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Post by rowdawg21 on Dec 10, 2007 11:48:30 GMT -5
LOL! I was holding back the welcome wagon. My sign would have said "Welcome back, ProudNavyMom!" though. The different usernames are hard to keep track of. We would also have accepted "GLO," "LLYWD," or "Nursie." :) Maybe now she won't contact me on AIM for a few days until she gets banned again.
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Post by Jonsolo on Dec 10, 2007 12:54:37 GMT -5
LOL! I was holding back the welcome wagon. My sign would have said "Welcome back, ProudNavyMom!" though. The different usernames are hard to keep track of. We would also have accepted "GLO," "LLYWD," or "Nursie." :) Maybe now she won't contact me on AIM for a few days until she gets banned again. That was my first assumption too, that we had a return of everyone's favorite Tim-nut. But that post of theirs seemed a little too articulate and non-fanactical, just to make me wonder if it's actually her. Now if they'd have just inserted several grammatical and spelling errors...
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Post by Marv on Dec 10, 2007 21:14:25 GMT -5
It's not all that surprising that Tim has three CDs among the top 100; country radio has gained lots of new and much younger listeners over the past 3 1/2 years thanks to artists such as Keith Urban, Gretchen Wilson, Big & Rich, Rascal Flatts, Carrie Underwood, Taylor Swift & Kellie Pickler.
Those 'newbies' to country radio will undoubtedly hear lots of his songs from the past decade due to his stranglehold of the 'Power Gold Charts' that they've never heard before, and will undoubtedly want to purchase some of the CDs which contained many of those smash hits, and in particular all of his CDs since 'All I Want' in 1996.
Another reason why I'm really disappointed that 'Suspicions' was chosen as a single as opposed to 'Whiskey & You' or 'Train #10' is because those are new songs and not remakes, and if someone tunes into their local country station and hears the original version by Eddie Rabbitt, or any of his other smashes from the early eighties, they might decide to go buy one of his CDs as well, which is great for country music as well.
'Suspicions' is a great song, but Tim really 'doesn't bring anything to the table' with his version of it, IMHO.
Contrast that to Martina McBride's flat-out exhilirating version of 'Rose Garden', which did great justice to the original, and should have been #1 for at least a month IMHO.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 10, 2007 23:16:51 GMT -5
Contrast that to Martina McBride's flat-out exhilirating version of 'Rose Garden', which did great justice to the original, and should have been #1 for at least a month IMHO. How do you do justice to a countrypolitan-meets-disco era song that wasn't all that good the first time around? By repeating every 1970s aspect of it, save for the echo echo echo echo?
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Post by drock89 on Dec 11, 2007 10:54:50 GMT -5
Contrast that to Martina McBride's flat-out exhilirating version of 'Rose Garden', which did great justice to the original, and should have been #1 for at least a month IMHO. How do you do justice to a countrypolitan-meets-disco era song that wasn't all that good the first time around? By repeating every 1970s aspect of it, save for the echo echo echo echo? I surprisingly disagree with you here, TPH. Martina did a wonderful job on "Rose Garden" and the entire Timeless album. Justice served on a silver platter.. amen!
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Post by Zazie on Dec 11, 2007 11:51:39 GMT -5
I'm with 10 Pound on this one. I love the Timeless album, but its worst song was Rose Garden by a mile. It's one thing to pay tribute to a great song. It's another thing to copy a weak one. (And I like a lot of countrypolitan, at least the Ray Price style of that sub-genre. Can't say I like a lot of disco.)
Also I'm in favor of a new rule -- if you want to bold words, be sure to spell them correctly. But then, I'm aware that many posters on this board aren't interested in spelling right.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Dec 11, 2007 12:55:00 GMT -5
Ummm , I dont believe Ten Pound was speaking of Martinas record ya'll. I believe the disco comment was about Eddie Rabbitts Version of Suspicions....and if it is , I totally agree with him.
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Post by Zazie on Dec 11, 2007 13:30:07 GMT -5
Ummm , I dont believe Ten Pound was speaking of Martinas record ya'll. I believe the disco comment was about Eddie Rabbitts Version of Suspicions....and if it is , I totally agree with him. He quoted the Marv comment about Martina above his own comment. He used Marv's language about doing justice. Maybe you know more about Ten Pound's evil ways than I do, but I've been a student of the Hammer for years now and I think I've got him figured out.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Dec 11, 2007 14:27:06 GMT -5
Eh, maybe your right I didnt see the quote. I would still equate the disco and echo to Rabbitt. He was quite fond of Reverb on his records....
