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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 17:56:00 GMT -5
I’m hoping UMG is pushing her to start working on a new album that will be headed in a better direction than this one turned out. Having two underperforming singles (by Carrie’s standards) on their first era with her can’t be looked at as a win. I think moving in to a new album after the next single would be in their best interest. She still has an entire tour to support.
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Post by kallie on Apr 7, 2019 18:52:16 GMT -5
I’m hoping UMG is pushing her to start working on a new album that will be headed in a better direction than this one turned out. Having two underperforming singles (by Carrie’s standards) on their first era with her can’t be looked at as a win. I think moving in to a new album after the next single would be in their best interest. I agree with you. Time to ditch this album and get a new one out there. I have all of Carrie's albums, and Cry Pretty is my least favorite album of hers. I have not listened to it in months. The only song I remotely liked was "Ghosts On the Stereo". When I want to listen to Carrie music, I pull out one of her older albums.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Apr 7, 2019 18:58:24 GMT -5
I’m hoping UMG is pushing her to start working on a new album that will be headed in a better direction than this one turned out. Having two underperforming singles (by Carrie’s standards) on their first era with her can’t be looked at as a win. I think moving in to a new album after the next single would be in their best interest. She still has an entire tour to support. That doesn't mean she can't start working on the new album though. Assuming that "Southbound" performs similarly to "Love Wins", 30 weeks and a low top 10/high top 20 peak, that's another low-impact single would put it peaking in late October/early November right when her announced tour dates are wrapping up. If she has a 3rd underperforming single, it would be smarter to release a brand new single to build hype back up (especially if it's something that's gonna connect better than the songs on this album) in early 2020 instead of releasing a 4th single that would have a long, hard uphill climb to even match the mediocre success of the first 3 singles. Now, if "Southbound" gets her back to #1, or close to it, I think single #4 (which better be Drinking Alone) is worth a shot. But in the scenario that Southbound isn't the summer hit we are hoping it will be, I believe it would be in Carrie's best interest to have a new single ready to go instead of spending several months off of radio. So if I were UMG, I'd have our A&R guys digging hard to find something perfect for Carrie to send her way and be setting up cowrites with her on the road so that they can have something ready to go early 2020 in case they need to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 19:06:12 GMT -5
She still has an entire tour to support. That doesn't mean she can't start working on the new album though. Assuming that "Southbound" performs similarly to "Love Wins", 30 weeks and a low top 10/high top 20 peak, that's another low-impact single would put it peaking in late October/early November right when her announced tour dates are wrapping up. If she has a 3rd underperforming single, it would be smarter to release a brand new single to build hype back up (especially if it's something that's gonna connect better than the songs on this album) in early 2020 instead of releasing a 4th single that would have a long, hard uphill climb to even match the mediocre success of the first 3 singles. Now, if "Southbound" gets her back to #1, or close to it, I think single #4 (which better be Drinking Alone) is worth a shot. But in the scenario that Southbound isn't the summer hit we are hoping it will be, I believe it would be in Carrie's best interest to have a new single ready to go instead of spending several months off of radio. So if I were UMG, I'd have our A&R guys digging hard to find something perfect for Carrie to send her way and be setting up cowrites with her on the road so that they can have something ready to go early 2020 in case they need to. Now suppose this were to occur, I think one of the most important changes to make towards the next project would be taking David Garcia out of the equation. He may be a fine co-writer, but I think helming a project of this magnitude with a superstar of Carrie’s stature is out of his depth. I’d rather she go back with...Mark Bright. That’s how much I think Garcia needs to go.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 7, 2019 19:58:43 GMT -5
I think we all saw Southbound coming. Most people were expecting "Drinking Alone." Releasing "Southbound" first and then that one might not be a bad idea though. I would’ve preferred Drinking Alone, but Southbound is a summer smash waiting to happen, especially if they put out an amazing music video for it. It fits in with what’s popular at the moment. Lyrically, the song is not her greatest, but I think this should bring her back to the top 5. I’m surprised UMG isn’t going to go for max spins or anything.
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Post by gingersnap on Apr 7, 2019 21:12:00 GMT -5
I have to ask what is up with Carrie's song selections, Cry Pretty, Love Wins and now Southbound , these are some of her worse songs , she has released. Southbound seems like a bad song choice, considering that her two previous singles weren't major hits.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Apr 7, 2019 21:34:05 GMT -5
I have to ask what is up with Carrie's song selections, Cry Pretty, Love Wins and now Southbound , these are some of her worse songs , she has released. Southbound seems like a bad song choice, considering that her two previous singles weren't major hits. Actually, I’ll say this was a good choice. It may be one of the worst songs on the album, but this is the type of songs that Country radio will play. And at the moment, that is something Carrie needs after Cry Pretty and Love Wins both underperforming. I will fully agree that CP and LW were terrible choices. To think we could’ve already had Backsliding and Drinking Alone or even End Up With You instead of these two...
