rbundy1987
2x Platinum Member
Joined: February 2011
Posts: 2,619
|
Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 16, 2014 21:49:54 GMT -5
jhomes87, should we be watching the rolling or published chart on All Access for Mediabase? I see David is still on the Rolling portion of the chart but now the Published one has no David Nail whatsoever on the chart. Which one is the one to watch right now and the correct one??
|
|
rbundy1987
2x Platinum Member
Joined: February 2011
Posts: 2,619
|
Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 16, 2014 21:57:34 GMT -5
ctryfan1980, you are looking at the ROLLING chart not the published one, which one is right, I have no clue. You have to click the published button to highlight it to get the report.
|
|
McCreerian
9x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2010
Posts: 9,087
|
Post by McCreerian on Feb 16, 2014 21:59:33 GMT -5
ctryfan1980, you are looking at the ROLLING chart not the published one, which one is right, I have no clue. You have to click the published button to highlight it to get the report. Yeah I figured that out, that's why I deleted my post you replied to, haha. This is so confusing! I don't know which chart is right. I'd think the Published chart is right but it says 2/8. I really hope its right cause not only would that put McCreery at #10, it'd put Strait at #35!
|
|
Marv
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2004
Posts: 6,308
|
Post by Marv on Feb 16, 2014 22:05:54 GMT -5
I also have no idea why David Nail didn't go recurrent @ Mediabase on the afternoon update, which is always the one in which the recurrents are removed.
If his tune isn't removed when the final and official chart is released around 8PM (PST), then something's definitely wrong.
|
|
rbundy1987
2x Platinum Member
Joined: February 2011
Posts: 2,619
|
Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 16, 2014 22:10:10 GMT -5
I also have no idea why David Nail didn't go recurrent @ Mediabase on the afternoon update, which is always the one in which the recurrents are removed. If his tune isn't removed when the final and official chart is released around 8PM (PST), then something's definitely wrong. The evening update has happened already and sent Jon Pardi packing and Austin Webb, that is the rolling chart but now the published chart has Nail gone as well with the other 2 I just named. We are waiting on jhomes87 analysis on this matter.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 22:30:20 GMT -5
I also have no idea why David Nail didn't go recurrent @ Mediabase on the afternoon update, which is always the one in which the recurrents are removed. If his tune isn't removed when the final and official chart is released around 8PM (PST), then something's definitely wrong. The evening update has happened already and sent Jon Pardi packing and Austin Webb, that is the rolling chart but now the published chart has Nail gone as well with the other 2 I just named. We are waiting on jhomes87 analysis on this matter. It's very odd--the rolling chart and the published chart should be the exact same chart on Sunday evening, but in this case, they're not. The published chart shows the correct top 10, but the date hasn't been changed (for me it says This Week: Feb 2 thru 8, but it should by 9 thru 15).
|
|
carriekins
5x Platinum Member
With my mouth wide open in a whiskey rain, I could stand here 24 hours a day...
Joined: November 2011
Posts: 5,329
|
Post by carriekins on Feb 16, 2014 22:36:55 GMT -5
This Mediabase chart has David still on the chart and was last updated 1:59 PST. This is the chart I check/use daily in addition to Kworb because it usually updates even when AllAccess doesn't - but only shows top 30.
|
|
rbundy1987
2x Platinum Member
Joined: February 2011
Posts: 2,619
|
Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 16, 2014 22:41:19 GMT -5
This Mediabase chart has David still on the chart and was last updated 1:59 PST. This is the chart I check/use daily in addition to Kworb because it usually updates even when AllAccess doesn't - but only shows top 30. This page could update anytime now, I keep on re-checking each and every 5 to 10 mins. We should know something within an hour or less!!!
|
|
McCreerian
9x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2010
Posts: 9,087
|
Post by McCreerian on Feb 16, 2014 22:42:07 GMT -5
This Mediabase chart has David still on the chart and was last updated 1:59 PST. This is the chart I check/use daily in addition to Kworb because it usually updates even when AllAccess doesn't - but only shows top 30. That's the chart I use too and it's the one I used when I brought up this subject several posts back. So many charts all saying different things. MB is so confusing at times!
|
|
|
Post by 43dudleyvillas on Feb 16, 2014 23:05:29 GMT -5
I've noticed that the published Mediabase charts sometimes seems to have two waves of recurrents on Sunday, one in the afternoon, and one in the evening. I don't know why, and I unfortunately haven't paid close enough attention to figure out what if anything determines which recurrent falls in which wave. It's not an issue every week, but there was a Band Perry recurrent that wasn't reflected until the second Sunday update in the past year. I don't remember which one, but it was either "DONE." or "Better Dig Two." I'll go back and see if I can figure out which one. I'm sorry I'm not being at all precise or specific, but I think you'll see "Whatever She's Got" go recurrent on the published Mediabase chart when the evening update is reflected on that chart. And maybe this is something to watch for in the future, to see if we can pick up a pattern.
