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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 25, 2012 16:02:02 GMT -5
Ouch Tim McGraw. Could his wifey do worse? ADELE CHALLENGES BODYGUARD Her 18th Week at #1 Gives Her Longest Run Since Whitney Houston Soundtrack January 25, 2012 So what else is new? For the 18th non-consecutive week, XL/Columbia Grammy darling Adele’s 21 will be the #1 album. That’s based on one-day sales reports from those on and offline retailers who haven’t closed shop to set up Newt Gingrich campaign headquarters. Adele’s chart-topping performance will send her past Billy Ray Cyrus’ Some Gave All, with 17, and turn her sights to the Bodyguard soundtrack, which logged a total of 20 weeks at #1, ending on May 29, 1993, the longest previous run. Adele beat out this week's new releases, including Curb’s new Tim McGraw album, Emotional Traffic, his first studio effort since 2009’s Southern Voice, which is now targeted for between 65-75k, quite a bit fewer than the 137k that album racked up. Epic heavy metal gods Lamb of God’s seventh album, Resolution, is looking at estimates in the 50-55k range after scoring 68k for their previous release, 2009’s Wrath. Universal Republic has the new 2012 Grammy Nominees album, with first-week prognostications of 50-55k, which would top last year’s 38k opening tally. Cabin 24/Mom + Pop’s Ingrid Michaelson, going through RED, will see her new album, Human Again, her fifth, launch with 35-40k in sales. BNA’s Idol alum Kellie Pickler’s 100 Proof, her third, should do between 23-27k, while Amnesty International’s four-CD Bob Dylan tribute, Chimes of Freedom, is looking at 15-20k. Album sales were down 1% vs. last week, down 4% vs. same week last year and up 3% year to date. Track sales were down 2% vs. last week, up 6% vs. same week last year and up 7% year to date. TEA sales were down 1% vs. last week, down 1% vs. same week last year and up 4% year to date.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 16:18:32 GMT -5
At least #2-4 isn't looking as bad as the last 2 weeks..
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Post by Wave. on Jan 25, 2012 16:19:33 GMT -5
ADELE setting fire. Ouch at TimMc. Does he have a single out?
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Post by thehellion on Jan 25, 2012 16:24:57 GMT -5
It's quite possible that LOG's actual numbers won't be far off Tim McGraw's. Hits often underestimate metal albums. 50-55k was what they predicted for their last album and, as it says in the article, that actually sold 68k in its opening week. I would not be surprised if LOG take the no.2 slot.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 25, 2012 16:25:56 GMT -5
^Of course he has a single out.
Country buyers might not exactly run out and buy the album the first day. His sales will grow throughout the weekend.
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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 25, 2012 16:37:12 GMT -5
Kellie might her her highest charting album. Her last two both peaked at 9. The highest she could hit is 6, though depending how Drake, the Black Keys, and Kidzpop hold up, she could end up at 9 just like her other two sets -_-. Unlike her other two though she wont be number one on the country charts.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 25, 2012 16:51:42 GMT -5
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 25, 2012 16:51:48 GMT -5
Ouch at TimMc. Does he have a single out? Tim McGraw has a single out -- "Better Than I Used to Be" is currently at #25 on the country chart. But that's not the whole story, and the fact that the industry trades aren't covering this story in greater detail is a huge shame because it should be a much bigger deal. Emotional Traffic is an album McGraw submitted in 2010 to Curb Records, which has notoriously released a third greatest hits collection without his consent to prolong his contract with them. Curb has been stalling and stalling in an effort to keep hold of McGraw (by far their most successful artist), and those efforts culminated in Curb filiing a lawsuit against McGraw for breach of contract. The lawsuit claimed, amazingly, that McGraw had breached his contract by submitting material that he had recorded too soon after the release of his prior album, and claimed the material was not up to snuff. Tim McGraw's counterclaim asserts, among other things, that he only handed rough versions of a couple of songs (including the #1 hit "Felt Good on My Lips," which Curb used for another compilation package released without McGraw's consent) to a Curb rep who asked him for them just to see where he was. It's really amazing to see how brazen Curb was in filing the suit in the first place. Of course, Curb wanted an extra contract period tacked on to McGraw's contract as part of damages. Tim McGraw's lawyers asked for a separate judge's ruling on whether his contract with Curb was fulfilled and whether he could record freely. On 30 November 2011, the judge ruled McGraw's contract with Curb fulfilled, making him a free agent. The damages portion of this whole business remains unresolved, with court proceedings scheduled to begin in July. Mike Curb, president of Curb Records, is on record saying that this isn't over. But Curb released a McGraw single to promote the Emotional Traffic album right after the 30 November ruling. This seems like capitulation to me considering that this is the same material Curb had been claiming was not timely and up to snuff. But I'm wondering if Curb is crazy enough to argue that the relative underperformance of this album supports its case about the material. I put nothing past them. But the bottom line is, McGraw isn't promoting this album at all and I don't think it can be considered a surprise that it isn't opening with larger numbers. I'll come back and post some links later, after some time to search and compile. Sorry not to have them at the ready right now.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 25, 2012 17:17:56 GMT -5
Wow, this totally makes sense. This reminds me of when a Christina Aguilera album full of demos called "Just Be Free" charted in the top 100 about a decade ago (released without her consent).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 17:18:26 GMT -5
Excellent post, Dudley.
