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Post by travelrocks24 on Mar 5, 2019 5:25:54 GMT -5
I wonder if Mom and Dad driving their kids around hear this song on the radio, and ask who Alanis, TLC and other non country artists that are name dropped on this song are.
If nothing else, this song is a good homage to what was some good music and some of it holds up 20 years later.
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Post by austin on Mar 5, 2019 10:24:40 GMT -5
I LOVE this song, and hoped it would be her biggest hit. But I also don't think we can sit here and say radio has ANY interest in Lauren Alaina, which keeps getting posted in her threads and others.
Radio is sexist. It's black and white and its a fact. But beyond that, singles from Carly Pearce, Maren Morris, Kelsea Ballerini and even Runaway June are out performing this at radio, and in a big way. Lauren's only hit was bought by OTV. The most obvious smash she has ever released ('Next Boyfriend') stalled before the Top 40, and though I personally HATE 'Doin' Fine', most of you didn't which shows me it could connect with the type of people who make up her fan base. Yet radio literally didnt spin it once for the first TWELVE WEEKS, and it took A YEAR to Peak at like #25 or something.
I personally think shes talented and still LOVE this song. Radio IS NOT interested in her nor do they give an eff about supporting her. Their support is with Carly Pearce in the new female artist realm.
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Post by pnobelysk on Mar 6, 2019 0:19:10 GMT -5
^^ agree 300% above. Regardless of talent, radio isnβt here for this girl and honestly she doesnβt connect with listeners at large. Country radio has a huge issue with female artists yes, but I think for Lauren itβs bigger than that.
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Post by jab820 on Mar 6, 2019 17:12:56 GMT -5
I LOVE this song, and hoped it would be her biggest hit. But I also don't think we can sit here and say radio has ANY interest in Lauren Alaina, which keeps getting posted in her threads and others. Radio is sexist. It's black and white and its a fact. But beyond that, singles from Carly Pearce, Maren Morris, Kelsea Ballerini and even Runaway June are out performing this at radio, and in a big way. Lauren's only hit was bought by OTV. The most obvious smash she has ever released ('Next Boyfriend') stalled before the Top 40, and though I personally HATE 'Doin' Fine', most of you didn't which shows me it could connect with the type of people who make up her fan base. Yet radio literally didnt spin it once for the first TWELVE WEEKS, and it took A YEAR to Peak at like #25 or something. I personally think shes talented and still LOVE this song. Radio IS NOT interested in her nor do they give an eff about supporting her. Their support is with Carly Pearce in the new female artist realm. You pointed out precisely the problem: radio support is with Carly Pearce in the new female artist realm as if they can only support one new female artist at a time. That is precisely radio's sexism.
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Post by darko on Mar 6, 2019 18:07:46 GMT -5
I LOVE this song, and hoped it would be her biggest hit. But I also don't think we can sit here and say radio has ANY interest in Lauren Alaina, which keeps getting posted in her threads and others. Radio is sexist. It's black and white and its a fact. But beyond that, singles from Carly Pearce, Maren Morris, Kelsea Ballerini and even Runaway June are out performing this at radio, and in a big way. Lauren's only hit was bought by OTV. The most obvious smash she has ever released ('Next Boyfriend') stalled before the Top 40, and though I personally HATE 'Doin' Fine', most of you didn't which shows me it could connect with the type of people who make up her fan base. Yet radio literally didnt spin it once for the first TWELVE WEEKS, and it took A YEAR to Peak at like #25 or something. I personally think shes talented and still LOVE this song. Radio IS NOT interested in her nor do they give an eff about supporting her. Their support is with Carly Pearce in the new female artist realm. You pointed out precisely the problem: radio support is with Carly Pearce in the new female artist realm as if they can only support one new female artist at a time. That is precisely radio's sexism. Well Kellsie and Maren are in a slightly different success bracket. Runaway Juneβs song has struggled to get to where it is and only recently has started to move steadily. I think the comparison of Lauren and Carly is an interesting one. I think the love story has been played beautifully by her and Rays camp. Radio seem to love their relationship more then The others around. The bottom line is radios sexism and the fact that they donβt Have enough spins set aside for women so someone always has to get the short straw. This week Laurenβs getting more Carly less. Not sure what will ultimately happen with this run, but in other areas of measuring success most notably in her placement in festival schedules she is doing well.
