drock89
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Post by drock89 on Mar 17, 2005 15:40:49 GMT -5
everyone should be alowed to vote, and back to the subject, Don't.... Great song.. And one that large markets won't play. This single is wrapping up..if the large stations won't play it, it won't get higher than where its at. :'(
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Post by reidster on Mar 17, 2005 16:37:53 GMT -5
it seems that all shania's singles have no problem at getting into the top 30.. but after that.. they dont seem to do well... country radio for yeah...
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Post by automyskin89 on Mar 17, 2005 16:41:55 GMT -5
"Don't!" is pop, not so much country, release it to pop..
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Post by reidster on Mar 17, 2005 16:46:58 GMT -5
i think it is more country than previous releases that have made it higher than don't [ie. Man! I Feel Like A Woman, Your Still The One, That Don't Impress Me Much, From this moment on, Up!.... and the list goes on] .. i think Don't should have , realistically speaking, peaked at 7...
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Post by pashaniafan on Mar 17, 2005 17:30:42 GMT -5
Don't is due too be released to the AC markets out there so this should help the song move. I know its sort of stuck at #9 on GAC's countdown but it jumped three positions on cmt's countdown from last week. It is now at #15 and that is a good sign that it did that big of a jump. Also Don't is a country song and From This Moment On and You're Still The One are pure country. There is no way you can call From This Moment On anything but country. Anyway like I said Don't is gonna do some more moving I beleive. :)
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 17, 2005 18:03:04 GMT -5
i think it is more country than previous releases that have made it higher than don't [ie. Man! I Feel Like A Woman, Your Still The One, That Don't Impress Me Much, From this moment on, Up!.... and the list goes on] .. i think Don't should have , realistically speaking, peaked at 7... Don't sounds like every other Shania Twain song: Pure derivative AC drivel, stripped of any soul or emotion, homogeneous pap designed to reach every possible demo, but ends up reaching none. Today the song lost its bullet on Mediabase and it decreased Audience Impressions and Spins, and it dropped a notch on the chart. Good, radio audiences are finally catching up to what a fake this woman is. No wonder her last six singles all underperformed.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 17, 2005 18:04:49 GMT -5
What is really pathetic is that Gretchen Wilson's new song "homewrecker" has been out for like....a week and it is already 1 spot behind Don't! on mediabase! Just goes to show that once you become an "industry favourite" then it doesn't matter who you are or how "Country" your songs are, country radio will eat up everything you release right from the get go! (Tim Mcgraw is another a perfect example here!) GW's new song is already receiving bullets of 500+ spins and high audience impressions from being played by large markets right away......even when Don't! was first released the highest bullet it received was something around 200 and it was NOT played by large markets whatsoever, and STILL isn't! Just goes to show how biased country radio is and how much BS was written into that email from KZLA!! Because Homewrecker is a decent country song as opposed to a mediocre warmed-over AC ballad, like DON'T...
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Post by pashaniafan on Mar 17, 2005 18:15:31 GMT -5
Well I see that "it" posts here as well as on cmts message board now I know "it" has no life. Don't has all the feeling of emotion in it that you can find in all country songs. Shania puts the feelings of that song through superbly. You can feel the pain of how the woman wants too not fight and not argue and wants too know what to do to keep the relationship going.
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Post by reidster on Mar 17, 2005 18:57:50 GMT -5
Don't sounds like every other Shania Twain song: Pure derivative AC drivel, stripped of any soul or emotion, homogeneous pap designed to reach every possible demo, but ends up reaching none. Today the song lost its bullet on Mediabase and it decreased Audience Impressions and Spins, and it dropped a notch on the chart. Good, radio audiences are finally catching up to what a fake this woman is. No wonder her last six singles all underperformed. underperformed? Party for Two was a top 10 smash.. As was She's not just a pretty face... Forever and for always hit number 4....underperformed? If you consider anything that doesn't hit 1 underperforming, then sure...
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Post by Love4Shania on Mar 17, 2005 19:00:01 GMT -5
[Insert mindless drivel here] ...my god....found a new board to troll have we? Anything you say is meaningless because you are a complete idiot, please just go away and leave us humans in peace.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 17, 2005 19:06:05 GMT -5
...my god....found a new board to troll have we? Anything you say is meaningless because you are a complete idiot, please just go away and leave us humans in peace. Hello Kevy! Yes, her last six singles underperformed. After 5 years and an album that sold close to 30 million copies worldwide, and had three Crossover pop hits, her highly anticipated UP sold over 800,000 in its first week. Not bad, eh? And the first highly anticipated single debuted at 34, was it, on the country charts? Than peaked at # 7? That's UNDERperforming, for a superstar that had built up such anticipation. Then the title cut DIDN'T EVEN REACH THE COUNTRY TOP TEN, then Forever And For Always only peaked at # 4 in spite of lots of airplay on pop radio, then Pretty Face peaks at # 9 and then It Only Hurts can't even crack the top 15? That my friend is underperforming, if you go by Shania's own standards of past chart dominance. And Kevy, I will report you for the "idiot" word...
