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Post by 14887fan on Apr 9, 2019 18:53:16 GMT -5
It’s been, literally, less than 48 hours since she performed it. Chill.
why are carrie fans like this [3172948202380]
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Post by Sugar Rush on Apr 9, 2019 19:30:46 GMT -5
This is just my opinion, but I think Carrie has peaked and that radio not that interested in playing her music anymore. She , like Miranda has hit the 35 year old mark and country radio not playing them as much. Carrie's last 2 singles haven't helped either, but now radio has these younger women like Maren, Kelsea and Carly to play. It will be interesting to watch her career from here on out and see if she can get another hit and what direction her music goes in. While sexism is rampant, Luke Bryan is still releasing singles in his 40s that are going to the top. I think the thing is Cry Pretty was not really radio friendly, and Love Wins was just a poor choice. I would not necessary write her off based off those two singles. As well, Miranda really has not dropped a radio friendly single since Automatic and Somethin' Bad so I would not really compare the two. Also would like to point out that Kelsea's 'I Hate Love Songs' did not even reach top twenty, and Carly's struggling to see the success 'Every Little Thing' had with her two most recent singles. The fact Carrie can go #11 with a song like Love Wins does show that radio is still interested in her (as it's the only song release by a female that was not 'Miss Me More' or 'Rich') that has charted that high in recent months.
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Post by country11 on Apr 9, 2019 20:05:14 GMT -5
"Keeper of the Flame" was pretty radio friendly imo. As far as Carrie, I agree about the previous two not being radio friendly.
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Post by galfor on Apr 10, 2019 0:53:41 GMT -5
What does ‘radio friendly’ even mean. Both songs are great and both deserved to be hits. I’m hoping they can sneak this into the top 10 before moving on. That top 10 streak is worth the extra push!
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Apr 10, 2019 8:16:11 GMT -5
So back up to #11 on Billboard. Highly unusually chart run 11-14-14-11 - especially in MaxSpins/AirPower era where we see 40% drops post-peak week. The new label might as well do Carrie a solid and push it BB Top 10 and then let it have a historic drop off the charts.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Apr 10, 2019 8:31:32 GMT -5
I’m thinking they’ll do a push week once the film, Breakthrough is out on the 17th. Isn’t this song supposed to be a prominent/essential to the film?
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 14, 2019 14:14:44 GMT -5
I'd like to believe this song will be done this upcoming week as it has been doing nothing for well over a month. In fact the past 5 weeks this song has lost 1.5 million audience on Billboard.
I just don't get why they haven't abandoned ship. Radio is done with this. They want to get rid of it. Especially doesn't make sense since Carrie Underwood performed "Southbound" and the longer the ACMs are behind us the more "Southbound" will fall in sales and buzz. They need to send "Southbound" to country radio and abandon this.
Even if the label does a last week push I don't see the opening for the Billboard Top 10 and I don't see this song gaining more than the songs around it. There is zero upside in promoting this song as it already has been a Mediabase Top 10. So the streak is technically still intact anyway.
I don't understand Capitol Nashville's strategy here.
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Post by fireflies on Apr 14, 2019 14:46:43 GMT -5
^ "Breakthrough" opens on Wednesday. The commercials on tv have been using this song for that. It makes sense they'd keep this song going until the release of the movie.
