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Post by cufan7 on Aug 24, 2008 12:42:02 GMT -5
I can honestly say I think Carrie will get a nomination for EOTY. I know I'm a fan and all, but I do think they'll give her one. And to be honest, I think if she gets a nomination, the buzz will be huge, and might just give her a win. Anyone agree? No. We'll see.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 24, 2008 15:30:11 GMT -5
Yes, it will cause a buzz. A female in the Entertainer category will be HUGE! Unfortunately though Kenny, Brad or Keith will walk away with it. I'd bet any amount of money it'll be Keith this year. I can feel it in my bones.
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Post by what on Aug 24, 2008 15:35:59 GMT -5
ohhh, that makes more sense.
yeah, the buzz will be huge, in the vein of carrie breaking the tradtion of having no females in eoty nominees. that part will be talked about a lot. but i dont see it huge enough to help her win the award this year.
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 24, 2008 17:42:08 GMT -5
Yes, it will cause a buzz. A female in the Entertainer category will be HUGE! Unfortunately though Kenny, Brad or Keith will walk away with it. I'd bet any amount of money it'll be Keith this year. I can feel it in my bones. Hasn't Carrie toured (headlining shows) more than Keith has this year? And Carrie has had better success on radio and album sales as well as staying in the public eye. If I'm wrong on any of these points call me out.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Aug 24, 2008 18:18:27 GMT -5
Hasn't Carrie toured (headlining shows) more than Keith has this year? The eligibility period for this year's CMAs runs from 1 July 2007 through 30 June 2008. Keith was on tour all of last summer and fall (with The Wreckers and then I think Gary Allan as his opening act). Here is the LiveDaily.com article announcing his initial summer tour dates and here is the LiveDaily.com article that lists his November and December tour dates. Keith Urban is a stronger individual tour draw than Carrie (you can check this thread for a sampling of Keith's concert grosses and attendance). Moreover, while Carrie's concerts have generally drawn very good reviews, Keith's generally get raves. To the extent that EotY is about being a live entertainer and draw, this isn't close; Carrie needs more time to develop her live show (though I think what she has done so far is really admirable). To the extent that overall success includes airplay and sales success with quality material, TV performances and representing the country music genre and whatnot, the gap shrinks. But still not enough for Carrie to contend for the win, in my view, although I do believe she deserves a nod this year based on her live show and overall success. Moreover, I'll be stunned if Carrie wins EotY before Brad, who has put in so much thought and creative energy into his concerts and has proven himself a strong headliner for several years. The industry's conventional wisdom seems to be that Brad will be the next new person to win EotY and that he is building his show up to that point. I hear more talk of Brad winning this eventually than I do of Rascal Flatts winning this, despite the fact that Rascal Flatts is currently a bigger tour draw (it doesn't get the critical plaudits that Keith, Brad and Kenny do).
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Post by tsharky on Aug 24, 2008 19:00:11 GMT -5
^ agree with dudley-- though of course I want Carrie to at least get an EOTY nomination this year-- to me, that is a Win. A nomination is a huge stepping stone and honor, in my opinion.
In a perfect world--- Keith Urban would win this year-- and Brad would win next year. Then- Carrie might take it the following year-- without as much resentment- and after her good friends got it first....In some ways, I think EOTY is about paying "dues"- lol-- it is not just about the ticket sales, album sales or chart success alone. So once Carrie gets nominated a first time- I have no problem with her not winning for a few years if they want to give it to Brad or Rascal Flats first- etc- as they have been waiting in the wing for a long time now-- waiting for kenny to lose to give someone else a shot. lol
I think that as much as I want Carrie to win EOTY someday-- I want her to win when it is not going to have a huge backlash of hate and resentment from fans of other artists. A nomination this year-- (and Carnival ride for album) would make me so happy. :)
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Post by jptexas on Aug 24, 2008 22:42:12 GMT -5
^ agree with dudley-- though of course I want Carrie to at least get an EOTY nomination this year-- to me, that is a Win. A nomination is a huge stepping stone and honor, in my opinion. In a perfect world--- Keith Urban would win this year-- and Brad would win next year. Then- Carrie might take it the following year-- without as much resentment- and after her good friends got it first....In some ways, I think EOTY is about paying "dues"- lol-- it is not just about the ticket sales, album sales or chart success alone. So once Carrie gets nominated a first time- I have no problem with her not winning for a few years if they want to give it to Brad or Rascal Flats first- etc- as they have been waiting in the wing for a long time now-- waiting for kenny to lose to give someone else a shot. lol I think that as much as I want Carrie to win EOTY someday-- I want her to win when it is not going to have a huge backlash of hate and resentment from fans of other artists. A nomination this year-- (and Carnival ride for album) would make me so happy. :) I agree that with more experience and work, Carrie hopefully will eventually win the EOTY award. But, only in a perfect world will be ever have NO backlash from other fans. It might be lessened because of time, but it'll be there. Even after three years out of idol and with all the enormous success that Carrie's had, we still see alot of backlash from every subsequent win. But less is better that more. jmo
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Post by desertfloods on Aug 25, 2008 0:21:48 GMT -5
I think Carrie will get a nom for EOTY too. Just a gut feeling.