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 7, 2019 21:47:40 GMT -5
I have to ask what is up with Carrie's song selections, Cry Pretty, Love Wins and now Southbound , these are some of her worse songs , she has released. Southbound seems like a bad song choice, considering that her two previous singles weren't major hits. Actually, I’ll say this was a good choice. It may be one of the worst songs on the album, but this is the type of songs that Country radio will play. And at the moment, that is something Carrie needs after Cry Pretty and Love Wins both underperforming. I will fully agree that CP and LW were terrible choices. To think we could’ve already had Backsliding and Drinking Alone or even End Up With You instead of these two... This. I agree 1000%. I always skip over this song because I despise it, but it’s the kind of crap that country radio is playing now, sadly.
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Post by desertfloods on Apr 8, 2019 3:28:46 GMT -5
That doesn't mean she can't start working on the new album though. Assuming that "Southbound" performs similarly to "Love Wins", 30 weeks and a low top 10/high top 20 peak, that's another low-impact single would put it peaking in late October/early November right when her announced tour dates are wrapping up. If she has a 3rd underperforming single, it would be smarter to release a brand new single to build hype back up (especially if it's something that's gonna connect better than the songs on this album) in early 2020 instead of releasing a 4th single that would have a long, hard uphill climb to even match the mediocre success of the first 3 singles. Now, if "Southbound" gets her back to #1, or close to it, I think single #4 (which better be Drinking Alone) is worth a shot. But in the scenario that Southbound isn't the summer hit we are hoping it will be, I believe it would be in Carrie's best interest to have a new single ready to go instead of spending several months off of radio. So if I were UMG, I'd have our A&R guys digging hard to find something perfect for Carrie to send her way and be setting up cowrites with her on the road so that they can have something ready to go early 2020 in case they need to. Now suppose this were to occur, I think one of the most important changes to make towards the next project would be taking David Garcia out of the equation. He may be a fine co-writer, but I think helming a project of this magnitude with a superstar of Carrie’s stature is out of his depth. I’d rather she go back with...Mark Bright. That’s how much I think Garcia needs to go. Absolutely disagree. Not Mark Bright please.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 6:08:30 GMT -5
Now suppose this were to occur, I think one of the most important changes to make towards the next project would be taking David Garcia out of the equation. He may be a fine co-writer, but I think helming a project of this magnitude with a superstar of Carrie’s stature is out of his depth. I’d rather she go back with...Mark Bright. That’s how much I think Garcia needs to go. Absolutely disagree. Not Mark Bright please. I was emphasizing anyone BUT David Garcia.
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Post by desertfloods on Apr 8, 2019 6:23:44 GMT -5
Absolutely disagree. Not Mark Bright please. I was emphasizing anyone BUT David Garcia. I get your point. But still big no for me. Going back to Mark Bright is the very definition of stuck in a rut. So for me, anyone BUT him lol. The current album might not be as successful as hoped, but I don't agree with dumping David Garcia just based on measure of sales. There are many other factors that contributed to the lukewarm response to this album. Can't just blame it all on him. Personally, I think there has been a lot of good that came out of Carrie and David's collaborative efforts. If they want to continue working together next album, I am ok with that. Go back to the drawing board and fix or improve on things.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 8:19:10 GMT -5
I was emphasizing anyone BUT David Garcia. I get your point. But still big no for me. Going back to Mark Bright is the very definition of stuck in a rut. So for me, anyone BUT him lol. The current album might not be as successful as hoped, but I don't agree with dumping David Garcia just based on measure of sales. There are many other factors that contributed to the lukewarm response to this album. Can't just blame it all on him. Personally, I think there has been a lot of good that came out of Carrie and David's collaborative efforts. If they want to continue working together next album, I am ok with that. Go back to the drawing board and fix or improve on things. Mark Bright is a placeholder in this conversation for anyone but David Garcia. Garcia is not talented enough, plainly speaking. Would I actually advise she go back to Bright? No.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Apr 8, 2019 9:16:48 GMT -5
This only lost 9 spins today. I wonder how bad the losses will be in the upcoming days because I imagine it’ll fall like a rock.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 9:18:46 GMT -5
Any word on if a new single has been sent to radio?
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 8, 2019 14:37:12 GMT -5
Any word on if a new single has been sent to radio? If I were guessing we will get an ad for "Southbound" tonight in the weekly newsletters.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 8, 2019 19:41:07 GMT -5
I know this moved back up to #11 on Billboard but I do hope the label cuts ties this week because their is no opening next week in the Top 10 as Carrie Underwood is 3 million behind the #10 song and I don't see any immediate recurrents in that Top 10.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 8, 2019 20:21:11 GMT -5
So, where did this officially peak on Mediabase?
