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Post by stanches2318 on May 28, 2019 1:53:44 GMT -5
Her video for this song is boring. It doesn’t match the song. I hate to say it cuz she’s one of my favs right now in music.
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Post by Anticonformity on May 28, 2019 3:16:26 GMT -5
Her video for this song is boring. It doesn’t match the song. I hate to say it cuz she’s one of my favs right now in music. You mean the LYRIC video?
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 28, 2019 4:07:02 GMT -5
Every song with a female voice that wasn't Maren Morris, Kelsea Ballerini, and Carrie Underwood struggled in the Mediabase Top 50. Lauren Alaina, Ashley McBryde, and Carly Pearce all lost their bullet. Kacey Musgraves has waved the white flag, Tenille Townes is barely moving an inch on the chart. Runaway June is crawling along with horrible sales. Even songs that are male/female didn't have a great week Lady Antebellum had their expected fallback week after their huge debut last week and the Brantley Gilbert & Lindsay Ell duet has really slowed down. I know it is asking a lot for country radio, but can we have at least 1 or 2 of these lesser known female artists (Lauren Alaina, Lindsay Ell, Runaway June, Ashley McBryde, Carly Pearce) get a Top 5 hit that isn't OTV assisted. Instead of beating up country radio, why don't you ask the listeners why they dislike each individual song? 1. It is country radio's fault, not the listeners. 2. It sounds like you're making the assumption that the callout research used by stations is indicative of a majority opinion of listeners. It's not. It is seriously flawed and more often than not skews in favor of inoffensive fluff and away from almost anything that sounds different from that narrow scope. I've been listening to country radio for 15 years and never once have I given or been asked to give any sort of measurable feedback to radio, and I know that's the case for most people. "Ladies in the 90s" despite lower airplay and being off the charts for several weeks is still holding up as well or better on iTunes than songs by much bigger male artists (Rascal Flatts, Brantley Gilbert, Tim McGraw, Cole Swindell), several of which have far more audience. There's clearly an audience that wants to hear it.
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Post by jamatthews83 on May 28, 2019 4:15:05 GMT -5
Her video for this song is boring. It doesn’t match the song. I hate to say it cuz she’s one of my favs right now in music. You mean the LYRIC video? No, the video was released this morning.
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Post by Wackadoodle on May 28, 2019 4:24:29 GMT -5
Instead of beating up country radio, why don't you ask the listeners why they dislike each individual song? 1. It is country radio's fault, not the listeners. 2. It sounds like you're making the assumption that the callout research used by stations is indicative of a majority opinion of listeners. It's not. It is seriously flawed and more often than not skews in favor of inoffensive fluff and away from almost anything that sounds different from that narrow scope. I've been listening to country radio for 15 years and never once have I given or been asked to give any sort of measurable feedback to radio, and I know that's the case for most people. "Ladies in the 90s" despite lower airplay and being off the charts for several weeks is still holding up as well or better on iTunes than songs by much bigger male artists (Rascal Flatts, Brantley Gilbert, Tim McGraw, Cole Swindell), several of which have far more audience. There's clearly an audience that wants to hear it. That’s a very interesting discussion you’ve proposed about the flawed methodology of research. I agree. Just like politics, pollsters could be wrong and we need to figure where there was a gap in measuring the audience. Thanks for bringing this up. We should start a thread for this honestly lol.
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Post by Anticonformity on May 28, 2019 4:43:21 GMT -5
You mean the LYRIC video? No, the video was released this morning. Sorry! Didn't even notice as there was no announcement anywhere and couldn't find it on youtube...
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Post by recordyear on May 28, 2019 4:59:45 GMT -5
No, the video was released this morning. Sorry! Didn't even notice as there was no announcement anywhere and couldn't find it on youtube... It was released about six hours ago on youtube.
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Post by raylatch98 on May 28, 2019 5:49:38 GMT -5
Simple music video, but fun to watch and Lauren Alaina looks great like usual.
Also yeah callout scores are flawed, there is no 2 ways about it. TThey always favor men with maybe 1 or 2 female songs not instantly tanking in callout (right now that is "Girl" and maybe "Buy My Own Drinks"). Why do women struggle so much? Because of flawed research that skews against them as country radio has basically brainwashed those listeners that female voices equals bad.
I will say country radio has gotte slightly better in the last couple of years with the women in country radio problem. Kelsea Ballerini and Maren Morris both have really made their mark on the genre. Carly Pearce hasn't done half bad herself. But the problem is still there and I don't see how it gets better. I will just be a pessimist about it and if they surprise me than good. But I have no faith they will.