But it's definitely not time for her to win it yet. Even as a fan, I think it will be weird if she wins it (backlash aside). She still needs more experience... it has only been her first headlining tour!
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Post by carriefan0209 on Aug 25, 2008 0:22:21 GMT -5
right now a nominations is a win for me. she probably wont win...but the nomination is good enough haha
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 25, 2008 8:11:21 GMT -5
In a perfect world--- Keith Urban would win this year-- and Brad would win next year. Then- Carrie might take it the following year-- without as much resentment- and after her good friends got it first....In some ways, I think EOTY is about paying "dues"- lol-- it is not just about the ticket sales, album sales or chart success alone. So once Carrie gets nominated a first time- I have no problem with her not winning for a few years if they want to give it to Brad or Rascal Flats first- etc- as they have been waiting in the wing for a long time now-- waiting for kenny to lose to give someone else a shot. lol I pretty much agree with all you said. Keith and Brad should get it before Carrie. A few years from now if Carrie's tours are just as successful as Keith's and Brad's then she'll definately deserve it and I'll be cheering her on. I still go with my prediction that Keith will take the Entertainer trophy home. I'm really happy with "You Look Good in My Shirt" hitting #1. Brad might take the trophy home but I'd like to see Keith take it home a little more. Wouldn't be surprised if Brad got it though.
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Post by Zach on Aug 25, 2008 8:17:55 GMT -5
I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon and say Carrie is worthy of EOTY because the facts show she is not. Who is? Kenny Chesney is still the winner folks. I mean he brings a star packed show and plays to millions each year, no one else is touching that at this time. Now, Keith Urban puts on a great show and he would be my second pick to win based upon actual touring and live show, but Kenny is, based upon the facts, the obvious pick for winner.
As for my pick, I still am rooting for Brad to pick up this award. I know he's not bringing them in like Kenny/Keith, but his tour was not as big either. I mean Kenny/Keith play to stadiums while Brad is still in arenas. However, he makes sure you get your money's worth at his shows and has great opening acts.
Carrie may be worthy of a nomination, although I'm not quite convinced she is. With some of the arguments that have been made for her to be nominated, there are quite a few others that are also worthy of the nomination. Remind yourself that a few years ago Martina had some big tours, but she was never nominated for the award. I will say she, in a couple of years if she remains as she is now, will be eventually nominated- I just don't see it this year. Although, I'll admit, it would be nice to see a female in the list.
Also, I would look for Sugarland to be joining the list in a couple of years as well.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 25, 2008 10:54:03 GMT -5
I would easily look for Sugarland to join the list before Carrie.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 25, 2008 11:03:43 GMT -5
I would easily look for Sugarland to join the list before Carrie. I'd only imagine one group/duo would be in that category and that is still Rascal Flatts. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be in the category but it just won't happen. Maybe in a few years.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 25, 2008 11:43:40 GMT -5
I can't say I agree with you there.....if you think that, then you might as well think that only 1 male should be up for it.
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Post by Stephen on Aug 25, 2008 12:16:32 GMT -5
I would easily look for Sugarland to join the list before Carrie. I don't think so. Carrie has had more success than Sugarland has. I think both deserve nominations, but I see Carrie getting it first.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 25, 2008 12:27:13 GMT -5
I can't say I agree with you there.....if you think that, then you might as well think that only 1 male should be up for it. Well, no. The Entertainer category since the beginning has been dominated by men. That's the way it is. Look at all the nominations for the past decade. You're not gonna see two females or two duos/groups in the Entertainer category.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Aug 25, 2008 12:30:22 GMT -5
I realize that conversation is being driven partly by Carrie's lightning rod status in country music (for fans and non-fans of hers alike) and partly by the fact that a lot of her fans are participating in this thread. I'm not blaming any one person for this (nor am I blaming Carrie fans or Carrie non-fans), but the discussion's skew toward a couple of CMA categories with an emphasis on Carrie's place in them is really beginning to annoy me. And I'm getting concerned about a pointless back & forth ("Yes, she will!" "No, she won't!" "Will, too!" "Will not!" ) between a couple of usual suspects trying to get in the last word. If you're going to post in here, please make an effort to balance the artists/categories you cover in your posts. Thanks.