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Post by bigd79 on Apr 14, 2019 15:28:14 GMT -5
^ "Breakthrough" opens on Wednesday. The commercials on tv have been using this song for that. It makes sense they'd keep this song going until the release of the movie. I get that LW is part of the soundtrack, but is pushing this song one more week on radio going to make any difference for the movie or the song? The commercials for the movie will still play the clips regardless of whats going on radio-wise. Its not like radio sits there and tells us to go see the movie when LW is played. I think the people that are gonna go see the movie were going to regardless, and hearing the song on radio isn't going to sway someone one way or the other. If Carrie had some new song for the soundtrack, then i would see it being more relavent. If anything, i think the best promo the movie has received so far is the song Carrie, Chrissy Metz, Lauren Alaina, M&T, and Mickey Guyton did. Anywho... I'm a fan of the song, feel like it deserved better, but its time to let it go. I'm amazed this song has held on as long as it has. Crazy to think this has been on radio for 7 months already. I'm hoping the positive reaction to her Southbound performance from the ACM's last sunday was enough to make them pull the trigger. I almost kinda wonder if they were testing it to see how people reacted before deciding..... we'll see! (hopefully tomorrow lol)
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 14, 2019 15:52:44 GMT -5
I mean, I feel like dozens of weeks hovering around the top 10 isn’t a bad thing... the song still gets a lot of consistent exposure at that level. One could even argue its more beneficial than skyrocketing to #1 to then plummet all within 10-20 weeks. I mean that’s a case by case thing, and despite the point I just tried to make, I’d argue hovering around the top 10 isn’t really doing anything for LW or the album. Perhaps they’re fine waiting it out until it completely falls on its own, or maybe they still have plans, or maybe they were banking on a smash with it and now don’t know what to do? Who knows? But country radio is making it clear that worthy songs by women are not welcome anymore, so I don’t even know if Carrie could do anything about it, no matter what she releases...
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 14, 2019 16:05:26 GMT -5
UK radio station is teasing a Carrie announcement on Twitter for tomorrow. Not sure what it is, since she’s already announced a tour for over there. Would be weird to make a big tease over a single release, but since it’s a radio station, I’m not sure what else it could be.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 14, 2019 16:15:17 GMT -5
I mean, I feel like dozens of weeks hovering around the top 10 isn’t a bad thing... the song still gets a lot of consistent exposure at that level. One could even argue its more beneficial than skyrocketing to #1 to then plummet all within 10-20 weeks. I mean that’s a case by case thing, and despite the point I just tried to make, I’d argue hovering around the top 10 isn’t really doing anything for LW or the album. Perhaps they’re fine waiting it out until it completely falls on its own, or maybe they still have plans, or maybe they were banking on a smash with it and now don’t know what to do? Who knows? But country radio is making it clear that worthy songs by women are not welcome anymore, so I don’t even know if Carrie could do anything about it, no matter what she releases... I get this point but I don't agree at all. The song gets consistent exposure but in exchange it makes future songs from the album more likely to flop with radio. I'd also say that country radio is being a tad bit more willing to play women in country radio, Kelsea Ballerini has a future #1, Maren Morris has a potential #1. Runaway June, Carly Pearce, Tenille Townes, and Kacey Musgraves all have songs young enough that they should make the Top 20 at least.
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 14, 2019 17:16:43 GMT -5
I'd also say that country radio is being a tad bit more willing to play women in country radio, Kelsea Ballerini has a future #1, Maren Morris has a potential #1. Runaway June, Carly Pearce, Tenille Townes, and Kacey Musgraves all have songs young enough that they should make the Top 20 at least. If what we have now is the barometer for what radio is “willing” to do (I know what you mean, but that’s such a gross way to put it — not slamming you when I say that, FYI), then...carrieidol1 is still 100% absolutely right.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 14, 2019 17:46:02 GMT -5
I'd also say that country radio is being a tad bit more willing to play women in country radio, Kelsea Ballerini has a future #1, Maren Morris has a potential #1. Runaway June, Carly Pearce, Tenille Townes, and Kacey Musgraves all have songs young enough that they should make the Top 20 at least. If what we have now is the barometer for what radio is “willing” to do (I know what you mean, but that’s such a gross way to put it — not slamming you when I say that, FYI), then...carrieidol1 is still 100% absolutely right. I wasn't intending it to be gross the way I was putting it. Just the word that came to mind was willing, I should have used a better word obviously. Labels can push all they want for radio success for their artists but at the end of the day radio will do what it thinks is best for them even if it's not. My general point was more that I am somewhat optimistic for the future for women in country music as a whole with how the female songs on the chart have been doing lately and seems like radio wants these songs by the female artists to have some success so it's a step in the right direction. Not trying to sound gross or negative when I type this btw.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 19:53:40 GMT -5
I feel that all of this over-analysis is creating a cyclical conversion rehashing the same ideas.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 14, 2019 20:36:15 GMT -5
I feel that all of this over-analysis is creating a cyclical conversion rehashing the same ideas. That's Pulse for you in a nutshell.