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Post by Love4Shania on Mar 17, 2005 19:31:24 GMT -5
Hello Kevy! Yes, her last six singles underperformed. After 5 years and an album that sold close to 30 million copies worldwide, and had three Crossover pop hits, her highly anticipated UP sold over 800,000 in its first week. Not bad, eh? And the first highly anticipated single debuted at 34, was it, on the country charts? Than peaked at # 7? That's UNDERperforming, for a superstar that had built up such anticipation. Then the title cut DIDN'T EVEN REACH THE COUNTRY TOP TEN, then Forever And For Always only peaked at # 4 in spite of lots of airplay on pop radio, then Pretty Face peaks at # 9 and then It Only Hurts can't even crack the top 15? That my friend is underperforming, if you go by Shania's own standards of past chart dominance. And Kevy, I will report you for the "idot" word... Who cares? Singles are only realeased to support the album, other then that they are meaningless and Up! sold pretty damn well on it's own. I swear you have some mental problems...is bashing Shania your religion or something? It is all you ever do down at the CMT board, you seriously need to grow up and get over yourself.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 17, 2005 20:38:02 GMT -5
And one that large markets won't play. This single is wrapping up..if the large stations won't play it, it won't get higher than where its at. :'( I agree. But it's because the quality of the song is so mediocre, IMO...
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Post by drock89 on Mar 17, 2005 21:58:26 GMT -5
And I should report you LangeNYC. Maybe the mods here should contact CMT and see how many times you have been banned at their site. Let's argue so you can get banned here too.
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Post by pashaniafan on Mar 18, 2005 2:51:35 GMT -5
shaniagotchagood would you believe "it" is back on cmts site again with a new nic. I am sorry too say but I really don't think cmts moderators know what they are doing when this person can keep coming back. By now I would have had that persons ip address in my hand and would have been calling there provider too let them know what is going on and would have banned the address from getting on the site. Anyway as "it" fails too see is that Shania's albums do wonderful in sales and on the charts she was on the end of the year billboards again in flying colors. Not too mention she was the top country tour according to the billboard charts for 2004. So I think Shania and Mutt know what they are doing and know what Shania's fans want. I don't hear anything wrong with her music every song I have listened too even in the very beginning before Mutt was involved was good. I have her beginnings cd and her self titled cd and I love them as much as all her other cd's and I have recently bought six of her dvd's and each and everyone of them I enjoy and three more will be added to those this coming week. Shania does not have too do anything she is the best out there right now in country music along with Dolly and Reba. I have a whole lot of cd's though that by far outstretch Shania and Dolly and Reba. I love most of country musics stars today. :)
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 18, 2005 8:32:16 GMT -5
Selling millions doesn't equal quality. Look at Jennifer Lopez and Britney, who just like Shania, are million-selling pop "singers" who are also, just like Shania, considered prefabricated studio creations.
As for the single. I'm amazed that DON'T was released to country radio...is Shania so clueless as to the fact that it's a warmed-over AC ballad that has nothing country about it? She should've released Quitter to Country, PF2 to pop and DON't to AC...three terrible songs but at least in the respective genres that fit each.
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Post by automyskin89 on Mar 18, 2005 8:33:24 GMT -5
Selling millions doesn't equal quality. Look at Jennifer Lopez and Britney, who just like Shania, are million-selling pop "singers" who are also, just like Shania, considered prefabricated studio creations. As for the single. I'm amazed that DON'T was released to country radio...is Shania so clueless as to the fact that it's a warmed-over AC ballad that has nothing country about it? She should've released Quitter to Country, PF2 to pop and DON't to AC...three terrible songs but at least in the respective genres that fit each. Shania A Studio Creation
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Post by Love4Shania on Mar 18, 2005 9:12:08 GMT -5
Shania A Studio Creation Ignorance is bliss, eh? If Shania is a studio creation then I guess everyone must be one. Besides I wouldn't take anything this person says seriously, he/she/it is the same sick freak who wished cancer upon Shania and said that she gives oral sex to Eja....needless to say, some people just shouldn't be allowed to use the Internet.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 18, 2005 9:24:44 GMT -5
Ignorance is bliss, eh? If Shania is a studio creation then I guess everyone must be one. Besides I wouldn't take anything this person says seriously, he/she/it is the same sick freak who wished cancer upon Shania and said that she gives oral sex to Eja..... Yuck...do u have to be so nasty when you make up your lies? I mean just because you dislike someone telling the truth about Shania doesn't mean you can make up lies like that, especially being so disgusting and graphic. The mods here should ban you just for that last line in your post...
