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Post by jdanton2 on Aug 3, 2015 16:46:55 GMT -5
looking forward to the colab with Jordin Sparks . i usually hate most Country but have liked some of his r&b influenced songs .
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 4, 2015 1:00:01 GMT -5
I'm blaming both of them. Both can go to pop and take FGL with them sorry FGL fans but come on they're not country really at all. Funny, I don't see you saying the same about Kelsea Ballerini or Cassadee Pope, both whom make heavily pop-infused country. Maybe they should go too?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 4, 2015 1:18:33 GMT -5
I'm blaming both of them. Both can go to pop and take FGL with them sorry FGL fans but come on they're not country really at all. Funny, I don't see you saying the same about Kelsea Ballerini or Cassadee Pope, both whom make heavily pop-infused country. Maybe they should go too? Kelsea and Cassadee have poppier music than some of the other ladies, but let's not be delusional and act like either of them are even relatively close to the planet that Thomas Rhett is apparently on.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 4, 2015 1:27:15 GMT -5
Funny, I don't see you saying the same about Kelsea Ballerini or Cassadee Pope, both whom make heavily pop-infused country. Maybe they should go too? Kelsea and Cassadee have poppier music than some of the other ladies, but let's not be delusional and act like either of them are even relatively close to the planet that Thomas Rhett is apparently on. I'm not being "delusional". A lot of this is a matter of opinion, but it's not like Kelsea and Cassadee make traditional country either. My point is, if you're going to accuse certain artists for leaning Pop and say they should leave the genre, then be fair about it and say even the artists you may adore should leave too. Some on here, myself included, think "Crash And Burn" is just as fitting to the country genre like "Little Toy Guns" was or any song that Pope sings. And if "were not going to be delusional", let's not pretend like Kelsea Ballerini is anymore country than Florida Georgia Line. To single out certain artists of the Pop leaning infusion and say they should leave while others should stay is either hypocritical or in this case sexist because only the male artists were mentioned.
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Post by rsmatto on Aug 4, 2015 1:29:54 GMT -5
It very well could be because both Raylatch98 and Indulgecountry lean towards female artists more than males that their opinions are more 'open' to those songs hitting country than the male singers. But that's just the perception that is derived from the above posts.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Aug 4, 2015 1:59:00 GMT -5
Personally, I find "Crash and Burn" to be as country as lots of Ballerini's stuff, but maybe that's just me.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 4, 2015 2:03:29 GMT -5
Kelsea and Cassadee have poppier music than some of the other ladies, but let's not be delusional and act like either of them are even relatively close to the planet that Thomas Rhett is apparently on. I'm not being "delusional". A lot of this is a matter of opinion, but it's not like Kelsea and Cassadee make traditional country either. My point is, if you're going to accuse certain artists for leaning Pop and say they should leave the genre, then be fair about it and say even the artists you may adore should leave too. Some on here, myself included, think "Crash And Burn" is just as fitting to the country genre like "Little Toy Guns" was or any song that Pope sings. And if "were not going to be delusional", let's not pretend like Kelsea Ballerini is anymore country than Florida Georgia Line. To single out certain artists of the Pop leaning infusion and say they should leave while others should stay is either hypocritical or in this case sexist because only the male artists were mentioned. Did you read a different write-up for the Thomas Rhett album than what was posted on the last page? Cause based on that, I'm pretty confident in saying that Kelsea, Cassadee, and Carrie are all "countrier" than he is (apparently he doesn't even want to pretend to be "country," it seems). None of them have remotely the kind of off-the-wall influences Thomas Rhett's album is apparently going for nor do any of them collaborate with artists like Lunch Money Lewis, and I get a sense of respect for the genre from each and every one of them, even if they record music that isn't up Kacey Musgraves' alley. Heck, his "Get Me Some of That" doesn't even fully respect women in its lyrics, let alone country music. And I find absolutely nothing fitting about "Crash and Burn" being played on country radio either with the way that song was done up in the studio (there's no way I'd ever in a million years guess Chris Stapleton wrote that if I didn't already know better)... but whatever, lol.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 4, 2015 2:36:16 GMT -5
^Well to be fair, the write-up did specifically mention a standout country love song on Rhett's new album, and didn't use the words Pop to describe it. Rhett also has at least recorded one pretty traditional sounding song in "Beer With Jesus", which is more than Kelsea has recorded (for the record, I like Kelsea and do think she fits the genre well enough). But anyway, this is getting away from what I was initially trying to point out. One poster singles out certain artists for being Pop leaning and said they should leave the genre, but didn't mention others who often garner the same criticisms. If someone said they hated republicans because they support issue X, and that certain ones need to quit politics while supporting other republicans who still support issue X, it'd be hypocritical. I don't care if you don't like Pop leaning country, it's totally understandable. But don't be a hypocrite and support people committing the same offense you're tired of.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 4, 2015 11:19:53 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of Kelsea's music but pointing out how uncountry her music is just to prove how Thomas Rhett is not alone, by calling other posters hypocrites in the process, seems to be a good way to derail a thread and cause a tangent of posts that ends up not relating to "Crash And Burn" in any way. I totally understand some peoples frustrations with uncalled for bashing of certain artists (and I'm on those folks side) but I just hate seeing bickering back and forth about how one artist is more "uncountry" than another artist.
