Why are female rappers usually not successful?

[Deleted]

I think it has a lot to do with them appealing mostly to men who like other men but I am curious about another perspective.

[PDC1987]

Because straight men only like attractive lesbians.

[David]

Because no one gives a shit what they have to say

[dbt88]

May 8, 2010 21:50:50 GMT -5 David said:

Because no one gives a s**t what they have to say

Females can't rap shit *Looks at Minaj*. Men don't dig female rappers, and females obviously aren't fan of female rappers as well.

[neverduplicated]

I think part of it is that rap is over-masculinized. Certainly not all, but most mainstream rap music seems to be about how big, bad, and tough you are, and how many girls you can bag. It comes off unattractive for a female to be so masculine yet simultaneously really girly rap would seem too feminine to fit in with the mainstream. Look at Missy Elliott - one of the only consistent female rappers out there, and she's often had a very masculine appearance and attitude.

[K.]

Because only men listen to rap, and those types of men can't relate to female themes.

[Tanisha Thomas.]

May 10, 2010 19:31:18 GMT -5 K. said:

Because only men listen to rap

Um, no.

[Nic (Britney Spears)]

Because rap sucks and gays have taste.

[Deleted]

May 11, 2010 6:45:41 GMT -5 Nic (Britney Spears) said:

Because rap sucks and gays have taste.

Yeah that makes sense because the whole world is gay and everything. Thanks for your input.

[Tanisha Thomas.]

Some of these comments are so dumb. IDK if y'all are trying to be funny or serious as a heart attack.

[Deleted]

On a serious note, I think the reason Minaj's first single isn't doing well is because Massive Attack is too top 40/CHR poppy. It's not seriously "gangsta" enough. She's gonna have to be more street.

[ΣGØ.©[/IMG]]

Because they think they have to go by this bulls**t standard of either rapping about sucking dick or rapping about the "streets"..which results in the same shit over and over. Mainstream female rappers at least. Lack of diversity is a problem with most mainstream rap in general. But that's one of the reasons why Nicki is so successful right now; because she stands out.

[ΣGØ.©[/IMG]]

May 11, 2010 12:12:33 GMT -5 @aaront said:

On a serious note, I think the reason Minaj's first single isn't doing well is because Massive Attack is too top 40/CHR poppy. It's not seriously "gangsta" enough. She's gonna have to be more street.

WTF? That's exactly what she doesn't need to do. Kim and Foxy listened to those same people who told them to take it back to the streets..and that's exactly where they're stuck now. Caring about street cred is for people who wanna make small money.

[Tanisha Thomas.]

May 11, 2010 13:01:07 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

Because they think they have to go by this bulls**t standard of either rapping about sucking dick or rapping about the "streets"..which results in the same s**t over and over. Mainstream female rappers at least. Lack of diversity is a problem with most mainstream rap in general. But that's one of the reasons why Nicki is so successful right now; because she stands out.

I agree with you, except for the "Nicki is so successful" part. Where?

[dbt88]

May 11, 2010 13:34:17 GMT -5 Tanisha Thomas. said:

May 11, 2010 13:01:07 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

Because they think they have to go by this bulls**t standard of either rapping about sucking dick or rapping about the "streets"..which results in the same s**t over and over. Mainstream female rappers at least. Lack of diversity is a problem with most mainstream rap in general. But that's one of the reasons why Nicki is so successful right now; because she stands out.

I agree with you, except for the "Nicki is so successful" part. Where?

She has yet to prove she the biggest thing for this year

[ΣGØ.©[/IMG]]

May 11, 2010 13:34:17 GMT -5 Tanisha Thomas. said:

May 11, 2010 13:01:07 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

Because they think they have to go by this bulls**t standard of either rapping about sucking dick or rapping about the "streets"..which results in the same s**t over and over. Mainstream female rappers at least. Lack of diversity is a problem with most mainstream rap in general. But that's one of the reasons why Nicki is so successful right now; because she stands out.

I agree with you, except for the "Nicki is so successful" part. Where?

Compared to other female rappers? Here, there, EVERYWHERE! She has more Billbord Hot 100 entires in 5 months than Trina does in 12 years.

[Tanisha Thomas.]

