Billboard Hot 100: 04/13/2013

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Apr 3, 2013 12:21:23 GMT -5 @xiivi said:

Apr 3, 2013 12:15:54 GMT -5 Codex said:

"Pop newcomer Ariana Grande rounds out the Hot 100's top 10, as "The Way," featuring rapper Mac Miller, blasts in at No. 10."

Perfect example of a forgettable top 10 Unless it somehow turns into a hit...

Considering it's already been added by a third of the CHR/Pop panel, I think it can sustain itself.

Plus such a big debut will probably encourage stations to play it more.

[Quixotic Music Lover]

Apr 3, 2013 10:50:11 GMT -5 @2m said:

Apr 3, 2013 10:38:35 GMT -5 Quixotic Music Lover said:

Oh, Casey Kasem. God bless him, I loved that show, but I think I will go with what BB put in print, it is probably more reliable.

Well it's your llist.

I have dozens of copies of these shows that I listened to fairly recently as well as shows from a later date. During this period AT40 used the Hot100 as its source.

After 73 he describes the methodology as sales/airplay

Prior to 1973 he said that the Hot 100 methodology was comprised of 100 retail sales reports from music stores across the country and fed into a big data processing computer (in 1971, it probably was - computers then filled an entire room)

1973 - which you target in your list may have something to do with this.

The June 9th, 1973 Billboard, front page, had a very detailed explanation on the major changes that were made to the methodology (I should have given BB more credit, they were pretty thorough in their description).

Basically due to a dwindling number of singles retailers, they added one-stop retailers (jukebox operators) and placed a greater emphasis on radio airplay.

According to Billboard:

"One-stops are the primary source singles source for operators and, by sampling one-stops, the HOT 100 will include in its' compilation the relative strength of singles in jukeboxes, as well as, sales at the retail and radio play."

Google books is a wonderful thing. :)

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Apr 3, 2013 12:21:23 GMT -5 @xiivi said:

Apr 3, 2013 12:15:54 GMT -5 Codex said:

"Pop newcomer Ariana Grande rounds out the Hot 100's top 10, as "The Way," featuring rapper Mac Miller, blasts in at No. 10."

Perfect example of a forgettable top 10 Unless it somehow turns into a hit...

Considering it's already been added by a third of the CHR/Pop panel, I think it can sustain itself.

I hope it does. But I have a feeling it will catch on at pop, maybe go top 10, but never enter the top 10 on the H100 again.

[renfield75]

Apr 3, 2013 10:50:11 GMT -5 @2m said:

Apr 3, 2013 10:38:35 GMT -5 Quixotic Music Lover said:

Oh, Casey Kasem. God bless him, I loved that show, but I think I will go with what BB put in print, it is probably more reliable.

Well it's your llist.

I have dozens of copies of these shows that I listened to fairly recently as well as shows from a later date. During this period AT40 used the Hot100 as its source.

After 73 he describes the methodology as sales/airplay

Prior to 1973 he said that the Hot 100 methodology was comprised of 100 retail sales reports from music stores across the country and fed into a big data processing computer (in 1971, it probably was - computers then filled an entire room)

1973 - which you target in your list may have something to do with this.

You'e both right, actually. During that time Billboard included airplay for building songs below the top 50, but the top 50 itself was determined solely by sales. Which is why the Hot 100 would mention airplay but AT40 wouldn't. A totally random methodology that didn't last long.

From a May 11, 1968 Billboard article:
BB SHEDS AIRPLAY FACTOR IN TOP HALF OF HOT 100

The top half of Billboard's Hot 100 chart will no longer utilize the airplay ingredient it had been using in the past because of the number of Top 40 format stations which have changed the tabulating process of their printed playlists. This part of the chart is now being tabulated solely from dealers' sales reports from 21 markets across the country.

For the past several months, Top 40 stations have been leaning toward a tighter printed playlist. Many records on their way up have been dropped from station lists making room for stronger new product, or because the station management decided the sound of the disk was not what they desired for their audience, despite the fact that there were sales in the market.

The bottom half of the "Hot 100" and the "Bubbling" chart still involves the ingredients of dealer sales reports and the Top 40 stations' printed lists. In this area of the chart, the airplay reflection is required for the newer product to enable chart movement.

