Billboard Hot 100: 07/06/2013

[velaxti]

Jun 26, 2013 14:15:20 GMT -5 brady47 said:

Jun 26, 2013 8:39:56 GMT -5 velaxti said:

Really? I can't speak for everywhere I guess, but Love Story seemed waaaaaaaay bigger here, and will probably remain Taylor Swift's signature hit. I haven't heard anything about I Knew You Were Trouble since those goat videos, the song seems to have disappeared lol.

Love Story was bigger in North America, Australia, and Sweden, but in every other territory, I'm pretty sure IKYWT beats it, especially in the UK and other parts of Europe.

I can't speak for the rest of Europe, but in the UK Love Story was definitely bigger, since that song was really everywhere when it came out. I'm talking in terms of general impact and how well-known it is. Maybe IKYWT might have sold more, I don't know.

[Au$tin]

IKYWT was definitely bigger than "Love Story" here in the US. Hell, "You Belong with Me" was bigger here in the US than "Love Story" was.

[Wrecking Ball]

Jun 26, 2013 13:35:03 GMT -5 crystalphnx said:

Jun 26, 2013 13:25:37 GMT -5 crystalphnx said:

"Stop" becomes Cyrus' seventh Hot 100 top 10 (including one credited to "Hannah Montana") and first since her highest-charting hit, "Party in the U.S.A." spent three weeks at No. 2 in 2009. The new song is already her third-highest-charting title; "The Climb" rose to No. 4 earlier in 2009.

silly Billboard, didn't "Can't Be Tamed" reach No. 8 in 2010?

Yep!!

Ah top 5 is great for her!

[RadioBeatz]

What is "Come & Get It"'s peak, #5 too?

Damn! "We Can't Stop" is huge on streaming, it dethroned "Gangnam Style"? :o

I lost count on how many top 10 hits Bruno Mars have, this man is truly a hit-maker! "Treasure" is cool.

[brady47]

Jun 26, 2013 14:22:45 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

IKYWT was definitely bigger than "Love Story" here in the US. Hell, "You Belong with Me" was bigger here in the US than "Love Story" was.

Wasn't Love Story her biggest hit in US? I mean, I know it only peaked at #4, but it has sold 5.5 million copies, 34 weeks in the top 20, IKYWT is almost out of the top 50 in its 35th week.

Love Story had some amazing longevity, even more than You Belong With Me which is surprising.

[brady47]

Jun 26, 2013 14:20:43 GMT -5 velaxti said:

Jun 26, 2013 14:15:20 GMT -5 brady47 said:

Love Story was bigger in North America, Australia, and Sweden, but in every other territory, I'm pretty sure IKYWT beats it, especially in the UK and other parts of Europe.

I can't speak for the rest of Europe, but in the UK Love Story was definitely bigger, since that song was really everywhere when it came out. I'm talking in terms of general impact and how well-known it is. Maybe IKYWT might have sold more, I don't know.

Hmm interesting, Love Story and IKYWT both peaked at #2 in the UK (her highest charting hits), but IKYWT had a lot more longevity, it had quite a long run in the UK, but it was more of a sleeper hit, it didn't debut at #2 or #1 like most UK hits.

[crystalphnx]

Jun 26, 2013 15:25:02 GMT -5 brady47 said:

Jun 26, 2013 14:22:45 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

IKYWT was definitely bigger than "Love Story" here in the US. Hell, "You Belong with Me" was bigger here in the US than "Love Story" was.

Wasn't Love Story her biggest hit in US? I mean, I know it only peaked at #4, but it has sold 5.5 million copies, 34 weeks in the top 20, IKYWT is almost out of the top 50 in its 35th week.

Love Story had some amazing longevity, even more than You Belong With Me which is surprising.

thanks for posting this, I had a similar reaction to Au$tin's statement. determining if one hit is "bigger" than another can be tricky - does "bigger" mean higher chart peak? higher sales? more longevity? LS certainly beats out IKYWT in the longevity and sales department (though IKYWT may catch up eventually).

this is subjective, but I think you could argue that LS was the song that really launched Taylor to "superstardom status".  she had a couple Country and Pop crossover hits from her debut with "Teardrops..." and "Our Song", but I believe "Love Story" was her first single to really smash on both formats, as well as her first international hit.

of course, then there's the "well, everyone I know knows of Song X, but none of them know of Song Y" argument...

[Rocky]

Jun 26, 2013 15:12:36 GMT -5 RadioBeatz said:

What is "Come & Get It"'s peak, #5 too?

Damn! "We Can't Stop" is huge on streaming, it dethroned "Gangnam Style"? :o

I lost count on how many top 10 hits Bruno Mars have, this man is truly a hit-maker! "Treasure" is cool.

He has 11 top ten hits. 7 solo.

"Nothin' On You"
"Billionaire"
"Just The Way You Are"
"Grenade"
"The Lazy Song"
"lighters"
"It Will Rain"
"Young, Wild and Free"
"Locked Out Of Heaven"
"When I Was Your Man"
"Treasure"

[surreallife]

Jun 26, 2013 8:29:38 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jun 26, 2013 6:51:09 GMT -5 surreallife said:

72,278 is not the normal # of points for a #1 song, TS was an exception, thus the 18 weeks which equates to 52,000 per week.     For example, the current #1 song is less than 57,000 despite selling over 370,000 copies.  TS and HS are the only #1 songs this year to reach over 60,000 chart points a week for several weeks running.

