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Post by brucelover on Apr 3, 2013 22:31:11 GMT -5
It's very telling of how insanely fast the Top 40 landscape is changing now that two traditionally "urban" artists like Chris Brown and Nicki put out dance lead singles a year ago and fit in perfectly with everything else, and now that would be viewed as tired, generic and would likely flop.
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Post by lugus15 on Apr 3, 2013 22:33:33 GMT -5
You're forgetting YouTube. It can't be that, because for last week's chart WIWYM was above S&T in the Youtube charts. The only possible explanation is that the ¨Complete My Album¨ negative sales of S&T were not counted towards the chart points, and that would have put S&T above WIWYM in the sales component. |
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 4, 2013 3:07:58 GMT -5
Still that's a pretty big airplay start considering he only had one hit from Fortune. "Turn Up The Music" and "Don't Wake Me Up" makes up two.  And the #3 R&B hit "Don't Judge Me". And "Strip" if that counts. |
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Apr 4, 2013 4:05:33 GMT -5
I was thinking of using "Stairway To Heaven" as an example, but I am not sure if it was ever played by Top 40 stations (the only stations Billboard surveyed for the HOT 100 until 1991). I know it was a huge hit on the FM Album rock stations that were so popular in the 1970s. It did get played on Top 40, or, at least, appeared on some stations' charts. You can see a sampling of Top 40 charts that reported the song here. Thanks for sharing the link, I didn't know this site existed! |
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Apr 4, 2013 4:13:28 GMT -5
Can someone please explain HOW IN HELL Suit & Tie was, last week, above (#3) WIWYM (#4), when it was: Airplay: going by this week's numbers and %, aprox Suit & Tie around 115 AI WIWYM around 131 AI Sales: aprox. Suit & Tie 100,000 WIWYM 215,000 Streaming: Suit & Tie 2.4 million WIWYM 4.6 million (aprox.) On-Demand: Suit & Tie 1.9 million WIWYM ?? (but it was at #4 in the chart, and #1 & #2 had 1.9 & 1.8 million respectively, so it couldn't have been less than 1 million). How Suit & Tie was above WIWYM when it was under in 3 of the chart components???? How much does On-Demand represents for the chart points???? The total streams # of 2.4 million you quote for "Suit & Tie" is the # for "Mirrors", the total streams for Suit & Tie is more than "When I Was Your Man" (#4 on the streaming chart vs. #6). On-demand streams are double the weight of passive streaming. It was 150 for on-demand and 300 for passive before YouTube videos were added. Not sure what the weightings are now (I have been using 400 & 200 as an estimate). |
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Post by spooky21 on Apr 4, 2013 5:04:42 GMT -5
It's very telling of how insanely fast the Top 40 landscape is changing now that two traditionally "urban" artists like Chris Brown and Nicki put out dance lead singles a year ago and fit in perfectly with everything else, and now that would be viewed as tired, generic and would likely flop. I find these changes fascinating! Very excited to see what genre will take over top 40 next. We are in the calm before a new era at Radio. It will be interesting to see which artist starts a new movement. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 8:21:01 GMT -5
