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Post by Kat5Kind on Feb 1, 2017 18:56:29 GMT -5
How did WIL get a nomination? 😂
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Post by myeverything on Feb 2, 2017 10:34:09 GMT -5
Surprised no nomination for WYRK this time around
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 3, 2017 0:43:46 GMT -5
Surprised no nomination for WYRK this time around Aww. lol To tell the truth, I was hoping they would. I get frustrated with their playlist sometimes but I've had numerous conversations with Brett Alan and I do enjoy the people who work there.
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Post by myeverything on Feb 3, 2017 10:05:38 GMT -5
Surprised no nomination for WYRK this time around Aww. lol To tell the truth, I was hoping they would. I get frustrated with their playlist sometimes but I've had numerous conversations with Brett Alan and I do enjoy the people who work there. Worked there for two years! (Not sure if you knew that or not) but they truly are an amazing group of people who work their butts off. They usually do get the nomination, but I'm not sure when the last time they actually won was. If ever, lol.. like I said, it's been a while!
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 3, 2017 15:15:50 GMT -5
Aww. lol To tell the truth, I was hoping they would. I get frustrated with their playlist sometimes but I've had numerous conversations with Brett Alan and I do enjoy the people who work there. Worked there for two years! (Not sure if you knew that or not) Yes; I remember you mentioning it at some point. I'm fairly certain they've never won, even though they've been nominated multiple times.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 3, 2017 17:53:28 GMT -5
Aww. lol To tell the truth, I was hoping they would. I get frustrated with their playlist sometimes but I've had numerous conversations with Brett Alan and I do enjoy the people who work there. Worked there for two years! (Not sure if you knew that or not) but they truly are an amazing group of people who work their butts off. They usually do get the nomination, but I'm not sure when the last time they actually won was. If ever, lol.. like I said, it's been a while! I heard you over the air a few times. You sounded great. I'm showing my age here, but I used to have conversations with a deejay by the name of Johnny Lawrence. He used to do the all night request show on Saturdays. Great guy to talk to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 9:31:38 GMT -5
With Reba on the Today Show, they should just have her announce the ACM nominations and get it over with. And then she can announce she's back to host. Sounds good to me.
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Post by myeverything on Feb 6, 2017 9:58:03 GMT -5
Worked there for two years! (Not sure if you knew that or not) but they truly are an amazing group of people who work their butts off. They usually do get the nomination, but I'm not sure when the last time they actually won was. If ever, lol.. like I said, it's been a while! I heard you over the air a few times. You sounded great. I'm showing my age here, but I used to have conversations with a deejay by the name of Johnny Lawrence. He used to do the all night request show on Saturdays. Great guy to talk to. Ha!! Must have been your lucky day, that definitely did not happen often!! lol! They always told me I have a voice you'd hear on air.
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 6, 2017 11:23:45 GMT -5
Yeah, the fact that there isn't even word on when the noms are coming out is beyond bizarre. The show's less than 2 months out.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 6, 2017 11:39:16 GMT -5
Entertainer of the Year should look similar to the CMAs; Some combo of Luke, Garth, Jason, Carrie, Keith, Kenny, Chris, and Eric... MAYBE Dierks sneaks in. Considering it isn't too often that the CMA Entertainer of the Year is also the ACM's Entertainer, I say Luke takes it. Would love for Carrie to take it, and of course Garth cannot be counted out. However, assuming these three are nominated, it'll be a three-horse race again.
Female should and likely will go to Carrie, but I think Maren or Miranda are viable options as well. Carrie is by far the most deserving when it comes to the components of the award, so she should win.
Male will likely go to Stapleton.
I'll post more in depth thoughts when the nominations come out!
