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Post by jgizzle89 on Mar 7, 2012 19:35:01 GMT -5
All I can say is that I am SHOCKED that 21 may actually be able to hold above 200k 2 weeks after the Grammy's bump. This is just unreal.
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Post by renfield75 on Mar 7, 2012 19:57:29 GMT -5
No one's disputing his status as a legend. It's just fun to look at chart similarities from the past. Not really sure what your point is with this. If his last #1 album ended the reign of Prince, that would be stand out for me a little more. if he always followed Prince or other long-running #1 albums then that would too. One of his many #1 albums ended the reign of Prince. The #1 that was several albums ago. Since then, he has ended the reign of many others as well. So this "coincidence" isn't as bizaare to me as it is to you Regarding the "legend" comment. Not going there. "legend" is a subjective term and open to interpretaion. One person's definition may classify him as a legend, someone elses might not. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. The last time an album logged a 24th week at number one Bruce Springsteen was in the runner-up slot. I found it interesting that, 27 years later, he would again be at number two when an album garnered a 24th week at number one. I thought that observation was slightly more interesting and worth mentioning than "OMG SLAY-DELE iz killing it!!!!" but to each their own.
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Post by Rodze on Mar 7, 2012 20:39:50 GMT -5
All I can say is that I am SHOCKED that 21 may actually be able to hold above 200k 2 weeks after the Grammy's bump. This is just unreal. It's funny how we were discussing when 21 would sell under 100k and now we're waiting for it go under 200k first.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 7, 2012 21:36:43 GMT -5
It stabilizing around 100K seemed insane to me, but now it really looks likely it may stay above 100K for quite some time and stabilize even higher. I know it gets repetitive to continue talking about it, but I just cannot believe the continued crazy success. I thought it would go diamond in a few years and thought that was insane success. She will really be diamond (like SOLD diamond) by the end of the year and maybe even before the holiday season. Almost unfathomable if I wasn't seeing it happen.
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Post by Ferrero on Mar 8, 2012 3:25:49 GMT -5
imagine in a few time it will be POP QUEEN MADGE vs I-HAVE-BEEN-HEARTBROKEN-FOR-A-YEAR ADELE
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 8, 2012 3:41:09 GMT -5
She always come out of the blue uninvited.
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Post by gracelessheart on Mar 8, 2012 9:46:50 GMT -5
I respect Springsteen's career and status, but I'm definitely pulling for Adele to stay where she is. I don't think a legendary act DESERVES a number one just because of past success. This goes for you too, Madge. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 9:59:36 GMT -5
The act that "deserves a number one"s the act whose album sells the most in a given week, regardless of who it is
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Post by jgizzle89 on Mar 8, 2012 10:10:20 GMT -5
The act that "deserves a number one"s the act whose album sells the most in a given week, regardless of who it is Actually, you are just defining what it means to have achieved the number 1 spot. "Deserved" is a value-laden word and is thus debatable. The rules determining who gets #1 are not, which is what you are pointing out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 10:15:33 GMT -5
Then you are saying there is such a thing as landing at #1 and not deserving to be there?
How so?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 8, 2012 10:30:29 GMT -5
I think this person is separating the actual Billboard 200 chart from its value. Since the Billboard charts tend to be the most referenced chart, getting to #1 on the Top 200 or the Hot 100, for example, is what people read about more than any other chart. So hearing an act we tend to think as being "undeserved" leaves a sour taste for people that don't like that act, such as if Justin Bieber hits #1. I'm guessing what these people really mean is that their success isn't deserved (which is what's up for debate) rather than them hitting #1. If they sell the most copies of their album in the measured time period, they deserve #1 and there's really no way to question or argue that barring some sort of record label interference (buying their own albums on release week, etc).
If Bruce sells the most copies this week, he deserve #1 regardless of how his albums in the past has done. The past has no bearing on the charts - only on the people that buy the music that choose to let the past influence their decision.
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Post by Francesa On The FAN on Mar 8, 2012 10:34:34 GMT -5
Uhhhh, I uhhh actually met da Boss, ok. Me and doggy were-uhh backstage at one of his shows and, uhhh, he told me he liked ouah radio show. He, uhhh joked with me, saying uhh, I have almost as many #1 shows as he has #1 records, uhhhh ok.
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Post by jgizzle89 on Mar 8, 2012 10:54:39 GMT -5
Then you are saying there is such a thing as landing at #1 and not deserving to be there? How so? Nope, not at all. I was just pointing out the semantics behind this board's use of the word "deserved." I think they usually mean something like "I really hope he/she get's number 1 because I think they 'deserve' it." As opposed to "You know, technically, according to the rules, anyone who gets to number 1 deserves it because they sold the most albums." :)
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 8, 2012 16:52:36 GMT -5
Changes to the New Release Schedule:
Norah Jones added to May 1 Chris Brown added to May 8 Sade Live added to May 8 John Mayer added to May 22 Kenny Chesney added to June 19
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 19:37:46 GMT -5
ruce Springsteen's new studio album "Wrecking Ball" is on course to sell over 200,000 copies by week's end on Sunday, March 11 -- so say industry prognosticators. However, that may not be enough to bump the reigning Adele from the top slot on the Billboard 200 chart.
Review: Bruce Springsteen's 'Wrecking Ball'
Her "21" album will also sell more than 200,000 this week, and it thus may hold for a 24th week atop the tally. So far, only seven albums have spent 24 weeks or more at No. 1. The last to do so was Prince & the Revolution's "Purple Rain" soundtrack in 1984 and 1985.