But we're comparing it against "Thrift Shop," not your average run of the mill #1 song. Those are the only two songs we are talking about, thus, HS is being compared figuratively to TS. If we were comparing both songs to the average, both would have longer lives at number one. You can't just say "Oh, HS got 18 weeks at number, but TS doesn't gain anything by being huge either," because that's not how it works. You can't add on to one and not the other. If you're going to extend HS to 18 weeks at number one, you must also extend TS to a much longer time spent at number one AND number two from when it was behind TS, because that's only fair as all the weeks HS was huge, TS was huge as well. It's easier just to equate HS's numbers to match TS's numbers, thus giving us 13 weeks for HS comparatively to TS. Not your average #1 song. Thrift. Shop. ONLY


Yeah I got what the analysis was trying to show, and I agree with the end result, I was reacting to the wording "about the normal of points for a #1 week" which gives me a very different impression then what was intended.  I personally think the difference between the 2 songs at year-end will be much closer then what the analysis purports, but we will never know since BB does not communicate such information.

[Rocky]

Jun 26, 2013 15:39:10 GMT -5 crystalphnx said:

thanks for posting this, I had a similar reaction to Au$tin's statement. determining if one hit is "bigger" than another can be tricky - does "bigger" mean higher chart peak? higher sales? more longevity? LS certainly beats out IKYWT in the longevity and sales department (though IKYWT may catch up eventually).

this is subjective, but I think you could argue that LS was the song that really launched Taylor to "superstardom status".  she had a couple Country and Pop crossover hits from her debut with "Teardrops..." and "Our Song", but I believe "Love Story" was her first single to really smash on both formats, as well as her first international hit.

of course, then there's the "well, everyone I know knows of Song X, but none of them know of Song Y" argument...

This. "Love Story" was her breakout hit. It did need more time to climb the charts than "You Belong With Me". It's almost like Lady Gaga's case when "Just Dance" was a sleeper hit, then exploded and when "Poker Face" hit it was much bigger WW and in the US, became her signature hit, but needed time to pass her debut. In Taylor's case that didn't happen and won't because more people know "Love Story" or at least "You Belong With Me" didn't totally outshine it.

[Love Plastic Love]

I thought the same about the Love Story comment. It is difficult to judge which song is bigger though as someone else stated.

THIS IS NOT A WAY TO DO THAT, but Christ, my area over-played Love Song so much for so long that I thought they would NEVER move on. Ever. And I still hear it frequently. I am in an area that is country and AC friendly though so it makes sense.

[surreallife]

According to my estimates:

Blurred Lines - 68,280 (increase from 56,840);
Get Lucky - 48,850 (increase from 45,917);
Radioactive - 44,700

I thought that "Get Lucky" would spend several weeks at #2 behind "Blurred Lines" but "Radioactive" continues to surprise and may get to #2 as early as next week.

"Blurred Lines" has a 40% lead on "Get Lucky" which is pretty substantial and likely means an extended stay at the top.

[Au$tin]

Jun 26, 2013 15:25:02 GMT -5 brady47 said:

Jun 26, 2013 14:22:45 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

IKYWT was definitely bigger than "Love Story" here in the US. Hell, "You Belong with Me" was bigger here in the US than "Love Story" was.

Wasn't Love Story her biggest hit in US? I mean, I know it only peaked at #4, but it has sold 5.5 million copies, 34 weeks in the top 20, IKYWT is almost out of the top 50 in its 35th week.

Love Story had some amazing longevity, even more than You Belong With Me which is surprising.

Sales and charts and all that are nice figures, but they don't tell the whole story. "I Knew You Were Trouble." spanned to a much larger audience than any of her prior singles ever have here in the US. It left an impact that none of her singles ever have. "Trouble" somewhat solidified Taylor as a pop staple in the US. "Love Story" was a monster, don't get me wrong, but its longevity benefited greatly from the same reason "Radioactive" and "Cruise" are lasting so long on the chart right now: "Love Story" crossed over to pop long after it was done on country. It peaked on country back in November 2008, whereas it didn't peak on pop until February 2009. Compare that to "You Belong with Me," which peaked on country in August 2009 and on pop one month later in September 2009. So as far as longevity goes, you can't compare that because it's two separate cases. "You Belong with Me" was released a little over a month to pop after it was released to country, whereas "Love Story" was released to pop after it had already peaked on country. That also fuels sales to be higher overall as many country fans who weren't quite decided over whether to buy it or not hear it for a much longer time as it crosses over into pop and it eventually clicked with them long after it originally peaked on country, which is something "You Belong with Me" didn't have and certainly not "I Knew You Were Trouble.," as it was never a country single. In terms of impact, "I Knew You Were Trouble." made a much bigger impression than any other Taylor single in the US. One could argue maybe "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" did better, but I would tend to say "Trouble." was the bigger of the two in the US. Now, outside the US, there's not a doubt in my mind that "Love Story" was much bigger than "You Belong with Me" and probably on par with "I Knew You Were Trouble.," so I could see how outside the US "Love Story" would be considered her biggest hit, but here in the US, "Trouble." and "Belong" were both "bigger" in terms of impact than "Love Story."

"Trouble." spanned to multi-genres as well. People who didn't even care for Taylor Swift hated to admit that they actually enjoyed "I Knew You Were Trouble." here in the states. And this is where recurrency comes into play. Generally, the songs with higher recurrent play are the ones that really made that huge impact that really makes the song memorables and puts the song down into history. It's too soon to tell for "Trouble.," but I hear "You Belong with Me" much more often than "Love Story." In fact, I can't even tell you the last time I heard "Love Story" on the radio, but I heard "Belong" just a few weeks ago on a hot AC station and a few weeks before that I heard it on country.