McGraw is NOT promoting this album (and neither is Curb, really). Like Dudley said, as of November 30, Tim was free from Curb Records. Curb immediately released the new single "Better Than I Used To Be" to radio after they lost the court ruling, and while it has done fairly well (top 30), Curb hasn't been promoting it at all. They really only put it out there so Tim would be on the airwaves when the album would drop. The song is climbing on Tim's name alone, and it's no secret that his situation with Curb was very ugly.
I wouldn't put anything past Curb, either. They've got a handful of other country stars who are either has-beens (Clay Walker, Steve Holy, Jo Dee Messina) or can get the occasional hit (Rodney Atkins, Lee Brice) but they've never had anyone like Tim, and they have 6-8 new artists on their roster that are just sitting there and couldn't get a top 60 hit on the country chart to save their life. So I could really see them still "hurting" Tim's career, even though he's free. Curb owns the rights to "Emotional Traffic", while Tim is looking to sign with another label--he's had talks with Sony (Carrie Underwood, Brad Paisley, Kenny Chesney, Miranda Lambert), Universal (Sugarland, Scotty McCreery, George Strait), Capitol (Keith Urban, Lady Antebellum, Luke Bryan, Alan Jackson, Eric Church), Warner Bros. (Faith Hill, Blake Shelton), and also Big Machine (Taylor Swift, Rascal Flatts, The Band Perry, Martina McBride). He'll likely sign with one of the big labels through his own label, StyleSonic Records, and I think he has the chance to really rejuvenate and reinvigorate his career in 2012.
Tim announced in December that he would release his own single in January, the first from a new project...the first new music for him free from Curb. But I worry that Curb will continue to try milking him for all he's worth, either by putting out more singles from "Emotional Traffic" or by releasing "Greatest Hits Volume 17".
It's a shame that Tim has been treated this way. He was the most played country artist of the last decade, and several of his hits have been among the all-time biggest at the format. But ever since 2004's smash hit "Live Like You Were Dying", Curb has consistently tried to take control of Tim's career, often putting out songs that Tim didn't want as singles. His dissatisfaction with them wasn't a secret, and it continued to grow. I really think that, if "Emotional Traffic" had been released a year ago (when "Felt Good On My Lips" was a big #1 hit), that the album would've opened with 100-150k quite easily.
