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Post by staythenight on Jul 8, 2005 20:56:00 GMT -5
While i agree with what ur saying hector but when u define "IT" for 2005 u cant include sales from 2004, if u look at sales in 2005 she hasnt sold more albums than Mariah.....but so far Kelly has more hits than the other two.......but i really think the "IT" should have mass appeal in all genres of music and styles....i think kelly is definatly the biggest thing in POP
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2005 20:57:09 GMT -5
I just think the "it" person is someone who is absolutely everywhere. They're having huge hits, huge album sales, and they're everywhere in the promotional circuit.
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Post by kellydicted on Jul 8, 2005 21:08:32 GMT -5
While i agree with what ur saying hector but when u define "IT" for 2005 u cant include sales from 2004, if u look at sales in 2005 she hasnt sold more albums than Mariah.....but so far Kelly has more hits than the other two.......but i really think the "IT" should have mass appeal in all genres of music and styles....i think kelly is definatly the biggest thing in POP Yea, I guess you're right about the sales being within 2005 but luckily Billboard disagrees and includes sales stemming as far back as November in their year-end tallies. And I don't understand what you're saying about her not having appeal on other genres. "Breakaway" is the #1 song of the year on AC and has been at the top for 19 weeks. She went to #1 on the Dance charts and even managed to chart on Rythmic! She has two songs in the top 5 for the year on Hot AC not to mention her Pop success. BTW, I'm not saying she's definately the It person for the year, but certainly deserves to be a contender.
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Post by staythenight on Jul 8, 2005 21:17:34 GMT -5
She definatley is a contender along with Gwen, Coldplay, Mariah........and surprised nobody mentioned this guy even though i hate him! he has had huge hits and biggest album of all so 50 should be there!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2005 21:22:55 GMT -5
The difference with 50 is that he hasn't really been all over this year. Sure he's all over the radio and his album is big, but it seems like left over success and a less successful version of his former self.
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Post by staythenight on Jul 8, 2005 21:27:50 GMT -5
The difference with 50 is that he hasn't really been all over this year. Sure he's all over the radio and his album is big, but it seems like left over success and a less successful version of his former self. that is true he is not as in ur face as his first project thank god for us he is busy shooting a movie eminem style
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Post by britrocks16 on Jul 8, 2005 21:55:32 GMT -5
I just think the "it" person is someone who is absolutely everywhere. They're having huge hits, huge album sales, and they're everywhere in the promotional circuit. Exactly. Kelly is having huge hits but her album sales aren't HUGE. Huge is like what 50 Cent is doing and that really isn't do big, lol. And she really isn't doing to much promotion so thats why i don't think she's "It". However she is a contender.
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Post by Love4Shania on Jul 8, 2005 22:24:15 GMT -5
Shania was huge in 1997, 1998 & 1999.
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Post by britrocks16 on Jul 8, 2005 23:24:37 GMT -5
Shania was huge in 1997, 1998 & 1999. Shania made have moved albums and got good airplay but in no way was she the "It" person. In 1997 it was the Spice Girls, in 1998 it was the Backstreet Boys and 1999 was Britney for sure!
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Post by drock89 on Jul 9, 2005 0:36:57 GMT -5
Shania made have moved albums and got good airplay but in no way was she the "It" person. In 1997 it was the Spice Girls, in 1998 it was the Backstreet Boys and 1999 was Britney for sure! I don't know, she moved more albums in those years and was all over the award shows. I mean, I will give you that BSB and BS were huge too, but that was Come On Over's hayday..definetly country's IT for 1995-2000.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Jul 9, 2005 1:02:03 GMT -5
'99 was definitely Backstreet Boys' year IMO. They broke the record for highest-selling first week (at the time) and were absolutely everywhere - seriously, could you go a day w/o hearing "I want it that way" at some point during that time? And their concerts were selling out huge, I couldn't even get tickets for that tour. Britney was doing very well, especially for a debut artist, but she wasn't absolutely HUGE yet @ that point. By '00 she was definitely up there, and I agree that she'd share being "it" for that year w/ *NSYNC.