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Dec 11, 2007 14:38:08 GMT -5
He quoted the Marv comment about Martina above his own comment. He used Marv's language about doing justice. I was indeed speaking about Martina's record. And yes, I'm aware that Eddie Rabbitt was fond of disco beats and reverb (just about everyone was in the late 70s-early 80s), but I've only heard four or five of his songs that I know of. Some songs should just stay in that era -- I haven't yet decided if Suspicions is one of them, since I've only heard either version once. Maybe you know more about Ten Pound's evil ways than I do, but I've been a student of the Hammer for years now and I think I've got him figured out. I'm thrilled.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Dec 11, 2007 14:45:38 GMT -5
(Bows)
...I stand corrected.....
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Post by BlueAcoustic on Dec 11, 2007 15:18:59 GMT -5
Re: Tim McGraw - "Suspicions" I think it is great and I think as usual Tim has a pulse on what his public wants to hear, maybe he will revive the interest in more of Eddie Rabbit's music...he was a great artist that didn't live long enough to get his due recognition. I completely agree... The main reason I like this song is because of Eddie Rabbitt and the fact that it may bring him some of the recognition that he deserves. He was overlooked as an artist in the 80's & 90's and is still overlooked today.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Dec 14, 2007 11:51:29 GMT -5
Wow. I love this now.
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Post by somebody60 on Dec 14, 2007 23:45:37 GMT -5
While I'm not sure I would say I love it, this song has grown on me extremely fast (faster than any song in a while). I now really like this song after learning some of the words (and of course, all songs sound better in a car than on the computer, which is where I first heard the song).
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Post by Marv on Dec 21, 2007 21:58:59 GMT -5
I certainly don't know how 'Rose Garden' could have been interpreted as a disco song; I've always been an aficionado of top-notch songwriters, and Joe South (Walk A Mile In My Shoes/Games People Play, etc.) is very high on my list.
With superb songwriters such as South, Mac Davis, Tom T. Hall, & Kris Kristofferson finding success at top 40 radio in the late sixties & early seventies, I always looked forward to hearing new music from them, whether they or someone else recorded the song or not.
I just like Eddie Rabbit's version of 'Suspicions' substantially more than this version, although this will undoubtedly be a smash merely because of the singer.
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Post by rowdawg21 on Jan 4, 2008 1:02:06 GMT -5
Tim has seven songs in the iTunes Top 100 Country Songs (including "Don't Take The Girl" and "When The Stars Go Blue"), but "Suspicions" is not among them. I find that really surprising.
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Post by Marv on Jan 4, 2008 10:56:04 GMT -5
That tells me that judging by the matter in which 'Suspicions' is flying up the charts, it's doing so almost solely because of who Tim McGraw is (ditto for 'Shiftwork', which is an equally underwhelming tune IMHO), and the PDs out there will play anything that either of them records, regardless of quality or merit.
The fact that these two tunes have sailed past the exceptional 'Small Town Southern Man' is as depressing as depressing can be; Mr. Jackson's masterpiece is among the very best songs on the radio right now.
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Post by tsr on Jan 5, 2008 21:53:36 GMT -5
I really don't like this song right now... and what upsets me is that it will go #1 just because it's Tim... sorry if someone has already said this.
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Post by zaclord on Jan 5, 2008 22:54:37 GMT -5
^i agree... i dont like this song AT ALL! i dont think it will go #1 though, just top 5 (carrie/kenny new singles will be ahead of him and maybe some other songs, preventing his #1 status)
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Post by dboulton on Jan 7, 2008 22:12:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised how the common wisdom about this song was that it was lame and posed no chart threat to other artists hoping to reach the top around the time this will most likely peak. I do not have the album, but if this is really one of the worst songs on it, I just may. I have only heard it a few times on radio so far, but I think it's decent - it doesn't sound very country to me, but he sings it very nicely and it's a good song to start with. It certainly makes my top 5 current singles list (not an easy task in a chart that includes the sumptuous Small Town Southern Man, a great Jack Ingram song, a great Shooter Jennings song, and a solid Toby effort), and is infinitely better than the tripe that Kenny/George, RF, Carrie, et al have out right now.
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Post by zaclord on Jan 8, 2008 16:12:06 GMT -5
i 100% disagree with you (no offense). this song is definitely my least favorite song on radio at the moment (tie with God Must Be Busy). i never thought that it would not be a threat to other songs, but i did say that it will only be a threat because Tim McGraw is singing it. by looking at the other songs that you like, it says that you have a totally different musical opinion than me because i dislike the shooter and toby songs and jacks new song is ok, although i do like alans new one. and IMO kenny and RF's new ones, even though i dont like them that much, are a heck of a lot better than Suspicions (although every time i hear kennys new one, i like it more and more). and carrie wipes the floor with this song, IMO of course but it seems to be most peoples opinions here
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Post by Zazie on Jan 8, 2008 16:27:46 GMT -5
Who thinks Tim's songs are automatic #1's anymore? I think that part of his career is over now. Most of his songs chart pretty well, but just look at his recent peak positions and tell me why he's so sure to top the charts "just because he's Tim."