I am glad that the fans can at least get the album, but I'm not surprised at all that the numbers aren't terribly high. I'm just saying that I don't think they're bad at all, considering the situation surrounding this album. I really do hope Tim has a good 2012, and I'm so glad he's no longer bound to Curb Records.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 17:24:09 GMT -5
Ouch at TimMc. Does he have a single out? Tim McGraw has a single out -- "Better Than I Used to Be" is currently at #25 on the country chart. But that's not the whole story, and the fact that the industry trades aren't covering this story in greater detail is a huge shame because it should be a much bigger deal. Emotional Traffic is an album McGraw submitted in 2010 to Curb Records, which has notoriously released a third greatest hits collection without his consent to prolong his contract with them. Curb has been stalling and stalling in an effort to keep hold of McGraw (by far their most successful artist), and those efforts culminated in Curb filiing a lawsuit against McGraw for breach of contract. The lawsuit claimed, amazingly, that McGraw had breached his contract by submitting material that he had recorded too soon after the release of his prior album, and claimed the material was not up to snuff. Tim McGraw's counterclaim asserts, among other things, that he only handed rough versions of a couple of songs (including the #1 hit "Felt Good on My Lips," which Curb used for another compilation package released without McGraw's consent) to a Curb rep who asked him for them just to see where he was. It's really amazing to see how brazen Curb was in filing the suit in the first place. Of course, Curb wanted an extra contract period tacked on to McGraw's contract as part of damages. Tim McGraw's lawyers asked for a separate judge's ruling on whether his contract with Curb was fulfilled and whether he could record freely. On 30 November 2011, the judge ruled McGraw's contract with Curb fulfilled, making him a free agent. The damages portion of this whole business remains unresolved, with court proceedings scheduled to begin in July. Mike Curb, president of Curb Records, is on record saying that this isn't over. But Curb released a McGraw single to promote the Emotional Traffic album right after the 30 November ruling. This seems like capitulation to me considering that this is the same material Curb had been claiming was not timely and up to snuff. But, I'm wondering if Curb is crazy enough to argue that the relative underperformance of this album supports its case about the material. I put nothing past them. But the bottom line is, McGraw isn't promoting this album at all and I don't think it can be considered a surprise that it isn't opening with larger numbers. I'll come back and post some links later, after some time to search and compile. Sorry not to have them at the ready right now. Thanks for this (and also TIA for any links you find later - and also thanks to jhomes for your post on it as well!). I knew not to expect "normal" opening numbers from this album b/c of label drama but did not know most of the details aside from Tim trying to part ways with them. Does anyone know the opening numbers (sales, not peaks) for Kellie's previous albums? She may debut higher on the chart than she has in the past, but for some reason I thought she would pull in more than that (like 40-50k).
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 25, 2012 18:00:28 GMT -5
I recall hearing something about McGraw's issues with Curb- thanks for the explanation, 43dudley. The less-than-stellar opening does make sense now.
This definitely leaves Ms. Adkins' album to hang on for a 19th week in the week after- but, I'd think that Van Halen should come out on top the following week. I see Nicki Minaj's album has been pushed back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 18:35:25 GMT -5
This whole Tim situation is so typical of Curb. They won't let him release his album and accuse him of violating his contract, and now they release it as soon as Tim was free to get out of his contract. Worst label ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 18:51:20 GMT -5
Tim McGraw has a single out -- "Better Than I Used to Be" is currently at #25 on the country chart. But that's not the whole story, and the fact that the industry trades aren't covering this story in greater detail is a huge shame because it should be a much bigger deal. Emotional Traffic is an album McGraw submitted in 2010 to Curb Records, which has notoriously released a third greatest hits collection without his consent to prolong his contract with them. Curb has been stalling and stalling in an effort to keep hold of McGraw (by far their most successful artist), and those efforts culminated in Curb filiing a lawsuit against McGraw for breach of contract. The lawsuit claimed, amazingly, that McGraw had breached his contract by submitting material that he had recorded too soon after the release of his prior album, and claimed the material was not up to snuff. Tim McGraw's counterclaim asserts, among other things, that he only handed rough versions of a couple of songs (including the #1 hit "Felt Good on My Lips," which Curb used for another compilation package released without McGraw's consent) to a Curb rep who asked him for them just to see where he was. It's really amazing to see how brazen Curb was in filing the suit in the first place. Of course, Curb wanted an extra contract period tacked on to McGraw's contract as part of damages. Tim McGraw's lawyers asked for a separate judge's ruling on whether his contract with Curb was fulfilled and whether he could record freely. On 30 November 2011, the judge ruled McGraw's contract with Curb fulfilled, making him a free agent. The damages portion of this whole business remains unresolved, with court proceedings scheduled to begin in July. Mike Curb, president of Curb Records, is on record saying that this isn't over. But Curb released a McGraw single to promote the Emotional Traffic album right after the 30 November ruling. This seems like capitulation to me considering that this is the same material Curb had been claiming was not timely and up to snuff. But, I'm wondering if Curb is crazy enough to argue that the relative underperformance of this album supports its case about the material. I put nothing past them. But the bottom line is, McGraw isn't promoting this album at all and I don't think it can be considered a surprise that it isn't opening with larger numbers. I'll come back and post some links later, after some time to search and compile. Sorry not to have them at the ready right now. Thanks for this (and also TIA for any links you find later - and also thanks to jhomes for your post on it as well!). I knew not to expect "normal" opening numbers from this album b/c of label drama but did not know most of the details aside from Tim trying to part ways with them. Does anyone know the opening numbers (sales, not peaks) for Kellie's previous albums? She may debut higher on the chart than she has in the past, but for some reason I thought she would pull in more than that (like 40-50k). 09 79133 SMALL TOWN GIRL Kellie Pickler 09 43165 KELLIE PICKLER Kellie Pickler
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 25, 2012 21:30:23 GMT -5
Tim McGraw, Lamb of God and 'Grammy' Albums Aiming High On Next Week's Billboard 200
January 25, 2012 By Keith Caulfield, Los Angeles
After weeks of relatively few new major album releases, Tuesday (Jan. 24) brought a bevy of titles to market that are aiming for the top of next week's Billboard 200 chart.