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Post by Stephen on Aug 25, 2008 14:28:30 GMT -5
What do you guys think are the odds that Chuck Wicks will win the Horizon Award? I think he deserves it. He's pretty good.
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Post by countryrules on Aug 25, 2008 15:04:16 GMT -5
Kellie Pickler should win, she's got a great profile going on and had that standing ovasion last year.. Miranda didn't win with her first album.. the only other artist who SHOULD win Horizon is Rodney Atkins... but who knows, i don't think Lady Antebellum has been all that successful in comparison to Rodney or Kellie... anyway good luck to everybody who gets a nomination. I still think that any award that gives CHESNEY a VOCALIST award has no credibility, same as if Britney's Grammy was for a VOCAL award, but since it was for Dance Recording it's alright.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 25, 2008 16:17:14 GMT -5
What do you guys think are the odds that Chuck Wicks will win the Horizon Award? I think he deserves it. He's pretty good. We don't even know if he'll be nominated. If he's nominated I think he stands as good of a chance as anybody else. I still have a strong feeling that Luke Bryan might get it since he was nominated last year and lost. Surprised that Jack Ingram beat him.
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Post by Zach on Aug 25, 2008 18:22:33 GMT -5
^Wrong award show. Taylor won last year. That was the ACMs I think.
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 25, 2008 20:36:07 GMT -5
I see big careers ahead of Chuck Wicks and Luke Bryan, they definitly stand out as new artists as Carrie, Rodney, and Taylor once did...
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Post by tsharky on Aug 25, 2008 22:15:49 GMT -5
I am curious about Stay winning single or song again at the CMAs: a part of me thinks they have it in the bag--- but I am also a little sick of that song myself-- and I am thinking the voters might be too... so they may go for something else this time around.
I think Small Town Southern Man might get some love for song of the year, if Stay loses.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 26, 2008 6:34:25 GMT -5
^Wrong award show. Taylor won last year. That was the ACMs I think. Oh, thanks! I don't know where my brain is today. Anyway, Taylor won't win this year so it'll be really interesting who will. Can't wait for this!
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Post by someguy on Aug 27, 2008 9:57:28 GMT -5
I think Lady Antebellum have an excellent shot at winning the Horizon award. They have one really big hit, a new single doing well, and their album has received a lot of critical acclaim (though I can't comment on that as I still have not heard it).
As far as Carrie and the EOTY, I think she has a great chance of getting a nomination (I would actually be very surprised if she wasn't nominated), however I'd be even more surprised if she actually won. She's on a great track to get the award eventually, but it's not her time yet.
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Post by jptexas on Aug 27, 2008 11:41:11 GMT -5
^^IMO, a nomination for Carrie would be considered a win by her fans. Besides, it would be nice to see a female on the list. Not for the sake of it, but because she's earned a spot on the list.
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Post by carriefan0209 on Aug 31, 2008 22:41:13 GMT -5
The deadline is approaching! Finalize your lists if you havent!
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Post by cufan7 on Sept 1, 2008 22:41:34 GMT -5
When was the last time a female was nominated for EOTY? And has a female ever won?
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Post by drock89 on Sept 1, 2008 22:46:24 GMT -5
When was the last time a female was nominated for EOTY? And has a female ever won? The last time a (solo) female won was 1999 and it was, tada, Shania Twain. The last time a (solo) female was nominated was a year later, in 2000, and the nomination went to Faith Hill, who lost to a "flock" of ladies, the Dixie Chicks.
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Post by sbp17 on Sept 2, 2008 3:23:41 GMT -5
If some of the long-time regulars read this, I hope you participate. I think it will be interesting to read your predictions. I posted my initial prediction before the thread got derailed countless times or I probably would have not posted either. But try to think about how enjoyable this thread would have been back in the ole days without all the intrusions.
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