Kenny, yes. RF, yes. It looks as if Paisley's in that category now. Carrie, maybe. Taylor, soon. Not Toby, not Tim.
As for this song -- I think it's not nearly as bad as the posts here made me think it would be. The song's awkward -- the way "just so good-looking" has to be sung is a reminder that the song's melody is a bit forced. That's not Tim's fault. I'd say that we didn't really need a re-make of this song -- I can find 1,000 songs I'd rather hear re-done -- but I think Tim does the song justice and puts on a solid performance.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jan 8, 2008 17:27:35 GMT -5
As for this song -- I think it's not nearly as bad as the posts here made me think it would be. The song's awkward -- the way "just so good-looking" has to be sung is a reminder that the song's melody is a bit forced. That's not Tim's fault. I'd say that we didn't really need a re-make of this song -- I can find 1,000 songs I'd rather hear re-done -- but I think Tim does the song justice and puts on a solid performance. I agree entirely with you on this one, Zazie. Rabbitt's version is better, but Tim's is a solid performance. The high notes on "steal you away from me" are definitely a bit of a strain, but not nearly as jarring as hearing him squeak his way through the really high notes in "Tiny Dancer" -- that version made my ears bleed.
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Post by zaclord on Jan 8, 2008 19:20:11 GMT -5
Who thinks Tim's songs are automatic #1's anymore? I think that part of his career is over now. Most of his songs chart pretty well, but just look at his recent peak positions and tell me why he's so sure to top the charts "just because he's Tim." i wasnt saying tim would go #1 with any song he put out, i was just saying that it is a sure top 10 hit. that is, if you talking to me. and i do think the sure fire #1 hit part of tim's life is way over. especially since i havent really LOVED any of his songs from the last 4 years
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Post by Marv on Jan 8, 2008 22:10:16 GMT -5
There's no doubt in my mind that his days of 'automatic #1 singles' are behind him; he's had only one charttopper in the past thirty-seven months!!!
But he's just blown too many opportunities to have another 'automatic #1 single' since reaching the top with 'Back When' in December of 2004, and releasing 'Suspicions' as opposed to either 'Whiskey And You' or 'Train #10' is more proof than I need that his choice of singles have been very inconsistent and downright infuriating over the past three-plus years.
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Post by zaclord on Jan 8, 2008 22:36:25 GMT -5
^agree! he would have returned to the top if he released "I've Got Friends That Do" from his greatest hits and "Whiskey And You" from Let It Go. if i chose tim's singles, all 4 songs he released off "Let It Go" would have been left as album tracks except for "Suspicions" which would not have made the album. I would have picked "Whiskey And You", "Between The River And Me", "Let It Go", and either "Nothin' To Die For" or "Train #10" (if not both)
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Post by Zazie on Jan 9, 2008 0:06:00 GMT -5
Who thinks Tim's songs are automatic #1's anymore? I think that part of his career is over now. Most of his songs chart pretty well, but just look at his recent peak positions and tell me why he's so sure to top the charts "just because he's Tim." i wasnt saying tim would go #1 with any song he put out, i was just saying that it is a sure top 10 hit. that is, if you talking to me. and i do think the sure fire #1 hit part of tim's life is way over. especially since i havent really LOVED any of his songs from the last 4 years We don't disagree. I was commenting on a post above yours by EvansSwiftSHeDAISY. My mistake was not quoting that post as part of mine. Tim should spend more time on the Pulse board before making (or going along with) singles selections. I agree on Whiskey and You and most of your comments, although I continue to think that I Need You is the best Tim/Faith duet we are ever likely to hear, and was a good choice as a single. One, two, three, like a bird I post....
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Post by tsr on Jan 9, 2008 16:04:47 GMT -5
I believe his last #1 was Last Dollar... less than a year ago... I think with one big hit his #1 streak could start again...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2008 18:18:30 GMT -5
I like this for it's vintage value. I guess that's largely in part because it's a cover from 20 years ago.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Jan 12, 2008 0:16:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I was about to say...Does this song sound extremely R&Bish or what not, at least in terms of country music? I just don't like the sound of it; when I listen to country, I don't like to hear something I could hear on a R&B station...
maybe its just me though?
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