this week last week 2 weeks weeks on title, artist peak
1 1 2 26 #1 6 wks Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz 1
2 4 3 15 When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 2
3 3 4 12 Suit & Tie, Justin Timberlake Featuring Jay Z 3
4 2 1 7 Harlem Shake, Baauer 1
5 6 9 7 Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Featuring Nate Ruess 5
6 5 5 8 Stay, Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko 3
7 15 18 31 Radioactive, Imagine Dragons 7
8 7 6 8 Started From The Bottom, Drake 6
9 8 11 10 Feel This Moment, Pitbull Featuring Christina Aguilera 8
10 0 Hot Shot Debut 1 The Way, Ariana Grande Featuring Mac Miller 10
11 13 25 7 Mirrors, Justin Timberlake 11
12 10 7 24 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 2
13 12 12 17 Daylight, Maroon 5 7
14 9 10 11 Love Me, Lil Wayne Featuring Drake & Future 9
15 27 40 8 Can't Hold Us, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Ray Dalton 15
16 11 8 18 Scream & Shout, will.i.am & Britney Spears 3
17 21 19 5 Heart Attack, Demi Lovato 12
18 16 17 21 Sweet Nothing, Calvin Harris Featuring Florence Welch 10
19 14 13 26 Locked Out Of Heaven, Bruno Mars 1
20 19 20 13 Pour It Up, Rihanna 19
21 18 16 22 F**kin Problems, A$AP Rocky Featuring Drake, 2 Chainz & Kendrick Lamar 8
22 24 26 13 Carry On, fun. 20
23 17 14 43 Ho Hey, The Lumineers 3
24 33 34 9 I Love It, Icona Pop Featuring Charli XCX 24
25 20 15 28 Don't You Worry Child, Swedish House Mafia Featuring John Martin 6
26 22 21 34 I Will Wait, Mumford & Sons 12
27 28 36 8 My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up), Fall Out Boy 26
28 23 22 43 It's Time, Imagine Dragons 15
29 30 31 11 Troublemaker, Olly Murs Featuring Flo Rida 29
30 38 47 8 Wagon Wheel, Darius Rucker 30
31 36 38 7 Bad, Wale Featuring Tiara Thomas 31
32 29 28 45 Little Talks, Of Monsters And Men 20
33 26 64 5 22, Taylor Swift 26
34 25 24 12 Sure Be Cool If You Did, Blake Shelton 24
35 39 48 7 Bugatti, Ace Hood Featuring Future & Rick Ross 35
36 40 35 8 Downtown, Lady Antebellum 35
37 32 27 23 Catch My Breath, Kelly Clarkson 19
38 41 39 10 Mama's Broken Heart, Miranda Lambert 38
39 31 23 30 Girl On Fire, Alicia Keys Featuring Nicki Minaj 11
40 43 37 30 Sail, AWOLNATION 30
41 35 30 23 Poetic Justice, Kendrick Lamar Featuring Drake 26
42 49 52 10 Get Your Shine On, Florida Georgia Line 42
43 37 32 23 Try, P!nk 9
44 34 29 30 Gangnam Style, PSY 2
45 51 57 7 Alive, Krewella 45
46 45 53 28 Madness, Muse 45
47 50 51 13 I Drive Your Truck, Lee Brice 47
48 53 60 7 Power Trip, J. Cole Featuring Miguel 48
49 48 42 41 One More Night, Maroon 5 1
50 46 41 40 Home, Phillip Phillips 6
51 57 66 13 If I Didn't Have You, Thompson Square 51
52 82 – 2 Wop, J. Dash 52
53 56 58 8 Pirate Flag, Kenny Chesney 53
54 54 54 19 Somebody's Heartbreak, Hunter Hayes 54
55 52 45 16 All Gold Everything, Trinidad James 36
56 65 81 5 Highway Don't Care, Tim McGraw With Taylor Swift 56
57 61 67 6 Next To Me, Emeli Sande 57
58 59 61 8 R.I.P., Young Jeezy Featuring 2 Chainz 58
59 58 56 9 Loveeeeeee Song, Rihanna Featuring Future 55
60 42 – 2 #thatPOWER, will.i.am Featuring Justin Bieber 42
