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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 10:41:30 GMT -5
Digital sales usually go down at the end of the year because everyone's waiting for their gift cards before they buy anything. But seems kinda early for that yet.
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Post by jasontoralba on Oct 31, 2012 10:44:27 GMT -5
I hope Psy will finally get the no. 1 slot. :)
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Post by p0isonparadise. on Oct 31, 2012 10:54:01 GMT -5
I take it that "WANEGBT" and "IKYWT" have barely any sales this week?
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 31, 2012 11:16:44 GMT -5
PSY may be able to take it if his on demand streams are way up.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 31, 2012 11:32:08 GMT -5
I take it that "WANEGBT" and "IKYWT" have barely any sales this week? Complete my album takes them from their total sales, not the weekly ones.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 11:34:42 GMT -5
It takes away from weekly sales too, and yes, they're probably near-negative.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 11:36:16 GMT -5
Didn't hold it against me fall off the hot 100 because of complete my album?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 11:36:22 GMT -5
OMN holds at #1 on the Hot 100 for a 7th week.
GS stays at #2.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 11:38:11 GMT -5
Another week, another 1-2 finish for Maroon 5 and PSY on the Billboard Hot 100.
For a sixth straight week, Maroon 5's "One More Night," which spends a seventh overall frame at No. 1, fends off the Korean rapper's "Gangnam Style," fueled by its viral video in which he serves up his unique horse-approximating gyrations.
The songs are the first to place at Nos. 1 and 2, respectively, for six consecutive weeks since Rihanna's "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris, kept LMFAO's "Sexy and I Know It" at No. 2 for seven weeks last November/December. A positive for PSY to keep in mind: after those seven weeks, "Sexy" at last switched spots with "Love," logging its first of two weeks at No. 1. Perhaps if one song mocking one's own appeal ("Sexy") can reach the top, so can another ("Style").
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Oct 31, 2012 11:40:51 GMT -5
Red sold 1,208,000 times this week!
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Oct 31, 2012 11:43:38 GMT -5
Another week, another 1-2 finish for Maroon 5 and PSY on the Billboard Hot 100. For a sixth straight week, Maroon 5's "One More Night," which spends a seventh overall frame at No. 1, fends off the Korean rapper's "Gangnam Style," fueled by its viral video in which he serves up his unique horse-approximating gyrations. The songs are the first to place at Nos. 1 and 2, respectively, for six consecutive weeks since Rihanna's "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris, kept LMFAO's "Sexy and I Know It" at No. 2 for seven weeks last November/December. A positive for PSY to keep in mind: after those seven weeks, "Sexy" at last switched spots with "Love," logging its first of two weeks at No. 1. Perhaps if one song mocking one's own appeal ("Sexy") can reach the top, so can another ("Style").
"Style" is also the first song to spend six weeks at No. 2 on the Hot 100 without ascending to the summit since Maroon 5's previous single, "Payphone," featuring Wiz Khalifa, peaked at the runner-up spot for six weeks in May/July/August. The race for No. 1 was again quite close, as it has been in recent weeks, as approximately just 600 overall chart points separate "Night" and "Style." The former title declines by less than 1% in points, while the latter gains by 4%. Last week, "Night" led by about 2,000 points. Key to "Night" remaining atop the Hot 100 is that it continues to gain in radio audience, while "Style" decreases in audience for the first time. "Night" logs a fourth week at No. 1 on the Radio Songs chart with a 2% increase to 138 million all-format audience impressions, according to Nielsen BDS. "Style" dips by 6% to 60 million, dropping from No. 12 to No. 13 on the ranking. "Style" widens its lead over "Night" in sales and, although it continues to outrank the latter in streaming, it loses streaming points, while "Night" gains in streaming. Those moves combined with the airplay gain for "Night" and decline for "Style" keep Maroon 5's hit atop the Hot 100. "Style" spends a third week at No. 1 on the Digital Songs chart and leads On-Demand Songs for a fourth frame. The track registers an 11% increase to 255,000 downloads sold, according to Nielsen SoundScan. ("Style" has sold 1.9 million to date.) It maintains its command on On-Demand Songs with 947,000 on-demand streams (down less than 1%), according to BDS. "Night," meanwhile, rebounds 5-4 on Digital Songs, although down 6% to 142,000, and gains by 5% on On-Demand Songs (839,000), where it again bullets at No. 2. Below the continuing drama over the Hot 100's top two titles, fun.'s "Some Nights" holds at its No. 3 peak in its 36th chart week and Ke$ha's "Die Young" rises 5-4 in its fifth frame, charging 17-5 on On-Demand Songs (702,000, up 34%) and 14-11 on Radio Songs (68 million, up 8%). "Young" stays at No. 3 on Digital Songs (150,000, down 4%). The song previews Ke$ha's album "Warrior," due Dec. 4. Rihanna's "Diamonds" jumps 8-5 in its fifth frame on the Hot 100 with top Airplay Gainer honors. It rises 10-9 on Radio Songs (76 million, up 15%), 7-5 on Digital Songs (122,000, up 4%) and 19-6 on On-Demand Songs (686,000, up 33%). The lead single from "Unapologetic" (due Nov. 19) becomes Rihanna's 16th top five Hot 100 hit, a sum bested by only four women in the Hot 100's 54-year history: Madonna (28), Mariah Carey (26), Janet Jackson (24) and Whitney Houston (19). Justin Bieber's "As Long as You Love Me," featuring Big Sean, remains at its No. 6 peak on the Hot 100, while Bruno Mars' "Locked Out of Heaven" roars 15-7 with the Hot 100's top Digital Greatest Gainer award for a second week. Following a full sales tracking week after Mars' well-received double duties as host and musical guest on NBC's "Saturday Night Live" (Oct. 20), the song vaults 9-2 (161,000, up 52%) on Digital Songs. It climbs 19-15 on Radio Songs (54 million, up 16%) and debuts on On-Demand Songs at No. 37 (363,000, up 86%).