[josh]

1. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 190.707 (- 1.560)
2. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Can’t Hold Us f/Ray Dalton: 161.616 (- 2.233)
3. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 145.727 (+ 3.123)
4. PINK – Just Give Me A Reason: 131.454 (- 3.019)
5. DAFT PUNK – Get Lucky: 131.393 (+ 1.984)
6. ICONA POP – I Love It f/Charli XCX: 116.670 (- 2.325)
7. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Radioactive: 107.831 (+ 3.044) ▲
8. SELENA GOMEZ – Come & Get It: 106.331 (+ 0.763) ▼
9. RIHANNA – Stay f/Mikky Ekko: 103.094 (- 1.934) ▼
10. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE – Cruise f/Nelly: 94.923 (+ 0.442)
11. BRUNO MARS – Treasure: 92.552 (+ 1.019)
12. ARIANA GRANDE – The Way f/Mac Miller: 81.612 (- 0.651)
13. BRUNO MARS – When I Was Your Man: 76.272 (- 0.763)
14. J. COLE – Power Trip f/Miguel: 75.202 (- 0.716)
15. FALL OUT BOY – My Songs Know What You Did…: 73.987 (+ 0.161)
16. ZEDD – Clarity f/Foxes: 72.492 (+ 1.504)
17. JASON DERULO – The Other Side: 71.446 (+ 1.155)
18. MAROON 5 – Love Somebody: 67.815 (+ 0.778)
19. MARIAH CAREY – #Beautiful f/Miguel: 66.412 (- 0.311)
20. BRAD PAISLEY – Beat This Summer: 64.180 (- 0.228) ▲

JAKE OWEN – Anywhere With You: 64.074 (- 0.867)
LUKE BRYAN – Crash My Party: 64.072 (- 0.143)
CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING – I Need Your Love: 60.107 (+ 1.781)
THE BAND PERRY – Done: 59.447 (+ 0.183)
PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Gone, Gone, Gone: 53.769 (+ 0.587)
ANNA KENDRICK – Cups (Pitch Perfect’s When…: 51.631 (+ 1.515)
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – Same Love f/Mary Lambert: 49.334 (+ 1.421)
CAPITAL CITIES – Safe And Sound: 42.168 (+ 1.546)
CIARA – Body Party: 41.503 (+ 0.428)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – See You Again: 40.956 (+ 0.065)
RIHANNA – Right Now f/David Guetta: 32.311 (+ 1.136)
KELLY CLARKSON – People Like Us: 30.112 (- 0.293)
BRITNEY SPEARS – Ooh La La: 22.261 (+ 0.867)
KENNY CHESNEY – When I See This Bar: 20.869 (+ 0.308)
MILEY CYRUS – We Can’t Stop: 16.848 (+ 0.734)
AUSTIN MAHONE – What About Love: 16.524 (+ 1.020)
KE$HA – Crazy Kids: 16.083 (+ 0.292)

[Au$tin]

Looks like "Treasure" will be replacing "Stay" in the top ten before too long. 2-3 days.

[crystalphnx]

Jun 26, 2013 16:03:39 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Jun 26, 2013 15:25:02 GMT -5 brady47 said:

Wasn't Love Story her biggest hit in US? I mean, I know it only peaked at #4, but it has sold 5.5 million copies, 34 weeks in the top 20, IKYWT is almost out of the top 50 in its 35th week.

Love Story had some amazing longevity, even more than You Belong With Me which is surprising.

Sales and charts and all that are nice figures, but they don't tell the whole story. "I Knew You Were Trouble." spanned to a much larger audience than any of her prior singles ever have here in the US. It left an impact that none of her singles ever have. "Trouble" somewhat solidified Taylor as a pop staple in the US. "Love Story" was a monster, don't get me wrong, but its longevity benefited greatly from the same reason "Radioactive" and "Cruise" are lasting so long on the chart right now: "Love Story" crossed over to pop long after it was done on country. It peaked on country back in November 2008, whereas it didn't peak on pop until February 2009. Compare that to "You Belong with Me," which peaked on country in August 2009 and on pop one month later in September 2009. So as far as longevity goes, you can't compare that because it's two separate cases. "You Belong with Me" was released a little over a month to pop after it was released to country, whereas "Love Story" was released to pop after it had already peaked on country. That also fuels sales to be higher overall as many country fans who weren't quite decided over whether to buy it or not hear it for a much longer time as it crosses over into pop and it eventually clicked with them long after it originally peaked on country, which is something "You Belong with Me" didn't have and certainly not "I Knew You Were Trouble.," as it was never a country single. In terms of impact, "I Knew You Were Trouble." made a much bigger impression than any other Taylor single in the US. One could argue maybe "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" did better, but I would tend to say "Trouble." was the bigger of the two in the US. Now, outside the US, there's not a doubt in my mind that "Love Story" was much bigger than "You Belong with Me" and probably on par with "I Knew You Were Trouble.," so I could see how outside the US "Love Story" would be considered her biggest hit, but here in the US, "Trouble." and "Belong" were both "bigger" in terms of impact than "Love Story."

"Trouble." spanned to multi-genres as well. People who didn't even care for Taylor Swift hated to admit that they actually enjoyed "I Knew You Were Trouble." here in the states. And this is where recurrency comes into play. Generally, the songs with higher recurrent play are the ones that really made that huge impact that really makes the song memorables and puts the song down into history. It's too soon to tell for "Trouble.," but I hear "You Belong with Me" much more often than "Love Story." In fact, I can't even tell you the last time I heard "Love Story" on the radio, but I heard "Belong" just a few weeks ago on a hot AC station and a few weeks before that I heard it on country.