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 14, 2019 20:50:57 GMT -5
I feel that all of this over-analysis is creating a cyclical conversion rehashing the same ideas. 1. I don't think I've welcomed you yet, so let me welcome you to Pulse Music Board. 2. It's been like that since I joined Pulse ten years ago. The single Carrie Underwood had out at the time was I Told You So. I'm sure the over analysis was taking place at the time. I have to see if I have any posts in that thread.
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Post by tim on Apr 14, 2019 21:12:57 GMT -5
I feel that all of this over-analysis is creating a cyclical conversion rehashing the same ideas. 1. I don't think I've welcomed you yet, so let me welcome you to Pulse Music Board. 2. It's been like that since I joined Pulse ten years ago. The single Carrie Underwood had out at the time was I Told You So. I'm sure the over analysis was taking place at the time. I have to see if I have any posts in that thread.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 15, 2019 18:23:47 GMT -5
It’s pretty clear that this is done. This morning’s update was horrendous and she hasn’t had a bullet on this song for 3 days now. Time to cut their losses and get Southbound set with an adds date.
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Post by trustypepper on Apr 15, 2019 18:35:14 GMT -5
If the Carrie stans and Pulse country experts can’t come to a general consensus on the next and future singles, I think that’s pretty worrisome for the era in general.
I do think she’s better off moving on as soon as possible, but “Southbound” deserves a chance for the summer.
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Post by bigd79 on Apr 15, 2019 18:55:50 GMT -5
I think there is an agreeance from **most** of us that drinking alone needs to be a single, For me, i just hope its single #4 after southbound. If it ends up being 3, i will understand why and totally be on board, as at least i will always have the ACM performance to look fondly back on as southbound's shining moment.
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 15, 2019 19:45:09 GMT -5
UK radio station is teasing a Carrie announcement on Twitter for tomorrow. Not sure what it is, since she’s already announced a tour for over there. Would be weird to make a big tease over a single release, but since it’s a radio station, I’m not sure what else it could be. Update: it was a contest to meet her while she’s on tour over there. Disregard.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 18, 2019 14:24:41 GMT -5
Not quite sure what UMG is planning, but if they are planning on pushing, they better do it next week as the top 10 is starting to clear out. It’s had a negative update for 4 days so I couldn’t tell you what’s going on.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 18, 2019 14:27:19 GMT -5
Actually it's been gaining spins/audience over the last few days (albeit small amounts), it's merely unbulleted. IDK what that means for this though.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 18, 2019 17:19:10 GMT -5
Actually it's been gaining spins/audience over the last few days (albeit small amounts), it's merely unbulleted. IDK what that means for this though. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe if a song is over 20 weeks old and has lost its bullet, that it will go recurrent. Again, I might be wrong but unless this can get its bullet back by Sunday, it’s going to be done.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 18, 2019 17:23:08 GMT -5
Actually it's been gaining spins/audience over the last few days (albeit small amounts), it's merely unbulleted. IDK what that means for this though. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe if a song is over 20 weeks old and has lost its bullet, that it will go recurrent. Again, I might be wrong but unless this can get its bullet back by Sunday, it’s going to be done. Wrong chart, that's Billboard. For Mediabase it has to be 3 straight weeks of no bullet. So Carrie Underwood won't go recurrent this Sunday regardless.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 18, 2019 19:49:36 GMT -5
Still, this has all been very odd. If they don’t care if it goes recurrent on Billboard and it’s already a top 10 on Mediabase, what are they waiting on? Why keep it around?
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Post by Crimsonio on Apr 18, 2019 21:25:06 GMT -5
Carrie's team needs to make one final push and make it #10 then move on. Love Wins is still her best single this era and nothing will top it for me.
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Post by Anticonformity on Apr 19, 2019 2:10:36 GMT -5
Carrie's team needs to make one final push and make it #10 then move on. Love Wins is still her best single this era and nothing will top it for me. ugh so agree... one of her best songs for me!
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Apr 19, 2019 13:40:09 GMT -5
Still, this has all been very odd. If they don’t care if it goes recurrent on Billboard and it’s already a top 10 on Mediabase, what are they waiting on? Why keep it around? Agreed. If they don’t care, they might as well move on to single #3
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