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Post by someguy on Mar 9, 2019 12:58:30 GMT -5
I wonder if Mom and Dad driving their kids around hear this song on the radio, and ask who Alanis, TLC and other non country artists that are name dropped on this song are. If nothing else, this song is a good homage to what was some good music and some of it holds up 20 years later. TBH I think mom and dad will know who they are moreso than their kids.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 18, 2019 19:56:50 GMT -5
Good news: Lauren Alaina got 5 Mediabase adds this week, and also landed on the Top 10 Billboard adds tied for 4th with 9 adds (Billboard adds are when a station on the panel plays a song 7 times in a week for the first time)
Bad news" "Ladies In The 90s" did lose its bullet on Billboard this week and since it is at 20 weeks Lauren Alaina has to rebullet in order to stay on the chart.
I do think with the new adds on Mediabase she should be fine and I am glad this song is still hanging in there. At this point, I will take a Top 40 to Top 30 finish and be satisfied.
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Post by lipe on Mar 18, 2019 22:32:06 GMT -5
Apparently she was shooting the music video today!
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Post by cubs on Mar 19, 2019 22:20:56 GMT -5
^^ agree 300% above. Regardless of talent, radio isnβt here for this girl and honestly she doesnβt connect with listeners at large. Country radio has a huge issue with female artists yes, but I think for Lauren itβs bigger than that.
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Post by cubs on Mar 19, 2019 22:23:11 GMT -5
^^ agree 300% above. Regardless of talent, radio isnβt here for this girl and honestly she doesnβt connect with listeners at large. Country radio has a huge issue with female artists yes, but I think for Lauren itβs bigger than that. I think Lauren has a better voice than Maren, Kelsey,and Carly. I don't understand why radio won't play her over them.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Mar 20, 2019 8:48:25 GMT -5
I wonder if Lauren would do well in a solo tour in small venues (1,500 person capacity).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 10:16:17 GMT -5
Dropping in just to say a few words.
For a single that dropped in October to have barely cracked the Top 40 near the end of March is quite interesting. I guess one of my biggest questions is this: If weβre following a line of logic in which country radio allows or disallows songs to be hits, why was βThe Road Less Traveledβ able to make it to #1 while Kelsea Ballerini was also charting #1 singles from The First Time? Laurenβs biggest hit was scored when Kelsea was also scoring back-to-back chartoppers. I donβt think female competition is the problem.
Personally, I think this song may have a higher burnout rate. I know that I was burnt out after streaming it for a few days and donβt react the same way to music released by other female artists (Kelsea, Kacey, Maren, Carrie, Carly, etc). I think the song is catchy and fun, but perhaps not lead-single material.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 20, 2019 10:25:25 GMT -5
Dropping in just to say a few words. For a single that dropped in October to have barely cracked the Top 40 near the end of March is quite interesting. I guess one of my biggest questions is this: If weβre following a line of logic in which country radio allows or disallows songs to be hits, why was βThe Road Less Traveledβ able to make it to #1 while Kelsea Ballerini was also charting #1 singles from The First Time? Laurenβs biggest hit was scored when Kelsea was also scoring back-to-back chartoppers. I donβt think female competition is the problem. Personally, I think this song may have a higher burnout rate. I know that I was burnt out after streaming it for a few days and donβt react the same way to music released by other female artists (Kelsea, Kacey, Maren, Carrie, Carly, etc). I think the song is catchy and fun, but perhaps not lead-single material. Because The Road Less Traveled was an OTV selection. Not only did Lauren Alaina score her first top ten hit, but first chart topper as well.
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Post by jab820 on Mar 20, 2019 14:13:05 GMT -5
Dropping in just to say a few words. For a single that dropped in October to have barely cracked the Top 40 near the end of March is quite interesting. I guess one of my biggest questions is this: If weβre following a line of logic in which country radio allows or disallows songs to be hits, why was βThe Road Less Traveledβ able to make it to #1 while Kelsea Ballerini was also charting #1 singles from The First Time? Laurenβs biggest hit was scored when Kelsea was also scoring back-to-back chartoppers. I donβt think female competition is the problem. Personally, I think this song may have a higher burnout rate. I know that I was burnt out after streaming it for a few days and donβt react the same way to music released by other female artists (Kelsea, Kacey, Maren, Carrie, Carly, etc). I think the song is catchy and fun, but perhaps not lead-single material. Because The Road Less Traveled was an OTV selection. Not only did Lauren Alaina score her first top ten hit, but first chart topper as well. OTV certainly has a lot to do with why RLT was able to crack the top 25 (maybe everything to do with it), but OTV promo stopped right about there. If you remember, the song began to flounder around the 26-23 range for a while before hitting top 20 and taking off from there. Radio didn't have to push the song into the top 20, nor all the way to #1, but it did without the OTV mandate. This song is doing exactly what Next Boyfriend did and will be lucky to do what Doin' Fine did. In both instances, radio gave these songs consistent adds and showed promising starts, but failed to really support anything beyond top 50. It's maddening. Lauren has hinted at a headlining tour coming up, which would make sense since she is not a part of any summer tour at this point. Though I would love to see her continue to chart singles and be a huge mainstream success, it's looking like she will likely take the Cassadee Pope/Walker Hayes/Raelynn route of tending to her solid fanbase, touring, and putting out music with less attention on radio. Again, it's maddening.
