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Post by josh on Aug 6, 2013 20:18:08 GMT -5
that's why a Wednesday premiere (with the intent to debut at #1 or at least high) is best. Not Monday. 7 days of sales, 7 days of video/streaming, no clear channel deal (but still a full week of airplay) vs. 5 days of sales, 5 days of video/streaming, clear channel deal (and 6 regular days) ... Monday definitely looks better. |
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Post by The Upper Hand on Aug 6, 2013 20:38:17 GMT -5
that's why a Wednesday premiere (with the intent to debut at #1 or at least high) is best. Not Monday. 7 days of sales, 7 days of video/streaming, no clear channel deal (but still a full week of airplay) vs. 5 days of sales, 5 days of video/streaming, clear channel deal (and 6 regular days) ... Monday definitely looks better. But there is the risk of debuting at #80-100 due to airplay. And what about the clear channel deal you mentioned? Could you explain it? |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 6, 2013 21:00:14 GMT -5
that's why a Wednesday premiere (with the intent to debut at #1 or at least high) is best. Not Monday. 7 days of sales, 7 days of video/streaming, no clear channel deal (but still a full week of airplay) vs. 5 days of sales, 5 days of video/streaming, clear channel deal (and 6 regular days) ... Monday definitely looks better. doesn't streaming start on Wednesday? If so, Wednesday would yield: 7 days of airplay 7 days of streaming 5 days of sales compared to Monday's: 5 days of airplay 5 days of streaming 7 days of sales assuming it doesn't debut because of airplay those first 2 days. |
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Post by josh on Aug 6, 2013 21:03:36 GMT -5
7 days of sales, 7 days of video/streaming, no clear channel deal (but still a full week of airplay) vs. 5 days of sales, 5 days of video/streaming, clear channel deal (and 6 regular days) ... Monday definitely looks better. doesn't streaming start on Wednesday? If so, Wednesday would yield: 7 days of airplay 7 days of streaming 5 days of sales compared to Monday's: 5 days of airplay 5 days of streaming 7 days of sales assuming it doesn't debut because of airplay those first 2 days. Streaming is Monday-Sunday, like sales. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 6, 2013 21:07:02 GMT -5
well then I agree, only if you are absolutely sure, cuz I could've sworn I've heard the other way.
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Here are the Billboard Top 10 singles for exactly 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago this week.
The second week of the Hot 100 saw one of the biggest jumps towards the top in chart history at the time. "Volare" by Domenico Modugno, debuted at #54 on the new Hot 100 chart the week of Aug 4, 1958. The following week, it leaped all the way up to #2! It would be #1 soon enough, but for now, "Poor Little Fool" by Ricky Nelson continued to reign at the top of the Hot 100 for a second week.
August 11, 1958 (for week ending Aug 17, 1958)
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01 01 02 Poor Little Fool - Ricky Nelson (2 weeks at #1)
02 54 02 Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu (Volare) - Domenico Modugno (future #1)
03 02 02 Patricia - Perez Prado & His Orchestra
04 03 02 Splish Splash - Bobby Darin
05 05 02 When - Kalin Twins
06 08 02 My True Love - Jack Scott
07 04 02 A Hard Headed Woman - Elvis Presley
08 06 02 Rebel-'Rouser - Duane Eddy and his 'twangy' guitar
09 09 02 Willie And The Hand Jive - The Johnny Otis Show
10 12 02 Just A Dream - Jimmy Clanton And His Rockets
August 17, 1963
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01 01 09 Fingertips Pt 2 - Little Stevie Wonder (2 weeks at #1)
02 04 08 Blowin' In The Wind - Peter, Paul & Mary
03 03 08 (You're the) Devil In Disguise - Elvis Presley
04 02 09 Wipe Out - The Surfaris
05 06 07 Judy's Turn To Cry - Lesley Gore
06 08 07 Candy Girl - Four Seasons
07 17 03 Hello Mudduh, Hello Fadduh! (A Letter From Camp) - Allan Sherman
08 05 12 So Much In Love - The Tymes
09 10 07 More - Kai Winding
10 31 03 My Boyfriend's Back - The Angels (future #1)
August 17, 1968
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01 05 05 People Got To Be Free - The Rascals (1 week at #1)
02 01 07 Hello, I Love You - The Doors
03 02 09 Classical Gas - Mason Williams
04 11 06 Born To Be Wild - Steppenwolf
05 20 04 Light My Fire - Jose Feliciano
06 03 12 Stoned Soul Picnic - The 5th Dimension
07 08 10 Turn Around, Look At Me - The Vogues
08 09 21 Sunshine Of Your Love - Cream
09 04 11 Grazing In The Grass - Hugh Masekela
10 06 09 Hurdy Gurdy Man - Donovan
August 18, 1973
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01 04 12 Touch Me In The Morning - Diana Ross (1 week at #1)
02 02 07 Live And Let Die - Wings
03 03 09 Brother Louie - Stories (future #1)
04 01 09 The Morning After - Maureen McGovern
05 07 06 Let's Get It On - Marvin Gaye (future #1)
06 05 18 Bad, Bad Leroy Brown - Jim Croce
07 13 09 Get Down - Gilbert O'Sullivan
08 15 09 Delta Dawn - Helen Reddy (future #1)
09 09 08 Uneasy Rider - Charlie Daniels
10 11 09 Feelin' Stronger Every Day - Chicago
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Aug 6, 2013 23:55:42 GMT -5
All this speculation about whether Katy or Ga are going to hit #1 and we haven't even heard either the song. I remember when there was so much speculation when Kelly Clarkson was releasing NA - that it was a certain #1 because she was coming off such a huge era, etc. Once people heard the song, even with the heavily weighted digital sales component at the same, the public didn't buy it. I hope both songs deliver. After that, I'll root for one or both to chart well.
