who can command both the camera and the stage while delivering a real live vocal. If that means returning to veterans with the catalog to get a stadium and at least one generation of viewers singing along over the newer artists, so be it. If it means shifting from pop spectacle to a veteran rapper/legacy rock band or a country/rock crossover performance, at least for a year or two, that will be just fine with me.
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Post by surfy on Feb 2, 2015 10:45:24 GMT -5
I don't blame her for lip syncing, but anyone defending her should get a dose of reality and go watch that Grammy performance!
Anyways, I think that Dark Horse set was pretty amazing! Definitely good from a visuals standpoint.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 2, 2015 11:01:06 GMT -5
Missy with a Top 5, Top 10 and Top 15 placement on iTunes...
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Post by ILLUSION on Feb 2, 2015 12:13:23 GMT -5
Um, why is no one mentioning JLo!? I think her Halftime Show would be KILLER.
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Post by nikkominaj on Feb 2, 2015 13:16:39 GMT -5
Can we just stop and talk about how Missy has 3 songs in the top 10 of itunes
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Post by popbox on Feb 2, 2015 14:19:16 GMT -5
Lose Control has always been sooo underrated. That song was and still is a total jam. Words can't express how elated I am to see it in the top ten on iTunes. And of course Work It and Get Ur Freak On, but those get a lot more of their deserved dues.
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Post by kanimal on Feb 2, 2015 14:23:33 GMT -5
Um, why is no one mentioning JLo!? I think her Halftime Show would be KILLER. She's a phenomenal entertainer, but she just doesn't have the songs or relevance (not a legend like Bruce, not a hot pop commodity like Katy or Bruno).
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One of my friends is a huge fan of Madonna, Beyonce, and Katy (in that order), but he felt Katy's performance was superior to Madonna and Beyonce's on the basis that he felt she was just having fun and "doing what she would do" versus the other two trying to put on such a massive spectacle. He felt that Madonna's performance in 2012 was mediocre, desperate and attention-seeking and was a waste with subpar vocals and felt too contrived and staged (on a sidenote: he feels that anything and everything she is doing now is destroying her legacy and feels that she should have retired after American Life because he felt she backpedaled too much and did what she was firmly against when she censored the "American Life" video and that changed her forever). He felt Beyonce did a great job with hers but didn't care for how it was just like one of her concerts. He liked that one much more though because she delivered in the vocals and dancing department. He loved Katy's performance despite the so-so vocals, but given that she has never been about delivering a perfectly polished performance and she can be a little messy sometimes, he thinks that is far more genuine and honest than what others did.
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Post by kanimal on Feb 2, 2015 17:02:06 GMT -5
Most-watched halftime show ever with 118.5 million. It outdrew the game average (114.4 million) and was the third-highest-rated segment of the night (behind 10-10:10 and 9:30-10PM).
Last year's did 115.3.
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Post by ILLUSION on Feb 2, 2015 17:09:14 GMT -5
Um, why is no one mentioning JLo!? I think her Halftime Show would be KILLER. She's a phenomenal entertainer, but she just doesn't have the songs or relevance (not a legend like Bruce, not a hot pop commodity like Katy or Bruno). Please. She's arguably the most popular Latin singer of all-time. She had crazy hits in the 90s and popular songs in the past as well (On the Floor, I'm Into You, etc...). She's very relevant still,
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Post by Wolfy on Feb 2, 2015 19:52:32 GMT -5
She's a phenomenal entertainer, but she just doesn't have the songs or relevance (not a legend like Bruce, not a hot pop commodity like Katy or Bruno). Please. She's arguably the most popular Latin singer of all-time. She had crazy hits in the 90s and popular songs in the past as well (On the Floor, I'm Into You, etc...). She's very relevant still, Worldwide, that would be Shakira. US, JLo. Shakira has performed at the World Cup 3 times. That event is a worldwide event, it suits her better. The Super Bowl is a US event, so I suppose JLo would be the pick for that. I wouldn't compare them though. JLo plays the diva role, Shakira is more of a singer-songwriter type. The only thing they have in common is that they are both Latin. Shakira could put on an amazing halftime. Check out her NBA halftime show:
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Post by ILLUSION on Feb 2, 2015 20:09:13 GMT -5
Please. She's arguably the most popular Latin singer of all-time. She had crazy hits in the 90s and popular songs in the past as well (On the Floor, I'm Into You, etc...). She's very relevant still, Worldwide, that would be Shakira. US, JLo. Shakira has performed at the World Cup 3 times. That event is a worldwide event, it suits her better. The Super Bowl is a US event, so I suppose JLo would be the pick for that. I wouldn't compare them though. JLo plays the diva role, Shakira is more of a singer-songwriter type. The only thing they have in common is that they are both Latin. OK, right now Shakira is more successful than JLo worldwide. But ask anyone, who had a larger impact on the Latin music world? JLo is definitely the answer. JLo is also known for her over-the-top dance-filled performances. I think her performance would be incredibly entertaining and GOOD!
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Post by Wolfy on Feb 2, 2015 20:12:00 GMT -5
Worldwide, that would be Shakira. US, JLo. Shakira has performed at the World Cup 3 times. That event is a worldwide event, it suits her better. The Super Bowl is a US event, so I suppose JLo would be the pick for that. I wouldn't compare them though. JLo plays the diva role, Shakira is more of a singer-songwriter type. The only thing they have in common is that they are both Latin. OK, right now Shakira is more successful than JLo worldwide. But ask anyone, who had a larger impact on the Latin music world? JLo is definitely the answer. Ask someone that's informed on what both have done worldwide and the answer is clear. Most people that would say JLo are not informed well on what goes on outside the U.S. Ask anyone that lives in a Latin country and you'll see what they say. When Shakira's baby was born it was breaking news in Colombia lol. They interrupted what people were watching for the "breaking news." She's that big in Latin America. Or look at the social media numbers. Shakira posted a pregnant picture On Facebook and in 24 hours it became the most liked picture by a famous person of all time, taking the record from a picture that Obama posted when he won the election. That alone shows her worldwide appeal. There's also her humanitarian work. She's built schools all over Latin America. Obama appointed her to his cabinet (Hispanic education advisory commission) . She's slowly been earning people's respect. Music wise, Jlo's Spanish music has flopped. Her impact on the Latin music scene is nonexistent. JLo is also known for her over-the-top dance-filled performances. I think her performance would be incredibly entertaining and GOOD! Lets talk facts here. Great performers have huge tours to back them up. Shakira has done 5 worldwide stadium / arena tours. JLo has never done a major solo tour. She's currently in talks to perform in Vegas. I love JLo, but it's clear which one is a bigger touring draw. Shakira sold out the national stadium in Chile for four of her tours (1999, 2003, 2006, 2011), the same stadium Madonna uses when she goes to Chile. Her first tour, Pies Descalzos, was in 1996. She's a major draw in Latin America.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Feb 2, 2015 22:42:07 GMT -5
Why in the world is Shakira being brought up in this thread? Lol
Can we try to bring the conversation back to the topic at hand? If you are so inclined, please make a new thread discussing Shakira's Super Bowl prospects.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Feb 2, 2015 22:43:30 GMT -5
Also I love that Missy Elliott benefited the most from this.
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