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Post by reidster on Mar 18, 2005 9:42:28 GMT -5
you are the one that should be banned..... Is Bashing Shania your life? Just because she is successful you hate her... I bet she has sold say more than your favorite artist!
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Post by Love4Shania on Mar 18, 2005 9:53:48 GMT -5
Yuck...do u have to be so nasty when you make up your lies? I mean just because you dislike someone telling the truth about Shania doesn't mean you can make up lies like that, especially being so disgusting and graphic. The mods here should ban you just for that last line in your post... I'm not lying, you did post that sick crap at CMT among other things, you should be banned from existance. Don't try and act innocent, your screen name and posting style completely gives away who you are, you have been banned about 1000 times at CMT using similar and equally retarded screenames for bashing Shania with the same old crap over and over.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 18, 2005 10:03:28 GMT -5
I'm not lying, you did post that sick crap at CMT among other things, you should be banned from existance. Don't try and act innocent, your screen name and posting style completely gives away who you are, you have been banned about 1000 times at CMT using similar and equally retarded screenames for bashing Shania with the same old crap over and over. Kevy, please stop being so angry. As for DON'T...do you guys think it will go top ten? The quality of the song is terrible, and the spins and audience impressions keep decreasing, but who knows? Payola worked wonders for the COO singles...
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Mar 18, 2005 10:59:01 GMT -5
Quit arguing. If you don't agree with someone remain respectful, stop throwing insults around.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 18, 2005 11:01:08 GMT -5
Quit arguing. If you don't agree with someone remain respectful, stop throwing insults around. I agree. Thanks for the reminder. :)
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Post by Spidey on Mar 18, 2005 11:36:07 GMT -5
I browse the CMT boards now and then, and this is 100% true. This FrancineLangeInNY is an anti-Shania troll who has a sick obsession to degrade her every chance he gets.
No post of his or hers should be taken seriously.
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Post by reidster on Mar 18, 2005 15:59:02 GMT -5
"IT" has to sink so low... I say all of his future posts should be ignored..
Lets stay on the subject... Don't...
Now... I don't think this will do any better, unless there is a push from Performances at the CMT/ACM's.... which might? happen? Hasn't been anounced yet.. Unless this songs drops quickly, so that Mercury can release I Ain't No Quitter, and let shania perform it at the CMT/ACM's...
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Post by drock89 on Mar 18, 2005 16:07:22 GMT -5
I want to add this. FAFA, which peaked #4 country, #1 AC was also at #24 in its 10th week. This song isn't over yet...
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 18, 2005 16:15:04 GMT -5
I want to add this. FAFA, which peaked #4 country, #1 AC was also at #24 in its 10th week. This song isn't over yet... However, Forever And For Always had the same arrangement and melody of Donna Lewis I WIll Love You ALways Forever,(even the title sounded similar...for shame,Shania!) and the similarity made the song have a longer shelf-life. DON'T is simply a generic ballad that feels like pure muzak/AC drivel, it has gotten tepid reviews and radio mainstream audiences haven't warmed up to it... Not to mention that Shania's voice, a very weak instrument to begin with, sounds particularly lifeless and dull on this song.
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Post by drock89 on Mar 18, 2005 16:17:52 GMT -5
DON'T is simply a generic ballad that feels like pure muzak/AC drivel, it has gotten tepid reviews and radio mainstream audiences haven't warmed up to it... Can you post some tepid reviews for me please?
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 18, 2005 16:56:55 GMT -5
Can you post some tepid reviews for me please? "DON'T, one of three "new" songs on the album, is more proof of Mrs Lange's status as this generation's premiere purveyor of lifeless AC fodder" "...of the new selections, the ballad, is the one sung with less conviction by Twain, whose voice has never been too convincing an instrument to start with" "...once again, Shania Twain delivers her flimsy musical choices, pre-packaged in hype and overbursting with the musical equivalent of granola: devoid of taste, value or substance...DON'T is particularly grating because of its lyrical grandstanding that can barely disguise what the song is: Recycled Karen Carpenter, minus the late singer's vocal power and charisma..."
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