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Post by austin on May 28, 2019 8:24:34 GMT -5
I love this song and always will but why even bother giving it a music video if the budget is just above the cost of a McDouble at McDonalds? This is two videos in a row of hers that look cheap as all hell. What's even more baffling is if you aren't going to risk a lot of money in a video anyway, why wait so long to shoot and film? Its minimal investment and probably could have been a decent boost in exposure for this song if released 4 months ago. Weird.
She's going to get dropped and its really unfortunate. Her two best singles (this and Next Boyfriend) both flopped and there is no explanation other than the current sexist state of radio. This song was a smash.
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Post by raylatch98 on May 28, 2019 8:28:55 GMT -5
I love this song and always will but why even bother giving it a music video if the budget is just above the cost of a McDouble at McDonalds? This is two videos in a row of hers that look cheap as all hell. What's even more baffling is if you aren't going to risk a lot of money in a video anyway, why wait so long to shoot and film? Its minimal investment and probably could have been a decent boost in exposure for this song if released 4 months ago. Weird. She's going to get dropped and its really unfortunate. Her two best singles (this and Next Boyfriend) both flopped and there is no explanation other than the current sexist state of radio. This song was a smash. I think the label is gonna give her 1 last shot with whatever is next after this. But if that flops (more than likely it will) than I see her getting dropped.
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Post by stanches2318 on May 28, 2019 8:52:12 GMT -5
I love this song and always will but why even bother giving it a music video if the budget is just above the cost of a McDouble at McDonalds? This is two videos in a row of hers that look cheap as all hell. What's even more baffling is if you aren't going to risk a lot of money in a video anyway, why wait so long to shoot and film? Its minimal investment and probably could have been a decent boost in exposure for this song if released 4 months ago. Weird. She's going to get dropped and its really unfortunate. Her two best singles (this and Next Boyfriend) both flopped and there is no explanation other than the current sexist state of radio. This song was a smash. In my head I pictured her laying on the floor with the CDs of he people she is singling about next to her and then her dreaming of being in the past videos of those artists, that’s how I would have done it.
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Post by josh106788 on May 28, 2019 16:47:45 GMT -5
Lauren deserved so much better with this song. 😔
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Post by bigd79 on May 28, 2019 17:06:50 GMT -5
I saw at lunchtime today that the video was released(FINALLY) and then when i got done watching it i was like....we waiting that long for THIS? The lyric video is miles better! Who's idea was it to revolve it around a shopping channel? It made no sense to me. Definitley not what i was expecting, although i guess im not sure what i was expecting, just know it wasn't that.
I just feel bad for her and this song. From the first time i heard it last october i thought it was a guranteed top 5 hit, maybe #1. As much as females struggle i was still convinced this was gonna be huge. Radio just baffles me sometimes.
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Post by matty005 on May 28, 2019 17:14:40 GMT -5
I saw at lunchtime today that the video was released(FINALLY) and then when i got done watching it i was like....we waiting that long for THIS? The lyric video is miles better! Who's idea was it to revolve it around a shopping channel? It made no sense to me. Definitley not what i was expecting, although i guess im not sure what i was expecting, just know it wasn't that. I just feel bad for her and this song. From the first time i heard it last october i thought it was a guranteed top 5 hit, maybe #1. As much as females struggle i was still convinced this was gonna be huge. Radio just baffles me sometimes. The shopping channel was selling all 90s related things. I think that was the connection they were trying to make but I agree with you. It all fell very flat.
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Post by 14887fan on May 28, 2019 17:16:00 GMT -5
Omg y’all are clueless about ‘90s infomercials/TV shopping/QVC and it shows. I thought the video was great. A total play on what women were stereotyped to, and her version of taking down that stigma. She had fun with it.
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Post by jab820 on May 28, 2019 19:21:25 GMT -5
This has to be why there was no formal announcement of the music video - this is HUGE for her. Lauren hasn't truly headlined a whole tour yet (she did a small one in 2012 to promote "Eighteen Inches" and technically headlined the Idol tour), so this is a huge step forward. Especially considering she is the solo main act: not sharing the headlining status with anyone (Russel Dickerson and Carly Pearce's joint tour come to mind). Good for her.
I am unconvinced her label is all that worried about her radio success. This song was also a risk and they knew it. Sure, it would be nice, but us chart watchers are more keen on this than anyone else. Regardless of recent lack of radio 'success', Lauren's name is undeniably growing bigger and is regarded as one of the biggest newer faces. And after headlining an abundance of spring/summer music festivals, this is a perfect next step.
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Post by bigd79 on May 28, 2019 23:10:47 GMT -5
Omg y’all are clueless about ‘90s infomercials/TV shopping/QVC and it shows. I thought the video was great. A total play on what women were stereotyped to, and her version of taking down that stigma. She had fun with it. Oh i remember shopping channels, QVC, etc.. i just don't see what it has to do with the song. She's singing about Britney Spears and all these other 90s artists. I think a much better video would have been getting her friends together, maybe dressing up a little like some of these singers, and doing some sort of karaoke type thing. Maybe she even gets one of them to guest in it, idk. Maybe i'm thinking too big here. I just feel like it could have so much better.