[jebsib]

Have we ever found a hard date in the early 70s when the Hot 100 reintroduced airplay, or are we assumiing it came back on June 9th, 1973? Could airplay not being represented nationally inspire the birth of radio & records, which started in 1973?

[Rocky]

Wow at "Radioactive" and The Way"! The first one was somewhat expected, but Ariana was a surprise. Congratz and I hope she'll reach the top ten again in its run, such a great (you know Grande lol) song.

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The weighting formula of sales/airplay was actually changed numerous times throughout the late 90's and early 00's because of singles sales dropping. They're mentioned in the Hot 100 Spotlight columns during this time period. (don't have specific dates off hand and it's too tedious to find right now)

[josh]

Apr 3, 2013 12:10:46 GMT -5 @xiivi said:

Also Josh's favs have flopped off the charts.

lmao

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Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Top Hot 100; Imagine Dragons, Ariana Grande Hit Top 10

Shop" remains atop the Hot 100 for a second straight week after ranking at No. 2 for five weeks while Baauer's "Harlem Shake" (see below) led the list. "Shop" slips 2-3 on the Nielsen BDS-based Hot 100 Airplay chart, decreasing by 7% to 108 million audience impressions; it previously topped the tally for two weeks. It holds at No. 2 on the Nielsen SoundScan-fueled Hot Digital Songs chart with 282,000 downloads sold (up 21%; all but two titles in the Hot Digital Songs top 25 sport gains this week, a result of both prominent iTunes sale-pricing and consumers likely redeeming gift cards received as presents for Easter). "Shop" spent 10 weeks at No. 1 on Hot Digital Songs.

"Shop" holds at No. 2 on Streaming Songs for a seventh week (after dominating for four) with 9.9 million streams (up 5%), according to BDS. It logs another No. 2 rank on the audio subscription services-based On-Demand Songs chart (1.8 million, down 1%), dropping to the runner-up rank after a record 11 weeks at No. 1. ("Shop" tops Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs for a 12th week.)

After six weeks, a title other than "Shop" or "Shake" occupies the Hot 100's top two, as Bruno Mars' "When I Was Your Man" pushes 4-2. The piano ballad posts a second week at No. 1 on Hot 100 Airplay (142 million, up 8%). (As previously reported, it becomes his sixth No. 1 on the Mainstream Top 40 airplay chart, marking the highest total among solo males.) "Man" holds at No. 4 on Hot Digital Songs (235,000, up 9%) and climbs 6-5 on Streaming Songs (4.6 million, up less than 1%).

"Shop" boasts a 25% lead over "Man" in overall Hot 100 points. "Shop" gains by 8%, while "Man" surges by a comparable 7%.

Justin Timberlake's "Suit & Tie," featuring Jay-Z, remains at its No. 3 Hot 100 peak. As parent album The 20/20 Experience spends a second week atop the Billboard 200, "Suit" stays at No. 1 on On-Demand Songs (1.9 million, up 3%). It rises 3-2 on Hot 100 Airplay (124 million, up 8%) and 10-7 on Hot Digital Songs (183,000, up 81%). (Follow-up "Mirrors" closes in on the Hot 100's top 10, edging 13-11 with top Streaming Gainer kudos; it vaults 15-8 on Streaming Songs with a 72% gain to 4.1 million.)

Notable continued losses in streaming for Baauer's "Shake," which entered the Hot 100 at No. 1 concurrent with the addition of U.S. YouTube video streaming data six weeks ago, help spur its drop from No. 2 to No. 4 drop this week. The viral smash registers a sixth straight week of declines in YouTube streaming, posting a 29% decrease to 14 million streams. That's down from 20 million last week; at its peak, it registered 103 million (upon its Hot 100 debut). "Shake" also tumbles in sales, falling by 12% to 101,000 downloads sold and descending 6-15 on Hot Digital Songs.

P!nk's "Just Give Me a Reason," featuring fun.'s Nate Ruess, advances 6-5 on the Hot 100 (marking her eighth top five hit) with top Airplay Gainer honors. It soars 18-13 on Hot 100 Airplay with a 28% lift to 63 million. "Reason" spends a second week at No. 1 on Hot Digital Songs (286,000, up 18%) and rises 12-10 on Streaming Songs (3.3 million, up 19%).