As for this year, I think to be an "it" person/band, you don't necessarily have to be a media whore, but you have to be so incredibly popular and big that you get attention for the littlest things, whether you ask for it or not. As much as I love Kelly, I don't think her level of celebrity is quite there. You don't see her on TV a lot, and there aren't papparazi checking for her every move as of yet. Her stardom isn't all-encompassing right now, which I think you need to be as "it" as possible. A few months ago I would've said "it" would be Gwen Stefani, but now i'll have to go with Mariah, mainly because of the interesting angle her renewed success brings...when was the last time an artist that has not only been around for over a decade, but managed to pick themselves up from previous album dissapointments so well? That NEVER happens. She gets a lot of attention, is breaking airplay records left and right, and hell even Macy's fireworks 4th of July special had her as the sole performer! I don't think a major network would do that for Kelly or Gwen right now.
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Post by Purple Dreams on Jul 9, 2005 4:03:14 GMT -5
Their airplay was nowhere near Usher's. Did NSYNC ever get a number one hit on the Hot 100? "Its Gonna Be Me" hit #1. And "Bye Bye Bye" was #1 on Pop for 10 weeks! And their airplay may have not been as much but thats only because Usher has Urban airplay. I think Bye Bye Bye hit #1 on Rhythmic and BOMT went Top 10 on Rhythmic, so their airplay was fairly good compared to Usher. And plus they sold much more than Usher. BOMT sold 14M, NSA has sold well over 12M but its certified 11xp. Thanks for the NSYNC info. We can't really compare their album sales to Usher though because album sales started decreasing in 2000. Earlier this year it looked like 50 Cent would dominate the year the same way Usher dominated 2004 but he's lost a lot of steam.
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Post by dear on Jul 9, 2005 8:31:19 GMT -5
i can't believe no one said alicia keys was the "it person" in 2001-2002 Grammy's that was her year for sure.
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Post by allow that on Jul 9, 2005 9:41:26 GMT -5
i can't believe no one said alicia keys was the "it person" in 2001-2002 Grammy's that was her year for sure. Because she didn't come out til 2001 was half over and basically only had one huge single. I'd easily say 2004 was her "peak year" so far.
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Post by Love4Shania on Jul 9, 2005 12:02:35 GMT -5
Shania was huge in 1997, 1998 & 1999. Shania made have moved albums and got good airplay but in no way was she the "It" person. In 1997 it was the Spice Girls, in 1998 it was the Backstreet Boys and 1999 was Britney for sure! Just to compare Album sales, Shania Twain1) - Come On Over - Shania Twain (1997) 1997 - 1.6m - 1,600,000 sold in 1997 1998 - 6,492,526 - 4,900,000 sold in 1998 1999 - 12,110,660 - 5,618,134 sold in 1999 2000 - 13,652,045 - 1,541,385 sold in 2000 2001 - 14,147,017 - 494,972 sold in 2001 2002 - 14,490,470 - 343,453 sold in 2002 2003 - 14,896,911 - 406,441 sold in 2003 2004 - 15,267,050 - 370,139 sold in 2004 feb 2005 - 15,284,000. Backstreet Boys4) - Millenium - Back Street Boys (1999) 1999 - 9,445,732 - 9,445,732 sold in 1999 2000 - 11,705,375 - 2,259,643 sold in 2000 2001 - 11,971,132 - 265,757 sold in 2001 2002 - 12,030,804 - 59,672 sold in 2002 2003 - 12,056,675 - 25,871 sold in 2003 2004 - 12,069,000 - 12,325 sold in 2004 12) - Back Street Boys - Back Street Boys (1997) 1997 - 1.3m - 1,300,000 sold in 1997 1998 - 7m - 5,700,000 sold in 1998 1999 - 9,258,265 - 2,300,000 sold in 1999 2000 - n/a 2001 - n/a 2002 - n/a 2003 - n/a 2004 - n/a mar 2004 - 10,067,000 Britney Spears10) - Baby One More Time - Britney Spears (1999) 1999 - 8,358,619 - 8,358,619 sold in 1999 2000 - 9,981,434 - 1,622,815 sold in 2000 2001 - 10,269,049 - 287,615 sold in 2001 2002 - 10,416,070 - 147,021 sold in 2002 2003 - 10,472,878 - 56,808 sold in 2003 2004 - 10,507,000 - 34,122 sold in 2004 www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22680&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0Shania has been the most consistant of the 3. Britney and BB are the type that sell big initially from a craze then burn out. I guess it is how you perceive the word "IT"...what does that mean? Album sales? Influential impact? Longevity? Touring success? Airplay? Chart Success? Worldwide appeal? Media Exposure?
