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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 1, 2012 15:08:26 GMT -5
The fact is that Minaj and Ke$ha were credited for that one week, so why not count it. it doesn't help their all-time-acts standing, as they only get points for that single week (same with Spears and "S&M").
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 1, 2012 17:43:01 GMT -5
How many songs does Taylor have if you take away all the countdown singles, or anything not specifically promoted to radio?
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Post by kingofpain on Nov 1, 2012 18:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 1, 2012 19:30:57 GMT -5
49 44 43 Jason Mraz, I Won't Give Up
This is interesting. In wonder where it will chart on year-end?
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Post by Lozzy on Nov 2, 2012 8:57:54 GMT -5
How many songs does Taylor have if you take away all the countdown singles, or anything not specifically promoted to radio? The Billboard Hot 100 2006-09-23 Tim McGraw The Billboard Hot 100 2007-03-24 Teardrops On My Guitar The Billboard Hot 100 2007-10-13 Our Song The Billboard Hot 100 2008-03-01 Picture To Burn The Billboard Hot 100 2008-06-07 Should've Said No The Billboard Hot 100 2008-08-30 ChangeThe Billboard Hot 100 2008-09-27 Love Story The Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-01 Fearless The Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-15 You're Not SorryThe Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-22 You Belong With Me The Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-29 White Horse The Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-29 The Way I Loved YouThe Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-29 BreatheThe Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-29 Fifteen The Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-29 Hey StephenThe Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-29 Forever & AlwaysThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-04-11 CrazierThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-09-26 Two Is Better Than One The Billboard Hot 100 2009-11-14 The Other Side Of The DoorThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-11-14 SuperstarThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-11-14 Come In With The RainThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-11-14 UntouchableThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-11-14 Jump Then FallThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-12-05 Half Of My Heart The Billboard Hot 100 2010-02-06 Today Was A Fairytale The Billboard Hot 100 2010-02-13 BreathlessThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-08-21 Mine The Billboard Hot 100 2010-10-23 Speak NowThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-10-30 Back To December The Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-06 Mean The Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 Better Than RevengeThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 Long LiveThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 Sparks Fly The Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 InnocentThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 Dear JohnThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 Last KissThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 EnchantedThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 The Story Of Us The Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 HauntedThe Billboard Hot 100 2010-11-13 Never Grow UpThe Billboard Hot 100 2011-11-26 SupermanThe Billboard Hot 100 2011-11-26 If This Was A MovieThe Billboard Hot 100 2011-11-26 Ours The Billboard Hot 100 2012-01-07 Safe & SoundThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-04-07 Eyes Open The Billboard Hot 100 2012-05-19 Both Of Us The Billboard Hot 100 2012-08-25 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together The Billboard Hot 100 2012-09-22 RonanThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-10-13 Begin Again The Billboard Hot 100 2012-10-20 RedThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-10-27 I Knew You Were Trouble.The Billboard Hot 100 2012-11-03 State Of GraceThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-11-10 22The Billboard Hot 100 2012-11-10 I Almost DoThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-11-10 Everything Has ChangedThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-11-10 All Too WellThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-11-10 Stay Stay StayI think. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 18:33:10 GMT -5
Red, Trouble and 22 are sure to be future singles though, so I think those should count.
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Post by Lozzy on Nov 2, 2012 18:38:44 GMT -5
They shouldn't count until they are singles, though. If the Hot 100 was singles-only, which is what we're hypothesizing, they would never have charted.
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 2, 2012 18:53:55 GMT -5
How many songs does Taylor have if you take away all the countdown singles, or anything not specifically promoted to radio? The Billboard Hot 100 2008-08-30 ChangeThe Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-29 BreatheThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-04-11 CrazierThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-01-07 Safe & SoundThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-09-22 RonanI think. These are questionable. Three of them actually had music videos. I accidentally deleted "Breathless," but add that to the questionable list as well. It's really hard to tell what Billboard would classify as single or not. |
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Post by Lozzy on Nov 2, 2012 19:05:36 GMT -5
The Billboard Hot 100 2008-08-30 ChangeThe Billboard Hot 100 2008-11-29 BreatheThe Billboard Hot 100 2009-04-11 CrazierThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-01-07 Safe & SoundThe Billboard Hot 100 2012-09-22 RonanI think. These are questionable. Three of them actually had music videos. I accidentally deleted "Breathless," but add that to the questionable list as well. It's really hard to tell what Billboard would classify as single or not. I don't think any of them were promoted to radio, which is what Spree was asking for. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Nov 2, 2012 19:32:28 GMT -5
Even if it wasn't promoted to radio, YNS was heavily featured in TS CSI episode AND received a special remix that was put on iTunes. I always thought YNS got a raw deal. It's a great song.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 2, 2012 19:35:28 GMT -5
wow, that makes quite a difference in the numbers. I can imagine Billboard making note of something like that. I bet she holds the record for most crossed-out songs on their prospective Hot 100 Appearances list.