As for Springsteen, "Wrecking Ball" follows his last studio effort, 2009's "Working on a Dream." It started at No. 1 with 224,000 sold in its first week, according to Nielsen SoundScan. If "Wrecking Ball" reaches No. 1, it will mark the Boss' 10th No. 1 album.
The new Billboard 200 chart's top 10 will be revealed on the morning of Wednesday, March 14.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 19:55:26 GMT -5
In one of the closest races we've seen for #1, Bruce Springsteen gets a slight edge over Adele in the battle for the top of next week's chart. Complicating the projections this week are the 25-cent albums being featured this week at Google Play, which are being price-matched at Amazon MP3. While we know about Now 41, Lil Wayne's Tha Carter IV and Lady Antebellum's Own the Night being offered at such a ridiculously low price, there are still several days left in the week to see what other titles get discounted. Because of this, please expect a greater than usual margin of error and expect to see at least a few more titles come in with much larger sales. Here's how things look at midweek:
*Bruce Springsteen (Columbia) 210-220k Adele 21 (XL/Columbia) 210-220k Now 41 (Capitol/EMI) 90-100k Whitney Houston Greatest Hits (RCA) 80-85k Lady Antebellum (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 65-70k Lil Wayne (YM/Cash Money/Universal Republic) 60-65k Adele 19 (XL/Columbia) 25-28k *Luke Bryan EP (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 24-27k Tyga (YM/Cash Money/Universal Republic) 21-24k The Bodyguard soundtrack (RCA) 21-24k Drake (YM/Cash Money/Universal Republic) 21-24k Rihanna (Def Jam/IDJ) 18-21k fun. (Fueled By Ramen) 17-20k Gotye (Fairfax/Universal Republic) 17-20k Kelly Clarkson (19/RCA) 15-18k Luke Bryan (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 15-18k LMFAO (Interscope) 15-18k *Andrew Bird (Mom + Pop) 15-18k
*Debuts (3/8p)
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Mar 8, 2012 19:58:17 GMT -5
^ Those 25 cent albums apparently count for Hits, but they will NOT be eligible for the Billboard 200, not will any album sold for under $3.99.
Excellent third-week hold for fun., and even better 56th/who's-even-counting week holds for Adele's two albums.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 20:00:23 GMT -5
I think the $3.49 cut off only applies to the first 4 weeks of release, which wouldn't apply to any of those albums listed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 20:01:33 GMT -5
#1 albums 24 weeks or more
54 WEST SIDE STORY SOUNDTRACK 37 THRILLER MICHAEL JACKSON 31 CALYPSO HARRY BELAFONTE 31 SOUTH PACIFIC SOUNDTRACK 31 RUMORS FLEETWOOD MAC 24 SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER BEE GEES/SOUNDTRACK 24 PURPLE RAIN PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION/SOUNDTRACK
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Mar 8, 2012 20:09:05 GMT -5
I think the $3.49 cut off only applies to the first 4 weeks of release, which wouldn't apply to any of those albums listed. Interesting- that's something I missed, and you're absolutely right.
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Post by brucelover on Mar 8, 2012 20:23:39 GMT -5
I respect Springsteen's career and status, but I'm definitely pulling for Adele to stay where she is. I don't think a legendary act DESERVES a number one just because of past success. This goes for you too, Madge. Lol. He deserves #1 because Wrecking Ball shits on 21 from a great height.
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Post by Honeymoon on Mar 8, 2012 21:36:25 GMT -5
Yeah under the current rules these severely discounted albums will still count under Billboard as the albums are more than a month old. However, I wouldn't be shocked if Billboard changes the rules again after this week to apply to ALL albums (or at least all non-catalog albums)
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Post by midnightprism on Mar 8, 2012 22:01:02 GMT -5
Heads would explode if Adele is tomorrow's 25cent album.
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Post by Honeymoon on Mar 8, 2012 22:19:01 GMT -5
I kind of want that to happen just to see the ZOO that Pulse would turn into over the next few days (months).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 22:53:11 GMT -5
Madonna charting with MDNA will bring that anyway
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Mar 8, 2012 22:54:10 GMT -5
I kind of want that to happen just to see the ZOO that Pulse would turn into over the next few days (months). GaGa's fans wouldn't stop laughing for weeks.
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Post by Francesa On The FAN on Mar 8, 2012 22:59:33 GMT -5
I respect Springsteen's career and status, but I'm definitely pulling for Adele to stay where she is. I don't think a legendary act DESERVES a number one just because of past success. This goes for you too, Madge. Lol. He deserves #1 because Wrecking Ball shits on 21 from a great height. Would you call this height exceedingly enawmus?
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Post by kml567 on Mar 8, 2012 23:29:22 GMT -5
Lady Antebellum (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 65-70k *Luke Bryan EP (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 24-27k Luke Bryan (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 15-18k *Debuts (3/8p) WTF?! Lady A's 25 cents album is gonna block Luke Bryan's new EP from debuting at #1 on the Country album chart. Absolutely livid!! Wow imagine if Adele goes 25 cents on 3/27 and blocks Madonna from a #1 debut!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2012 23:31:01 GMT -5
Billboard will make it's 48th rule change for the year to stop that from happening.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 8, 2012 23:37:28 GMT -5
They like Adele though so they may not. Billboard only changes rules when someone they dislike will get screwed or raked over the coals for it. So, they wouldn't change it again for Adele, but if Katy or Gaga tried it it would be changed in like, a split second.
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