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Post by 14887fan on May 28, 2019 23:12:34 GMT -5
Omg y’all are clueless about ‘90s infomercials/TV shopping/QVC and it shows. I thought the video was great. A total play on what women were stereotyped to, and her version of taking down that stigma. She had fun with it. Oh i remember shopping channels, QVC, etc.. i just don't see what it has to do with the song. She's singing about Britney Spears and all these other 90s artists. I think a much better video would have been getting her friends together, maybe dressing up a little like some of these singers, and doing some sort of karaoke type thing. Maybe she even gets one of them to guest in it, idk. Maybe i'm thinking too big here. I just feel like it could have so much better. Dressing up and going out? That’s 50% of music videos.
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Post by mikem on May 29, 2019 12:15:33 GMT -5
I saw that her tour will include a couple weeks in the UK in July.
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Post by ClevelandRox on May 29, 2019 12:55:17 GMT -5
That wasn't the video I expected or wanted for this song. It had it's moments though and to any other song I probably wouldn't have minded as much. :/
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Post by stanches2318 on May 29, 2019 15:59:27 GMT -5
She should have made the video almost like "2002" by Anne-Marie. Where she could've included parts of every song she mentions.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 30, 2019 13:49:51 GMT -5
Yikes, that music video was absolutely horrid. It just felt like it lacked any energy at all, which is in total contrast to the song itself, and Lauren Alaina looked uncomfortable and awkward throughout the entire thing. She didn't look like she enjoyed a single minute of that shoot. And yeah, the budget was clearly not there for her yet again. Choosing to focus it entirely around home shopping was too one-dimensional for the lyrical content. It also felt strange to deliberately film the majority of the video in a way that made it look like it was cheap video quality. They could've easily given it a throwback feel in many ways other than grainy picture quality. Since the song revolves less around 90s memorabilia and more so on 90s female music icons and their anthemic songs, it was pretty tone deaf to have her just stand there for most of the video playing with random crap. The song is about strong female role models and how they shaped her adolescence, not material things like slap bracelets.
The only video in her career thus far that was actually great is the one for "Next Boyfriend," but everything else has been dismal. She has one of the most disappointing videographies of any female country artist I can think of. This is sad. I was hoping they'd drop a fire visual and try to save this one, but with it floundering on radio, it's probably a lost cause... which is a shame because this had smash written all over it.
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Post by someguy on Jun 2, 2019 8:01:25 GMT -5
The video was an interesting idea, though I think that the idea was better than the execution. It's unfortunate that the song stalled out in the 30s, though I don't know what else they could have done to push it.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jun 2, 2019 22:38:50 GMT -5
Yeah.....that music video was horrendous. I get what they were trying to do with the QVC-like stuff from the 90s, but this is extremely low budget that it’s hard to watch. Lauren and this song deserve better.
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Post by loveofmusic on Jun 2, 2019 23:00:28 GMT -5
I thought the music video could have been better & not the concept I was expecting. BTW, Did anyone notice the YT video has it labeled as "Ladie's in the 90's?" Oops.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jun 3, 2019 8:11:54 GMT -5
Well UMG Nashville looks to have finally let go of promotion for this song. Negative bullet of 235.
Happy this made the Top 40, but man I thought this was gonna go at least Top 20 first time I heard it. I imagine the label will probably have another new single out in time for her headlining tour this fall. Whatever that single is, I think it will be the last chance to get a hit.
Radio does like Lauren Alaina (this did get a solid add date out of the gate) as does the general public evident by this song selling well. It's just the freaking flawed research that killed this one, I swear the people that are tested on for the callout scores are probably deeply sexist against women.
