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Post by Au$tin on Oct 20, 2012 9:48:49 GMT -5
Although, OMN and Payphone may not have existed without MLJ. MLJ gave them (by them, I mean Adam) the idea to go more poppy/70s/funky/whatever the heck he calls it. Psy's airplay has really stopped growing all of a sudden. Looks like #2 will be his peak. Ke$ha, on the other hand, continues to close the gap between herself and Maroon 5!  |
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 20, 2012 10:56:42 GMT -5
I'm currently guessing around 250k for Taylor; maybe a bit higher.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 11:59:23 GMT -5
Although, OMN and Payphone may not have existed without MLJ. MLJ gave them (by them, I mean Adam) the idea to go more poppy/70s/funky/whatever the heck he calls it. Yes! I was thinking of mentioning this when I read the conversation this morning. If it weren't for Moves Like Jagger, they'd still be releasing Makes Me Wonder babies. |
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Oct 20, 2012 13:16:51 GMT -5
Other airplay updates (10/20/2012)
Ed Sheeran - The A Team: 36.717 (+ 0.006)
Flo Rida - I Cry: 36.629 (+ 1.518)
Brandy - Put It Down f/ Chris Brown: 34.670 (- 0.218)
Lumineers - Ho Hey: 25.323 (+ 0.527)
Pitbull ft. TJR - Don't Stop The Party: 13.058 (+ 0.540)
Swedish House Mafia - Don't You Worry Child: 7.508 (+ 0.512)
Little Big Town - Tornado: 6.607 (+ 0.523)
Kelly Clarkson - Catch My Breath: 3.386 (+ 0.160)
Nicki Minaj - Va Va Voom: 3.335 (+ 0.458)
Jason Mraz - 93 Million Miles: 1.114 (+ 0.145)
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Post by BlueSwan on Oct 20, 2012 13:35:03 GMT -5
Oh dear. "Gangnam Style" is never gonna go #1 is it? I'm not even sure I have heard that Maroon 5 song, but I hated Payphone and have only really liked "This Love" of theirs (although Moves Like Jagger was OK, I suppose), so I guess I won't like it.
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Post by Get Your Life. on Oct 20, 2012 14:10:52 GMT -5
When will Christmas music start affecting airplay?
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Post by badrobot on Oct 20, 2012 14:33:24 GMT -5
When will Christmas music start affecting airplay? Usually the day after thanksgiving sees a sudden rush. |
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Oct 20, 2012 15:37:40 GMT -5
The men (M5, Ne-Yo, Chris, Alex, Miguel, Bruno) are doing c'est bonne |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 15:44:36 GMT -5
The men (M5, Ne-Yo, Chris, Alex, Miguel, Bruno) are doing c'est bonne *très bien ;) |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 20, 2012 17:57:34 GMT -5
Although, OMN and Payphone may not have existed without MLJ. MLJ gave them (by them, I mean Adam) the idea to go more poppy/70s/funky/whatever the heck he calls it. Psy's airplay has really stopped growing all of a sudden. Looks like #2 will be his peak. Ke$ha, on the other hand, continues to close the gap between herself and Maroon 5! Radio programmers are saying one thing and the general public is saying another. I think Billboard should move to get rid of the airplay component from the charts altogether or at least diminish its influence. The two sales components should have at least 3 times the influence on the charts as the airplay component. |
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Post by Juanca on Oct 20, 2012 19:25:08 GMT -5
Although, OMN and Payphone may not have existed without MLJ. MLJ gave them (by them, I mean Adam) the idea to go more poppy/70s/funky/whatever the heck he calls it. Yes! I was thinking of mentioning this when I read the conversation this morning. If it weren't for Moves Like Jagger, they'd still be releasing Makes Me Wonder babies. It took a real visionary and risk-taker, thinking of and creating music ahead of its time, to inspire M5 and push them beyond their comfort zone. Someone who could REALLY sing vocally and use her pipes and humbly contribute to the benefit of others. It's true that some people did not get it at the beginning, but then everyone really GOT the song and proved to be a classic hit. Thanks, savior CHRISTina!! :'(  |
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Oct 20, 2012 19:48:38 GMT -5
The men (M5, Ne-Yo, Chris, Alex, Miguel, Bruno) are doing c'est bonne *très bien ;) Merci beaucoup :) |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 20, 2012 21:00:20 GMT -5
Maroon 5 is currently 60% of PSY.