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Post by #Joseph.T on Aug 7, 2013 6:32:36 GMT -5
1. ROBIN THICKE β Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 270.243 (+ 0.555)
2. DAFT PUNK β Get Lucky: 163.070 (- 2.452)
3. IMAGINE DRAGONS β Radioactive: 156.831 (- 0.495)
4. MAROON 5 β Love Somebody: 145.675 (+ 1.399)
5. BRUNO MARS β Treasure: 134.105 (+ 0.937)
6. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE β Mirrors: 122.516 (- 2.653)
7. ZEDD β Clarity f/Foxes: 120.806 (+ 1.480)
8. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS β Same Love f/Mary Lambert: 104.487 (+ 0.419)
9. ANNA KENDRICK β Cups (Pitch Perfectβs Whenβ¦: 104.214 (+ 1.617)
10. CAPITAL CITIES β Safe And Sound: 95.489 (+ 1.604) β²
11. JASON DERULO β The Other Side: 95.293 (- 0.251) βΌ
12. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS β Canβt Hold Us f/Ray Dalton: 88.835 (- 0.856)
13. CALVIN HARRIS F/ELLIE GOULDING β I Need Your Love: 88.694 (+ 0.839)
14. PINK β Just Give Me A Reason: 80.123 (- 0.726)
15. PHILLIP PHILLIPS β Gone, Gone, Gone: 69.970 (- 0.154)
16. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE β Cruise f/Nelly: 68.682 (- 1.157)
17. RANDY HOUSER β Runninβ Outta Moonlight: 66.098 (- 0.042) β²
18. RIHANNA β Stay f/Mikky Ekko: 66.000 (- 0.777) βΌ
19. HUNTER HAYES β I Want Crazy: 63.576 (+ 0.563) β²
20. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE β Take Back The Night: 62.965 (- 0.159) βΌ
BRETT ELDREDGE β Donβt Ya: 60.892 (+ 0.720)
JAY Z β Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 60.490 (+ 2.019)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD β See You Again: 59.902 (+ 0.522)
KEITH URBAN β Little Bit Of Everything: 57.246 (+ 0.674)
MILEY CYRUS β We Canβt Stop: 56.470 (+ 0.604)
RIHANNA β Right Now f/David Guetta: 54.308 (+ 0.143)
J. COLE β Crooked Smile f/TLC: 45.260 (+ 0.697)
LANA DEL REY β Summertime Sadness: 38.440 (+ 2.330)
KENNY CHESNEY β When I See This Bar: 35.036 (- 0.042)
TAYLOR SWIFT β Everything Has β¦f/Ed Sheeran: 27.773 (+ 0.329)
PINK β True Love f/Lily Allen: 25.797 (+ 0.635)
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS β Turn The Night Up: 21.311 (+ 0.750)
EASTON CORBIN β All Over The Road: 49.007 (+ 0.246)
FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE β Round Here: 44.532 (+ 0.500)
PARAMORE β Still Into You: 20.845 (+ 0.748)
LABRINTH β Beneath Your Beautiful: 18.829 (+ 0.069)
ONE DIRECTION β Best Song Ever: 18.271 (+ 0.820)
NEIGHBOURHOOD β Sweater Weather: 16.409 (+ 0.148)
DRAKE β Hold On Weβre Going Home: 13.998
BONNIE MCKEE β American Girl: 12.394 (+ 0.524)
AVICII β Wake Me Up: 10.660 (+ 0.699)
PASSENGER β Let Her Go: 8.530 (+ 0.329)
BASTILLE β Pompeii: 5.733 (- 0.009)
FLO RIDA β Canβt Believe It f/Pitbull: 4.630 (+ 0.489)
SAGE THE GEMINI β Gas Pedal: 2.531 (+ 0.123)
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Post by #Joseph.T on Aug 7, 2013 7:18:21 GMT -5
finally BL get less than 1 million update,
so excited for Katy Perry and Lady Gaga ~~
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Post by Verisimilitude on Aug 7, 2013 7:19:27 GMT -5
10. CAPITAL CITIES β Safe And Sound: 95.489 (+ 1.604) β² I'm here for this.  Carrying the spirit of '80s synthpop into the top 10! |
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Post by Rocky on Aug 7, 2013 7:19:37 GMT -5
1. ROBIN THICKE β Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 270.243 (+ 0.555)
YASSS, peaking soon! It has done its job, only the huge AC gain kept it positive. It should start to decrease in three days and will hopefully fall faster after its AC peak.
