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Post by dzjx on Dec 11, 2014 14:58:51 GMT -5
I think this is probably her best, and don't forget 'I live For The Day'
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Post by dzjx on Dec 9, 2014 16:15:02 GMT -5
X Factor singles never chart on the main chart though? unless is this the winners single? I haven't been following this year.
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Post by dzjx on Dec 9, 2014 15:12:23 GMT -5
Where can I hear the radio mix?
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Post by dzjx on Dec 8, 2014 15:38:33 GMT -5
Thinking out loud returns to number one in the UK this week.
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Post by dzjx on Dec 6, 2014 6:21:43 GMT -5
Born To Die surged past Ultraviolence by one position this week on the BB 200 with BTD at 110 and UltraV at 111. Anyone know why this is?
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 18:16:38 GMT -5
I meant WMG, Katy is under WMG... lol stupid typos. Katy is on Capitol, which is owned by UMG. You were right the first time lol.
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 18:03:09 GMT -5
Damn that is probably the two best promo slots available her label must be really pulling for her to become the next big thing. Ive noticed she's under WMG does that company have any big female pop stars? they seem to be in abundance for UMG and SME but I don't think WMG have any? Katy Perry is under the UMG umbrella, but any other woman they have is either unheard of or is no longer successful. I know UMG have Katy Perry, they also have Lady Gaga and Rihanna. SME has Pink, Britney and Miley. But I was pointing out that WMG don't seem to have any, perhaps they are trying to make a big female to compete?
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 17:53:36 GMT -5
I'm surprised her previous peak was Aug 2009, right BEFORE Kanye-gate. That promo schedule is crazy for an album that has already sold 2 million in 3 weeks with the holiday season ahead. I thought someone said Gaga and Beyonce have also been on the cover of Time. Ooops I wrote it wrong, it was actually September 2009 was her last peak, sorry guys!
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 17:48:10 GMT -5
Damn that is probably the two best promo slots available her label must be really pulling for her to become the next big thing. Ive noticed she's under WMG does that company have any big female pop stars? they seem to be in abundance for UMG and SME but I don't think WMG have any?
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 17:42:33 GMT -5
DAMMIT I was trying to quote whoever pointed out that 1500 streams earns about as much money as one album sale does, but I hit the wrong post quote button and im on my phone so I can't go back without losing everything i just typed. Well this post is a response to that just so you know. Actually that kind of hits on the true problem i have with this...even before seeing your post my first thought was, they must have picked the number of streams that earn the label the same amount of money. Good to see that theory proven correct, but then that means they are basing this new chart at least partially on revenue - NOT on popularity as some insist the charts are supposed to measure. So which is it? We don't know, Billboard doesn't know, and even the labels might not know even though they're probably the ones who pushed for this. This brings to question what can truly be called 'popular.' just speaking personally the way i feel about people and songs that i only like enough to stream is not nearly as deep as how i feel about people and songs that i like so much that i want to buy them. Other people may feel differently. Im sure the artists involved think there's a difference between a stream and a purchase, especially since that 1500: 1 ratio doesn't seem to factor in THEIR revenue at at all. There's no consistent way to add it in. I know this was inevitable but frankly it's too many moving parts and will always be too messy to regard as an accurate measure of anything other than the labels' bottom line. And you know, i could live with that if they would just admit that is what it is meant to do. When they try to pass it off as a true aggregate of poplarity they just sound full of s**t to me. It was me who pointed that out, and these are good points you have raised. but in this day and age it is difficult for anyone to determine what is popular, I mean there are so many different ways of consuming music these days. I think though that just doing sales at this point seems really outdated its just not the only form of listening to music. if Ed Sheeran sells 2m albums worldwide and 20m illegal album downloads that are not counted but Madonna sells 3m albums worldwide and only 2m illegal download albums who has the most popular album? Its all very tricky and I don't think there is a right answer to this but I dont think solely sales show a true reflection of popularity anymore. And as for the counting popularity by revenue isnt a true measure. while that is arguable, it may help to point out that the gaming industry and the movie industry often cite revenue as a measure of popularity.
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 12:33:58 GMT -5
as a side note this month she is the most googled she has ever been worldwide, her previous peak being August 2009.
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 12:10:35 GMT -5
Perhaps they should go back to using raw $ to certify and chart albums? like how movies are charted based on how much $ they take in?
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 12:08:40 GMT -5
So if a person streams ONE song from an album 1,500 times, it will be considered 1 WHOLE album sale? In theory, yes. But in practice it's basically impossible. Take Trumpets by Jason Derulo, for example. If you really wanted to get him an album sale out of that song, you would have to listen to that one song for 90 hours and 30 minutes. That's almost 4 straight days of nothing but streaming that one song. Keep in mind for it to count as a sale, you'll need 1500 streams within the same tracking period. And 1 or 2 sales on the margin are not effecting anybody's totals in a meaningful way. yes but if 1500 people stream it once, then that counts as an album sale.