May 11, 2010 13:50:20 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

May 11, 2010 13:34:17 GMT -5 Tanisha Thomas. said:

I agree with you, except for the "Nicki is so successful" part. Where?

Compared to other female rappers? Here, there, EVERYWHERE! She has more Billbord Hot 100 entires in 5 months than Trina does in 12 years.

Aren't most of those features and group appearances? That's good, but I don't think her real success started yet.

[ΣGØ.©[/IMG]]

May 11, 2010 14:41:08 GMT -5 Tanisha Thomas. said:

May 11, 2010 13:50:20 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

Compared to other female rappers? Here, there, EVERYWHERE! She has more Billbord Hot 100 entires in 5 months than Trina does in 12 years.

Aren't most of those features and group appearances? That's good, but I don't think her real success started yet.

Wuh wrong wii yuh? Ya fi always hatin so! Gwan so cause mi cyant wii you, mi cyant!! Boi ya kno who yuh dun f**k wii, den?

[Deleted]

May 11, 2010 13:08:58 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

May 11, 2010 12:12:33 GMT -5 @aaront said:

On a serious note, I think the reason Minaj's first single isn't doing well is because Massive Attack is too top 40/CHR poppy. It's not seriously "gangsta" enough. She's gonna have to be more street.

WTF? That's exactly what she doesn't need to do. Kim and Foxy listened to those same people who told them to take it back to the streets..and that's exactly where they're stuck now. Caring about street cred is for people who wanna make small money.

Then let's re-phrase. They need to promote her to the right format. I really think if she were being pushed more mainstream that she would be getting at least a little more attention.

[ΣGØ.©[/IMG]]

May 11, 2010 18:05:17 GMT -5 @aaront said:

May 11, 2010 13:08:58 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

WTF? That's exactly what she doesn't need to do. Kim and Foxy listened to those same people who told them to take it back to the streets..and that's exactly where they're stuck now. Caring about street cred is for people who wanna make small money.

Then let's re-phrase. They need to promote her to the right format. I really think if she were being pushed more mainstream that she would be getting at least a little more attention.

woohoooo WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!! owwwww!!! iAgree. She nees to work her way there though.

[Tanisha Thomas.]

May 11, 2010 18:09:27 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

May 11, 2010 18:05:17 GMT -5 @aaront said:

Then let's re-phrase. They need to promote her to the right format. I really think if she were being pushed more mainstream that she would be getting at least a little more attention.

woohoooo WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!! owwwww!!! iAgree. She nees to work her way there though.

In other words, she has to suck her way to the top. I would rather her to get to the top the old fashioned and classy way.

[troyboyeee]

I gives props to Nicki Minaj. But if it wasn't for all the Lil Wayne fans she would still be underground. Yes she has TONS of features but that doesn't make it her song. Look at "Massive Attack" been out for almost 2 months and doesn't even chart on Pop, Rhythmic, or Urban Radio. Has it even charted on Billboard. *FLOP* Best video by a female rapper in a long time though.

Trina on the other hand doesn't have to do features to make her money. "Million Dollar Girl" charted on Pop (#77), Rhythmic (#26), & Urban (#39). Also her new single is downing good currently on Urban @ #29. Million Dollar Girl is doing good on Billboard respectfully. Rap Songs - # 20, Hip/Hop R&B - # 59. Trina's new single is currently @ # 56 on Hip/Hop R&B. She has had 5 singles on the Hot 100.

Trina has sold 2.6 million albums which makes her a platinum selling artist. 1 album going platinum & 2 albums going gold. Plus 5 albums under her belt. The first female rapper to do so. You talk to me when Nicki Minaj even comes close to Trina's status. And she don't even need a Platinum selling Male Rapper to help her carrer, *cough* but Nicki does. HHHMMM... Trina is the only one on the grind and doing it up BAD BITCH STYLE !

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May 11, 2010 18:55:37 GMT -5 Tanisha Thomas. said:

May 11, 2010 18:09:27 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

woohoooo WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!! owwwww!!! iAgree. She nees to work her way there though.

In other words, she has to suck her way to the top. I would rather her to get to the top the old fashioned and classy way.

In other words she can't just show up unannounced to pop radio solo, she should keep introducing herself through features first.

+ I was high yesterday. Don't judge my replies.