I don't want to turn this into a "What is Taylor's Biggest US Hit?" thread (jk, that's exactly what I want to do), but... ;) 

you make great points about why LS had more Hot 100 longevity than YBWM or IKYWT, so thanks for that info...but then you throw around stuff like "bigger impression", "bigger impact"...what does that actually mean? this may not be true of you, but usually when I see claims like that on forums, it just means "my friends/acquaintances liked it more than her other songs".

how could "Trouble." possibly take credit for making Taylor a "pop staple" when she's been racking up Pop hits for years now, and the Pop single that followed "Trouble." struggled chart-wise? surely "Love Story" is more deserving of that title.

you mention people who previously weren't Taylor fans admitting they liked IKTWY...surely that happened with "Love Story" too? LS wouldn't have been the cross-format smash it was if it didn't attract any new fans. you also mention that IKYWT spanned multiple genres...as did LS: LS was a huge hit on Country, Pop, AC, Adult Pop...IKYWT was huge on Pop, AC, and Adult Pop.  yes, IKYWT had some dub-step, but LS also had popular dance mixes (at least the Digital Dog ones, anyway).

[Au$tin]

Jun 26, 2013 16:27:10 GMT -5 crystalphnx said:

Jun 26, 2013 16:03:39 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sales and charts and all that are nice figures, but they don't tell the whole story. "I Knew You Were Trouble." spanned to a much larger audience than any of her prior singles ever have here in the US. It left an impact that none of her singles ever have. "Trouble" somewhat solidified Taylor as a pop staple in the US. "Love Story" was a monster, don't get me wrong, but its longevity benefited greatly from the same reason "Radioactive" and "Cruise" are lasting so long on the chart right now: "Love Story" crossed over to pop long after it was done on country. It peaked on country back in November 2008, whereas it didn't peak on pop until February 2009. Compare that to "You Belong with Me," which peaked on country in August 2009 and on pop one month later in September 2009. So as far as longevity goes, you can't compare that because it's two separate cases. "You Belong with Me" was released a little over a month to pop after it was released to country, whereas "Love Story" was released to pop after it had already peaked on country. That also fuels sales to be higher overall as many country fans who weren't quite decided over whether to buy it or not hear it for a much longer time as it crosses over into pop and it eventually clicked with them long after it originally peaked on country, which is something "You Belong with Me" didn't have and certainly not "I Knew You Were Trouble.," as it was never a country single. In terms of impact, "I Knew You Were Trouble." made a much bigger impression than any other Taylor single in the US. One could argue maybe "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" did better, but I would tend to say "Trouble." was the bigger of the two in the US. Now, outside the US, there's not a doubt in my mind that "Love Story" was much bigger than "You Belong with Me" and probably on par with "I Knew You Were Trouble.," so I could see how outside the US "Love Story" would be considered her biggest hit, but here in the US, "Trouble." and "Belong" were both "bigger" in terms of impact than "Love Story."

"Trouble." spanned to multi-genres as well. People who didn't even care for Taylor Swift hated to admit that they actually enjoyed "I Knew You Were Trouble." here in the states. And this is where recurrency comes into play. Generally, the songs with higher recurrent play are the ones that really made that huge impact that really makes the song memorables and puts the song down into history. It's too soon to tell for "Trouble.," but I hear "You Belong with Me" much more often than "Love Story." In fact, I can't even tell you the last time I heard "Love Story" on the radio, but I heard "Belong" just a few weeks ago on a hot AC station and a few weeks before that I heard it on country.

I don't want to turn this into a "What is Taylor's Biggest US Hit?" thread (jk, that's exactly what I want to do), but... ;) 

you make great points about why LS had more Hot 100 longevity than YBWM or IKYWT, so thanks for that info...but then you throw around stuff like "bigger impression", "bigger impact"...what does that actually mean? this may not be true of you, but usually when I see claims like that on forums, it just means "my friends/acquaintances liked it more than her other songs".

how could "Trouble." possibly take credit for making Taylor a "pop staple" when she's been racking up Pop hits for years now, and the Pop single that followed "Trouble." struggled chart-wise? surely "Love Story" is more deserving of that title.

you mention people who previously weren't Taylor fans admitting they liked IKTWY...surely that happened with "Love Story" too? LS wouldn't have been the cross-format smash it was if it didn't attract any new fans. you also mention that IKYWT spanned multiple genres...as did LS: LS was a huge hit on Country, Pop, AC, Adult Pop...IKYWT was huge on Pop, AC, and Adult Pop.  yes, IKYWT had some dub-step, but LS also had popular dance mixes (at least the Digital Dog ones, anyway).

"Bigger impact" or "impression" as how it's generally perceived by the public in later times and what it did for the aritst. "Love Story" was her first pop #1 and widened the door for her onto the format ("Teardrops" opened it), but I feel like it's not remembered as well as later hits. Let me clarify, though, that I'm talking about the US only. And this may even only apply to the midwest, where Taylor is much more prominent, than on the coasts. "Trouble" and "Belong" both are much more prominent here than "Love Story" and were even bigger hits, I feel, in terms of their peak and longevity afterwards.

As far as "Trouble." turning Taylor into a pop staple, I feel like she was never one beforehand. Rather, she was just a country artist that enjoyed pop success ocassionally. Before the Red era, her pop hits were: "Teardrops on My Guitar" at #8, "Love Story" at one week at #1, "You Belong with Me" at one week at #1 (and multiple weeks at #2 behind "I Gotta Feeling"), "Mine" which peaked right outside the top ten, "Back to December" which did the same, and finally the Red tracks. (I left out "Fifteen" even though it peaked similarly to "Mine" and "Back to December," but I think it should be obvious why I left it out, lol.) "Trouble" was her first single to spend multiple, very strong weeks at number one. It, in fact, holds the record for highest peak ever on pop radio. (Almost broken by "Can't Hold Us," but luckily it wasn't.) "22" hit a huge snag mainly because it got caught up in the huge shift in sound on pop radio and it fell into that very "generic" side of pop a la "C'mon." I feel like whatever they decide to release next will do much better.