JAY Z β Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 60.490 (+ 2.019)
Radio finally realized which "Justin song" deserves the big gains.
4. MAROON 5 β Love Somebody: 145.675 (+ 1.399)
This should peak #2 on Airplay. They need to perform this somewhere, because it's not selling that well and going nowhere on the third component.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 7, 2013 7:21:40 GMT -5
Adonis, it's not a "controversial" rule- I don't see much analyzing and discussion outside of fan forums.  A No. 1 debut isn't that big a deal; it is if a track hits the mark in the long run. And if a track is going to get significant airplay outside of an airplay promo, the first day or two shouldn't make much of a difference. SPRΞΞ- that would be ideal, but if a single is released Monday, what's going to stop radio from playing it then? If it's released on Wednesday to digital outlets, then it's losing two days of sales for the debut. However you look at it, one component or another isn't going to match up. And the airplay period is Wed-Tues. because BDS supplies up-the-minute audience information that can be used for the chart, whereas sales data takes longer to process. EDIT: I didn't read this page, where there was further discussion on the matter. :) |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 7, 2013 7:29:47 GMT -5
I think today will be BL's peak.
270.243M is going to be hard to beat. I bet it will be another 10 years before it happens.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 7, 2013 7:36:48 GMT -5
Last week, "Blurred Lines" was at 256.048m in Mediabase numbers; so, that's a gain of 14.195m. The BDS tally was roughly 81% of the Mediabase tally last week; if similar patterns occur for this week, the BDS tally may be i nthe neighborhood of 217-219 million.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 7, 2013 7:40:44 GMT -5
JAY Z β Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 60.490 (+ 2.019) Radio finally realized which "Justin song" deserves the big gains. Wonder if Holy Grail will put total shade on TBTN. It will probably, as TBTN hasn't taken off in sales and streaming either. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 7, 2013 8:12:24 GMT -5
Adonis, it's not a "controversial" rule- I don't see much analyzing and discussion outside of fan forums. A No. 1 debut isn't that big a deal; it is if a track hits the mark in the long run. And if a track is going to get significant airplay outside of an airplay promo, the first day or two shouldn't make much of a difference. SPRΞΞ- that would be ideal, but if a single is released Monday, what's going to stop radio from playing it then? If it's released on Wednesday to digital outlets, then it's losing two days of sales for the debut. However you look at it, one component or another isn't going to match up. And the airplay period is Wed-Tues. because BDS supplies up-the-minute audience information that can be used for the chart, whereas sales data takes longer to process. EDIT: I didn't read this page, where there was further discussion on the matter. :) I mean if they changed the rule it wouldnt be controversial. How long does it take to process digital sales? Couldn't be any longer than BDS that is also digital could it? |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 7, 2013 9:29:13 GMT -5
^Apparently, it is- otherwise the periods would match up. SoundScan sales info isn't available until at least Tuesday evening (Billboard sometimes notable numbers at that point); BDS info for all of Tuesday is pretty readily available for Wednesday.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Aug 7, 2013 9:45:50 GMT -5
^Apparently, it is- otherwise the periods would match up. SoundScan sales info isn't available until at least Tuesday evening (Billboard sometimes notable numbers at that point); BDS info for all of Tuesday is pretty readily available for Wednesday. Sometimes record companies report digital sales as early as Monday when it's a large debut. |
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 7, 2013 9:49:00 GMT -5
1. ROBIN THICKE β Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 270.243 (+ 0.555) The end is nigh. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 7, 2013 9:55:13 GMT -5