[ΣGØ.©[/IMG]]

May 12, 2010 8:46:07 GMT -5 troyboyeee said:

I gives props to Nicki Minaj. But if it wasn't for all the Lil Wayne fans she would still be underground. Yes she has TONS of features but that doesn't make it her song. Look at "Massive Attack" been out for almost 2 months and doesn't even chart on Pop, Rhythmic, or Urban Radio. Has it even charted on Billboard. *FLOP* Best video by a female rapper in a long time though.

Trina on the other hand doesn't have to do features to make her money. "Million Dollar Girl" charted on Pop (#77), Rhythmic (#26), & Urban (#39). Also her new single is downing good currently on Urban @ #29. Million Dollar Girl is doing good on Billboard respectfully. Rap Songs - # 20, Hip/Hop R&B - # 59. Trina's new single is currently @ # 56 on Hip/Hop R&B. She has had 5 singles on the Hot 100.

Trina has sold 2.6 million albums which makes her a platinum selling artist. 1 album going platinum & 2 albums going gold. Plus 5 albums under her belt. The first female rapper to do so. You talk to me when Nicki Minaj even comes close to Trina's status. And she don't even need a Platinum selling Male Rapper to help her carrer, *cough* but Nicki does. HHHMMM... Trina is the only one on the grind and doing it up BAD BITCH STYLE !

All that, and her album still did like 25k first week last week.

And Trina has no platinum albums, who are you trying to fool? She hasn't released an album that was certified anything in 8 years. =\

[troyboyeee]

May 12, 2010 9:26:56 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

May 12, 2010 8:46:07 GMT -5 troyboyeee said:

I gives props to Nicki Minaj. But if it wasn't for all the Lil Wayne fans she would still be underground. Yes she has TONS of features but that doesn't make it her song. Look at "Massive Attack" been out for almost 2 months and doesn't even chart on Pop, Rhythmic, or Urban Radio. Has it even charted on Billboard. *FLOP* Best video by a female rapper in a long time though.

Trina on the other hand doesn't have to do features to make her money. "Million Dollar Girl" charted on Pop (#77), Rhythmic (#26), & Urban (#39). Also her new single is downing good currently on Urban @ #29. Million Dollar Girl is doing good on Billboard respectfully. Rap Songs - # 20, Hip/Hop R&B - # 59. Trina's new single is currently @ # 56 on Hip/Hop R&B. She has had 5 singles on the Hot 100.

Trina has sold 2.6 million albums which makes her a platinum selling artist. 1 album going platinum & 2 albums going gold. Plus 5 albums under her belt. The first female rapper to do so. You talk to me when Nicki Minaj even comes close to Trina's status. And she don't even need a Platinum selling Male Rapper to help her carrer, *cough* but Nicki does. HHHMMM... Trina is the only one on the grind and doing it up BAD BITCH STYLE !

All that, and her album still did like 25k first week last week.

And Trina has no platinum albums, who are you trying to fool? She hasn't released an album that was certified anything in 8 years. =\

"Da Baddest"(2000) sold over a million = Platinum, "Diamond Princess"(2002) & "Glamorest Life"(2005) both sold over 500,000 = Gold. Get your facts straight before you talk numbers. That's my job hunny, numbers all day long. I work for Billboard and report back to them. Not that it matters or that it is much of a difference but "Amazin" sold 34k it's first week. More than Bone Thugs & 8Ball&MJG who usually sell more albums than Trina. Lets talk numbers baby !

[Tanisha Thomas.]

May 12, 2010 8:46:07 GMT -5 troyboyeee said:

I gives props to Nicki Minaj. But if it wasn't for all the Lil Wayne fans she would still be underground. Yes she has TONS of features but that doesn't make it her song. Look at "Massive Attack" been out for almost 2 months and doesn't even chart on Pop, Rhythmic, or Urban Radio. Has it even charted on Billboard. *FLOP* Best video by a female rapper in a long time though.

Trina on the other hand doesn't have to do features to make her money. "Million Dollar Girl" charted on Pop (#77), Rhythmic (#26), & Urban (#39). Also her new single is downing good currently on Urban @ #29. Million Dollar Girl is doing good on Billboard respectfully. Rap Songs - # 20, Hip/Hop R&B - # 59. Trina's new single is currently @ # 56 on Hip/Hop R&B. She has had 5 singles on the Hot 100.