ETA: I'm also impressed by the way this song has hung around after peaking. I can't help but wonder, though, if the label has had a hand in trying to keep it afloat after peak to heighten awareness of David's upcoming album release.
|
|
|
Post by countryman87 on Feb 16, 2014 23:29:15 GMT -5
Is there a chance that MB has changed their recurrent rules and not said anything about it?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 23:32:01 GMT -5
Is there a chance that MB has changed their recurrent rules and not said anything about it? This is unlikely. David is recurrent. Some of the chart links aren't displaying it correctly yet but I am 100% confident that he will be recurrent when we get the Aircheck Weekly file on Tuesday evening.
|
|
rbundy1987
2x Platinum Member
Joined: February 2011
Posts: 2,619
|
Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 16, 2014 23:40:41 GMT -5
Is there a chance that MB has changed their recurrent rules and not said anything about it? This is unlikely. David is recurrent. Some of the chart links aren't displaying it correctly yet but I am 100% confident that he will be recurrent when we get the Aircheck Weekly file on Tuesday evening. David's FINISHED!! Mediabase top 30 is showing him missing hahahahaha, he's gone :) Chart updated: www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/allaboutcountry/Charts.asp?format=C1R
|
|
|
Post by 43dudleyvillas on Feb 17, 2014 0:13:05 GMT -5
OK, just to follow up on my previous post, two other instances in which a song that was supposed to go recurrent on Mediabase survived the Sunday afternoon update but was removed in the evening update are: The Band Perry's "Postcard from Paris" (not "Better Dig Two" or "DONE." as I had said earlier, sorry about that) and Kristen Kelly's "Ex-Old Man." In an effort to see if there is anything the three songs had in common, here are their respective weekly updates prior to their recurrency: The Band Perry, "Postcard from Paris" Aircheck Weekly 20 August 2012: #7, 15523 points (-156 points), 4908 plays (-7 plays), 38.622 million AIs (-0.37 million AIs) Aircheck Weekly 27 August 2012: #8, 14698 points (-825 points), 4652 plays (-256 plays), 35.827 million AIs (-2.795 million AIs) Aircheck Weekly 4 September 2012: Recurrent, 9543 points (-5155 points) Kristen Kelly, "Ex-Old Man" Aircheck Weekly 15 October 2012: #29, 4078 points (-3 points), 1301 plays (-7 plays), 9.396 million AIs (+0.949 million AIs) Aircheck Weekly 22 October 2012: #30, 4075 points (-3 points), 1296 plays (-5 plays), 9.394 million AIs (-0.002 million AIs) Aircheck Weekly 29 October 2012: Recurrent David Nail, "Whatever She's Got" Aircheck Weekly 3 February 2014: #3, 23231 points (-84 points), 6763 plays (-8 plays), 55.894 million AIs (+0.553 million AIs) Aircheck Weekly 10 February 2014: #4, 22437 points (-794 points), 6397 plays (-366 plays), 54.273 million AIs (-1.621 million AIs) Aircheck Weekly 18 February 2014: Recurrent Caveat to follow but what these three songs have in common is a very small loss in spins in the first bulletless week. So perhaps the afternoon update simply eliminates more "obvious" recurrents, whereas the evening update eliminates additional recurrents after confirming that the first down week was in fact bulletless. The caveat, of course, would be that I have no idea if there are examples of songs that had similarly small losses of spins in their first bulletless week that were pulled in the Sunday afternoon update instead of the evening one like these three songs were. In any event, I think the takeaway may just be not to expect Mediabase to remove all recurrents in that Sunday afternoon update, especially in the case of songs that had small drops in their first bulletless weeks.
|
|
Marv
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2004
Posts: 6,308
|
Post by Marv on Feb 17, 2014 0:22:37 GMT -5
That was a very late update, 40-60 minutes later than usual, but definitely worth the wait. My best guess is that since Luke barely edged Jason in getting a second week at #1 by 88 points which translated to less than a 10-spin difference, they decided to double-check the spins for accuracy before finalizing the chart.
Who knows?
|
|
onebuffalo
Diamond Member
#LiteralLegender
I am One Buffalo.
Joined: June 2009
Posts: 26,648
|
Post by onebuffalo on Feb 17, 2014 14:31:50 GMT -5
I thought there would be a mention here about David's interview with radio station 92.3 WIL on Wednesday (Feb 12) where he said the next single was going to be "Kiss You Tonight" (songwriters: Jay Knowles, Trent Summar, David Cook). I've heard the whole song performed last summer by one of the songwriters for a charity event. Do you think it's a good choice? Welcome to Pulse Music Board, jkwaej! Because of the slow descent for Whatever She's Got, how many think this will finish at #1 in Billboard for the year?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 14:37:09 GMT -5
Because of the slow descent for Whatever She's Got, how many think this will finish at #1 in Billboard for the year? It has about 0% chance of finishing #1 on any Billboard year-end list. Billboard will split its chart run into 2 years. Only December through mid-February will count towards 2014. And sure, it's had a slower descent, but that's really only bought it 1-2 extra weeks...not a substantial difference, especially when its chart run will already get split between 2 years. If it gets a lot of recurrent airplay throughout the year (and I'm sure it will), it could do quite well on the Mediabase 2014 year-end list...it'll probably do better there than on BB's.
|
|
dajross6
Platinum Member
Joined: June 2009
Posts: 1,133
|
Post by dajross6 on Feb 17, 2014 15:10:52 GMT -5
It definitely has a shot on MB for top song of the year, but I agree it has zero chance on Billboard just in how the chart is tabulated.
|
|
Marv
6x Platinum Member
Joined: September 2004
Posts: 6,308
|
Post by Marv on Feb 17, 2014 20:38:57 GMT -5
This most definitely won't be #1 for the year on either chart, but it will undoubtedly finish much higher on the year-end chart @ Country Aircheck/Mediabase than it will at Billboard; with no more than two weeks left before it falls off the Billboard chart, there are several songs currently behind it and still on the rise which will all pass it in the coming weeks on the BB chart, and AIs as well.
An off-the-top-of my-head list would include Dierks Bentley, Lady Antebellum, Randy Houser, Thompson Square, Frankie Ballard and Brad Paisley, just to name a few, to which I can add yet another awful piece of so-called 'bro-country' dreck, referring to 'Bottoms Up'.
|
|