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 11:34:23 GMT -5
I agree with the singles artist vs. albums artist debate it does take away from that.
They should do what spoil me harder said, impose those rules on the streaming matter.
In one weeks period if a person streams 5 or more songs from an album then class that as an 'album point'.
in this case an album would need 300 'album points' to be classed as a sale of an album.
5 songs = 1 album point. 300 album points x 5 songs = 1500 plays in total.
This way it is more showing of an albums popularity rather than just one single.
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 9:04:02 GMT -5
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 8:44:43 GMT -5
Does Youtube views count as streaming to qualify for a TEA? I might be okay with it if they DON'T count Youtube, Pandora, etc. Only on-demand streaming should count. In fact, I think the BB Hot 100 should also only count on-demand streaming. Counting Youtube (esp. viral videos) is totally ridiculous. No it will only be on demand, no Youtube videos I believe.
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 8:43:56 GMT -5
I wanted to quote everyone who said 1500 streams are too low/ or they just plucked out a random number. but i couldn't be bothered. I fully agree with adding streaming numbers to the mix, the way we consume music is changing and the charts should reflect that. Even better if they do do the methodology they use in Finland as mentioned above that seems like a better way to gauge popularity of an album. The number of tracks needs to go with the regulation of album chart. If 5 track EP is an album according to Billboard then that should be factored in streaming too, meaning that 5 songs from an album is enough as a 1/1500 purchase. But yea, that figure 1/1500 is very interesting... that's too low for me. In the UK, 100 streams = 1 sale for singles chart. Why is the number too low? when it creates revenue of $9.00? which is about what an album sale creates?
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Post by dzjx on Nov 20, 2014 8:27:35 GMT -5
1,500 streams will be equal to an album sale. What in the world. I'm not opposed to including streaming in the chart, but that threshold is ridiculously low. No its not? 1500 streams is about $9.00 revenue, worked out at the industry streaming standard of $0.006 per stream. Thats enough to qualify for a TEA in my opinion. I wanted to quote everyone who said 1500 streams are too low/ or they just plucked out a random number. but i couldn't be bothered. I fully agree with adding streaming numbers to the mix, the way we consume music is changing and the charts should reflect that. Even better if they do do the methodology they use in Finland as mentioned above that seems like a better way to gauge popularity of an album. However i do not agree with this 10 track sales = one album sale to be included. I think it should be: BB 200 Album Sales + Streaming. BB H 100 Track Sales + Streaming + Radio. Hopefully the RIAA catches up now and dishes out certifications based on the new changes. we can see a return to getting platinum albums again!
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Post by dzjx on Nov 19, 2014 6:07:01 GMT -5
^^ I thought it was announced Taylor would be a guest mentor for a couple of weeks? or has that already happened?
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Post by dzjx on Nov 13, 2014 6:02:42 GMT -5
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Post by dzjx on Nov 7, 2014 18:39:55 GMT -5
^ People need to relax with that, Hilary got a Greatest Hits after 2 albums and one hit, then she got another Greatest hits after another studio album which had one moderate hit on.
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Post by dzjx on Nov 6, 2014 16:52:34 GMT -5
I knew she didn't know about the biggest first week sales record lol.
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Post by dzjx on Nov 5, 2014 19:32:56 GMT -5
I was watching TV the other night here in the UK and a new car advert came on with a remix of Konichiwa Bitches! get that decade old smash!
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Post by dzjx on Oct 28, 2014 14:51:55 GMT -5
Why has this thread not been locked yet? there is no confirmation of this being a single. I highly doubt there will be another single.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 27, 2014 7:00:19 GMT -5
Anyone know when this will be on Spotify UK?
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Post by dzjx on Oct 26, 2014 5:39:12 GMT -5
She sounds a bit like Nicole Scherzinger in parts of this song
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Post by dzjx on Oct 20, 2014 13:35:45 GMT -5
Well who knows how long it was there really. Could be 6 months. The president of Capitol wants LL, but Katy and her team, EMI, and Universal all want WOA. I thought EMI was bought off by Warner and Universal?
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Post by dzjx on Oct 19, 2014 18:16:08 GMT -5
I doubt they release another single
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Post by dzjx on Oct 18, 2014 16:25:57 GMT -5
her body looks amazing. Is that britney double female? She looks exactly like her! Not sure if this was serious? But I think someone photoshopped old Britney and new Britney together for a comparison.
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Post by dzjx on Oct 17, 2014 5:30:36 GMT -5
They need to release another single. I love Charli but this is more of an album cut. why would they do that when this is climbing nicely on radio?
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