While Adele's "21" seems set to spend an 18th nonconsecutive week at No. 1, according to industry sources, Tim McGraw's "Emotional Traffic" could drive in at No. 2 on the list. Those in the know suggest the album may sell between 60,000 and 65,000 copies by week's end on Jan. 29.
The new effort is McGraw's last for Curb Records, following a court ruling in November that the singer was free to record for another label (or his own) without Curb's involvement. Curb had been his home for his entire two-decades-plus career.
Elsewhere on next week's chart, look for rock band Lamb of God to debut in either the Nos. 3 or 4 slots, as its "Resolution" is aiming to sell around 50,000 copies. After that, the next-biggest new entry may be the "Grammy Nominees 2012" compilation. The latest installment in the long-running series is on course to sell around 50,000 as well.
Other albums looking to make high debuts next week include Ingrid Michaelson's "Human Again," Kellie Pickler's "100 Proof," Kari Jobe's "Where I Find You" and Seal's "Soul 2."
The new Billboard 200 chart's top 10 will be revealed on the morning of Feb. 1.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 25, 2012 22:27:17 GMT -5
OK, on the Tim McGraw situation. Here's a partial timeline starting in July 2008. Probably not for the TL;DR set, but on the other hand, this is an eye-opener when it comes what a mid-sized label can try to pull on its flagship artist. After a couple of weeks worth of ads teasing new Tim McGraw music set to hit country radio on 15 July 2008, Curb registered a song called "You Had to Be There" at Mediabase. There was no studio recording of the song released yet, but McGraw had been performing the song live along with a few other new cuts on his Live Your Voice tour. The logical conclusion was that "You Had to Be There" was set to be the lead single off a new McGraw album. This is all documented in this Pulse thread.On 15 July 2008, Curb instead serviced a Tim McGraw song called "Let It Go" to country radio. That was the title track of an album he had released on 27 March 2007, and it would have been the sixth single off Let It Go (counting "If You're Reading This," which McGraw debuted after the release of Let It Go but which was added to later pressings of the album). But Curb instead turned "Let It Go" into the lead single to support Greatest Hits 3 (released 7 October 2008) -- his second greatest hits album since 2006. Tim would release the following statement about Greatest Hits 3:CMT's Edward Morris did a follow-up interview with McGraw's publicist Jessie Schmidt and received a statement Curb EVP and General Manager Dennis Hannon (his comments would be hilarious if they weren't so disingenuous and brazen). Schmidt said that McGraw had been preparing to release a new studio album in the October/November timeframe in which Curb instead released the greatest hits set:The article also noted that this isn't the first time Curb and McGraw disagreed over the release of a greatest hits album instead of a new studio set:The album whose songs McGraw had been working on for release in October 2008 ( Southern Voice) was instead released on 20 October 2009, led by the single "It's a Business Doing Pleasure With You." Two more singles would be released from that album (including the title track, which went to #1), extending its life through summer 2010. In mid-September 2010, Curb released a new McGraw song called "Felt Good on My Lips" to country radio (documented in this Pulse thread). Naturally, Curb subsequently announced that it would be the lead single to support yet another greatest hits album called #1 Hits to be released on 30 November 2010. "Felt Good on My Lips" went to #1 in early January 2011. On 13 May 2011, Curb Records filed a breach of contract suit against Tim McGraw. Here's a summary of their claims via Billboard.biz, and here's the full text of their complaint. The meat of their complaint (via Ray Waddell of Billboard):If you read the complaint, you will find very liberal interpretations of the meaning of "delivery" and what constitutes the beginning and end of a contract period. On 23 May 2011, Tim McGraw and his lawyers filed a response and countersuit. Billboard/Reuters summarizes their claims, and you can read McGraw's full response (with numerous specific depictions of Curb acting in bad faith) here. Here's the meat of McGraw's response:Additionally,In October of last year, McGraw was granted a hearing to "make a final determination on whether or not Curb is entitled to prevent Mr. McGraw, by injunction or otherwise, from recording for other entities other than Curb" (from The Tennessean via MSN's One Country blog). In other words, this hearing would determine whether McGraw was still beholden by his recording contract to Curb. The hearing took place on 29-30 November, and on 30 November, a judge ruled in favor of McGraw, leaving him "free to record for another label-or on his own-without Curb, which has been his only label home throughout his career" (according to billboard.biz). Curb immediately announced the release of a new single "Better Than I Used to Be," the lead single for the album Emotional Traffic, the same album whose timeliness and quality were in dispute in Curb's suit against McGraw. As a follow-up, you may be wondering what could possess an artist to ever work with Curb Records again. Indeed, it came as quite a surprise when a press release confirmed on 9 December 2011 that Rodney Atkins had renewed his contract with Curb, replete with gushing praise for Mike Curb. But news broke a week later via TMZ and The Boot that Atkins had been arrested on 21 November 2011 for domestic assault against his wife (allegations that he disputes) and had filed for divorce. Coincidence?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 23:40:43 GMT -5
Poor Kellie :( Was hoping she'd open with more, but with Tough failing to make a dent and 100 Proof having a slow start I should have expected it...she might now even sell 100k with this album...