61 55 44 16 Two Black Cadillacs, Carrie Underwood 41
62 62 55 14 Kiss You, One Direction 46
63 80 93 3 1994, Jason Aldean 63
64 60 59 4 Gone, Gone, Gone, Phillip Phillips 59
65 67 71 13 Give It All We Got Tonight, George Strait 65
66 63 65 20 I'm Different, 2 Chainz 27
67 0 New 1 Boys 'Round Here, Blake Shelton Featuring Pistol Annies & Friends 67
68 69 72 10 Love And War, Tamar Braxton 57
69 100 94 5 Levitate, Hadouken! 69
70 71 78 8 I Can Take It From There, Chris Young 70
71 76 79 14 Battle Scars, Lupe Fiasco & Guy Sebastian 71
72 74 84 6 Like Jesus Does, Eric Church 72
73 75 82 7 We Still In This B****, B.o.B Featuring T.I. & Juicy J 73
74 78 – 2 Rich As F**k, Lil Wayne Featuring 2 Chainz 74
75 68 63 18 One Of Those Nights, Tim McGraw 32
76 70 69 17 Neva End, Future 52
77 73 68 15 C'Mon, Ke$ha 27
78 84 – 6 Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe, Kendrick Lamar 78
79 72 80 4 Kisses Down Low, Kelly Rowland 72
80 0 New 1 The Phoenix, Fall Out Boy 80
81 88 95 14 Cups (Pitch Perfect's When I'm Gone), Anna Kendrick 64
82 93 – 4 Karate Chop (Remix), Future Featuring Lil Wayne 82
83 86 – 2 Clarity, Zedd Featuring Foxes 83
84 83 74 7 One Way Or Another (Teenage Kicks), One Direction 13
85 66 – 2 Molly, Tyga Featuring Cedric Gervais, Wiz Khalifa & Mally Mall 66
86 90 – 5 All Around The World, Justin Bieber Featuring Ludacris 22
87 64 – 2 Pusher Love Girl, Justin Timberlake 64
88 97 – 2 Hey Pretty Girl, Kip Moore 88
89 0 Re-Entry 2 If I Lose Myself, OneRepublic 74
90 81 75 4 Show Out, Juicy J Featuring Big Sean And Young Jeezy 75
91 85 92 5 More Than Miles, Brantley Gilbert 85
92 99 – 3 Beat This Summer, Brad Paisley 92
93 0 Re-Entry 3 Same Love, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Mary Lambert 89
94 87 87 3 DONE., The Band Perry 87
95 92 – 2 Anywhere With You, Jake Owen 92
96 0 Re-Entry 3 Wild For The Night, A$AP Rocky Featuring Skrillex 82
97 91 98 6 Changed, Rascal Flatts 73
98 0 New 1 Lego House, Ed Sheeran 98
99 94 77 3 Freaks, French Montana Featuring Nicki Minaj 77
100 95 96 10 Dope, Tyga Featuring Rick Ross 68
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 9:19:00 GMT -5
Airplay
this week last week 2 weeks weeks on title, artist peak
1 1 2 10 #1 2 wks When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 1
2 3 3 12 Suit & Tie, Justin Timberlake Feat. Jay-Z 2
3 2 1 16 Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Feat. Wanz 1
4 4 4 17 Daylight, Maroon 5 3
5 6 11 8 Stay, Rihanna Feat. Mikky Ekko 5
6 5 5 18 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 1
7 8 9 18 Sweet Nothing, Calvin Harris Feat. Florence Welch 7
8 12 13 9 Feel This Moment, Pitbull Feat. Christina Aguilera 8
9 7 6 26 Locked Out Of Heaven, Bruno Mars 1
10 9 7 21 Don't You Worry Child, Swedish House Mafia Feat. John Martin 3
11 10 10 25 Ho Hey, The Lumineers 2
12 13 12 25 I Will Wait, Mumford & Sons 12
13 18 31 5 Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Feat. Nate Ruess 13
14 11 8 17 Scream & Shout, will.i.am Feat. Britney Spears 5
15 14 14 12 Pour It Up, Rihanna 13
16 15 16 23 It's Time, Imagine Dragons 14
17 16 15 20 Catch My Breath, Kelly Clarkson 11
18 17 20 7 Started From The Bottom, Drake 17
19 25 28 10 Carry On, fun. 19
20 22 27 12 I Drive Your Truck, Lee Brice 20