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Apr 8, 2019 20:23:01 GMT -5
So, where did this officially peak on Mediabase? #10, so her top 10 streak is still intact.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Apr 8, 2019 21:01:19 GMT -5
Ok Carrie, it's time to turn this ship around and get you're number one with a hit single. I'm glad that this hit top 10 to continue her top 10 streak but let's move on to a hit.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 9, 2019 9:58:21 GMT -5
So, where did this officially peak on Mediabase? #10, so her top 10 streak is still intact. Yes, but her Billboard streak will be broken, which is the more important one imo. 29 top 10s and 13 years of hard work.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 9, 2019 10:05:40 GMT -5
Has "Southbound" still not gone to radio? What a mess this era is.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 9, 2019 10:06:36 GMT -5
#10, so her top 10 streak is still intact. Yes, but her Billboard streak will be broken, which is the more important one imo. 29 top 10s and 13 years of hard work. But is it really worth it?. Besides the super fans of Carrie Underwood, does it really make a big difference that her streak is broken and besides those online fans is anyone gonna notice that this "missed" Top 10? The longer the label keeps with the song the more this album era is gonna hurt with radio. There is really no reason to keep this alive just to conserve a Top 10 streak.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Apr 9, 2019 10:54:39 GMT -5
If they wanted to keep this era going, they’d push this for max spins immediately then drop it by Sunday and send Southbound already! Why are they wasting more time?! People are responding well to the ACMs performance, time to jump ship!
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Post by gingersnap on Apr 9, 2019 11:03:27 GMT -5
This is just my opinion, but I think Carrie has peaked and that radio not that interested in playing her music anymore. She , like Miranda has hit the 35 year old mark and country radio not playing them as much. Carrie's last 2 singles haven't helped either, but now radio has these younger women like Maren, Kelsea and Carly to play. It will be interesting to watch her career from here on out and see if she can get another hit and what direction her music goes in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 11:15:45 GMT -5
This is just my opinion, but I think Carrie has peaked and that radio not that interested in playing her music anymore. She , like Miranda has hit the 35 year old mark and country radio not playing them as much. Carrie's last 2 singles haven't helped either, but now radio has these younger women like Maren, Kelsea and Carly to play. It will be interesting to watch her career from here on out and see if she can get another hit and what direction her music goes in. Lol okay.
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Post by loveofmusic on Apr 9, 2019 11:28:43 GMT -5
This is just my opinion, but I think Carrie has peaked and that radio not that interested in playing her music anymore. She , like Miranda has hit the 35 year old mark and country radio not playing them as much. Carrie's last 2 singles haven't helped either, but now radio has these younger women like Maren, Kelsea and Carly to play. It will be interesting to watch her career from here on out and see if she can get another hit and what direction her music goes in. While ageism comes quicker for female country artists than men, I don't think she's finished on radio. IMO the last 2 singles were poor choices.
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Post by d3vin44 on Apr 9, 2019 11:35:19 GMT -5
This is just my opinion, but I think Carrie has peaked and that radio not that interested in playing her music anymore. She , like Miranda has hit the 35 year old mark and country radio not playing them as much. Carrie's last 2 singles haven't helped either, but now radio has these younger women like Maren, Kelsea and Carly to play. It will be interesting to watch her career from here on out and see if she can get another hit and what direction her music goes in. Lol okay. This is not very tasteful. I think Gingersnap's opinion is not out of the question, and you are belittling her opinion. Please elaborate on why this opinion is funny. I'm pretty sure the board rules state these sorts of replies are not allowed.
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Post by matty005 on Apr 9, 2019 17:38:30 GMT -5
This is just my opinion, but I think Carrie has peaked and that radio not that interested in playing her music anymore. She , like Miranda has hit the 35 year old mark and country radio not playing them as much. Carrie's last 2 singles haven't helped either, but now radio has these younger women like Maren, Kelsea and Carly to play. It will be interesting to watch her career from here on out and see if she can get another hit and what direction her music goes in. Lol okay. No one is saying it's right or fair or anything. The sexism on country radio is horrid. That is why I don't listen to it much and rarely follow the charts anymore. But, the poster has a solid point, and whether you agree or not, the response was very rude. I, personally, think Carrie has many more years of being at the top of her game. But that doesn't mean she is going to have #1 hit after #1 hit. It also means, artists don't need radio nearly as much these days. Look at Kacey, look at Church to see this.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 9, 2019 18:12:03 GMT -5
This is just my opinion, but I think Carrie has peaked and that radio not that interested in playing her music anymore. She , like Miranda has hit the 35 year old mark and country radio not playing them as much. Carrie's last 2 singles haven't helped either, but now radio has these younger women like Maren, Kelsea and Carly to play. It will be interesting to watch her career from here on out and see if she can get another hit and what direction her music goes in. So, after two underperforming singles, you’re ready to write off any potential future success for Carrie? Yes, she’s 36, but Reba was still having success up until her late 50’s. Carrie isn’t done yet, this is just a bump in the road. Females overall, regardless of age, are having a tough time having solid radio success. Miranda is far more polarizing than Carrie, and that’s the main reason why radio has dropped her essentially.
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Post by bigd79 on Apr 9, 2019 18:48:54 GMT -5
Comeon Carrie/UMG, why the hold up? I am sad this won't go #1 or even top 5, but it is what it is and its time to let this go, Southbound went over really well sunday night, now its time to strike while the iron is hot! Send southbound to radio STAT!!
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