As far as the last paragraph goes, there's a huge difference between those two situations. "Love Story" brought Taylor to people who had never heard of her before. "Trouble." brought her to people who didn't like her before. "Love Story" brought new fans easily, while "Trouble." scrounged up the people who already knew her and swept them off into Slaylorland. :kii:

[crystalphnx]

Jun 26, 2013 16:44:15 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

"Bigger impact" or "impression" as how it's generally perceived by the public in later times and what it did for the aritst. "Love Story" was her first pop #1 and widened the door for her onto the format ("Teardrops" opened it), but I feel like it's not remembered as well as later hits. Let me clarify, though, that I'm talking about the US only. And this may even only apply to the midwest, where Taylor is much more prominent, than on the coasts. "Trouble" and "Belong" both are much more prominent here than "Love Story" and were even bigger hits, I feel, in terms of their peak and longevity afterwards.

this definitely isn't specific to you, but I have a slight pet peeve when people speak on behalf of "the public"/"general public". your state alone has over 6 million people, there's just no way for you (or anyone) to know how even 10% of those people "perceive" or how well they "remember" LS, YBWM, or IKYWT.

but if we look at recurrent airplay, which you'd previously mentioned, that provides at least one nice measurable indicator of songs' popularity. I'm not sure if anyone has access to those figures, but it would be interesting to see how much LS and YBWM get played today in the US.

granted, there's really no way to actually definitively resolve the "which song is bigger" argument, and I think we're both motivated by our personal experiences with these songs. at the end of the day, we both love TayTay, and that's all that really matters. <3

[Wrecking Ball]

Jun 26, 2013 15:12:36 GMT -5 RadioBeatz said:

What is "Come & Get It"'s peak, #5 too?

Damn! "We Can't Stop" is huge on streaming, it dethroned "Gangnam Style"? :o

I lost count on how many top 10 hits Bruno Mars have, this man is truly a hit-maker! "Treasure" is cool.

Come and Get It peaked at number 6 I believe

[brady47]

So many good points about Taylor's biggest hit.

In my opinion, I think Love Story's sales helps its status as her biggest hit, it leads You Belong With Me and I Knew You Were Trouble by over a million digital sales, and IKYWT is selling about 30k a week.

Love Story never felt like a big hit to me, IKYWT and YBWM seemed like the hits people were talking about, and even WANEGBT

[imbondz]

I Knew You Were Trouble would have gone to #1 on pretty much every other Billboard chart methodology prior to the streaming changes. It sold almost 600,000 copies one week and was not #1. It is a bigger hit in the US than LoveStory in my opinion. I barely remember LoveStory, even tho I think it's a great song.

I also think IKYWT got help when that girl performed it on The Voice, I know people who don't listen to TS that like that song.

[chartfreak]

Thought there would be articles by now.

[Au$tin]

Jun 26, 2013 21:44:50 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

Thought there would be articles by now.

They're on page 2.

pulsemusic.proboards.com/post/4396210/thread
pulsemusic.proboards.com/post/4396480/thread

[josh]

Just got drowned out by the huge, random Taylor conversation lol

[HolidayGuy]

"Love Story" was a big hit at country and pop, whereas IKYWT was just pop.

music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-june-23-2013-songs-miley-comeback-202517109.html

Week Ending June 23, 2013. Songs: Miley’s Comeback Hit
By Paul Grein | Chart Watch – Wed. June 26. 2013

Miley Cyrus’ comeback hit “We Can’t Stop” vaults from #27 to #5 in its third week on the Hot 100, following the video’s premiere on June 19. It’s already Cyrus’ third biggest hit, trailing only her 2009 hits “Party In The U.S.A.” (#2) and “The Climb” (#4). Is it appropriate to use the term “comeback hit” when an artist is just 20? In this case, I think so. I don’t think too many people thought Cyrus would have another hit of this magnitude. It underscores how vital it is for artists to believe in themselves in the inevitable down years when the industry thinks they’ve run their course.

This is Cyrus’ first Hot 100 hit as a lead artist since “Can’t Be Tamed,” which reached #8 in June 2010. That song was an attempt at an image change. It didn’t really work. Maybe it was too soon. Artists have to lay low for awhile before they can come back.

As you probably know by now, “We Can’t Stop” set a new record for the most times a video was viewed on VEVO in one day, edging out “Beauty And A Beat” by Justin Bieber featuring Nicki Minaj. Cyrus’ video was viewed 10.7 million times the day following its premiere, beating Bieber's record of 10.6 million.

Cyrus is one of two second-generation stars with hits in this week’s top 10. Cyrus is the daughter of Billy Ray Cyrus, whose “Achy Breaky Heart” reached #4 in July 1992. Robin Thicke is the son of Gloria Loring, whose “Friends And Lovers” (a collabo with Carl Anderson) reached #2 in September 1986.

Thicke’s “Blurred Lines” (featuring T.I. and Pharrell) holds at #1 for the third week. It holds at #1 on Hot Digital Songs for the fourth week (424K). That’s the biggest one-week sales tally for any song since the week ending Dec. 30 (when sales traditionally swell). That week, Taylor Swift’s “I Knew You Were Trouble.” sold 582K copies and Bruno Mars’ “Locked Out Of Heaven” sold 497K copies. “Blurred Lines” is also #1 for the third week on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and for the fourth week on The Official U.K. Singles chart.

“Get Lucky” by Daft Punk featuring Pharrell Williams holds at #2 for the second week. It’s #1 on Dance/Electronic Songs for the sixth week.

Two of the biggest sleeper hits of recent years, Imagine Dragons’ “Radioactive” and “Cruise” by Florida Georgia Line featuring Nelly, both reach new peaks this week. “Radioactive” jumps from #4 to #3 in its 43rd week. “Cruise” jumps from #6 to #4 in its 38th week. Both songs are now mainstream pop and adult smashes, having started out at rock and country radio, respectively. “Radioactive” tops Hot Rock Songs for the 14th week. “Cruise” tops Hot Country Songs for the 17th week.

