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Post by Kurt on Nov 25, 2013 21:32:52 GMT -5
No one cares about HAC radio ( :'( ), but "Say Something" was top 30 there by the time Christina came along, so its success was building, at least. I definitely agree that Christina's new feature kickstarted that success, especially on pop (where it otherwise would have been a non-factor until at least March), but I think it's fair to say it would likely have built into a hit - at least on HAC radio - eventually. (Also worth noting that this isn't their first single on that format; "This Is The New Year" - the song that was covered on Glee and led to their label deal - peaked at #39, so this had already outpaced it.)
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Post by Verisimilitude on Nov 25, 2013 21:36:12 GMT -5
No one cares about HAC radio ( :'( ), Taylor Swift does.
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Post by allow that on Nov 25, 2013 21:48:45 GMT -5
No one cares about HAC radio ( :'( ), but "Say Something" was top 30 there by the time Christina came along, so its success was building, at least. I definitely agree that Christina's new feature kickstarted that success, especially on pop (where it otherwise would have been a non-factor until at least March), but I think it's fair to say it would likely have built into a hit - at least on HAC radio - eventually. (Also worth noting that this isn't their first single on that format; "This Is The New Year" - the song that was covered on Glee and led to their label deal - peaked at #39, so this had already outpaced it.) I agree. However, even more than Christina's feature itself kickstarting this, I think it's the high profile promotion that kickstarted it. Had the band been gifted The Voice and American Music Awards performance slots without Christina, I'm sure that would have amounted into substantial downloads. I can't help but feel it's the song itself that's fueling the success. It's clearly resonating with the public and with more exposure comes more sales. If it were strictly pent-up public demand for new Christina, we'd see better sales of her own material when it's released... but we don't. Another one of "those songs" is Passenger's "Let Her Go." A few radio stations started testing the water with that one a full year ago; now it's only just blowing up at Pop radio after a very slow, very steady, very organic climb. Christina helped "Say Something" by exposing it, yes. Did she help it by adding her vocals? There's really no way to tell, but it's fair to say she didn't hurt it. I don't think it's fair to say she MADE it though. It probably would have been another case of Passenger eventually anyway.
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Post by Kurt on Nov 25, 2013 21:50:20 GMT -5
No one cares about HAC radio ( :'( ), but "Say Something" was top 30 there by the time Christina came along, so its success was building, at least. I definitely agree that Christina's new feature kickstarted that success, especially on pop (where it otherwise would have been a non-factor until at least March), but I think it's fair to say it would likely have built into a hit - at least on HAC radio - eventually. (Also worth noting that this isn't their first single on that format; "This Is The New Year" - the song that was covered on Glee and led to their label deal - peaked at #39, so this had already outpaced it.) I agree. However, even more than Christina's feature itself kickstarting this, I think it's the high profile promotion that kickstarted it. Had the band been gifted The Voice and American Music Awards performance slots without Christina, I'm sure that would have amounted into substantial downloads. I can't help but feel it's the song itself that's fueling the success. It's clearly resonating with the public ad with more exposure comes more sales. If it were strictly pent-up public demand for new Christina, we'd see better sales of her own material when it's released... but we don't. Absolutely - and if the song weren't any good, Christina wouldn't have saved it, as you said.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 25, 2013 23:19:17 GMT -5
But the thing is they were "gifted" those slots because of Christina. Hell they've admitted to that themselves.
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Post by kimcheebeats on Nov 26, 2013 0:05:15 GMT -5
I don't understand why it is "and" Christina and not "featuring" since she's really background vocals
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 26, 2013 0:12:18 GMT -5
I don't understand why it is "and" Christina and not "featuring" since she's really background vocals Talk to A Great Big World about that.
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Post by Kurt on Nov 26, 2013 0:18:09 GMT -5
Yeah, probably business-related.
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Post by Xtina on Nov 26, 2013 0:19:21 GMT -5
They respect her and are giving her credit that she deserves!
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Post by Spidey on Nov 26, 2013 0:21:50 GMT -5
Say something, I'm giving up on you... :'(
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Post by silverwhite on Nov 26, 2013 1:39:19 GMT -5
Well if we base it on the examples given in that article then "ellipsis" doesn't really explain it since most if not all of the examples are just about avoiding repeating the same words that have already been used in the sentence again. That doesn't seem to be the case with "say something, I'm giving up on you" though, imo. I for one just take it as them exercising their right of creative license and leave it at that. It doesn't take away from the song anyways, at least for me. It can also be used when the omission of the word doesn't cause the sentence to be incomprehensible, which seems to apply for almost everyone here ;)
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 26, 2013 3:04:13 GMT -5
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Post by bunifah on Nov 26, 2013 8:21:34 GMT -5
No one cares about HAC radio ( :'( ), but "Say Something" was top 30 there by the time Christina came along, so its success was building, at least. I definitely agree that Christina's new feature kickstarted that success, especially on pop (where it otherwise would have been a non-factor until at least March), but I think it's fair to say it would likely have built into a hit - at least on HAC radio - eventually. (Also worth noting that this isn't their first single on that format; "This Is The New Year" - the song that was covered on Glee and led to their label deal - peaked at #39, so this had already outpaced it.) I agree. However, even more than Christina's feature itself kickstarting this, I think it's the high profile promotion that kickstarted it. Had the band been gifted The Voice and American Music Awards performance slots without Christina, I'm sure that would have amounted into substantial downloads. I can't help but feel it's the song itself that's fueling the success. It's clearly resonating with the public and with more exposure comes more sales. If it were strictly pent-up public demand for new Christina, we'd see better sales of her own material when it's released... but we don't. Coulda Shoulda Woulda It's just really annoying how some people just love to count Christina off and just refuse to give her some credit even when it is undeniable. That band would never been give those 2 promo slots had it not been a duet with Christina. Regardless of whatever you think could have happened to them without Christina being attached to the song, what we have as facts is that BEFORE Christina, the song was a very small indie record that hasnt crossed the 5 digits mark. Christina announces she records the song with them, the internet freak and the song has a major download experience making it past the 5 digits house. Christina's duet is released and the song sells past 100,000 copies Still people have the nerve to say 'it's the song its that's fueling the sucess more than Christina's feature'?You know what?
