Az Paynter
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 31, 2009 20:30:26 GMT -5
i disagree, this song is not over yet because it's still holding its position...It will be over when it's out the top 50..But still it's getting 626 spins, (yesterday had 634 spins), so it's not going down so quickly in my opinion.. :) 'Twill be #49 by this Sunday. Will be gone by the following Sunday. Think what you want but the numbers don't lie. :)
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Post by davidprincess on Mar 31, 2009 20:56:35 GMT -5
i disagree, this song is not over yet because it's still holding its position...It will be over when it's out the top 50..But still it's getting 626 spins, (yesterday had 634 spins), so it's not going down so quickly in my opinion.. :) 'Twill be #49 by this Sunday. Will be gone by the following Sunday. Think what you want but the numbers don't lie. :) i know that , nothing last forever, this song with the little promotion that had, it has been hanging around the top 50 for 3 months, so it's logic that it will go out the top 50 soon. But still it's #46, and it's still moving up on itunes, and it's doing well on Disney and XM20..and it's a good sign that it's moving on Itunes.. maybe until now people is starting to hear it or like it.. maybe this song only needed more time, more exposure and more radio adds, too bad that radio stations didn't give it a chance..But anyway that doesn't matter anymore, David still is selling his music without huge airplay, and his solo tour was a success.. ;) PS: also, i heard that it gained a couple of AC adds and one Pop radio add this week, is that true?? :)
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Mar 31, 2009 21:42:17 GMT -5
^^ No pop radio add that I know of. But yes to the 2 AC adds.
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baobabs727
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Post by baobabs727 on Apr 1, 2009 0:31:45 GMT -5
1) One man's "changing circumstances" is another man's historical revisionism. 2) It was over before it even began. Way over. 3) Altnoy was always more AC than CHR. The verse was but a lame attempt at bootstrapping. 4) Heck, David's vibe is just plain more AC than CHR. (No value judgment attached) 5) Lack of promo was not the problem. 6) There are no other legitimate radio contenders left from this album. 7) Do not drink the Kool Aid: It's laced with psychotropic substances. 8) But...If I'm being honest, I do kinda like the fact that our little Princess remains completely unfazed in spite of your best attempts to blast her off the map.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 1, 2009 3:42:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it "attempts to blast her off the map", I'd refer to it as "taking away the sugar paint, so the sugarcoating can cease". ;)
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Post by baobabs727 on Apr 1, 2009 13:15:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it "attempts to blast her off the map", I'd refer to it as "taking away the sugar paint, so the sugarcoating can cease". ;) Semantics do not interest me. So, whatever you want to call it, it is but a clumsy attempt to intimidate, to stifle, to silence--and all to no avail. ;) Better luck next time. "The General who knows neither himself nor his enemy will always be defeated." --Sun Tzu
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Post by Queen Britney & Beysus fan! on Apr 3, 2009 7:52:21 GMT -5
Go Archie! F off jive! They are purposely sabotaging David's career so that Cook can come out on top and so winning Idol doesn't seem like a joke. The talent difference between Cook & Archie is crazy(David A is #1). But I think it's sad & pathetic how Cook's people are obviously paying off radio not to pay Archie's songs. Sad, Cook and his fans should be ashamed!
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Post by ladymadonna on Apr 3, 2009 10:39:44 GMT -5
Go Archie! F off jive! They are purposely sabotaging David's career so that Cook can come out on top and so winning Idol doesn't seem like a joke. The talent difference between Cook & Archie is crazy(David A is #1). But I think it's sad & pathetic how Cook's people are obviously paying off radio not to pay Archie's songs. Sad, Cook and his fans should be ashamed! Wait, I'm confused. Just so I know who to be mad at, is it Jive that is purposely sabotaging David's career to make American Idol look better, or RCA and Cook's evil minions that are doing the dirty work? Even better - are you saying it's both?? Man I love a good conspiracy.
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Post by street on Apr 3, 2009 10:51:10 GMT -5
Crazy new conspiracy theories: Cook's "people" paying radio to not play Archie. However, RCA and 19 do want Cook to be a clear winner (specially since Simon Fuller manages him) so I do feel Archie has been underpimped ON the show. However, he will be appearing in May (supposedly). I wonder what he's going to perform??