Both songs posted their second-greatest weekly sales tallies to date. “Cruise” is in its third week at #2 on Hot Digital Songs.

“Radioactive” has sold 3,598,000 copies. It’s #19 on Nielsen SoundScan’s running list of the best-selling rock songs in digital history. “Cruise” has sold 4,544,000 copies. It’s #4 on the site’s running list of the best-selling country songs in digital history.

“Cruise” is the first song to spend 17 or more weeks at #1 on Hot Country Songs since Leroy Van Dyke’s “Walk On By” spent 19 weeks on top in 1961-1962. (That’s not the subsequent Burt Bacharach/Hal David song.). It’s the first song by an ongoing duo to log 17 weeks on top since “Slipping Around” by Margaret Whiting & Jimmy Wakely in 1949-1950.

“Can’t Hold Us” by Macklemore & Ryan Lewis featuring Ray Dalton drops from #3 to #6. The song tops the 3 million mark this week. It’s the duo’s second 3 million-seller. Only one other duo, LMFAO, has had two 3-million-sellers.

Moreover, “Can’t Hold Us” is the 200th song to sell 3 million copies in the digital era. The first was “Crank That (Soulja Boy)” by Soulja Boy Tell Em, which reached the 3 million mark in January 2008. (That was just a few months after I started writing Chart Watch, but I won’t take all the credit.)

Who has had the most 3-million digital sellers? Rihanna leads with 11, followed by Bruno Mars, Fergie and will.i.am, with nine each, and Lil Wayne, Katy Perry and Kanye West, with eight each. (The totals for Fergie and will.i.am include six Black Eyed Peas hits.)

Bruno Mars’ “Treasure” jumps from #11 to #8 following his performance of the upbeat confection on The Voice. It’s his 11th top 10 hit in just 3-1/2 years. It’s his third top 10 hit from his sophomore album, Unorthodox Jukebox, which matches the number he pulled from his debut album, Doo-Wops & Hooligans. Mars also had a top 10 hit from The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Part 1, and was featured on top 10 hits by B.o.B, Travie McCoy, Bad Meets Evil and Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa.

You don’t hit as big as Mars has without filling a void. Mars provides heart and humanity in an era dominated by harder-edged hits. Mars has appeared on the covers of Rolling Stone and Entertainment Weekly this year. (In fact, he’s the only music artist to make the cover of EW so far in 2013.)

Here's the low-down on this week's top 10 songs.

The Top Five: “Blurred Lines” by Robin Thicke featuring T.I. and Pharrell holds at #1 for the third week in its 10th week on the chart. This is its fourth week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #1 (424K)…“Get Lucky” by Daft Punk featuring Pharrell Williams holds at #2 for the second week in its 10th week on the chart. This is its sixth week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #4 (205K)… Imagine Dragons’ “Radioactive” jumps from #4 to #3 in its 43rd week on the chart. This is its 10th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #3 (231K)…“Cruise” by Florida Georgia Line featuring Nelly jumps from #6 to #4 in its 38th week on the chart. This is its ninth week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #2 (244K)… Miley Cyrus’ “We Can’t Stop” vaults from #27 to #5 in third in its third week on the chart. It’s Cyrus’ seventh top 10 hit. Digital sales rank: #6 (161K).

The Second Five: “Can’t Hold Us” by Macklemore & Ryan Lewis featuring Ray Dalton drops from #3 to #6 in its 20th week on the chart. This is its 12th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #7 (151K)… Justin Timberlake’s “Mirrors” drops from #5 to #7 in its 19th week on the chart. This is its 11th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #15 (101K)…Bruno Mars’ “Treasure” jumps from #11 to #8 in its sixth week on the chart. This is his 11th top 10 hit. Digital sales rank: #5 (185K)…Selena Gomez’s “Come & Get It” dips from #8 to #9 in its 11th week on the chart. This is its seventh week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #10 (113K)…“Just Give Me A Reason” by P!nk featuring Nate Ruess drops from #7 to #10 in its 19th week on the chart. This is its 15th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #14 (102K).

Two songs drop out of the top 10 this week. “The Way” by Ariana Grande featuring Mac Miller drops from #9 to #11. “I Love It” by Icona Pop featuring Charli XCX drops from #10 to #12.

Fall Out Boy’s “My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark” holds at #13 for the second week in its 20th week. Digital sales rank: #8 (115K)… “Clarity” by Zedd featuring Foxes holds at #14 for the second week in its 14th week…“Boys ’Round Here” by Blake Shelton featuring Pistol Annies & Friends drops from #12 to #15 in its 13th week. Digital sales rank: #9 (115K).

Hunter Hayes lands his second top 20 hit as “I Want Crazy” vaults from #31 to #19 in its 11th week. Hayes’ breakthrough hit, “Wanted,” peaked at #16… “I Need Your Love” by Calvin Harris featuring Ellie Goulding jumps from #30 to #24 in its 10th week.

“Same Love” by Macklemore & Ryan Lewis featuring Mary Lambert jumps from #33 to #28 in its 15th week—on the very day the Supreme Court released two historic decisions that advanced gay rights. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis have two other songs in this week’s top 30. “Can’t Hold Us” (featuring Ray Dalton) drops from #3 to #6. “Thrift Shop” (featuring Wanz) drops from #19 to #21.

OneRepublic’s “Counting Stars” is the week’s top new entry at #32. The group performed the song on the finale of The Voice. It’s vying to become the group’s third top 10 hit. Timbaland’s “Apologize” hit #2 in November 2007. “Good Life” hit #9 in July 2011. “Counting Stars” is from the group’s third studio album, Native, which debuted and peaked at #4 in March.

