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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 23, 2005 18:49:02 GMT -5
It is a great song.. but not all great songs do well on radio..[country radio anywho]... With that said, I still don't think the song is over... Give it time.. I could see a peak of 15 now.. Does anyone know the last Shania single to not go top 20? Ka-Ching and Thank You Baby didn't even chart, even though they both had expensive videos made and were released to all formats...
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Post by someguy on Mar 23, 2005 18:55:18 GMT -5
Ka-Ching and Thank You Baby didn't even chart, even though they both had expensive videos made and were released to all formats... They were never released anywhere in North America. Both songs were hits in Europe (where they were released). Shania's last song not to make the top 20 at country is "Rock This Country" in 2000.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 23, 2005 19:11:15 GMT -5
They were never released anywhere in North America. Both songs were hits in Europe (where they were released). Shania's last song not to make the top 20 at country is "Rock This Country" in 2000. Really? Cuz I heard them both on the radio...clearly they were playing the songs somewhat, and still they didn't get enough feedback for them to chart. May unreleased songs make the charts, including some Shania songs...
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Post by drock89 on Mar 23, 2005 22:07:45 GMT -5
When You Kiss Me is the only non-North American 'Up!' single to have placed on Billboard. It peaked in the low 60s.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 23, 2005 22:20:28 GMT -5
When You Kiss Me is the only non-North American 'Up!' single to have placed on Billboard. It peaked in the low 60s. WOW! I thought a superstar like her would've at least placed in the top 50... Was that country or all genre? She has certainly flopped lately. Her numbers have decreased with every album since COO and it seems that Mercury keeps overshipping and overcertifying... Ah,well...back to DON't... It lost its bullet again and it keeps struggling to reach the top 20...
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Post by drock89 on Mar 23, 2005 22:39:48 GMT -5
WOW!!! And I thought I said Non-Single It's a shame that Shania is flopping because that must mean that the music industry is dead, considering that Tim, Gretchen, Kenny barely surpass her sales and Martina, Toby, Keith don't even match hers.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 24, 2005 11:26:01 GMT -5
Shania's not-so-lucky streak continues as her GH slips to 33 on Billboard Album charts with a 7% decrease in sales, and her DON'T single sputters up another single notch after more than 16 weeks, to land at 24 from 25. (Compare to Gretchen Wilson's Homewrecker that has been out 9 weeks and it's already very close to the top ten)
DON't hasn't even charted on the all-genre charts or the AC charts.,
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Post by drock89 on Mar 24, 2005 11:41:03 GMT -5
Shania's not-so-lucky streak continues as her GH slips to 33 on Billboard Album charts with a 7% decrease in sales, and her DON'T single sputters up another single notch after more than 16 weeks, to land at 24 from 25. (Compare to Gretchen Wilson's Homewrecker that has been out 9 weeks and it's already very close to the top ten) DON't hasn't even charted on the all-genre charts or the AC charts., Everyone else fell more than Twain. And wow, I wonder why it's not on AC? Maybe because it hasn't be released there yet!!!!
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 24, 2005 11:53:27 GMT -5
PF2 and IGGG charted before being officially released because they ellicited a slight interest (even if in the end they both underperformed), but DON't's appeal has been simply almost non-existant... Not complainin, though...it's one of Shania's top five worst singles ever...
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Post by Love4Shania on Mar 24, 2005 12:34:33 GMT -5
FrancineLangeInNY I gotta ask, what do you have to gain by coming here? You only come here to bash Shania and try and annoy her fans, you are just wasting your time.
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Post by reidster on Mar 24, 2005 16:43:49 GMT -5
Ka-Ching and Thank You Baby didn't even chart, even though they both had expensive videos made and were released to all formats... Ka-Ching hit NUMBER 2 on the all-genre chart in Europe... If it had been released in North America, i bet it would of hit top 5...
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 24, 2005 17:17:48 GMT -5
Yeah...everytime a Shania single from Up was released her fans would proclaim that the song would reach at least top 5, even # 1. And every single that wasn't released in America, would be called a "sure-fire top ten had it been released on these shores"
History proved that the UP singles all performed in a mediocre way (except for FAFA) Two of them didn't even hit the top ten, and one peaked in the low 60s...
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Post by reidster on Mar 24, 2005 18:09:07 GMT -5
WHEN YOU KISS ME WAS NOT A SINGLE!! FOR THE 32903489023480238 th TIME
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 24, 2005 19:02:06 GMT -5
If it actually charted, it means it was played...clearly, the tepid chart performance was due to the fact that nobody cared and people who heard the song on the radio, didn't request it afterwards...The song didn't connect and thus it flopped...that's usually what happens with Shania's ballads..
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Post by reidster on Mar 24, 2005 19:11:32 GMT -5
If it actually charted, it means it was played...clearly, the tepid chart performance was due to the fact that nobody cared and people who heard the song on the radio, didn't request it afterwards...The song didn't connect and thus it flopped...that's usually what happens with Shania's ballads.. That is just like saying.. hmm.. Keg in the Closet by Kenney Chesney was a flop... or Kill Myself by Tim McGraw was a flop.. or how about Holdin' You by Gretchen Wilson.. they were all flops.. they DID chart when the CDS came out, and got little airplay, but did not make it high.. that means EVERYONE has flops
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Post by drock89 on Mar 24, 2005 19:14:09 GMT -5
If it actually charted, it means it was played...clearly, the tepid chart performance was due to the fact that nobody cared and people who heard the song on the radio, didn't request it afterwards...The song didn't connect and thus it flopped...that's usually what happens with Shania's ballads.. Once again, at the time it charted, Billboard was based on spins. CMT played the video alot for a long period. There were also some small stations that played it. It was never formally released, and the large markets had an officially single to play. What you are saying has absolutely nothing to do with its charting... On a small note: The AC single "Don't!" goes for adds today. It was pushed up from Monday, March 28th, probably to beat the holiday.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 24, 2005 19:26:17 GMT -5
And those small stations that played it didn't get any overwhelming feedback for the song... The music biz is full with legendary stories of B-sides and unreleased songs that get played on very few markets and the audience reaction is so huge and overwhelming that they slowly become HUGE hits, in spite of never being officially released.... WYKM got ZILCH from radio listeners...that's why it flopped.