Trina has sold 2.6 million albums which makes her a platinum selling artist. 1 album going platinum & 2 albums going gold. Plus 5 albums under her belt. The first female rapper to do so. You talk to me when Nicki Minaj even comes close to Trina's status. And she don't even need a Platinum selling Male Rapper to help her carrer, *cough* but Nicki does. HHHMMM... Trina is the only one on the grind and doing it up BAD BITCH STYLE !

First female rapper to do what? Missy Elliott is the best selling solo female rap artist of all time (not including Lauryn Hill). Lil Kim has a double Platinum album. Trana could NEVER!

[troyboyeee]

May 12, 2010 9:38:15 GMT -5 Tanisha Thomas. said:

May 12, 2010 8:46:07 GMT -5 troyboyeee said:

I gives props to Nicki Minaj. But if it wasn't for all the Lil Wayne fans she would still be underground. Yes she has TONS of features but that doesn't make it her song. Look at "Massive Attack" been out for almost 2 months and doesn't even chart on Pop, Rhythmic, or Urban Radio. Has it even charted on Billboard. *FLOP* Best video by a female rapper in a long time though.

Trina on the other hand doesn't have to do features to make her money. "Million Dollar Girl" charted on Pop (#77), Rhythmic (#26), & Urban (#39). Also her new single is downing good currently on Urban @ #29. Million Dollar Girl is doing good on Billboard respectfully. Rap Songs - # 20, Hip/Hop R&B - # 59. Trina's new single is currently @ # 56 on Hip/Hop R&B. She has had 5 singles on the Hot 100.

Trina has sold 2.6 million albums which makes her a platinum selling artist. 1 album going platinum & 2 albums going gold. Plus 5 albums under her belt. The first female rapper to do so. You talk to me when Nicki Minaj even comes close to Trina's status. And she don't even need a Platinum selling Male Rapper to help her carrer, *cough* but Nicki does. HHHMMM... Trina is the only one on the grind and doing it up BAD BITCH STYLE !

First female rapper to do what? Missy Elliott is the best selling solo female rap artist of all time (not including Lauryn Hill). Lil Kim has a double Platinum album. Trana could NEVER!

I said first female rapper to have 5 solo albums. I know there are female rappers that have sold more than her I'm very aware of that. I can talk numbers too. I never said Trina is the best selling female artist. I just said she sold 2.6 millions albums which is good for a female rapper and up there with the best of them. That's all.

[Tanisha Thomas.]

Missy Ellliott has six solo albums.

[troyboyeee]

May 12, 2010 9:52:54 GMT -5 Tanisha Thomas. said:

Missy Ellliott has six solo albums.

Missy Elliott is in a league of her own. The same with Lauryn Hill. They aren't considered under the textbook definiton of a female rapper. They are lyricist that sing as well. She is a female spits lyrics and sings too she isn't a female rapper. At least not a true definition of one. Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, Eve, Trina, Nicki Minaj, Rasheeda, Ebony Eyez, Remy Ma, Shawnna, all female rappers. Get it. Got it. Good lol.

[ΣGØ.©[/IMG]]

May 12, 2010 9:38:14 GMT -5 troyboyeee said:

May 12, 2010 9:26:56 GMT -5 ΣGØ.©[/IMG] said:

All that, and her album still did like 25k first week last week.

And Trina has no platinum albums, who are you trying to fool? She hasn't released an album that was certified anything in 8 years. =\

"Da Baddest"(2000) sold over a million = Platinum, "Diamond Princess"(2002) & "Glamorest Life"(2005) both sold over 500,000 = Gold. Get your facts straight before you talk numbers. That's my job hunny, numbers all day long. I work for Billboard and report back to them. Not that it matters or that it is much of a difference but "Amazin" sold 34k it's first week. More than Bone Thugs & 8Ball&MJG who usually sell more albums than Trina. Lets talk numbers baby !

I don't care who you work for, Trina never had a platinum album. I could understand Baddest Bitch being certified platinum, but it's not even that! And Glamorous Life did not sell over 500,000 lmao f**k outta here. Where is the pr00f??