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Post by seak05 on Feb 6, 2017 11:55:36 GMT -5
Yeah, the fact that there isn't even word on when the noms are coming out is beyond bizarre. The show's less than 2 months out. No date for nominations, hosts haven't been officially announced, honestly feels like the awards are in a bit of disarray this year
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 6, 2017 11:58:20 GMT -5
I wonder if the CEO switch has anything to do with it.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 6, 2017 12:12:03 GMT -5
Maybe the new CEO is trying to implement some changes to prevent voting blocs? I mean, the CMAs definitely worked to make changes last year. Although the winners still reflected WME's dominance, the nominations definitely showed some improvement... I can imagine the new CEO, being a Grand Ole Opry affiliate, is probably super aware that there's a serious issue and I wouldn't doubt that they're trying some new things to address this issue.
The Grammys have this method with the genre categories of having a panel of industry professionals choosing the nominees based on overall votes, criteria, etc. From what I understand, the final nominees are chosen by selected panelists; kind of ensuring that each category isn't just a popularity contest. Hence artists like Alison Krauss and Vince Gill being able to win despite being out of the the limelight. I'm not totally clear on this process, but I know it serves well to ensure voting blocs aren't in full control of any particular categories/genres. I think a method like this would serve the country industry well, this would help the issue of "snubs" as well as the issue of voting blocs.
I'm just brainstorming, but I know the ACMs have always been looking for ways to reinvent (trying fan voted EOTY, merging the Best New Artist categories, etc)... I could definitely see them leading the way, in terms of country music, to fight back against label/management politics to restore validity to their organization and awards process.
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 6, 2017 19:41:04 GMT -5
^Honestly, that could make sense. Could give labels less time to prepare such elaborate and pushy campaigns, which may come as a disappointment to Music Row, but could be a pretty pleasant relief to the general public. I'd just love to see some mercy for Margo Price at just one awards show. I figured she'd get shunned at the CMAs, but I was really stunned when she didn't nab anything from the Grammys.
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Post by seak05 on Feb 6, 2017 19:48:44 GMT -5
Don't think the ACM's going the way of the grammy's would make it less political. The grammy's is also plenty political, it just has different politics. They tend to reward older artists as almost lifetime achievement awards for instance. And they've gotten a lot of criticism over their treatment of urban/rap & African-Americans in the all genre categories. And heck the grammy's didn't even give Margo Price a single nod this year!
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 7, 2017 7:24:22 GMT -5
The Grammys certainly have their issues too, but it's far less manipulated than the country award shows. More often than not the nominees are inclusive and usually a strong case can be made for the winner... I do think the Grammy solution could help, but it wouldn't eliminate the issue completely if ultimately the voting is in the hands of the thousands of industry professionals.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Feb 7, 2017 11:03:12 GMT -5
Other than Best New Artist, the Grammy's reward songs and albums though, which certainly is through a different lens than taking charts, touring, sales, etc. into consideration for awards like Entertainer and Female Vocalist of the Year. If the CMAs rewarded Female Vocal Performance of the Year and nominated songs instead of artists, it would be easier to see the manipulation if Miranda won in her year where she did nothing over Carrie/Kacey/Kelsea who had albums and/or hit singles released. Grammys are more about awarding art rather than success (although in recent years, they've definitely rewarded the more mainstream releases for the most part).
I'm all for restructuring to block some of the politics though. It needs to happen at the CMAs and ACMs.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 8, 2017 16:34:01 GMT -5
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Post by seak05 on Feb 8, 2017 17:28:05 GMT -5
Any idea why Lady A is announcing them? Aren't they like not eligible for anything?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 17:29:50 GMT -5
Any idea why Lady A is announcing them? Aren't they like not eligible for anything? Eh, they could get Vocal Group based on Name Recognition alone. Like Sugarland was for a few years. There probably isn't much too it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 19:06:23 GMT -5
Any idea why Lady A is announcing them? Aren't they like not eligible for anything? Even if they aren't eligible they could still announce, why should that be a problem? Hell, I could announce them, as it means nothing as to who announces.