So AC is adding Don't?
Another format for DON'T to under perform? Will they blame FAFA again for this single flopping on AC too?
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Post by reidster on Mar 24, 2005 19:37:46 GMT -5
so your saying any song that isn't released, but doesn't get any airplay means its flopped?.. I think not..
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Post by Marv on Mar 25, 2005 0:00:11 GMT -5
Ms Twain is NOT going away anytime soon; she has TONS of material in the gold libraries at far too many radio stations (she's #1 @ KZLA) to disappear.
As previously stated, I do listem to 'After Midnite With Blair Garner' five nights a week; she's definitely among the ten most played artists on that show, and easily #1 among female vocalists, with a minimum of three songs per show, and occassionally FOUR!!!!
If she isn't as country as Dolly or Loretta, SO WHAT???
Country PDs took LOTS of flack for playing her music when she came out, but there were lots of other artists who were equally deserving of criticism.
She certainly energized the format to a staggering degree, possibly second to that Garth fella over the past sixteen years; her success at AC certainly helped propel the sales numbers for 'TWIM' & 'COO' into the stratosphere, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 25, 2005 9:35:02 GMT -5
Oh, boy...she loses the bullet today... 23 (still stalled at 23-And Darryl Worley and Keith Urban's new songs are climbing up strongly...will probably pass her in the next couple of days) Lost both spins and audience impressions! SHANIA TWAIN Don't! 1342 Spins (down from 1394) -52
Compared to yesterday Chart....From 24 to 23 Spins....From 1370 to 1342 Aud imp..From 10.667 to 10.619
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Post by gbaby on Mar 25, 2005 16:07:37 GMT -5
I was told that this song was apparently really good, and so I'm interested in hearing it. Can someone please post a link? Thanks. :)
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 25, 2005 17:32:15 GMT -5
I was told that this song was apparently really good, and so I'm interested in hearing it. Can someone please post a link? Thanks. :) If you go to Yahoomusic.com you will find it. But I warn you: It's a derivative ballad, with cliched lyrics and a flimsy melody (plus really unispired vocals by Shania, it'a almost as if her vocal chords had been hurt immediately before recording this song and even Mutt's autotuners couldn't fix the sound)
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Post by reidster on Mar 25, 2005 18:29:33 GMT -5
^^They can listen for themselves, and form their own opinion. Everyone has opinions on songs.. Well.. You dont. [NY] You just judge the song because it is Shania who sings it
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Post by Love4Shania on Mar 25, 2005 18:52:12 GMT -5
^^They can listen for themselves, and form their own opinion. Everyone has opinions on songs.. Well.. You dont. [NY] You just judge the song because it is Shania who sings it True. Don't EVER go by what NYFake says, he is utterly biased against Shania in everything she does. ...although I am guessing most people here are already aware of that by now. ;) As for the song, I could upload it...although i'm not sure if you're allowed to actually post songs on here....there are many places online where you can hear clips of it, not sure about the full song though...
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 25, 2005 20:47:06 GMT -5
I was told that this song was apparently really good, "DON'T, one of three "new" songs on the album, is more proof of Mrs Lange's status as this generation's premiere purveyor of lifeless AC fodder" "...of the new selections, the ballad, is the one sung with less conviction by Twain, whose voice has never been too convincing an instrument to start with" "...once again, Shania Twain delivers her flimsy musical choices, pre-packaged in hype and overbursting with the musical equivalent of granola: devoid of taste, value or substance...DON'T is particularly grating because of its lyrical grandstanding that can barely disguise what the song is: Recycled Karen Carpenter, minus the late singer's vocal power and charisma..." ;)
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Post by tomasz77 on Mar 25, 2005 23:03:41 GMT -5
I like Don't!
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 26, 2005 0:38:16 GMT -5
I don't. The majority of music critics don't either. And judging by the song's tepid chart performance, radio audiences don't care for Don't either.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Mar 26, 2005 0:40:50 GMT -5
Okay, we get the point. Quit posting the same post over and over.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 26, 2005 2:02:35 GMT -5
Wrong single to release. I Ain't No Quitter is definately a guaranteed hit for Shania. I definitely agree on that.
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Post by reidster on Mar 26, 2005 9:11:26 GMT -5
"DON'T, one of three "new" songs on the album, is more proof of Mrs Lange's status as this generation's premiere purveyor of lifeless AC fodder" "...of the new selections, the ballad, is the one sung with less conviction by Twain, whose voice has never been too convincing an instrument to start with" "...once again, Shania Twain delivers her flimsy musical choices, pre-packaged in hype and overbursting with the musical equivalent of granola: devoid of taste, value or substance...DON'T is particularly grating because of its lyrical grandstanding that can barely disguise what the song is: Recycled Karen Carpenter, minus the late singer's vocal power and charisma..." ;) Would you be able to post links to those so called "quotes" please?
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