All this speculation about whether Katy or Ga are going to hit #1 and we haven't even heard either the song. I remember when there was so much speculation when Kelly Clarkson was releasing NA - that it was a certain #1 because she was coming off such a huge era, etc. Once people heard the song, even with the heavily weighted digital sales component at the same, the public didn't buy it. I hope both songs deliver. After that, I'll root for one or both to chart well. The difference between that situation and these two is that we're pretty certain promotion will continue once the song is released. Plus, that Kelly example is the complete oddity and not one to use in defence of the likelihood of something happening or not. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 7, 2013 10:12:06 GMT -5
Billboard.com
Over on the Digital Songs chart, Thicke's "Blurred Lines" (featuring Pharrell and T.I.) regains the No. 1 slot, after being temporarily dethroned by One Direction's "Best Song Ever" last week. "Blurred" sells another 405,000 downloads (up 30%), rising 2-1 on the chart. It's now the only song to have ever sold at least 400,000 downloads in four different weeks. (One Direction's "Best Song Ever," meanwhile, tumbles 1-12 on the chart with 91,000, down 72%).β¨β¨
"Blurred Lines" also overtakes Imagine Dragons' "Radioactive" to become the second-biggest-selling song of the year. "Blurred" has shifted 4.3 million, while "Radioactive" stands at 4.1 million. Ahead of both is the year's biggest seller, "Thrift Shop," by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis (featuring Wanz), with 5.8 million.β¨β¨
Miley Cyrus' "We Can't Stop" rises 3-2 with 173,000 (down 9%) while Jay Z's "Holy Grail" (featuring Justin Timberlake) ascends 4-3 with 162,000 (up 2%).β¨β¨
Imagine Dragons' "Radioactive" moves 5-4 (155,000; down 3%), Anna Kendrick's "Cups" jumps 11-5 (110,000; up 8%), and Florida Georgia Line's "Cruise" steps 7-6 (108,000; down 10%).β¨β¨
Daft Punk's "Get Lucky," featuring Pharrell Williams, moves 8-7 (103,000; down 9%), and Capital Cities' "Safe and Sound" zips into the top 10 with a 12-8 rise (nearly 103,000; up 1%). Avicii's red-hot "Wake Me Up!" flies 32-9 with 100,000 (up a whopping 88%) while Macklemore and Lewis' "Same Love" is steady at No. 10 with 97,000 (down 7%).β¨β¨
Digital track sales this past week totaled 22.8 million downloads, down 2% compared with last week (23.2 million) and down 6% stacked next to the comparable week of 2012 (24.1 million). Year-to-date track sales are at 798.1 million, down 3% compared with the same total at this point last year (821.4 million).β¨β¨
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 7, 2013 10:16:08 GMT -5
Wow at "Cups" and "Wake Me Up!." Great to see "Safe and Sound" in the top ten in digital sales now!
"Best Song Ever," though...
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Post by Verisimilitude on Aug 7, 2013 10:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 10:24:02 GMT -5
So Best Song Ever will drop out. Good, good good.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 7, 2013 10:31:14 GMT -5
Without the fiasco I could see BL selling another 25-50K even more.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 7, 2013 10:34:40 GMT -5
The digital sales for a single are an estimate, though, no? In any event, that's the reason Billboard has given for using the different tracking periods, so we gotsa accept it.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Aug 7, 2013 10:44:13 GMT -5
So next week "Blurred Lines" may sell 300-350k at least. Then the following week another 300k?
Things don't look easy for "Roar" to reach #1 on the Hot 100.
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Post by surreallife on Aug 7, 2013 11:14:59 GMT -5
Ugh, the digital songs top10 is so boring right now. Only 13,000 downloads separating #5 from $10, and the #5 song sold only 110,000 downloads, which is pretty low. The appropriately named "Wake Me Up!" has an outside chance of going to #1, if overseas success is any indication (it is #2 on the Global Track Chart behind the ubiquitous "Blurred Lines").
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 7, 2013 11:21:38 GMT -5
The digital sales for a single are an estimate, though, no? I don't think so. It just takes a while for all of that data to be compiled correctly, whereas airplay is much faster to compile. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 11:27:50 GMT -5
Why is that though? Isn't sales data all computerized. Why does it take so much time to compile it.
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