"Heaven," the lead single from Mars' sophomore set, "Unorthodox Jukebox" (due Dec. 11), is his ninth Hot 100 top 10, all tallied since he first arrived as a guest on B.o.B's two-week No. 1 "Nothin' on You" in 2010. Alex Clare's "Too Close" slips 7-8 on the Hot 100 and Ne-Yo's "Let Me Love You (Until You Learn to Love Yourself)" bullets at No. 9 for a second week. Chris Brown rounds out the Hot 100's top 10, as "Don't Wake Me Up" ascends 11-10. The song holds at No. 8 on Radio Songs (84 million, up 3%) and rises 21-19 on On-Demand Songs (512,000, up 7%) and 23-21 on Digital Songs (60,000, down 2%). The song is Brown's 12th Hot 100 top 10 and second this year, following "Turn Up the Music," which reached No. 10 in March. Brown hadn't banked multiple top 10s in a year since 2008, when he notched four.
#1: One More Night #2: Gangnam Style #3: Some Nights #4: Die Young #5: Diamonds #6: As Long As You Love Me #7: Locked Out Of Heaven #8: Too Close #9: Let Me Love You (Until You Learn To Love Yourself) #10: Don't Wake Me Up
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 11:43:49 GMT -5
Red sold 1,208,000 times this week! That's nice, but it really doesn't belong in this thread. ???
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 11:46:13 GMT -5
Taylor out of the top 10 then
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Post by josh on Oct 31, 2012 11:47:30 GMT -5
She must have had negative sales, since she's at least #4 radio, that's what she was last week. Since radio is weighted so much.
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 31, 2012 11:55:01 GMT -5
Taylor out of the T10 was not unexpected. With Complete My Album, none of the pre-release songs were expected to have very (if at all) positive sales.
It'll totally be back next week, possibly T5 again, with that out of the way. It's doing great still on radio, digital, and streaming.
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Post by dlostfan on Oct 31, 2012 11:58:01 GMT -5
This week's predictions: 1. One More Night 2. Gangnam Style 3. Some Nights 4. Die Young 5. We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together 6. Diamonds 7. As Long As You Love Me 8. Locked Out of Heaven 9. Too Close 10. Let Me Love You 11. Don't Wake Me Up How much did Taylor sell this week? She must have sold practically 0. But I'm glad I got the rest of the order right. :)
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 31, 2012 12:04:24 GMT -5
The week Speak Now came out, Mine was #2 on Hot Country Songs and didn't even chart on Country Digital Songs. So yeah...probably around zero.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 12:08:58 GMT -5
I take it that "WANEGBT" and "IKYWT" have barely any sales this week? Complete my album takes them from their total sales, not the weekly ones. It takes away from weekly sales too, and yes, they're probably near-negative. To be more specific for p0ison: Complete My Album does not take away from previous week's sales, but from weeks going forward. I.e., BB/Soundscan will not go back and retroactively adjust Taylor's previously reported weekly totals. However, for this week it will subtract the number of people completing their album from the number of people buying the track individually. If this results in a negative number I think they take the amount that goes past zero and subtract that from the next week's total, but if I'm wrong on this someone please correct me. (Loose example: if 100k people downloaded the track individually this week, but another 150,000 people who had previously bought it completed their album purchase, that means her sales for this week = -50k. Soundscan will say her sales this week are zero, then subtract the other 50k from next week's sales.) edited to add that I am not suggesting that she 'lost' 50k in sales b/c I have no idea. Just an easy numerical example.