Rihanna's "Stay," featuring Mikky Ekko, backtracks 5-6 on the Hot 100, although it makes an opposite 6-5 rise on Hot 100 Airplay (93 million, up 15%).

Imagine Dragons storm the Hot 100's top 10, flying 15-7 with "Radioactive," which nets the chart's top Digital Gainer award. Reaching the region in its 31st week, the song makes the third-longest ascent to the top tier, trailing only Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats" (38 weeks, 2006-07) and Creed's "Higher" (36, 1999-2000). "Radioactive" charges 8-3 on Hot Digital Songs with a 117% increase to 236,000. Aiding its exposure is its numerous multimedia synchs, including its placement in promos for the newly-released sci-fi film "The Host" and in the trailer for the video game "Defiance." "Radioactive" spends a seventh week at No. 1 on the Alternative airplay chart and jumps 10-6 on Streaming Songs (4.6 million, up 39%). (The band's breakout hit "It's Time" peaked at No. 15 on the Hot 100 on January.)

Drake's "Started From the Bottom" slips 7-8 on the Hot 100, while Pitbull's "Feel This Moment," featuring Christina Aguilera, regresses 8-9. The latter song climbs 12-8 on Hot 100 Airplay (78 million, up 17%), marking Pitbull's ninth top 10 on the ranking and Aguilera's eighth.

Pop newcomer Ariana Grande rounds out the Hot 100's top 10, as "The Way," featuring rapper Mac Miller, blasts in at No. 10. The bow grants her the first top 10 arrival for a lead female artist making her first Hot 100 appearance since Yael Naim launched at No. 9 more than five years ago (Feb. 16, 2008) with her Apple commercial-powered "New Soul." The 19-year-old Florida-born Grande made her performing debut on Broadway at 15 and has more recently starred in the Nickelodeon sitcom "Victorious." The exposure helps the song start at No. 6 on Hot Digital Songs with 219,000 first-week downloads sold and No. 35 on Streaming Songs (1.4 million). The lead single from her debut album, expected later this year, likewise marks the first Hot 100 top 10 for Miller, whose previous six entries all fell shy of the chart's upper half.

Check Billboard.biz tomorrow (April 4), when all rankings, including the Hot 100, Hot 100 Airplay, Hot Digital Songs and On-Demand Songs, will be refreshed, as they are each Thursday.

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1. Thrift Shop Macklemore & Ryan Lewis (6 weeks)
4-2 When I Was Your Man - Bruno Mars
3-3 Suit & Tie - Justin Timberlake
2-4 Harlem Shake - Baauer
6-5 Just Give Me A Reason - P!nk/Nate Reuss
5-6 Stay - Rihanna/Mikky Ekko
15-7 Radioactive - Imagine Dragons
7-8 Started From The Bottom - Drake
8-9 Feel This Moment - Pitbull/Aguilera
10 The Way - Ariana Grande

[wavey.]

Apr 3, 2013 13:13:35 GMT -5 @2m said:

1. Thrift Shop Macklemore & Ryan Lewis (6 weeks)
4-2 When I Was Your Man - Bruno Mars
3-3 Suit & Tie - Justin Timberlake
2-4 Harlem Shake - Baauer
6-5 Just Give Me A Reason - P!nk/Nate Reuss
5-6 Stay - Rihanna/Mikky Ekko
15-7 Radioactive - Imagine Dragons
7-8 Started From The Bottom - Drake
8-9 Feel This Moment - Pitbull/Aguilera
10 The Way - Ariana Grande/Mac Miller

Fixed.

[Quixotic Music Lover]

Here is my rough estimate of the top 7. Billboard does not break out on-demand from total streaming so I was guessing on the breakdown.