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Post by stanches2318 on Jun 3, 2019 8:59:19 GMT -5
Well UMG Nashville looks to have finally let go of promotion for this song. Negative bullet of 235. Happy this made the Top 40, but man I thought this was gonna go at least Top 20 first time I heard it. I imagine the label will probably have another new single out in time for her headlining tour this fall. Whatever that single is, I think it will be the last chance to get a hit. Radio does like Lauren Alaina (this did get a solid add date out of the gate) as does the general public evident by this song selling well. It's just the freaking flawed research that killed this one, I swear the people that are tested on for the callout scores are probably deeply sexist against women. I disagree. About the sexist part. The problem with the song is that majority of the songs and singers she mentions were associated with pop with the exception of Reba and Deana, plus the song is not a song for the charts. It’s a fun song with a catchy chorus and lyric. “90’s Country” by Walker Hayes went nowhere, because itself is not a chart friendly song. like Lauren’s it is also fun to sing . If they were sexist than how come hers did better than his. Lauren’s next single, needs to be a song that can be relatable and meaningful.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jun 3, 2019 9:19:07 GMT -5
Well UMG Nashville looks to have finally let go of promotion for this song. Negative bullet of 235. Happy this made the Top 40, but man I thought this was gonna go at least Top 20 first time I heard it. I imagine the label will probably have another new single out in time for her headlining tour this fall. Whatever that single is, I think it will be the last chance to get a hit. Radio does like Lauren Alaina (this did get a solid add date out of the gate) as does the general public evident by this song selling well. It's just the freaking flawed research that killed this one, I swear the people that are tested on for the callout scores are probably deeply sexist against women. I disagree. About the sexist part. The problem with the song is that majority of the songs and singers she mentions were associated with pop with the exception of Reba and Deana, plus the song is not a song for the charts. It’s a fun song with a catchy chorus and lyric. “90’s Country” by Walker Hayes went nowhere, because itself is not a chart friendly song. like Lauren’s it is also fun to sing . If they were sexist than how come hers did better than his. Lauren’s next single, needs to be a song that can be relatable and meaningful. Because "90s Country" was never full on pushed to country radio. That's why this song did slightly better. "90s Country" was more of a buzz single to country radio than anything. You can't say that Lauren Alaina being a female artist did not play a role in this song failing. It absolutely did, because callout scores are heavily biased against women and the people who fill those out tend to not like female singers on impulse and that is kind of sexist. Oh also a song that "Is a fun song with a catchy chorus and lyric" is the definition of a radio single. If a song is fun or easy to sing along with that makes it more of a radio single.
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Post by matty005 on Jun 3, 2019 9:34:30 GMT -5
Well UMG Nashville looks to have finally let go of promotion for this song. Negative bullet of 235. Happy this made the Top 40, but man I thought this was gonna go at least Top 20 first time I heard it. I imagine the label will probably have another new single out in time for her headlining tour this fall. Whatever that single is, I think it will be the last chance to get a hit. Radio does like Lauren Alaina (this did get a solid add date out of the gate) as does the general public evident by this song selling well. It's just the freaking flawed research that killed this one, I swear the people that are tested on for the callout scores are probably deeply sexist against women. I disagree. About the sexist part. The problem with the song is that majority of the songs and singers she mentions were associated with pop with the exception of Reba and Deana, plus the song is not a song for the charts. It’s a fun song with a catchy chorus and lyric. “90’s Country” by Walker Hayes went nowhere, because itself is not a chart friendly song. like Lauren’s it is also fun to sing . If they were sexist than how come hers did better than his. Lauren’s next single, needs to be a song that can be relatable and meaningful. They are sexist because they don't play women. Period. One example of a similar song by a female doing slightly better does not change that.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 3, 2019 10:35:09 GMT -5
Well UMG Nashville looks to have finally let go of promotion for this song. Negative bullet of 235. Happy this made the Top 40, but man I thought this was gonna go at least Top 20 first time I heard it. I imagine the label will probably have another new single out in time for her headlining tour this fall. Whatever that single is, I think it will be the last chance to get a hit. Radio does like Lauren Alaina (this did get a solid add date out of the gate) as does the general public evident by this song selling well. It's just the freaking flawed research that killed this one, I swear the people that are tested on for the callout scores are probably deeply sexist against women. I disagree. About the sexist part. The problem with the song is that majority of the songs and singers she mentions were associated with pop with the exception of Reba and Deana, plus the song is not a song for the charts. It’s a fun song with a catchy chorus and lyric. “90’s Country” by Walker Hayes went nowhere, because itself is not a chart friendly song. like Lauren’s it is also fun to sing . If they were sexist than how come hers did better than his. Lauren’s next single, needs to be a song that can be relatable and meaningful. Not trying to be rude, but no part of this argument really makes any sense. Country radio is sexist, that is an unshakeable fact so to be dismissive of it as such is just plain wrong. Also, there were just as many female country references as there are pop ones (you mentioned Reba and Deana, but she also has nods to songs by Shania Twain, Faith Hill, and Dixie Chicks), and it's not like the female audience that grew up on the likes of Reba and Shania aren't familiar with several of the pop references (practically everyone knows Britney's debut single, i.e.). Saying it isn't a song for the charts because its fun and catchy is also perplexing, as raylatch98 already pointed out above. Lastly, the Walker Hayes song to my knowledge never actually went for adds and seemed like it got a full push at radio, it just kind of hung around for a bit. Even still, he's had 1 hit to his name thus far and makes very polarizing music, so it's not surprising that Lauren's song out-performed his. It's a shame this song is done. It really should've done better on the charts than "Doin' Fine" did, given how much better this one was selling and considering it had a solid start with adds out of the gate, but like "Next Boyfriend," I just don't understand how it flopped.
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