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Post by josh on Oct 31, 2012 12:12:00 GMT -5
I always thought they did a negative number for the week.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Oct 31, 2012 12:17:38 GMT -5
"Style" is also the first song to spend six weeks at No. 2 on the Hot 100 without ascending to the summit since Maroon 5's previous single, "Payphone," featuring Wiz Khalifa, peaked at the runner-up spot for six weeks in May/July/August.
Typical BB nonsense stats. "The first song" since August.... Really?
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Post by NeRD on Oct 31, 2012 12:22:53 GMT -5
Rihanna's "Diamonds" jumps 8-5 in its fifth frame on the Hot 100 with top Airplay Gainer honors. It rises 10-9 on Radio Songs (76 million, up 15%), 7-5 on Digital Songs (122,000, up 4%) and 19-6 on On-Demand Songs (686,000, up 33%). The lead single from "Unapologetic" (due Nov. 19) becomes Rihanna's 16th top five Hot 100 hit, a sum bested by only four women in the Hot 100's 54-year history: Madonna (28), Mariah Carey (26), Janet Jackson (24) and Whitney Houston (19).
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Post by Tea-why on Oct 31, 2012 12:29:57 GMT -5
The best top-10 in a while!! I'm glad Chris Brown and Bruno Mars made the top-10, and Riri is top-5 :)
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Post by Joe1240 on Oct 31, 2012 12:35:00 GMT -5
Taylor drops from #4 to ?.Taylor should go back top ten soon.Too fast of a fall.
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Post by icefire9 on Oct 31, 2012 12:48:39 GMT -5
Taylor drops from #4 to ?.Taylor should go back top ten soon.Too fast of a fall. It only fell out of the top 10 because of Complete My Album on itunes. People who bought Taylor's new album get a discount if they've bought tracks off the album beforehand. These count as negative sales in the week the album was bought, but I don't think subtract from the total sales of the song.
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Post by josh on Oct 31, 2012 13:03:30 GMT -5
Yes Complete My Album counts both as a negative sale for the week AND total sales.
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Post by Envoirment on Oct 31, 2012 13:07:50 GMT -5
The album sold ~465k on itunes. So WANEGBT could have lost up to that amount.
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Post by Rodze on Oct 31, 2012 13:47:39 GMT -5
"Complete my album" only affects this week's sales, even to the point they become negative.
The total isn't changed because of "complete my album".
new total = last week total + this week's sales
Always that.*
If it so happens "this week's sales" is a negative number, then, by the Mathematics we know and use, yeah, "new total" will be lower than "last week total".
*Excluding adjustments made by SoundScan for whatever reason.
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Post by josh on Oct 31, 2012 13:51:14 GMT -5
Why would they make the week lose sales but not lose sales overall.
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Post by Lozzy on Oct 31, 2012 13:52:39 GMT -5
"Complete my album" only affects this week's sales, even to the point they become negative. The total isn't changed because of "complete my album". new total = last week total + this week's salesAlways that.* If it so happens "this week's sales" is a negative number, then, by the Mathematics we know and use, yeah, "new total" will be lower than "last week total". *Excluding adjustments made by SoundScan for whatever reason. Do you have an official source for this? Not that I don't believe you, but I'd like to have some proper documentation if possible since it's always been a confusing issue.
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Post by josh on Oct 31, 2012 13:55:30 GMT -5
THE COMPLETION PROCESS
Dear Fred,
First of all, thank you for always mollifying us chart freaks with answers about Billboard's chart policies!
iTunes released four of the Jonas Brothers' singles before their actual album came out and all four debuted in the top 20 due to digital sales ("Burnin' Up" at No. 5, "Pushin' Me Away" at No. 16, "Tonight" at No. 8 and "A Little Bit Longer" at No. 11).
When the Jonas Brothers' album came out, it sold 525,000 copies in its first week. If you had purchased any of the four singles on iTunes, you could complete the album when it came out. Does completing your album count as buying an album? It doesn't seem fair to get points for singles sales and then also get album sales. I am utterly confused, so please clear up this question.
Aaron Aceves Los Angeles, Calif.
Dear Aaron,
It's a good question, one that was never an issue until iTunes introduced the completion process. When I was growing up, you couldn't buy 45s and then purchase the rest of the tracks on an album to have the complete LP.
To get an accurate and detailed answer to your query, I turned to Billboard's director of charts and senior analyst Geoff Mayfield. Here's what he had to say:
"When a consumer completes an album, the original tracks that were bought individually get processed as returns. That means that as albums are completed, charting songs will have some sales subtracted from the title's sales in the weeks such returns are processed. However, the original sale continues to count in the week the song purchase was made."
In other words, we don't go back and and refigure the charts, as what's done is done. But when the "singles" are processed as "returns," the total sales numbers for a given song would be subtracted from that sales week's total. No source, but looks like an Ask Billboard type entry.
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