21 23 24 17 Somebody's Heartbreak, Hunter Hayes 21
22 24 25 10 Love Me, Lil Wayne Feat. Drake & Future 22
23 19 17 21 Try, P!nk 5
24 28 30 9 Downtown, Lady Antebellum 24
25 26 26 19 Little Talks, Of Monsters And Men 25
26 31 36 11 If I Didn't Have You, Thompson Square 26
27 21 18 17 F**kin Problems, A$AP Rock Feat. Drake, 2 Chainz & Kendrick Lamar 14
28 27 23 12 Poetic Justice, Kendrick Lamar Feat. Drake 19
29 30 34 9 I Can Take It From There, Chris Young 29
30 20 19 11 Sure Be Cool If You Did, Blake Shelton 19
31 34 38 5 Heart Attack, Demi Lovato 31
32 29 29 36 One More Night, Maroon 5 1
33 32 37 9 Troublemaker, Olly Murs Feat. Flo Rida 32
34 37 42 8 Mama's Broken Heart, Miranda Lambert 34
35 36 40 8 Pirate Flag, Kenny Chesney 35
36 33 32 32 Home, Phillip Phillips 6
37 39 47 6 Alive, Krewella 37
38 38 49 6 Get Your Shine On, Florida Georgia Line 38
39 55 – 2 Can't Hold Us, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Feat. Ray Dalton 39
40 40 45 10 Madness, Muse 40
41 50 61 3 22, Taylor Swift 41
42 48 57 4 Bad, Wale Feat. Tiara Thomas 42
43 44 44 8 Loveeeeeee Song, Rihanna Feat. Future 43
44 42 52 7 Love And War, Tamar Braxton 42
45 47 50 8 Give It All We Got Tonight, George Strait 45
46 49 53 5 Wagon Wheel, Darius Rucker 46
47 52 55 6 Next To Me, Emeli Sande 47
48 35 22 16 Two Black Cadillacs, Carrie Underwood 22
49 51 54 5 More Than Miles, Brantley Gilbert 49
50 57 62 5 I Love It, Icona Pop Feat. Charli XCX 50
51 53 60 5 Like Jesus Does, Eric Church 51
52 41 35 17 One Of Those Nights, Tim McGraw 22
53 56 59 5 My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up), Fall Out Boy 53
54 60 – 2 Beat This Summer, Brad Paisley 54
55 59 70 3 1994, Jason Aldean 55
56 0 Hot Shot Debut 1 Mirrors, Justin Timberlake 56
57 43 39 26 Girl On Fire, Alicia Keys Feat. Nicki Minaj 11
58 58 58 8 R.I.P., Young Jeezy Feat. 2 Chaniz 56
59 61 65 5 Changed, Rascal Flatts 59
60 70 – 2 Highway Don't Care, Tim McGraw With Taylor Swift 60
61 64 68 4 Bugatti, Ace Hood Feat. Future & Rick Ross 61
62 62 67 4 We Still In This B****, B.o.B Feat. T.I. & Juicy J 62
63 71 – 2 DONE., The Band Perry 63
64 65 – 2 All Around The World, Justin Bieber Feat. Ludacris 64
65 68 – 2 Power Trip, J. Cole Feat. Miguel 65
66 67 69 5 She Cranks My Tractor, Dustin Lynch 66
67 73 – 2 Can't Shake You, Gloriana 67
68 75 – 2 Karate Chop (Remix), Future Feat. Lil Wayne 68
69 72 – 2 Jump Right In, Zac Brown Band 69
70 0 New 1 American Beautiful, The Henningsens 70
71 69 – 2 Kisses Down Low, Kelly Rowland 69
72 0 New 1 Anywhere With You, Jake Owen 72
73 63 56 14 Neva End, Future 48
74 0 New 1 Hey Pretty Girl, Kip Moore 74
75 0 New 1 #thatPOWER, will.i.am Feat. Justin Bieber 75
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 9:19:18 GMT -5
Digital Songs
this week last week 2 weeks weeks on title, artist peak
1 1 5 6 #1 2 wks Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Featuring Nate Ruess 1
2 2 1 26 Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz 1
3 8 10 21 Radioactive, Imagine Dragons 3
4 4 2 13 When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 2
5 3 3 8 Stay, Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko 2
6 0 Hot Shot Debut 1 The Way, Ariana Grande Featuring Mac Miller 6
7 10 4 11 Suit & Tie, Justin Timberlake Featuring Jay Z 2