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Post by imbondz on Jan 26, 2012 2:24:36 GMT -5
that mcgraw stuff is crazy. how could a label treat him that way after 20 years of hit records. makes no sense. I remember when his GH3 came out, and thought it was odd he was already releasing another GH. now it makes sense.
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Post by d.t.m on Jan 26, 2012 6:30:24 GMT -5
I'm sorry and I love Kanye, but there's no way he would have beaten this girl for AOTY had he been nominated. This is a special moment in music and one the Grammys won't resist recognizing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 7:42:02 GMT -5
I don't think anyone had illusions that he would and to many that wasn't really the point of their uproar over his snub. He still deserved an AOTY nomination. I say that as one who believes that just being nominated in one of the "big four" categories is supposed to be A Big Deal, but the way the Grammys goes about it in a sense cheapens the meaning in being nominated, so only the winner gets any real sense of validation out of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 21:22:05 GMT -5
As expected, Adele will land another week at #1, her 18th. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend:
Adele 21 (XL/Columbia) 95-105k *Tim McGraw (Curb) 65-70k *Lamb of God (Epic) 55-60k *2012 Grammy Nominees (Universal Republic) 50-55k *Ingrid Michaelson (Cabin 24/Mom & Pop) 35-40k Kidz Bop Kids (Razor & Tie) 30-35k Drake (YM/CM/Universal Republic) 25-28k *Kellie Pickler (BNA) 25-28k Black Keys (Nonesuch) 21-24k *Chimes of Freedom (Amnesty International) 18-21k *Kari Jobe (Sparrow) 18-21k Rihanna (Def Jam/IDJ) 17-20k *Celtic Woman (Manhattan/EMI) 17-20k Young Jeezy (Def Jam/IDJ) 15-18k Adele 19 (XL/Columbia) 15-18k LMFAO (Interscope) 15-18k Mary J. Blige (Geffen) 15-18k Coldplay (Capitol/EMI) 15-18k Luke Bryan (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 15-18k
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 26, 2012 21:42:20 GMT -5
Beautiful sales for Adele.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 26, 2012 23:04:58 GMT -5
Will No. 10 get back top 20K? That is the tidbit to watch.
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Post by Kurt on Jan 26, 2012 23:09:22 GMT -5
Graffiti6 isn't in that list at all? :( Guess I shouldn't be terribly surprised since they're new and they're only getting AAA airplay, but still a little bummed, lol.
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Post by d.t.m on Jan 26, 2012 23:19:56 GMT -5
I don't think anyone had illusions that he would and to many that wasn't really the point of their uproar over his snub. Actually a lot of people thought he would be the only one to unseat Adele after having the best reviewed album of the year.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 26, 2012 23:24:48 GMT -5
Unseat? Wouldn't "beat" be a better term? ;)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 0:11:17 GMT -5
Top 5 album for Ingrid! Hopefully.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 0:13:56 GMT -5
Yeah the more interesting week will be next week with this overly hyped Lana girl..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 0:30:15 GMT -5
Van Halen could be a likely #1
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Post by Minor Scratch on Jan 27, 2012 12:25:14 GMT -5
Adele is having like a Titanic sized run. This is pretty cool, but it still boggles my mind that people are still buying 100K a week of her record in 2012. I just don't get who is still purchasing it.
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