1. Thrift Shop ~ 67,150
2. When I Was Your Man ~ 53,500
3. Suit & Tie ~ 48,800
4. Harlem Shake ~ 44,000
5. Just Give Me One Reason ~ 43,000
6. Stay ~ 39,500
7. Radioactive ~ 35,000

Although "Thrift Shop" has a healthy lead over "When I Was Your Man" the latter's sales strength this week combined with increasing airplay, could make up the big streaming advantage that "Thrift Shop" has (about 14,000 points according to my rough estimates).

"Stay" is hurt by the lack of availability on the on-demand subscription music services.

"Harlem Shake" could exit the top 10 as early as next week if it drops another 6 million YouTube streams.

[Quixotic Music Lover]

Apr 3, 2013 12:42:57 GMT -5 jebsib said:

Have we ever found a hard date in the early 70s when the Hot 100 reintroduced airplay, or are we assumiing it came back on June 9th, 1973? Could airplay not being represented nationally inspire the birth of radio & records, which started in 1973?

Airplay never totally left the HOT 100, but according to the post above it was eliminated from the Top 50 (I learned something new today). From June 9th, 1973 it became a bigger factor in the HOT 100 methodology.

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Apr 3, 2013 11:20:43 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

4/9 Mainstream
Drake "Started From The Bottom" (YMCMB/Republic)
Rihanna "Pour It Up" (Def Jam/IDJMG)

4/16 Mainstream
Florida Georgia Line "Cruise" (Remix f/Nelly) (Republic)
Kendrick Lamar f/Drake "Poetic Justice" (T.D.E./Aftermath/Interscope)

Why so late with these songs finally being sent to CHR? I hate when labels do that.

[Quixotic Music Lover]

Apr 3, 2013 15:05:11 GMT -5 @cynthiarose said:

Apr 3, 2013 11:20:43 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

4/9 Mainstream
Drake "Started From The Bottom" (YMCMB/Republic)
Rihanna "Pour It Up" (Def Jam/IDJMG)

4/16 Mainstream
Florida Georgia Line "Cruise" (Remix f/Nelly) (Republic)
Kendrick Lamar f/Drake "Poetic Justice" (T.D.E./Aftermath/Interscope)

Why so late with these songs finally being sent to CHR? I hate when labels do that.

Good question, my initial guess would be limited resources.

[Quixotic Music Lover]

This part of the chart is now being tabulated solely from dealers' sales reports from 21 markets across the country.

I did a double take when I read this sentence. The top 50 of the HOT 100 used to be based on record sales in 21 markets?!!? Wow talking about a small sample size.

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good for radioactive.I did not expect such a rock song enters top 10

[Au$tin]

Apr 3, 2013 15:05:11 GMT -5 @cynthiarose said:

Apr 3, 2013 11:20:43 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

4/9 Mainstream
Drake "Started From The Bottom" (YMCMB/Republic)
Rihanna "Pour It Up" (Def Jam/IDJMG)

4/16 Mainstream
Florida Georgia Line "Cruise" (Remix f/Nelly) (Republic)
Kendrick Lamar f/Drake "Poetic Justice" (T.D.E./Aftermath/Interscope)

Why so late with these songs finally being sent to CHR? I hate when labels do that.

For Rihanna, the answer is simple. "Stay" was to be the original pop single, with "Pour It Up" going to urban and rhythmic only. Well, "Pour It Up" is creeping up on the top 40 on pop, albeit very, very slowly. I guess her label finally decided that they could go ahead and throw it out there since "Stay" has become a hit on pop, "Pour It Up" can't possibly hurt it now. Though, I highly doubt "Pour It Up" is going to go much further than the upper 30s on pop.

Drake? I'm thinking probably because the song is almost too urban for pop, but after seeing how well it's been doing digitally and streaming wise, his label probably deicded that pop maybe could latch onto it a bit for higher airplay totals.

"Cruise" is another prime example of how poorly country labels are doing these days when it comes to crossing over. I completely understand that the country format comes first and foremost, but you'd think that the country labels would be able to tell which songs would work on pop and which wouldn't and send the ones that would out to pop ASAP to capitalize on airplay and sales. Though... by delaying the cross over, it does keep the song's life going longer and does probably add a few thousand copies to the album's sales totals. Interesting topic there. Because it's not just "Cruise." "Better Dig Two" is scheduled for a late April adds date for pop. Then you have the late releases of "Wanted," "If I Die Young," "Need You Now," etc. Then there's the unfortunate songs that were destined to cross over that never got the chance: "Blown Away," "Don't You Wanna Stay," "Every Storm (Runs Out of Rain)," etc.