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Post by seak05 on Feb 8, 2017 19:18:12 GMT -5
Any idea why Lady A is announcing them? Aren't they like not eligible for anything? Even if they aren't eligible they could still announce, why should that be a problem? Hell, I could announce them, as it means nothing as to who announces. Generally speaking (but not always) the people chosen to announce are also people who get a lot of nominations. Since it's usually on TV, they can then talk about the nominations and the show right after.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 20:37:41 GMT -5
Even if they aren't eligible they could still announce, why should that be a problem? Hell, I could announce them, as it means nothing as to who announces. Generally speaking (but not always) the people chosen to announce are also people who get a lot of nominations. Since it's usually on TV, they can then talk about the nominations and the show right after. Well even if they don't get nominated, they'll probably talk about their comeback, so at least they will have some material.
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 8, 2017 21:16:30 GMT -5
Even if they aren't eligible they could still announce, why should that be a problem? Hell, I could announce them, as it means nothing as to who announces. Generally speaking (but not always) the people chosen to announce are also people who get a lot of nominations. Since it's usually on TV, they can then talk about the nominations and the show right after. Not at all true. Generally speaking, the people chosen to announce are people that barely get one or two nominations, max (and sometimes, none at all -- see Meghan Trainor announcing GRAMMY nominations this year, as just one of many recent examples). The only recent exception I can think of in this instance is Dierks Bentley, Cam, and Keith Urban announcing the CMA nominees last September, where the men each walked away with 3 or 4, while Cam walked away with 2. Beyond that, most of the time, artists who announce nominees are there because they either A) have something to promote, B) are past winners, C) may or may not be eligible to sneak in one more nomination that year, or D) all of the above. In this instance for Lady A, it's likely D. Nevertheless, not even sure why this is a discussion, lol. It's not a big deal. Lady A has won several ACMs in the past, recently came off of a hiatus, put out a new lead single for an upcoming album + tour, and were asked to present the long-overdue nominees.
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Post by myeverything on Feb 9, 2017 9:59:18 GMT -5
Good for them that they're announcing. I wouldn't look too much into it either. Will they get a vocal group nomination? Probably... more than that? Doubtful. But you never know! At least the nominations are finally coming out!!
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Post by seak05 on Feb 9, 2017 10:19:40 GMT -5
Just found it curious, wasn't meant to be taken as a negative (sheesh some touchy people on this board lately). I wonder who is hosting? (please not Luke & Dierks again)
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Post by myeverything on Feb 10, 2017 10:04:42 GMT -5
I'm certainly not trying to be touchy if you were referring to me at all! I think "random" is a good word for them to announce. Neither really good or bad, I'm indifferent at this point. Like I said, I'm just happy they're finally revealing the nominees!!
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Post by bboat11 on Feb 10, 2017 20:08:02 GMT -5
Just found it curious, wasn't meant to be taken as a negative (sheesh some touchy people on this board lately). I wonder who is hosting? (please not Luke & Dierks again) I'm a little confused, because this has definitely just been a discussion. Nobody has said anything rude about or directed towards another poster (until you did just now), and nobody has said anything rude or untrue about Lady A. If you think that the previous discussion has been negative, then you are definitely the one being touchy. Sorry if you find me "touchy" for saying this, but discussions don't remain productive for very long once you start assigning labels to your fellow posters. About Lady A, I definitely agree that is is slightly unusual to see them announcing nominees despite not being eligible for much of anything other than group. But I agree with everyone who says it doesn't really matter who announces nominees too. So I don't have much to contribute to that thought, other than saying that everyone has done a great job of posting compelling opinions substantiated by fact that have caused me to feel like I can agree with everyone despite multiple viewpoints being raised :)
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Feb 12, 2017 20:37:15 GMT -5
Luke & Dierks are hosting again per a commercial at the Grammys
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 20:39:45 GMT -5
Luke & Dierks are hosting again per a commercial at the Grammys Yay! I figured they wouldn't change anything considering how late the Nominees are.
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