8 5 7 9 Feel This Moment, Pitbull Featuring Christina Aguilera 5
9 16 23 5 Can't Hold Us, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Ray Dalton 9
10 11 11 5 Heart Attack, Demi Lovato 4
11 14 17 6 I Love It, Icona Pop Featuring Charli XCX 11
12 0 Re-Entry 5 Mirrors, Justin Timberlake 8
13 12 15 8 My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up), Fall Out Boy 3
14 7 9 8 Started From The Bottom, Drake 5
15 6 6 7 Harlem Shake, Baauer 2
16 15 16 9 Carry On, fun. 13
17 19 27 8 Wagon Wheel, Darius Rucker 17
18 21 20 10 Troublemaker, Olly Murs Featuring Flo Rida 18
19 20 18 16 Daylight, Maroon 5 7
20 17 30 12 Pour It Up, Rihanna 17
21 18 12 19 Scream & Shout, will.i.am & Britney Spears 1
22 42 57 7 22, Taylor Swift 7
23 23 14 24 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 1
24 24 22 34 I Will Wait, Mumford & Sons 4
25 22 19 12 Sure Be Cool If You Did, Blake Shelton 13
26 26 31 9 Mama's Broken Heart, Miranda Lambert 26
27 37 36 9 Get Your Shine On, Florida Georgia Line 27
28 31 29 40 Little Talks, Of Monsters And Men 23
29 30 40 25 Madness, Muse 29
30 34 34 8 Downtown, Lady Antebellum 20
31 39 41 7 Bugatti, Ace Hood Featuring Future & Rick Ross 31
32 43 43 5 Highway Don't Care, Tim McGraw With Taylor Swift 14
33 9 – 2 #thatPOWER, will.i.am Featuring Justin Bieber 9
34 41 37 35 Sail, AWOLNATION 26
35 44 35 35 It's Time, Imagine Dragons 18
36 27 24 26 Locked Out Of Heaven, Bruno Mars 1
37 13 13 11 Love Me, Lil Wayne Featuring Drake & Future 3
38 0 New 1 Boys 'Round Here, Blake Shelton Featuring Pistol Annies & Friends 38
39 33 32 20 Sweet Nothing, Calvin Harris Featuring Florence Welch 12
40 35 28 27 Don't You Worry Child, Swedish House Mafia Featuring John Martin 4
41 0 New 1 The Phoenix, Fall Out Boy 41
42 49 49 34 Cruise, Florida Georgia Line 11
43 38 33 23 F**kin' Problems, A$AP Rocky Featuring Drake, 2 Chainz & Kendrick Lamar 14
44 32 25 43 Ho Hey, The Lumineers 3
45 36 26 30 Girl On Fire, Alicia Keys Featuring Nicki Minaj 3
46 28 21 4 Gone, Gone, Gone, Phillip Phillips 21
47 40 50 5 Bad, Wale Featuring Tiara Thomas 40
48 52 60 4 Alive, Krewella 48
49 47 39 26 Hall Of Fame, The Script Featuring will.i.am 14
50 29 – 2 Rich As F**k, Lil Wayne Featuring 2 Chainz 29
51 46 38 21 Catch My Breath, Kelly Clarkson 11
52 25 – 2 Molly, Tyga Featuring Cedric Gervais, Wiz Khalifa & Mally Mall 25
53 48 42 41 Home, Phillip Phillips 1
54 53 45 5 Next To Me, Emeli Sande 44
55 51 47 7 Pirate Flag, Kenny Chesney 42
56 0 Re-Entry 9 Cups, Anna Kendrick 37
57 71 – 3 If I Didn't Have You, Thompson Square 41
58 0 New 1 One Of Us, Sarah Simmons 58
59 0 New 1 Counting Stars, OneRepublic 59
60 50 48 22 Try, P!nk 10
61 0 Re-Entry 2 If I Lose Myself, OneRepublic 26
62 54 72 4 Power Trip, J. Cole Featuring Miguel 54
63 0 New 1 1994, Jason Aldean 63
64 56 55 32 Gangnam Style, PSY 1
65 68 66 46 Titanium, David Guetta Featuring Sia 6
66 60 64 9 I Drive Your Truck, Lee Brice 60
67 64 65 8 Battle Scars, Lupe Fiasco & Guy Sebastian 23
68 57 71 50 Some Nights, fun. 3
69 67 67 8 R.I.P., Young Jeezy Featuring 2 Chainz 44
70 61 52 49 Wanted, Hunter Hayes 13
71 55 44 46 A Thousand Years, Christina Perri 20
72 62 51 12 Kiss You, One Direction 38
73 65 59 12 Two Black Cadillacs, Carrie Underwood 38
