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Post by MTSChart21 on Jun 7, 2016 8:42:39 GMT -5
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jun 7, 2016 8:44:54 GMT -5
Mess at Fight Song STILL being in there. I first heard it this time last summer.  She's released 2 singles since then. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 10:41:21 GMT -5
Stitches needs to GTFO of top 25 already. I like the song, but its been here way too much.
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Jun 7, 2016 10:58:31 GMT -5
Prediction for For Free? Me thinks it could enter between 16-25...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 11:00:58 GMT -5
Prediction for For Free? Me thinks it could enter between 16-25... What song is that? |
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Jun 7, 2016 11:03:41 GMT -5
^^DJ Khaled feat. Drake
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 11:04:21 GMT -5
Oh we talking about its Hot 100 Debut?
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Post by Mike is BAD on Jun 7, 2016 14:31:22 GMT -5
Oh we talking about its Hot 100 Debut? Yes, I think it will debut maybe at #3 or #4 because it has a full week of sales and was in the Top-3 sales since release. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 14:33:04 GMT -5
Nah itll probably be 13th.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 14:36:36 GMT -5
"#3 or #4" lmao not even
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Post by Mike is BAD on Jun 7, 2016 15:28:59 GMT -5
Uhhh, have you seen how massive its sales are? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 16:09:57 GMT -5
Uhhh, have you seen how massive its sales are? massive? Hardly. It's selling less than the JT song this week and it isn't nearly CSTF's biggest week. It'll be extremely lucky if it gets top ten. |
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Post by Mayman on Jun 7, 2016 16:10:11 GMT -5
Uhhh, have you seen how massive its sales are? It's predicted to sell around 107k (Kworb), which isn't a whole lot. Plus you also have to take into account of its streams and radio. Unless... You are talking about #3 or #4 on the Digital Songs chart which is very likely. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 16:11:51 GMT -5
Uhhh, have you seen how massive its sales are? It's predicted to sell around 107k (Kworb), which isn't a whole lot. Plus you also have to take into account of its streams and radio. Unless... You are talking about #3 or #4 on the Digital Songs chart which is very likely. he was definitely talking about its hot 100 debut lol he said it in response to someone else's post asking "are we talking about its hot 100 debut?" |
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Post by imbondz on Jun 7, 2016 16:16:57 GMT -5
Any chance The Fighter by Urban and Underwood hits big? There's zero hint of country. I like it a lot. Hope it's huge but doubt it.
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Post by popstop on Jun 7, 2016 17:09:43 GMT -5
Damn, why haven't I noticed what a sausagefest the top 20 airplay was these days?
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Post by Old-school 72 on Jun 7, 2016 21:55:44 GMT -5
I still don't get how the #1 song in sales and airplay is only #3. I understand a lot of people like Drake but streaming a song and purchasing a song is a big difference. Purchasing means you truly like something and want to have it forever. Streaming means it's cool for the moment and is forgettable in time once something cooler comes along.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 7, 2016 22:05:48 GMT -5
The charts in question represent the present, not the future/forever/later on.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 7, 2016 22:06:15 GMT -5
I still don't get how the #1 song in sales and airplay is only #3. I understand a lot of people like Drake but streaming a song and purchasing a song is a big difference. Purchasing means you truly like something and want to have it forever. Streaming means it's cool for the moment and is forgettable in time once something cooler comes along. Hello, welcome to 2016. It's a different world than it was when another generation was young. With different options. Also, the charts measure a 7-day period, "forever" is absolutely irrelevant in that context, it's just 7 days. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 7, 2016 22:13:33 GMT -5
I still don't get how the #1 song in sales and airplay is only #3. I understand a lot of people like Drake but streaming a song and purchasing a song is a big difference. Purchasing means you truly like something and want to have it forever. Streaming means it's cool for the moment and is forgettable in time once something cooler comes along. Airplay is worse. User has less control with radio than with streaming. Streaming then is a much better predictor of popularity than traditional radio. |
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Post by jarhys on Jun 7, 2016 22:33:55 GMT -5
I still don't get how the #1 song in sales and airplay is only #3. I understand a lot of people like Drake but streaming a song and purchasing a song is a big difference. Purchasing means you truly like something and want to have it forever. Streaming means it's cool for the moment and is forgettable in time once something cooler comes along. You can only buy once, but listen on streaming for weeks. |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Jun 7, 2016 22:51:09 GMT -5
I still don't get how the #1 song in sales and airplay is only #3. I understand a lot of people like Drake but streaming a song and purchasing a song is a big difference. Purchasing means you truly like something and want to have it forever. Streaming means it's cool for the moment and is forgettable in time once something cooler comes along. You can only buy once, but listen on streaming for weeks. Exactly! |
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Post by Gary on Jun 7, 2016 22:52:22 GMT -5
I still don't get how the #1 song in sales and airplay is only #3. I understand a lot of people like Drake but streaming a song and purchasing a song is a big difference. Purchasing means you truly like something and want to have it forever. Streaming means it's cool for the moment and is forgettable in time once something cooler comes along. You can only buy once, but listen on streaming for weeks. You can listen forever after you buy. With streaming, that lasts as long as your subscription in most cases. |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Jun 7, 2016 22:53:59 GMT -5
You can only buy once, but listen on streaming for weeks. You can listen forever after you buy. With streaming, that lasts as long as your subscription in most cases. But Billboard can't track iTunes/Amazon (or whatever you buy the song from) plays |
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 7, 2016 23:03:47 GMT -5
You can listen forever after you buy. With streaming, that lasts as long as your subscription in most cases. But Billboard can't track iTunes/Amazon (or whatever you buy the song from) plays But damn it sure would be cool if that were possible! |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Jun 7, 2016 23:04:54 GMT -5
But Billboard can't track iTunes/Amazon (or whatever you buy the song from) plays But damn it sure would be cool if that were possible! I have a feeling you're being sarcastic, but not quite sure |
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 7, 2016 23:07:43 GMT -5
But damn it sure would be cool if that were possible! I have a feeling you're being sarcastic, but not quite sure ...no. It would only add to the power people have in the charts. That's super cool. I understand why it's not possible, though. If it were to be added, though, it would certainly be the least weighted as it brings zero revenue to the label. |
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Post by Old-school 72 on Jun 7, 2016 23:59:07 GMT -5
Well if airplay is so irrelevant, why do people get so I to the airplay chart on here. Why bother with it at all. I still believe sales prove a songs popularity. And yes you can listen to it as many times no matter where you're at. And it's yours. I believe in buying physical pieces of music. ThT is true artist support.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 8, 2016 3:14:06 GMT -5
These 3 factors are very different to each other which is why Hot 100 is so interesting
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 3:19:54 GMT -5
Streaming isn't counted as much as sales anyways. If you're streaming a song, you're most likely interested in that song, at least for the moment. Which is all that should matter. User-generated streams I'm a bit more iffy on. Some of those streams aren't even for the song itself. They're often for a viral video or something else unrelated. Or worse, some little shit on youtube trying to get views with misleading titles. Looking at you, Tinashe song disguised as Rihanna's "Work".
Streaming is still a good indicator of a song's popularity, but streaming's cheap or free with ads. If I'm buying a song or album, it's because I really like it and don't mind throwing money at it.
If anything, I think radio is probably the least indicative of a song's popularity. I don't want to hear some of these songs over and over again, but I have to because they're played on the radio where I work, and I don't have control over the radio. If airplay's counted, it should be for very little.
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