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Post by Lozzy on Nov 2, 2012 19:43:41 GMT -5
wow, that makes quite a difference in the numbers. I can imagine Billboard making note of something like that. I bet she holds the record for most crossed-out songs on their prospective Hot 100 Appearances list. How about the Glee Cast? I can't recall anything of theirs being promoted to radio. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 2, 2012 20:06:20 GMT -5
you're right. "Female" record then.
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Post by WotUNeed on Nov 2, 2012 20:33:05 GMT -5
How about the Glee Cast? I can't recall anything of theirs being promoted to radio. Pretty sure "Loser like Me" and "Light Up the World" both got adds dates, but, yes, the vast majority did not. Kind of interesting reading this discussion to see that now a radio release is being used as a way to distinguish "true singles" considering, not long ago, the exact opposite definition was used. Even before the trend of intentionally withholding mega-popular radio singles from release to promote album sales, it was not uncommon for a song to be released to radio for promotional purposes, but not actually released as a single, making it ineligible for Billboard charting purposes. Now radio is being used as a determining factor (at least in this thread). Just goes to show how murky the concept of "single" has become in the digital age. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2012 9:02:53 GMT -5
They shouldn't count until they are singles, though. If the Hot 100 was singles-only, which is what we're hypothesizing, they would never have charted. I know, I meant like with an asterisk.  No matter what gets released, it would probably chart at least in the bottom 50. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2012 11:24:00 GMT -5
Why stop at radio? Why not youtube? Online streaming? Some music listners rarely even turn on the radio (I am one of them)
Anyway, lots of different types of "singles" today. Countdown singles, digital singles, radio singles, album cut singles. But yet they are all 'singles'. If enough of them are purchased, it will chart.
I have never seen a chart that differentiates a single, from a non-single-single from a true single outside of threads such as this.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 3, 2012 22:01:03 GMT -5
With Taylor Swift seeing top 10 debuts drop big on the chart, I believe this is the list of biggest drops from the top 10 on the Hot 100 (30 or more spots; no distinctions made between radio-promoted singles and non-radio-promoted singles):
58 positions, "Auld Lang Syne," Kenny G (8-66)
49 positions, "Love Is in Control (Finger on the Trigger)," Donna Summer (10-59)
48 positions, "Red," Taylor Swift (6-54)
47 positions, "Loser Like Me," Glee Cast (6-53)
45 positions, "Begin Again," Taylor Swift (7-52)
43 positions, "If This Was a Movie," Taylor Swift (10-53)
41 positions, "Steppin' Out (Gonna Boogie Tonight)," Tony Orlando & Dawn (7-48, Nov. 9, 1974)
38 positions, "Abracadabra," Steve Miller Band (10-48)
37 positions, "Get Down on It," Kool & the Gang (10-47)
37 positions, "Speak Now," Taylor Swift (8-45)
36 positions, "Even the Nights Are Better," Air Supply (6-42)
36 positions, "Sweet Home Alabama," Lynyrd Skynyrd (8-44)
31 positions, "Jump Then Fall," Taylor Swift (10-41)
31 positions, "Home," Phillip Phillips (10-41)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2012 22:39:13 GMT -5
Listening to the 11/2/1974 AT40 show this weekend which features the Tony Orlando song in the above list (at #7) and also a record 1-15 drop from #1 by Dionne Warwick
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 4, 2012 0:56:09 GMT -5
36 positions, "Even the Nights Are Better," Air Supply (6-42)
i love this song.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 4, 2012 0:56:39 GMT -5
Listening to the 11/2/1974 AT40 show this weekend which features the Tony Orlando song in the above list (at #7) and also a record 1-15 drop from #1 by Dionne Warwick how and where do you listen to old AT40 shows? :o |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2012 1:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 4, 2012 8:56:52 GMT -5
SPRΞΞ, I agree- point me to an act who does those cheesy love songs better- I dare ya. :)
Some radio stations play old AT40 shows- i.e. WOGL (98.1) in Philadelphia airs the AT40 70s Rewind from 6 to 9 a.m. Saturday mornings.
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 4, 2012 22:36:21 GMT -5
There's a new record for fridayteenage: Taylor Swift has had more songs plummet out of the top 40 from the top 10 than any other artist in history!
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Nov 4, 2012 23:19:41 GMT -5
There's a new record for fridayteenage: Taylor Swift has had more songs plummet out of the top 40 from the top 10 than any other artist in history!  |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 5, 2012 2:49:04 GMT -5
Oh snap...
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Post by Push The Button on Nov 5, 2012 21:36:56 GMT -5
SPREE, The decade channels on Sirius play AT40 shows every weekend. 70's on 7, 80's on 8, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2012 21:58:24 GMT -5
Is that a subscription service?
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Post by Push The Button on Nov 5, 2012 23:50:05 GMT -5
It's satellite radio.
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