74 73 61 13 C'Mon, Ke$ha 21
75 75 74 39 One More Night, Maroon 5 2
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 10:07:50 GMT -5
It's very telling of how insanely fast the Top 40 landscape is changing now that two traditionally "urban" artists like Chris Brown and Nicki put out dance lead singles a year ago and fit in perfectly with everything else, and now that would be viewed as tired, generic and would likely flop. Both were already seen as incredibly generic at the time. pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pop&action=display&thread=113915&page=1Just a quick browse through the first page shows that. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 4, 2013 10:20:28 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, wasn't MC Hammer's "U Can't Touch This" a limited single back in 1990? Yes. Mariah, like R&B, is a popular scapegoat here. :'( UCTT was only released as a 12 inch single. Mariah is a popular scapegoat here because she discounted single after single after single. It wasn't just one... |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 4, 2013 10:28:27 GMT -5
www.usatoday.com/story/idolchatter/2013/03/27/american-idol-sales-casey-abrams-carrie-underwood/2024641/Idol tracks Phillip Phillips, Gone, Gone, Gone (56,000, -14%, 332,000) Kelly Clarkson, Catch My Breath (41,000, -13%, 1.214 million) Phillip Phillips, Home (39,000, -4%, 4.248 million) Carrie Underwood, Two Black Cadillacs (29,000, -7%, 599,000) Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (16,000, -12%, 2.012 million) Jessia Sanchez, Tonight (13,000, debut, 13,000) Kelly Clarkson feat. Vince Gill, Don't Rush (9,000, -6%, 225,000) Carrie Underwood, Good Girl (7,000, -8%, 1.665 million) Carrie Underwood, Before He Cheats (4,000, -2%, 3.735 million)
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 4, 2013 10:33:20 GMT -5
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Post by spooky21 on Apr 4, 2013 10:50:56 GMT -5
Yes. Mariah, like R&B, is a popular scapegoat here. :'( UCTT was only released as a 12 inch single. Mariah is a popular scapegoat here because she discounted single after single after single. It wasn't just one... Which ones? I only recall Loverboy being mass discounted to 49 cents. That one can certainly be proved since it made the news and gossip sites. I also thought it was a Columbia startegy during those early 00's. I believe Bootylicious was also heavily discounted when it charting. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 4, 2013 11:06:28 GMT -5
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Post by Lozzy on Apr 4, 2013 11:53:55 GMT -5
I was just looking through the digital chart, and (rounded): Rank - Artist - Title - Sales TW - % Change - Sales LW - Total Sales
12 TIMBERLAKE*JUSTIN MIRRORS 118000 -591 -24000 481000 Wow at the -24k last week! It lost presumably ~140k due to Complete My Album. Also lol at the percentage change being -591 despite it having 142k more this week than last week. I know it's technically correct but it still feels wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 3:28:37 GMT -5
good for battle scars and if I lose myself
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 5, 2013 6:47:25 GMT -5
Is "22" in danger of doing "C'Mon"?