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Post by stanches2318 on Mar 20, 2019 15:07:31 GMT -5
also the relevance meaning also helped "Road Less Travelled" because It talked about what Lauren went through. "Ladies..." is a good song but its forgettable just like "Doin Fine"
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 20, 2019 17:43:20 GMT -5
also the relevance meaning also helped "Road Less Travelled" because It talked about what Lauren went through. "Ladies..." is a good song but its forgettable just like "Doin Fine" The other two singles are just autobiographical as "Road Less Traveled" was, actually. All of them are written in a way that makes them universal, but all 3 came from Alaina's personal experiences.
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Post by lipe on Mar 21, 2019 7:03:37 GMT -5
also the relevance meaning also helped "Road Less Travelled" because It talked about what Lauren went through. "Ladies..." is a good song but its forgettable just like "Doin Fine" The other two singles are just autobiographical as "Road Less Traveled" was, actually. All of them are written in a way that makes them universal, but all 3 came from Alaina's personal experiences. Yeah, I don't get the point. Doin' Fine is as personal as a song can be, and Ladies in the 90's also talks about her past and about how important it was for her to look up for other women. Knowing how hard it is for women in country music, this song has HUGE 'relevance meaning'
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Post by matty005 on Mar 21, 2019 9:21:38 GMT -5
also the relevance meaning also helped "Road Less Travelled" because It talked about what Lauren went through. "Ladies..." is a good song but its forgettable just like "Doin Fine" The other two singles are just autobiographical as "Road Less Traveled" was, actually. All of them are written in a way that makes them universal, but all 3 came from Alaina's personal experiences. Good point. And on top of that, why does any song have to be autobiographical at all? There are plenty of non autobiographical songs by men that have no problems being hits.
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Post by stanches2318 on Mar 21, 2019 10:36:45 GMT -5
The other two singles are just autobiographical as "Road Less Traveled" was, actually. All of them are written in a way that makes them universal, but all 3 came from Alaina's personal experiences. Good point. And on top of that, why does any song have to be autobiographical at all? There are plenty of non autobiographical songs by men that have no problems being hits. the songs dont have to autobiographical. and I didn't mention anything about guys. just the qualities of the two songs compared to "Road Less Traveled" are not as good, that's my point.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 21, 2019 20:15:58 GMT -5
Good point. And on top of that, why does any song have to be autobiographical at all? There are plenty of non autobiographical songs by men that have no problems being hits. the songs dont have to autobiographical. and I didn't mention anything about guys. just the qualities of the two songs compared to "Road Less Traveled" are not as good, that's my point. And I think both songs are significantly better than RLT so maybe you're just stating a personal preference and there is no "point."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 20:41:29 GMT -5
I wish Doin' Fine had been a big hit. I also think Road Less Traveled is a stellar song and very deserving of reaching number one (regardless of reasons of why it happened). But Ladies is weak for me. And while it doesn't matter in the least nowadays, it's so poppy that I don't know why it wasn't released to pop radio, as i think the name dropping would have been a hook for listeners.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Mar 21, 2019 20:52:28 GMT -5
I really like Lauren Alaina and want to see her be the next big artist in Country and she definitely deserves it but tbh this song already burned on me, whereas "Doin' Fine" was in my Top 5 most played songs 2 years ago this song just isn't doing it for me. I like the song well enough but I am finding myself skipping it more often than not lately. I will say I don't think this song is too poppy for Country radio especially when you hear the current songs that Florida Georgia Line, Lee Brice, Maren Morris, and Thomas Rhett have out currently that are all turning into decent sized hits (some bigger than others of course).