Phillip Phillips lands his second top 40 hit as “Gone, Gone, Gone” jumps from #43 to #36 in its 16th week. “Home” peaked at #6, en route to becoming the best-selling song by an American Idol contestant in the show’s history…“No New Friends” by DJ Khaled featuring Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne jumps from #45 to #37 in its ninth week…Capital Cities’ “Safe And Sound” jumps from #56 to #43 in its eighth week.

Three songs from Kanye West’s new album Yeezus enter the chart. “New Slaves” is the week’s second highest new entry at #56. “Black Skinhead” is the week’s third highest new entry at #69. “Blood On The Leaves” debuts at #91. Yeezus enters The Billboard 200 this week with first-week sales of 327K. It’s West’s first album to debut with first-week sales below 400K.

Tyler Farr’s “Redneck Crazy” jumps from #77 to #63 in its fourth week…“Crooked Smile” by J. Cole featuring TLC debuts at #74. This marks TLC’s first chart appearance since 2003. The famed trio had nine top 10 hits from 1992 to 1999. The song is from J. Cole’s sophomore album, Born Sinner, which enters The Billboard 200 at #2 this week with sales of 297K (just 30K behind West).

Danielle Bradbery’s version of Sara Evans’ “Born To Fly” debuts at #75. Bradbery’s version of Pam Tillis’ “Maybe It Was Memphis” re-enters the chart at #93. Bradbery was the Season 4 winner on The Voice. Several other songs by Voice contestants debut: Runner-up Michelle Chamuel’s version of Annie Lennox’s “Why” debuts at #92, a version of U2’s “One” by Usher and Chamuel debuts at #98 and third-place finishers The Swon Brothers’ version of Eagles’ “I Can’t Tell You Why” debuts at #99.

Florida Georgia Line’s new “Round Here” jumps from #89 to #76 in its second week.

John Mayer’s “Paper Doll” debuts at #77. It’s from Mayer’s sixth studio album, Paradise Valley, which is due Aug. 13. The song is purportedly about Mayer’s one-time flame, Taylor Swift. (Turnabout is fair play: Taylor included “Dear John” on her Speak Now album in 2010.) Mayer’s song shares a title with one of the biggest hits of the 1940s. The Mills Brothers’ “Paper Doll” logged 12 weeks at #1 in 1943.

Britney Spears’ “Ooh La La” debuts at #85. It’s from Smurfs 2. It’s vying to become Spears’ 13th top 10 hit as a lead or co-lead artist. Spears has piled up all but five of those hits in the last five years, an impressive showing for a veteran artist.

“Right Now” by Rihanna featuring David Guetta debuts at #90. It’s the fourth single from Unapologetic. (Three other songs from the album have also hit the chart.)…French Montana’s “Ain’t Worried About Nothin” debuts at #97. It’s from his debut album, Excuse My French, which debuted and peaked at #4 on The Billboard 200 last month…Sara Bareilles’ “Brave” re-enters the chart at #100. The song has reached #61.

Coldplay’s 2008 smash “Viva La Vida” tops the 6 million mark in digital sales this week. It’s the 21st song to reach that plateau. The superb song hit #1 in June 2008 and won a Grammy as Song of the Year. (It shoulda won Record of the Year, too.)

To My Readers: Cher’s “Woman’s World” didn’t make it this week. It sold 26K digital copies to enter Hot Digital Songs at #79. I thought that might be enough to do it. Alas, no.

[SPRΞΞ]

That means Mariah dropped this week.

[Enigma.]

"To My Readers: Cher’s “Woman’s World” didn’t make it this week. It sold 26K digital copies to enter Hot Digital Songs at #79. I thought that might be enough to do it. Alas, no."

To my readers = "Hi a fan here who lives in his own world of Cher"

(I don't think people really expected it to chart)