I'm not saying anyone was wrong in pointing out what they did but I would love to get back to talking about "Crash And Burn" and not other posters. :)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 2:51:26 GMT -5
What?? I kinda strongly dislike Jordin Sparks... argh! Oh well, let's hope it's good. The review kinda sounds like there will be country, just in smaller doses. I listen to most genres, and am a big fan of Thomas Rhett, so if it turns out to be a mix of darkwave and hard metal, I will still be able to enjoy it lol
As for Crash and Burn, any of you more knowledgable people, think this song has a real chance to get a number one? I'd love for it to get that number one!
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Post by dajire4 on Aug 6, 2015 4:44:24 GMT -5
^I think C&B will definitely get to #1. By the time Thomas gets close to the penthouse ZBB, Sam Hunt and Dustin Lynch will already be on their way down. I guess Chris Janson or Brett Eldredge could post a threat, but I think each one of them will get their turn at the top
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Post by lyhom on Aug 6, 2015 5:05:03 GMT -5
kinda late but you know, I don't mind that he's trying new stuff and it might turn out well, but man he should just say that he's going pop
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Post by samsager3 on Aug 6, 2015 9:04:56 GMT -5
kinda late but you know, I don't mind that he's trying new stuff and it might turn out well, but man he should just say that he's going pop Why would he do that when underwood and lambert and so many females get away with the same offenses. Heck if that's the case chase rice should've said he was going pop a while ago so no it's not just a female thing. And as far as pop I have heard country from the 80s that has a simmar feel to it that this does maybe not exact melody but a similar feel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 9:58:50 GMT -5
kinda late but you know, I don't mind that he's trying new stuff and it might turn out well, but man he should just say that he's going pop Why would he do that when underwood and lambert and so many females get away with the same offenses. Heck if that's the case chase rice should've said he was going pop a while ago so no it's not just a female thing. And as far as pop I have heard country from the 80s that has a simmar feel to it that this does maybe not exact melody but a similar feel. I'm pretty sure Carrie Underwood and Miranda Lambert won't have duets with Jordan Sparks or "Lunch Money Lewis" on their next albums though....
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 19, 2015 12:43:38 GMT -5
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Post by phil1996 on Aug 27, 2015 22:12:28 GMT -5
I still like this a fair amount, pretty catchy..
..but oh my. He just released a song called "Vacation" to iTunes and its in "Donkey" territory....one of the worst songs I have ever heard. Obnoxious sounding vocals, lyrics my dog could write....sounds like a ripoff of Low Rider by War. Not even remotely close to country. Makes "a Breakup In a Small Town look like a country song.
The chorus is
"Heyyyy lets party like we on vacation, heyyy lets party like we on vacation, got my toes up in the sand, cold one in my hand, toes up in the sand, cold one in my hand, heyyyy lets party like we on vacation"
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 27, 2015 22:15:14 GMT -5
Yeah just listened to it as well, and it's seriously not anything remotely country. I didn't hate it, but It better not be a country single. It kind of sounds like a Macklemore song or something.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 27, 2015 23:08:30 GMT -5
..but oh my. He just released a song called "Vacation" to iTunes and its in "Donkey" territory....one of the worst songs I have ever heard. There's probably numerous singer/songwriters scattered thought Nashville saying "if that's all it takes, then where's my recording contract?", after listening to that song. My goodness, I'm all for fun songs but can we at the very least have standards? Forget to the fact it's a pop song (literally, nothing country about it in every way, shape and form), it's just a horrible song. "Donkey" was supposed to be a joke and therefore I cut it a little more slack than most here but "Vacation" is atrocious and what's even more atrocious is that song (along with "Crash And Burn") being marketed to the country genre. I know Thomas has been pretty popular lately with many fans, mainly the demo that country radio is bending over backwards for the past couple years, but his entire musical catalog has been pretty terrible to me.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 27, 2015 23:38:08 GMT -5
..but oh my. He just released a song called "Vacation" to iTunes and its in "Donkey" territory....one of the worst songs I have ever heard. There's probably numerous singer/songwriters scattered thought Nashville saying "if that's all it takes, then where's my recording contract?", after listening to that song. My goodness, I'm all for fun songs but can we at the very least have standards? Forget to the fact it's a pop song (literally, nothing country about it in every way, shape and form), it's just a horrible song. "Donkey" was supposed to be a joke and therefore I cut it a little more slack than most here but "Vacation" is atrocious and what's even more atrocious is that song (along with "Crash And Burn") being marketed to the country genre.I know Thomas has been pretty popular lately with many fans, mainly the demo that country radio is bending over backwards for the past couple years, but his entire musical catalog has been pretty terrible to me. In all fairness, we don't know if that song is actually going to be marketed towards the country market. He is considered a "Country Artist", but it doesn't mean every song he writes has to be a country song (much like ZBB's recent album). For all we know, it could just be a fun song that he wanted to include as an album track. Time will tell if it actually gets a country release though, and I'm hoping it doesn't.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 27, 2015 23:47:38 GMT -5