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Post by zaclord π on Mar 21, 2019 21:49:04 GMT -5
Agreed that I like this one a lot, but I'm pretty over it at this point. I much prefer "Doin' Fine" and RLT and those burned a lot slower on me than this. I would still love for this to turn into a hit because I love Lauren so much and think she's way too talented to flop, but I'd love her to take the Maddie & Tae route and release some new songs while we wait on radio to turn this into a moderate hit or let it burn out. Best case scenario this has a run like "Friends Don't" at this point anyway.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 24, 2019 20:25:03 GMT -5
"Ladies In The 90s" sets a new peak on Mediabase moving up 3 spots to #41 and just outside the Top 40. Gaining 119 spins and 210k in audience, which unfortunately indicates overnight spins bur gains are gains and I will take it with this song.
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Post by carriekins on Mar 25, 2019 8:35:44 GMT -5
This is showing 11 adds already this morning - Cumulus block, I assume. Should hopefully breathe some life into it.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 25, 2019 9:34:36 GMT -5
It seems like this one is starting to do a little better lately and has me cautiously optimistic that it'll hang in there! After all, with the way country radio works this one still has like 7-8 more months to possibly turn into a hit.
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Post by EvanJ on Mar 29, 2019 17:11:59 GMT -5
I wonder if Mom and Dad driving their kids around hear this song on the radio, and ask who Alanis, TLC and other non country artists that are name dropped on this song are. If nothing else, this song is a good homage to what was some good music and some of it holds up 20 years later. I just listened to it, and I missed the reference to Alanis. Other than Country, Britney got mentioned the most along with Christina and Spice Girls at the end. Most of the music was from 1998 or 1999 rather than the middle of the decade, but that's because she was born in 1994. Alanis had one of the highest selling albums ever. I expect TLC to be the artist mentioned who is least familiar to moms and dads who don't know many genres. It make me think of statements of women not being popular on Country radio. Shania and Faith were very popular, and I don't know much about Deana Carter. I wonder what the woman here who died (I don't remember her username) who tweeted as WindmillsCountry would think of the song and what Lauren would think of WindmillsCountry. I will say I don't think this song is too poppy for Country radio especially when you hear the current songs that Florida Georgia Line, Lee Brice, Maren Morris, and Thomas Rhett have out currently that are all turning into decent sized hits (some bigger than others of course). I'd say it's more Country than Keith and Carrie's "The Fighter."
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Post by travelrocks24 on Mar 30, 2019 9:35:02 GMT -5
I wonder if Mom and Dad driving their kids around hear this song on the radio, and ask who Alanis, TLC and other non country artists that are name dropped on this song are. If nothing else, this song is a good homage to what was some good music and some of it holds up 20 years later. I just listened to it, and I missed the reference to Alanis. Other than Country, Britney got mentioned the most along with Christina and Spice Girls at the end. Most of the music was from 1998 or 1999 rather than the middle of the decade, but that's because she was born in 1994. Alanis had one of the highest selling albums ever. I expect TLC to be the artist mentioned who is least familiar to moms and dads who don't know many genres. It make me think of statements of women not being popular on Country radio. Shania and Faith were very popular, and I don't know much about Deana Carter. I wonder what the woman here who died (I don't remember her username) who tweeted as WindmillsCountry would think of the song and what Lauren would think of WindmillsCountry. At the very end, "You Oughta Know" is mentioned.....
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Post by jab820 on Apr 15, 2019 10:57:46 GMT -5
Can anybody pull how long it took "Doin' Fine" to hit top 40? This song is looking like it might do so tonight. Both songs had/are having a hell of a time getting to the top 40, but once "Doin Fine" finally did, it was able to move up to top 25 at rather moderate pace.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 15, 2019 15:07:51 GMT -5
Can anybody pull how long it took "Doin' Fine" to hit top 40? This song is looking like it might do so tonight. Both songs had/are having a hell of a time getting to the top 40, but once "Doin Fine" finally did, it was able to move up to top 25 at rather moderate pace. Took "Doin Fine" 29 weeks to hit the Top 40 on Billboard in addition to not charting for a good month after the add date. Compared to "Ladies In The 90s" which set a new peak this week at #40 entering the Billboard Top 40 in it's 24th week. So looks like "Ladies In The 90s" is at a bit of a faster pace than "Doin Fine" is as of right now.
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