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This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak
1 1 1 10 Blurred Lines, Robin Thicke Featuring T.I. + Pharrell 1
2 2 3 10 Get Lucky, Daft Punk Featuring Pharrell Williams 2
3 4 6 43 Radioactive, Imagine Dragons 3
4 6 5 38 Cruise, Florida Georgia Line Featuring Nelly 4
5 27 11 3 We Can't Stop, Miley Cyrus 5
6 3 2 20 Can't Hold Us, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Ray Dalton 1
7 5 4 19 Mirrors, Justin Timberlake 2
8 11 16 6 Treasure, Bruno Mars 8
9 8 8 11 Come & Get It, Selena Gomez 6
10 7 7 19 Just Give Me A Reason, P!nk Featuring Nate Ruess 1
11 9 9 13 The Way, Ariana Grande Featuring Mac Miller 9
12 10 10 21 I Love It, Icona Pop Featuring Charli XCX 7
13 13 19 20 My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up), Fall Out Boy 13
14 14 24 14 Clarity, Zedd Featuring Foxes 14
15 12 13 13 Boys 'Round Here, Blake Shelton Featuring Pistol Annies & Friends 12
16 15 15 7 #Beautiful, Mariah Carey Featuring Miguel 15
17 18 22 26 Cups (Pitch Perfect's When I'm Gone), Anna Kendrick 17
18 16 12 20 Stay, Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko 3
19 31 36 11 I Want Crazy, Hunter Hayes 19
20 17 14 27 When I Was Your Man, Bruno Mars 1
21 19 17 38 Thrift Shop, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz 1
22 24 35 5 Love Somebody, Maroon 5 22
23 21 23 19 Power Trip, J. Cole Featuring Miguel 20
24 30 38 10 I Need Your Love, Calvin Harris Featuring Ellie Goulding 24
25 25 29 10 The Other Side, Jason Derulo 25
26 22 18 20 Wagon Wheel, Darius Rucker 15
27 23 21 19 Bad, Wale Featuring Tiara Thomas Or Rihanna 21
28 33 51 15 Same Love, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Mary Lambert 28
29 20 34 11 Here's To Never Growing Up, Avril Lavigne 20
30 28 27 11 Crash My Party, Luke Bryan 18
31 34 30 22 Feel This Moment, Pitbull Featuring Christina Aguilera 8
32 0 Hot Shot Debut 1 Counting Stars, OneRepublic 32
33 36 45 11 U.O.E.N.O., Rocko Featuring Future & Rick Ross 33
34 26 20 17 Heart Attack, Demi Lovato 10
35 29 25 17 Highway Don't Care, Tim McGraw With Taylor Swift 22
36 43 50 16 Gone, Gone, Gone, Phillip Phillips 36
37 45 57 9 No New Friends (SFTB Remix), DJ Khaled Featuring Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne 37
38 40 46 9 Body Party, Ciara 35
39 41 47 42 Sail, AWOLNATION 30
40 38 43 14 Rich As F**k, Lil Wayne Featuring 2 Chainz 38
41 32 26 17 22, Taylor Swift 20
42 42 41 18 Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe, Kendrick Lamar 32
43 56 65 8 Safe And Sound, Capital Cities 43
44 48 59 7 Runnin' Outta Moonlight, Randy Houser 44
45 35 31 20 Started From The Bottom, Drake 6
46 39 44 55 Ho Hey, The Lumineers 3
47 46 52 14 Anywhere With You, Jake Owen 46
48 44 39 24 Suit & Tie, Justin Timberlake Featuring Jay Z 3
49 49 42 36 I Knew You Were Trouble., Taylor Swift 2
50 52 58 15 Beat This Summer, Brad Paisley 50
51 37 32 18 Next To Me, Emeli Sande 25
52 51 62 8 See You Again, Carrie Underwood 51
53 50 54 13 Lego House, Ed Sheeran 42
54 58 76 5 Don't Ya, Brett Eldredge 54
55 53 55 15 DONE., The Band Perry 46
56 0 New 1 New Slaves, Kanye West 56
57 59 68 7 Tapout, Rich Gang Featuring Lil Wayne, Birdman, Future, Mack Maine, Nicki Minaj 57
58 64 71 9 Beat It, Sean Kingston Featuring Chris Brown & Wiz Khalifa 58
59 62 61 4 Crazy Kids, Ke$ha Featuring will.i.am Or Juicy J 59
60 61 66 14 Hey Pretty Girl, Kip Moore 60
61 54 33 14 #thatPOWER, will.i.am Featuring Justin Bieber 17
62 57 48 12 Fine China, Chris Brown 31
63 77 87 4 Redneck Crazy, Tyler Farr 63
64 60 63 19 Harlem Shake, Baauer 1
65 70 80 9 Jump Right In, Zac Brown Band 65
66 71 81 7 All Over The Road, Easton Corbin 66
67 67 74 14 Demons, Imagine Dragons 64
68 68 79 5 Little Bit Of Everything, Keith Urban 68
69 0 New 1 Black Skinhead, Kanye West 69
70 65 69 19 We Still In This B****, B.o.B Featuring T.I. & Juicy J 65
71 55 28 5 We Own It (Fast & Furious), 2 Chainz & Wiz Khalifa 16
72 63 56 19 Bugatti, Ace Hood Featuring Future & Rick Ross 33
73 73 77 6 People Like Us, Kelly Clarkson 73
74 0 New 1 Crooked Smile, J. Cole Featuring TLC 74
75 0 New 1 Born To Fly, Danielle Bradbery 75
76 89 – 2 Round Here, Florida Georgia Line 76
77 0 New 1 Paper Doll, John Mayer 77
78 66 – 2 Danny's Song, The Swon Brothers 66
79 75 73 11 Gentleman, PSY 5
80 76 75 20 Downtown, Lady Antebellum 29
81 80 83 17 More Than Miles, Brantley Gilbert 79
82 72 72 19 Alive, Krewella 32
83 85 90 5 Hey Girl, Billy Currington 75
84 81 78 12 High School, Nicki Minaj Featuring Lil Wayne 64
85 0 New 1 Ooh La La, Britney Spears 85
86 69 64 9 Young And Beautiful, Lana Del Rey 22
87 86 86 10 How Many Drinks?, Miguel 82
88 74 – 2 What About Love, Austin Mahone 74
89 87 89 4 Point At You, Justin Moore 87
90 0 New 1 Right Now, Rihanna Featuring David Guetta 90
91 0 New 1 Blood On The Leaves, Kanye West 91
92 0 New 1 Why, Michelle Chamuel 92
93 0 Re-Entry 2 Maybe It Was Memphis, Danielle Bradbery 92
94 96 – 2 It Goes Like This, Thomas Rhett 94
95 97 – 2 Bubble Butt, Major Lazer Featuring Bruno Mars, Tyga & Mystic 95
96 83 84 15 Wild For The Night, A$AP Rocky Featuring Skrillex 80
97 0 New 1 Ain't Worried About Nothin, French Montana 97
98 0 New 1 One, Usher & Michelle Chamuel 98
99 0 New 1 I Can't Tell You Why, The Swon Brothers 99
100 0 Re-Entry 2 Brave, Sara Bareilles 61

[phile]

Doesn't the Year-End Hot 100 Chart also use a reverse chart point system (#1 song gets 100 points, #2 gets 99 points and the #100 song gets 1 point) for the songs' Hot 100 respective chart runs?
So, regardless of how well a song does in one, two, all or a combination of 3 major Hot 100 components (Airplay, Sales and Streaming), that was already factored in the computation and determination of the weekly Hot 100 Chart placement and it no longer has the "extra" bearing on the Year-End Hot 100 Chart, right?

[HolidayGuy]

The Dance/Electronic Songs chart hasn't been around for all that long. The longest run on Dance/Club Play is six or seven weeks, I think?

"Woman's World" enters Dance/Electronic Songs at No. 16.