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Post by britrocks16 on Jul 9, 2005 12:29:30 GMT -5
"It" is the person that is everywhere like all the time! When you turn the tv on, you see them. When you turn the radio on, you hear them. When your looking in magazines, you see them! Shania had the airplay and sales but was she really the person of the year? no i don't think so. Britney and BSB were bigger and they had a bigger effect on the public than Shania. Shania's last album sold 3M which is alot and it easily outsold Britney who pretty much flopped in the USA. But WW, their GH have done pretty much the same, I think Britney might even be ahead.
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Post by agon666 on Jul 9, 2005 13:13:00 GMT -5
1990: Hammer, Janet Jackson 1991: Mariah Carey, Nirvana 1992: Metallica, Pearl Jam, Garth Brooks 1993: Whitney Houston 1994: Boyz II Men 1995: Hootie & The Blowfish 1996: Alanis Morissette 1997: Spice Girls 1998: Backstreet Boys, Shania Twain 1999: Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys 2000: 'N Sync, Creed, Santana 2001: Alicia Keys, Linkin Park 2002: Nelly, Eminem, Avril Lavigne 2003: 50 Cent, Norah Jones 2004: Usher ~Green Day 2005: Mariah Carey
Remember back to the end of December last year? Boulevard just hit #1 on Alt, the album hit #1 for one or two weeks. They were on all the late-night talk shows, ect. For a span of about three to four months, Green Day was more "it" than any on I had ever seen.
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Post by agon666 on Jul 9, 2005 13:16:11 GMT -5
"It" is the person that is everywhere like all the time! When you turn the tv on, you see them. When you turn the radio on, you hear them. When your looking in magazines, you see them! Shania had the airplay and sales but was she really the person of the year? no i don't think so. Britney and BSB were bigger and they had a bigger effect on the public than Shania. Shania's last album sold 3M which is alot and it easily outsold Britney who pretty much flopped in the USA. But WW, their GH have done pretty much the same, I think Britney might even be ahead. Actually, if you were 18 or older, or you were listening to country music (which, in the late 90's, was monstourous), Shania was probably the "it" person... she was on TV, and she was a huge public figure, just not to the people you related to in the late 90's. It's not like her audience was pre-teens.
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Post by staythenight on Jul 9, 2005 13:19:37 GMT -5
1990: Hammer, Janet Jackson 1991: Mariah Carey, Nirvana 1992: Metallica, Pearl Jam, Garth Brooks 1993: Whitney Houston 1994: Boyz II Men 1995: Hootie & The Blowfish 1996: Alanis Morissette 1997: Spice Girls 1998: Backstreet Boys, Shania Twain 1999: Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys 2000: 'N Sync, Creed, Santana 2001: Alicia Keys, Linkin Park 2002: Nelly, Eminem, Avril Lavigne 2003: 50 Cent, Norah Jones 2004: Usher ~Green Day 2005: Mariah Carey Remember back to the end of December last year? Boulevard just hit #1 on Alt, the album hit #1 for one or two weeks. They were on all the late-night talk shows, ect. For a span of about three to four months, Green Day was more "it" than any on I had ever seen. its ur list but if you dont mind me putting in a couple of things 1995: Mariah should be in there (Daydream/hit singles 2003: Norah Jones lacks hit songs and promotional appeal
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Post by agon666 on Jul 9, 2005 13:33:06 GMT -5
1990: Hammer, Janet Jackson 1991: Mariah Carey, Nirvana 1992: Metallica, Pearl Jam, Garth Brooks 1993: Whitney Houston 1994: Boyz II Men 1995: Hootie & The Blowfish 1996: Alanis Morissette 1997: Spice Girls 1998: Backstreet Boys, Shania Twain 1999: Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys 2000: 'N Sync, Creed, Santana 2001: Alicia Keys, Linkin Park 2002: Nelly, Eminem, Avril Lavigne 2003: 50 Cent, Norah Jones 2004: Usher ~Green Day 2005: Mariah Carey Remember back to the end of December last year? Boulevard just hit #1 on Alt, the album hit #1 for one or two weeks. They were on all the late-night talk shows, ect. For a span of about three to four months, Green Day was more "it" than any on I had ever seen. its ur list but if you dont mind me putting in a couple of things 1995: Mariah should be in there (Daydream/hit singles 2003: Norah Jones lacks hit songs and promotional appeal Oh, it's not my list, it's a list that I liked from eariler in the topic and stole, adding Green Day and Mariah. But you certainly are right about Mariah.
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Post by allow that on Jul 9, 2005 14:16:31 GMT -5
I'd say TLC, Mariah, and Hootie were ALL "it" in 1995. TLC was absolutely massive at a time when Urban acts rarely crossed over.