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Post by cesarams on Oct 21, 2012 6:25:36 GMT -5
SUNDAY'S UPDATE:
TOP 20:
1. MAROON 5 – One More Night: 165.728 (+ 0.683)
2. JUSTIN BIEBER – As Long As You Love Me: 137.876 (- 0.252)
3. FUN. – Some Nights: 132.995 (- 0.115) ▲
4. PINK – Blow Me (One Last Kiss): 132.922 (- 1.817) ▼
5. TAYLOR SWIFT – We Are Never Ever Getting…: 131.028 (+ 0.724)
6. ALEX CLARE – Too Close: 113.475 (+ 1.507)
7. CHRIS BROWN – Don’t Wake Me Up: 104.662 (+ 1.705) ▲
8. OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN – Good Time: 103.355 (- 0.841) ▼
9. NE-YO – Let Me Love You: 103.326 (+ 0.577)
10. ELLIE GOULDING – Lights: 86.792 (- 0.490) ▲
11. NEON TREES – Everybody Talks: 85.652 (- 2.543) ▼
12. KATY PERRY – Wide Awake: 79.470 (- 1.188)
13. RIHANNA – Diamonds: 76.065 (+ 1.328) ▲
14. MIGUEL – Adorn: 75.715 (+ 0.375) ▼
15. GOTYE – Somebody That I Used To Know: 74.425 (- 0.623) ▼
16. KE$HA – Die Young: 71.156 (+ 0.952)
17. PSY – Gangnam Style: 68.791 (- 0.195)
18. CARRIE UNDERWOOD – Blown Away: 64.291 (- 0.013)
19. FLO RIDA – Whistle: 59.056 (- 1.372)
20. TRAIN – 50 Ways To Say Goodbye: 58.074 (+ 0.421) ▲
OTHERS:
PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Home: 57.621 (+ 0.772)
LEE BRICE – Hard To Love: 57.566 (+ 0.068)
DEMI LOVATO – Give Your Heart A Break: 57.397 (- 0.914)
TREY SONGZ – 2 Reasons f/T.I.: 56.143 (- 0.277)
BRUNO MARS – Locked Out Of Heaven: 55.976 (+ 1.914)
FRENCH MONTANA – Pop That f/Rick Ross: 54.797 (+ 0.054)
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Finally Found You f/S. Adams: 50.983 (+ 0.222)
DAVID GUETTA - I Can Only Imagine f/C. Brown: 47.697 (- 0.224)
KANYE WEST – Clique f/Big Sean & JAY-Z: 46.093 (+ 0.763)
ONEREPUBLIC – Feel Again: 31.741 (+ 0.248)
ONE DIRECTION – Live While We’re Young: 31.512 (+ 0.027)
USHER – Numb: 30.835 (+ 0.112)
ALICIA KEYS – Girl On Fire: 29.017 (+ 0.523)
BEYONCE – Dance For You: 28.635 (+ 0.068)
CHRISTINA AGUILERA – Your Body: 28.166 (- 0.461)
ADELE – Skyfall: 22.691 (+ 0.577)
MUMFORD & SONS – I Will Wait: 20.351 (+ 0.086)
TAYLOR SWIFT – Begin Again: 17.947 (+ 0.951)
MUSE – Madness: 15.584 (- 0.083)
PINK – Try: 4.001
KELLY CLARKSON – Catch My Breath: 3.950
THE WANTED – I Found You: 2.888
KILLERS – Miss Atomic Bomb: 0.683
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Post by Rocky on Oct 21, 2012 6:48:40 GMT -5
17. PSY – Gangnam Style: 68.791 (- 0.195)
What The Heck? :OO Noooooooo.
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Post by jdanton2 on Oct 21, 2012 7:27:52 GMT -5
17. PSY – Gangnam Style: 68.791 (- 0.195) What The Heck? :OO Noooooooo. radio is playing it too safe these days Maroon 5 , Fun and Pink are examples of that.  |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Oct 21, 2012 7:56:49 GMT -5
17. PSY – Gangnam Style: 68.791 (- 0.195) What The Heck? :OO Noooooooo. radio is playing it too safe these days Maroon 5 , Fun and Pink are examples of that. Pop is really the only format for this novelty record and it has done very well there. HAC is making the HUGE difference for the other acts you mention. If the chart was the pre-1998 H100 (pop airplay only and sale) GS would've been #1 for several weeks, but it's not. |
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Post by Rodze on Oct 21, 2012 8:43:32 GMT -5
And you don't need to go back to 1998, a few months ago before Billboard gave more power to radio it would have been no. 1 already.
At least this time people are actually buying OMN, unlike the other recent examples of radio sticking to a song for ages.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Oct 21, 2012 9:24:11 GMT -5
17. PSY – Gangnam Style: 68.791 (- 0.195) What The Heck? :OO Noooooooo. radio is playing it too safe these days Maroon 5 , Fun and Pink are examples of that. It's so funny how just a few months ago fun. was a huge risk for radio to take, and suddenly it's an example of "playing it safe." |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 21, 2012 9:43:40 GMT -5
I think Maroon 5 would have had their hits with or without MLJ. Maybe not as big but for some reason, they've been able to stay relevant to pop audiences even despite some of their lighter pop releases from the last album. Misery was still a pretty big hit and Adam Levine has had a few collaborations of his own. I think MLJ gave them a slightly hipper edge as a band who can be sassy where other bands would look lame doing that type of song. It simply expanded their image so songs like Payphone and OMN can having plenty of breathing room. EDIT: I just noticed Au$tin said this earlier: Although, OMN and Payphone may not have existed without MLJ. MLJ gave them (by them, I mean Adam) the idea to go more poppy/70s/funky/whatever the heck he calls it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 9:45:04 GMT -5
Who's to say they would have even recorded "Payphone" or "One More Night" without having a hit with "Moves Like Jagger"? It's kind of pointless to argue where they would be if "Moves Like Jagger" was never a hit.