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Post by colson on Apr 5, 2013 7:20:43 GMT -5
UCTT was only released as a 12 inch single. Mariah is a popular scapegoat here because she discounted single after single after single. It wasn't just one... Which ones? I only recall Loverboy being mass discounted to 49 cents. That one can certainly be proved since it made the news and gossip sites. I also thought it was a Columbia startegy during those early 00's. I believe Bootylicious was also heavily discounted when it charting. It's really irrelevant because in most of those cases the album was selling well and most of those singles had good airplay. Actually it was a smart business move to get the high Hot 100 placement and let the album continue to accumulate steady sales. The label could've easily not released any singles to help boost album sales, but you don't hear people here mentioning that, while numerous other acts tried that strategy and it worked for them. I remember in the 90s numerous artists discounting their singles but certain people here are only like to mention Mariah because she got #1 singles and others didn't because they supposedly didn't discount their single(s). I remember seeing Janet's 'Again' being on sale for 49 cents and that helped it get to #1. It was smart move by her Virgin label to discount it because when I saw it on sale it was during the holiday season while it was stalling in the top 10, but had been on the charts for months. |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 5, 2013 7:22:19 GMT -5
Discounts usually are smart moves if the goal is to sell stuff
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 7:34:06 GMT -5
UCTT was only released as a 12 inch single. Mariah is a popular scapegoat here because she discounted single after single after single. It wasn't just one... Which ones? I only recall Loverboy being mass discounted to 49 cents. That one can certainly be proved since it made the news and gossip sites. I also thought it was a Columbia startegy during those early 00's. I believe Bootylicious was also heavily discounted when it charting. It was. People complain about "Loverboy" because it's #2 peak seemed ridiculous compared to "Bootylicious," which seemed like a 'deserving' #1. They were both heavily discounted in the race for #1 though. |
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Post by colson on Apr 5, 2013 7:47:23 GMT -5
Discounts usually are smart moves if the goal is to sell stuff Yeah, that's the whole point. |
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Apr 5, 2013 7:54:20 GMT -5
Not being a fan (far from it), I thought I would never post comments in support of Mariah Carey. Although some of her hits have been deeply discounted, others have been discontinued at the height of their popularity, resulting in fewer weeks at #1. I am thinking specifically of "I'll Be There" in 1992 (I believe less than 500,000 were produced) and "Fantasy" in 1995.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 7:54:27 GMT -5
It does not matter what the price is. People still need to like it enough to buy it.
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Post by colson on Apr 5, 2013 7:56:25 GMT -5
^Exactly because I'm not buying any single even if it's 1 cent if I don't like it.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 5, 2013 8:27:33 GMT -5
that may be true, but it DOES increase sales.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 9:03:00 GMT -5
It does not matter what the price is. People still need to like it enough to buy it. That's a bad way to look at it. Say there are 2 songs. 500,000 people like Song A, and 200,000 buy it full price. 400,000 people like Song B, and 250,000 buy it because it's cheap. Sure, everyone that bought it likes it, but the first song that was sold at full price is still more popular, and probably made more money too. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 5, 2013 10:07:53 GMT -5
that may be true, but it DOES increase sales. Yes, it does Someone might not be able to afford a $2.99 cassette single, but can afford 49 cents. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 5, 2013 10:10:17 GMT -5
Which ones? I only recall Loverboy being mass discounted to 49 cents. That one can certainly be proved since it made the news and gossip sites. I also thought it was a Columbia startegy during those early 00's. I believe Bootylicious was also heavily discounted when it charting. It was. People complain about "Loverboy" because it's #2 peak seemed ridiculous compared to "Bootylicious," which seemed like a 'deserving' #1. They were both heavily discounted in the race for #1 though. Yes, Tommy Motola did not want Mariah to be #1 on the Hot 100 that week. He discounted Bootylicious to get back at Mariah. |
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Post by popstop on Apr 5, 2013 10:40:15 GMT -5
^ I'm not ashamed to say I was deliriously happy when Bootylicious hit #1. That's one of my all-time favorites, and made me a permanent fan of Beyonce. I got my co-workers so sick of that song.
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