Same goes for Fugees in 1996.
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Post by Love4Shania on Jul 9, 2005 14:19:58 GMT -5
"It" is the person that is everywhere like all the time! When you turn the tv on, you see them. When you turn the radio on, you hear them. When your looking in magazines, you see them! Shania had the airplay and sales but was she really the person of the year? no i don't think so. Britney and BSB were bigger and they had a bigger effect on the public than Shania. Shania's last album sold 3M which is alot and it easily outsold Britney who pretty much flopped in the USA. But WW, their GH have done pretty much the same, I think Britney might even be ahead. Hype doesn't necessarily mean you are "IT" ...look at Britney and the Backstreet Boys, with the amount of hype they received you would think their sales would have been consistant but their albums don't really have longevity because people lose interest in them, I doubt they even appeal to many people over 20 either. What some of you need to realize is that not everyone listens to pop radio, and just because your name is everywhere in the media is doesn't mean the public care, if anything it just spawns hate. The way I see it, the artist of the year should be the peoples decision, not the industry's or the media's. The best way to measure that would be through album sales and concert touring.
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Post by britrocks16 on Jul 9, 2005 14:32:22 GMT -5
Well, the britney was the "it" person for 1999 and 2000! BOMT was the 2nd best selling in 1999 and Oops was 2nd best selling in 2000! And her touring has always been huge!
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Post by Love4Shania on Jul 11, 2005 4:08:43 GMT -5
It also depends on what countries you take into consideration, Shania was much bigger than Britney and the Backstreet Boys in the UK, Europe, Canada, Australia etc. during 1999.
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Post by allow that on Jul 11, 2005 9:17:51 GMT -5
The thing about Britney/BSB/N Sync is that they were all "it" together. The teen-pop phenomenon was "it," just as the Latin Explosion was also "it." However, if you took any one of those acts (Britney/BSB/Ricky/Enrique, etc) and looked at them on an isolated basis, they were not as big as their hype.
I guess for 1999, instead of giving "it" to certain artists, you could that the "it" machines of 1999 were Teen Pop and the Latin Explosion.
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Post by jlh527 on Jul 12, 2005 18:11:35 GMT -5
The "IT" person will be different for each person depending on their favorite genre of music. In 1998 the it person was MONICA!!!! She had 3 count it three number one hits from the same album a feat at the time only accomplished by Janet, Whitney and Mariah. What prestigious company to keep for an 18 year old R&B Diva!! She made People Magazines 50 most beautiful peoples list and you simply could not escape her music.
Anyway, Celine had a HUGE year in 1998 as well, I hate that Titanic song now! LOL
Other artist who have been "IT" artists are TLC, Destiny's Child, Alanis (who ruled 1995), Boyz II Men, Hootie and so many others.
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Post by britrocks16 on Jul 12, 2005 19:02:05 GMT -5
Destiny's Child have never been "IT"!
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Post by Tyler46 on Jul 12, 2005 21:46:15 GMT -5
^ Are you serious?!!? They are one of the biggest female R&B groups of all-time. I mean they exploded with "Say my name" with multiple hits following and I believe they were IT in 2000/2001 in the urban community.
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Post by when the pawn... on Oct 5, 2006 19:16:18 GMT -5
For an update...(with years with multiple artists, they are listed in order of popularity...IMO). The list represents chart success and general domination of the music industry that year.
1990 - Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey 1991 - Mariah Carey 1992 - ? 1993 - Whitney Houston 1994 - Boys II Men 1995 - TLC, Hootie & The Blowfish, Alanis Morissette 1995/1996 - Mariah Carey 1996 - Alanis Morissette 1996/1997 - No Doubt 1997 - Spice Girls, Jewel, LeAnn Rhymes 1998 - Celiene Dion, Backstreet Boys, Shania Twain, Matchbox 20 1999 - Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, Ricky Martin, TLC 1999/2000 - Santana 2000 - NSYNC, Destiny's Child, Creed (unfortunately) 2001 - Alicia Keys, Ja Rule, Destiny's Child 2002 - Eminem, Avril Lavigne, Nelly 2003 - 50 Cent, Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera 2003/2004 - Outkast 2004 - Usher, Maroon 5, Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson 2004/2005 - Green Day 2005 - Green Day, Kelly Clarkson, Mariah Carey, Kanye West 2006 - Justin Timberlake, Beyonce
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Post by Jennifer on Oct 5, 2006 20:47:53 GMT -5
Britney was It in 2000 aswell.
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