There's probably numerous singer/songwriters scattered thought Nashville saying "if that's all it takes, then where's my recording contract?", after listening to that song. My goodness, I'm all for fun songs but can we at the very least have standards? Forget to the fact it's a pop song (literally, nothing country about it in every way, shape and form), it's just a horrible song. "Donkey" was supposed to be a joke and therefore I cut it a little more slack than most here but "Vacation" is atrocious and what's even more atrocious is that song (along with "Crash And Burn") being marketed to the country genre.I know Thomas has been pretty popular lately with many fans, mainly the demo that country radio is bending over backwards for the past couple years, but his entire musical catalog has been pretty terrible to me. In all fairness, we don't know if that song is actually going to be marketed towards the country market. He is considered a "Country Artist", but it doesn't mean every song he writes has to be a country song (much like ZBB's recent album). For all we know, it could just be a fun song that he wanted to include as an album track. Time will tell if it actually gets a country release though, and I'm hoping it doesn't. He's on a Nashville based label, with an album that will be on the "Country Album Charts." I'm not saying "Vacation" is going to country radio (I really don't think it would do anything at radio anyhow) but my main point was how terrible the song was. Most of the songs Thomas seems to record aren't country, so him putting pop songs on his "country" album seems to be the norm. If Thomas wants to officially announce he's going to pop and leaving country then that would be okay by me, personally. "Crash And Burn" isn't country music in the slightest either (instrumentation, production, vocally) and that song is heading to #1 on country radio, in relatively easy fashion. Right now, country radio has fully embraced Thomas' pop music, so I don't see him going anywhere as long as his music is still being played on this radio format. Only time will tell where Thomas' musical endeavors takes him in the future.
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Post by dajross6 on Aug 27, 2015 23:56:59 GMT -5
When I first heard Crash and Burn I thought it had no place on country radio, but there are definite elements of country in the song and I think in today's radio climate, it fits. Especially the voice.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Aug 28, 2015 0:33:12 GMT -5
I still like this a fair amount, pretty catchy.. ..but oh my. He just released a song called "Vacation" to iTunes and its in "Donkey" territory....one of the worst songs I have ever heard. Obnoxious sounding vocals, lyrics my dog could write....sounds like a ripoff of Low Rider by War. Not even remotely close to country. Makes "a Breakup In a Small Town look like a country song. The chorus is "Heyyyy lets party like we on vacation, heyyy lets party like we on vacation, got my toes up in the sand, cold one in my hand, toes up in the sand, cold one in my hand, heyyyy lets party like we on vacation" Guess what?!?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 7:05:27 GMT -5
Holy crap.....between this and Danielle Bradbery's new one I think I just found my two least favorite songs this year! Congrats Sam Hunt, you're only third!
In all honesty though, and I mean no disrespect to his fans when I say this, but nothing about this guy seems genuine, he always seems like he's cashing in on a trend. His debut album was chock full of bro-country stuff, the only thing different being the atrocious, "Beer With Jesus". Now that Sam Hunt is in the game I'm sure Thomas thought, "well hey, I like Bruno Mars, and have already covered a song by him, so why not try a Pop song out?". This leads to Crash & Burn, and now this pretty little number. I'm sorry but I don't see how a trend chaser is one of the fastest rising stars right now.
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Post by mdouty on Aug 28, 2015 7:54:56 GMT -5
Somehow "Vacation" has 14 songwriters LOL
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Post by LBTrocks on Aug 28, 2015 11:06:34 GMT -5
Somehow "Vacation" has 14 songwriters LOL what I actually like the song, but I mean... it doesn't sound like something that would take anywhere near 14 songwriters to create lol.
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Post by sixofone on Aug 28, 2015 11:44:49 GMT -5
Somehow "Vacation" has 14 songwriters LOL what I actually like the song, but I mean... it doesn't sound like something that would take anywhere near 14 songwriters to create lol. Most of the songwriters listed are the members of the band War and the producers of "Low Rider."
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Post by Kentucky25 on Aug 28, 2015 12:52:09 GMT -5
(sigh)...as one of the Pulse members who usually defends bro-country artists, I'd like to with "Vacation", but I couldn't even make it through the preview to find some good in it...want my positive spin on it? Go download the new Jana Kramer song "Circles" or Alabama's "Come Find Me".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 12:58:35 GMT -5
I'm sure the writers of "Low Rider" are thrilled they are going to be making money off that pile of bullcrap.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 20:32:38 GMT -5
Universal hate for Vacation! I like it.
Anyway, this seems to be at #3 in Billboard, so close to that number one! Go Thommy, you can do it!!!
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 31, 2015 20:36:55 GMT -5
Anyway, this seems to be at #3 in Billboard, so close to that number one! Go Thommy, you can do it!!! Don't fret, "Crash And Burn" will hit #1...just like almost every song that enters the top 5 did before it...and just like almost every song that enters the top 5 will do after it.
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