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Post by tarin11 on Apr 3, 2009 10:57:25 GMT -5
Why on earth would Jive sabotage someone they would want to make as much money possible from to make the AI winner, that's not even signed to them, look better? I agree 19/AI haven't done anything to pimp Archie but that's a trend with runner-ups.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 3, 2009 11:04:40 GMT -5
Go Archie! F off jive! They are purposely sabotaging David's career so that Cook can come out on top and so winning Idol doesn't seem like a joke. The talent difference between Cook & Archie is crazy(David A is #1). But I think it's sad & pathetic how Cook's people are obviously paying off radio not to pay Archie's songs. Sad, Cook and his fans should be ashamed! Please don't. No one is sabotaging anyone. RCA/19 is just doing a lot better in the promotional arena compared to Jive, who is busy dealing with CB lol
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Post by mamaloveme on Apr 3, 2009 11:05:51 GMT -5
another single now!! Barries or Touch My Hand!!!
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Post by gemzone on Apr 3, 2009 11:14:00 GMT -5
I would love Barriers or Zero Gravity. My hope is that they re-release the album with Zero Gravity and Save the Day on it :)
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Post by mamaloveme on Apr 3, 2009 11:21:07 GMT -5
they should release the third single before re-release
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Post by Choco on Apr 3, 2009 11:57:41 GMT -5
they should release the third single before re-release I Agree. Without a new single the re-release would be a potential flop. He needs something to put on the radio before people forgets who's him.
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Post by davidprincess on Apr 3, 2009 13:38:30 GMT -5
On the possitive: the accomplisments of ALTNOY without national TV promotion: #1 on z100 ;) #It made the Billboard Pop Airplay.. #1 on Radio disney top 3, and #3 on Radio disney top 30. #10 On MTV3 #MTV played it a lot in January.. ;) #1 on XM20, and it made all the countdowns... #1 in many small radio stations.. #It peaked at #42 on mediabase.. and without many radio adds, this song got 758 spins with an audience of 3.9 Millions.. # it has sold over 120,000 on itunes.. #it has helped the cd sales with 173,000 copies.. The album had sold 500,000 copies by Dicember, plus the 173,000 albums that David has sold since January. 500,000+173,000= 673,000 = The album is close to hit 700,000 copies, without idol promotion and without a huge airplay!! :o :o I think we should be proud of David instead of complaining... Don't forget that he is a new artist and he doesn't have the promotion and advantages that idol winners have... :) changing of subject: Don't you think this guy in the picture looks alike Archie?? :o hahahaa. (his face and his sight reminds me of David..) lol..
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 3, 2009 13:55:01 GMT -5
Please don't. No one is sabotaging anyone. RCA/19 is just doing a lot better in the promotional arena compared to Jive, who is busy dealing with CB lol I agree--nobody is sabotaging David. That's ridiculous and makes zero sense. But RCA isn't doing better promotion for Cook. They're not promoting Cook much at all--19 Management is. That's the key difference--Simon Fuller has control over American Idol and all entities that have deals with American Idol. That means he'll put Cook to the forefront whenever he can on the biggest show on TV. And Cook will appear at 19-related events. RCA isn't doing the promotion; they're merely releasing the singles and dealing with airplay. Thus far, I don't see RCA's airplay push to be anything out of the ordinary great--it's very average work for a label. Nothing lesser or greater than what most artists get. Jive is doing the same for David--dealing with everything that has to do with his album (or albums, as could be the case by the end of the year), and singles. Oh, and the international promo and concert tours, and probably any future tours where he's paired with another artist. That ALTNOY didn't take off is a shame, but every label and nearly every artist has unsuccessful singles--this one isn't a special case. It just is. The only way we can know if Jive should have done something differently is if we had all the facts, and we don't. Azoff is David's management, and they're the ones promoting David. They're putting him on Hannah Montana and, in conjunction with Jive, had him record a duet with Miley, they're the ones that negotiated his appearance on Idol in May. They're the ones that get him in the press, on award shows, etc. Azoff is not 19--they don't have the backing of American Idol to get them things. They are a great management company, however, in that they really stick with their artists, and they don't abandon artists. David just has the promotion that most artists get who aren't managed by the executive producer of American Idol (except he does get a spot as a guest this year, which is awesome). Oh, and strangely, my CHR bumped ALTNOY up in rotation today.
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Post by Matt4319 on Apr 3, 2009 13:58:41 GMT -5
Time for a new thread. Can someone start it? :)
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