I have no clue about "Poetic Justice."

[RadioBeatz]

YAY!!!!!!!!!!! for "Radioactive" top 10 and I HOPE pop radio will support it, they're kinda lacking with "Carry On" and "My Songs Know......".

[brucelover]

CHRIS BROWN – Fine China: 13.054

Hold up one second, is this FIRST DAY airplay?! The song came out yesterday no?

[josh]

It's 2 days.

[brucelover]

Still that's a pretty big airplay start considering he only had one hit from Fortune.

[colson]

Apr 3, 2013 9:58:45 GMT -5 jebsib said:

Ice Ice Baby was pulled just as it got to #1, preceeding "i'll Be There" by 18 months.

Now that I think about it, wasn't MC Hammer's "U Can't Touch This" a limited single back in 1990?

[Rocky]

Apr 3, 2013 17:03:33 GMT -5 brucelover said:

Still that's a pretty big airplay start considering he only had one hit from Fortune.

"Turn Up The Music" and "Don't Wake Me Up" makes up two.
Still a good start I think.

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Apr 3, 2013 15:29:54 GMT -5 Quixotic Music Lover said:

Apr 3, 2013 15:05:11 GMT -5 @cynthiarose said:

Why so late with these songs finally being sent to CHR? I hate when labels do that.

Good question, my initial guess would be limited resources.

That would make sense for a lot of other people but seems highly unlikely for Drake and Rihanna. What Au$tin said makes sense, too (particularly on the country part); I guess I just don't get it with the other three. Rihanna is a pop staple and pop has held multiple songs from her before; why the hesitation now? With Drake and Kendrick I'm kind of just wondering why their labels bothered at all. It's not like there is an obvious space for those three songs with the mainstream audience so I feel like if you're going to try you should do it while the points can actually help you, not wait until the song has peaked and is almost completely finished on urban. (Example, "Girl On Fire" could have comfortably made the top 10 if RCA had sent it to pop in a timely manner. They waited too late, and so the song just missed out.)

"Cruise," well, I would still like to pretend it doesn't exist in any incarnation

[WotUNeed]

Apr 3, 2013 9:04:27 GMT -5 Quixotic Music Lover said:

I was thinking of using "Stairway To Heaven" as an example, but I am not sure if it was ever played by Top 40 stations (the only stations Billboard surveyed for the HOT 100 until 1991). I know it was a huge hit on the FM Album rock stations that were so popular in the 1970s.

It did get played on Top 40, or, at least, appeared on some stations' charts. You can see a sampling of Top 40 charts that reported the song here.

[popstop]

I just saw that WIWYM is .69 on Amazon. They are really gunning for next week's number one!

EDIT: Ohhhh, and iTunes.

[lugus15]

Can someone please explain HOW IN HELL Suit & Tie was, last week, above (#3) WIWYM (#4), when it was:

Airplay: going by this week's numbers and %, aprox

Suit & Tie around 115 AI
WIWYM around 131 AI

Sales: aprox.

Suit & Tie 100,000
WIWYM 215,000

Streaming:

Suit & Tie 2.4 million
WIWYM 4.6 million (aprox.)

On-Demand:

Suit & Tie 1.9 million
WIWYM ?? (but it was at #4 in the chart, and #1 & #2 had 1.9 & 1.8 million respectively, so it couldn't have been less than 1 million).

How Suit & Tie was above WIWYM when it was under in 3 of the chart components????

How much does On-Demand represents for the chart points????

[Au$tin]

You're forgetting YouTube.

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Apr 3, 2013 17:07:21 GMT -5 colson said:

Apr 3, 2013 9:58:45 GMT -5 jebsib said:

Ice Ice Baby was pulled just as it got to #1, preceeding "i'll Be There" by 18 months.

Now that I think about it, wasn't MC Hammer's "U Can't Touch This" a limited single back in 1990?

Yes. Mariah, like R&B, is a popular scapegoat here. :'(