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Post by jdanton2 on Oct 21, 2012 9:54:58 GMT -5
radio is playing it too safe these days Maroon 5 , Fun and Pink are examples of that. Pop is really the only format for this novelty record and it has done very well there. HAC is making the HUGE difference for the other acts you mention. If the chart was the pre-1998 H100 (pop airplay only and sale) GS would've been #1 for several weeks, but it's not. based on it's sales numbers it should be doing better at Pop . another 10 Million or so in audience there it would be #1 on the Hot 100. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2012 10:02:47 GMT -5
Could you imagine the bitching and moaning if billboard got rid of AirPlay in their main chart? Wasn't it just like a week ago when billboard added digital(and other airplay) to the urban and country charts and half the board had a melt down? Would people be ok with Taylor having 4 #1 billboard hits already this era? :$ There's a digital chart there's a airplay chart and theirs a chart that combines both...win win for everyone, yes/no?
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Oct 21, 2012 10:27:28 GMT -5
Other airplay updates (10/21/2012)
Ed Sheeran - The A Team: 36.916 (+ 0.199)
Flo Rida - I Cry: 38.122 (+ 1.493)
Brandy - Put It Down f/ Chris Brown: 34.876 (+ 0.206)
Lumineers - Ho Hey: 26.333 (+ 1.010)
Pitbull ft. TJR - Don't Stop The Party: 13.719 (+ 0.661)
Swedish House Mafia - Don't You Worry Child: 9.336 (+ 1.828)
Little Big Town - Tornado: 7.202 (+ 0.595)
Cher Lloyd ft. Becky G - Oath: 5.095 (+ 0.486)
Nicki Minaj - Va Va Voom: 3.770 (+ 0.435)
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Oct 21, 2012 12:46:12 GMT -5
Airplay flashback (January, 24 1998)
The week when 'My Heart Will Go On' went like a rocket.
The song eventually peaked at 221 M and
became one of the biggest airplay songs ever.
1. CHUMBAWAMBA - Thumbtumping: 143.006 (- 0.517)
2. SMASH MOUTH - Walkin' On The Sun: 128.674 (+ 0.416)
3. SUGAR RAY - Fly: 127.126 (- 0.987)
4. CELINE DION - My Heart Will Go On: 113.324 (+ 7.129)
5. USHER - You Make Me Wanna....: 110.513 (- 1.614)
The calculations from this flashback are
how much airplay the song would have in 2012.
That means that having 100 M in 1998 would be
around 190 M in 2012
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 21, 2012 13:41:25 GMT -5
Could you imagine the bitching and moaning if billboard got rid of AirPlay in their main chart? Wasn't it just like a week ago when billboard added digital(and other airplay) to the urban and country charts and half the board had a melt down? Would people be ok with Taylor having 4 #1 billboard hits already this era? :$ There's a digital chart there's a airplay chart and theirs a chart that combines both...win win for everyone, yes/no? I think now that there are On Demand outlets that Billboard should decrease the relevance of airplay in its HOT 100 formula. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 21, 2012 20:15:48 GMT -5
Fascinating:
2. 137.876 (- 0.252)
3. 132.995 (- 0.115)
4. 132.922 (- 1.817)
5. TAYLOR SWIFT – We Are Never Ever Getting…: 131.028 (+ 0.724)
I'm surprised honestly. With country dropping Never as soon as they could, I didn't think the song would even re-match its radio peak (#3), let alone possibly beating it.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 21, 2012 21:26:49 GMT -5
Where are these "flashback" numbers coming from? "My Heart Will Go On" peaked at 116m weekly BDS audience- so how would it have peaked at 221m Mediabase? The differences were never that big. Or, is this some kind of retroactive/adjustment/estimates taking int account Mediabase's expanded panel?
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 21, 2012 21:56:58 GMT -5
Or, is this some kind of retroactive/adjustment/estimates taking int account Mediabase's expanded panel? I could've sworn we figured out it was that some time ago. Unless I'm just clairvoyant. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 21, 2012 22:10:27 GMT -5
Where are these "flashback" numbers coming from? "My Heart Will Go On" peaked at 116m weekly BDS audience- so how would it have peaked at 221m Mediabase? The differences were never that big. Or, is this some kind of retroactive/adjustment/estimates taking int account Mediabase's expanded panel? back in 98 getting over 100m listeners was like getting over 200million listeners today. |
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