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Post by josh on Nov 26, 2013 8:49:59 GMT -5
A Great Big World saving careers. Pitbull could never. :'(
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Post by chinacandy on Nov 26, 2013 9:51:17 GMT -5
A Great Big World saving careers. Pitbull could never. :'( Interest in Christina is sky high thanks to Pitbull and Feel this Moment. There is no denying that. Charismatic is right; she gained a few million Twitter followers over the course of Feel this Moment's chart run. I, for one, would not be checking out for this song or Christina had it not been for Mr. Worldwide. But all that doesn't matter because I love this song :)
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 26, 2013 11:06:19 GMT -5
Err, you mean Maroon 5 but it's okay. I won't tell anyone. Shhh
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Post by kimcheebeats on Nov 26, 2013 11:46:20 GMT -5
A Great Big World saving careers. Pitbull could never. :'( Interest in Christina is sky high thanks to Pitbull and Feel this Moment. There is no denying that. Charismatic is right; she gained a few million Twitter followers over the course of Feel this Moment's chart run. I, for one, would not be checking out for this song or Christina had it not been for Mr. Worldwide. But all that doesn't matter because I love this song :) I think it has more to do with her weight loss than ftm. She's much nicer on tv now too
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Post by Kurt on Nov 26, 2013 18:05:38 GMT -5
Most added with 29 adds, outpacing "Do What U Want" by one.
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 26, 2013 18:11:54 GMT -5
Most added with 29 adds, outpacing "Do What U Want" by one. Added by KAMP as well. This is set to be huge is KAMP is jumping on board this early.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 26, 2013 18:37:51 GMT -5
Wow! Hopefully the larger spin increases start coming this week.
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Post by chinacandy on Nov 27, 2013 0:49:43 GMT -5
Err, you mean Maroon 5 but it's okay. I won't tell anyone. Shhh Maron 5 didn't do anything for Xtina's career. She was a big fat flop this time last year with Just a Fool and Lotus. Pitbull has managed to reignite her career to a whole new level.
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Post by Hussy on Nov 27, 2013 1:23:43 GMT -5
Err, you mean Maroon 5 but it's okay. I won't tell anyone. Shhh Maron 5 didn't do anything for Xtina's career. She was a big fat flop this time last year with Just a Fool and Lotus. Pitbull has managed to reignite her career to a whole new level. Girl watch ur words !!!! and enough already with the delusional Pitbull saving careers > i admit that he saved the career of ONE female artist, she is JLO ... not to mention that the awesome catchy song OTF helped as well (not just ur hitbull) so STOP !!!
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 27, 2013 8:09:01 GMT -5
A GREAT BIG WORLD – Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 20.016 (+ 1.371)
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Post by Caviar on Nov 27, 2013 8:11:45 GMT -5
My body isn't ready. :'(
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Post by Xtina on Nov 27, 2013 8:29:09 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me that update!
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 27, 2013 8:33:00 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me that update! It's overall airplay increased 1.371 million in audience. The songs first million update.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 27, 2013 11:16:45 GMT -5
A Great Big World's "Say Something," featuring Christina Aguilera, rebounds 12-6 with 121,000 (up 59%)
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Post by dbhmr on Nov 27, 2013 13:05:42 GMT -5
Still people have the nerve to say 'it's the song its that's fueling the sucess more than Christina's feature'?...of course it's the quality of the song that's fueling the success more than Christina's feature. How could it be anything else? If the song sucked and/or didn't connect with people, it wouldn't go anywhere. Small indie bands/artists like this have had songs that connect with the public and pop radio over and over again, particularly these counter-dance-type songs in the past few years (Owl City, Foster the People, Gotye, Lorde, The Neighborhood, etc.), not to mention the increasing prevalence of piano-driven ballads. To look at it another way, Christina has released some perfectly good songs/features and/or songs that were capable of connecting with audiences that didn't--Your Body, Just A Fool, Castle Walls. But they didn't take off. There are other things at work here than Christina sending this to the top. It's a great song that has the counter-sound that can really work with pop radio. What usually happens, however, is that it takes quite some time--then it explodes and the band is invited to all the big shows to promote. Christina became a part of this song, however, and all that was handed to them much more easily. Which is a huge part of its immediate success, but given Christina's recent track record on radio, that probably points much more to the exposure than the actual sonic presence of Christina. Take "The Dog Days Are Over"--that song exploded after Florence + The Machine performed it on the VMAs. Songs like this either need time to build or exposure; this song received the latter, thanks to Christina, but if the song wasn't going to connect or wasn't good, all the exposure and pretty Christina singing wouldn't have propelled it to success.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Nov 27, 2013 13:24:40 GMT -5
^ Not to mention Christina's vocals are so diminished here that she is almost unrecognizable to the general public.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 27, 2013 13:59:53 GMT -5
Yes because we've polled the general public....
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