Billboard Hot 100 : 02/15/2014

[Daniel Collins]

So even the top 50 is not really the 50 Most popular songs in the US because of this "recent recurrent songs".

[slw84]

Feb 6, 2014 14:22:00 GMT -5 @antigonerising said:

Feb 6, 2014 7:56:15 GMT -5 slw84 said:

I feel as though pharrel might sneak in a week or two but Katy's video will most likely give it a strong boost in its 4th week at #1 and beyond.
Already dark horse has blocked drunk in love and another #2 peak song.

I wonder how many dark horse will block in its totals run.
I just hope happy s one or two weeks at #1 wont stop katy from a 10week achievement.

You think she'll sit on the video for another month? I would think if she holds on to the video for that long it might actually have no effect b/c the anticipation will be mostly gone. It really comes down to whether Happy will be more of a dark horse itself (multi-week sales monster which keeps it lodged at #1 for a while) or a Get Lucky (consistent but not enough to beat out the monster in front of it). When Katy releases the video isn't going to make a difference in how DH affects that.

Oh, i thought she just did the video. The sooner the better...

[josh]

Feb 6, 2014 18:19:25 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

So even the top 50 is not really the 50 Most popular songs in the US because of this "recent recurrent songs".

It's been that way the entire time they've had recurrents, though. (not sure if they ever didn't have recurrents) At least now it's *possible* for recurrents to re-enter, whereas before nothing could re-enter. I think unless it was being pushed as a single again.

[Gary]

If they did this they could have occurrences where songs that incur gradual declines would repeatedly re-enter. They may want to avoid this


But I agree, the top 50 of the week should represent the 50 most popular, butmany times in cases such as this, it doesn't

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Feb 6, 2014 19:03:05 GMT -5 slw84 said:

Feb 6, 2014 14:22:00 GMT -5 @antigonerising said:

You think she'll sit on the video for another month? I would think if she holds on to the video for that long it might actually have no effect b/c the anticipation will be mostly gone. It really comes down to whether Happy will be more of a dark horse itself (multi-week sales monster which keeps it lodged at #1 for a while) or a Get Lucky (consistent but not enough to beat out the monster in front of it). When Katy releases the video isn't going to make a difference in how DH affects that.

Oh, i thought she just did the video. The sooner the better...

I think she did just finish it recently (they weren't expecting DH to hit the top this quickly, apparently) but since it has, it doesn't make much sense to hold on to it.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Feb 6, 2014 20:07:54 GMT -5 josh said:

Feb 6, 2014 18:19:25 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

So even the top 50 is not really the 50 Most popular songs in the US because of this "recent recurrent songs".

It's been that way the entire time they've had recurrents, though. (not sure if they ever didn't have recurrents) At least now it's *possible* for recurrents to re-enter, whereas before nothing could re-enter. I think unless it was being pushed as a single again.

Get me bodied was allowed to reenter why wasnt get lucky?

[slw84]

Feb 6, 2014 20:26:20 GMT -5 @antigonerising said:

Feb 6, 2014 19:03:05 GMT -5 slw84 said:

Oh, i thought she just did the video. The sooner the better...

I think she did just finish it recently (they weren't expecting DH to hit the top this quickly, apparently) but since it has, it doesn't make much sense to hold on to it.

True. i just thought it took a couple of weeks to edit a video but if they have it ready then I'm in agreement.

[Old-school 72]

It would be great if songs stayed on the entire chart until they were done. Re-entered when a spurt in popularity happened. I love the British charts and every other countries charts because they allow this. Who cares if a song stays on for 2 yrs, or longer. Dont stop believin by Journey should have been able to reenter back when it was selling on Itunes . If they allow certain songs to reenter because any type of promo or commercial , then all songs with enough points should be able to reenter and not just above the Top 50. There is 100 positions on the chart, then if a song was the 77th most popular for the week. Then place it at #77.

[jayhawk1117]

I feel like has only a few (2 or 3) weeks before the video comes out because any later there will be no anticipation, it'll be more like "O Dark Horse has a music video finally." and in 4 weeks time happy or talk dirty will already have caught in airplay and the sales lead won't be that massive anymore, so there's an ever shrinking timeframe now. Lets hope she doesn't pull a Rihanna and wait 4 months after Dark Horse is off the charts and expect it to do something

[superbu]

Feb 5, 2014 20:27:16 GMT -5 jebsib said:

Peigan - I just emailed Silvio over at Billboard about that no airplay Hot 100 period - he says that no one knows about it... and he's been there for 15 years!
He was fascinated, and double checked with two Billboard historians:
They think it didn't in fact last 5 years, but probably just a matter of months as an experiment.

Until we find a definitive article explaining when they brought back airplay, I guess that's it.

There is some evidence to support it being five years. Special thanks to JDM1961 at Top40MusicOnCD for finding this a year or two ago:

The following is from an article that appeared on page 3 of the May 11, 1968 issue of Billboard. (You can find it using Google Books.)

"BB SHEDS AIRPLAY FACTOR IN TOP HALF OF HOT 100

The top half of Billboard's Hot 100 chart will no longer utilize the airplay ingredient it had been using in the past because of the number of Top 40 format stations which have changed the tabulating process of their printed playlists. This part of the chart is now being tabulated solely from dealers' sales reports from 21 markets across the country.

For the past several months, Top 40 stations have been leaning toward a tighter printed playlist. Many records on their way up have been dropped from station lists making room for stronger new product, or because the station management decided the sound of the disk was not what they desired for their audience, despite the fact that there were sales in the market.

The bottom half of the "Hot 100" and the "Bubbling" chart still involves the ingredients of dealer sales reports and the Top 40 stations' printed lists. In this area of the chart, the airplay reflection is required for the newer product to enable chart movement.

With this change, in the first 50 positions, the "star performer" rating in that area is now based upon a 25 per cent increase in dealer sales reports for the individual record from one week to the next. Similarly, disks in the bottom half of the "Hot 100" chart must reflect an across-the-board increase of 25 per cent in both dealer sales reports and Top 40 airplay combined."

I did a little research of my own, and here's the evidence that the policy quite possibly lasted up to five years:

A full year after this policy was announced, in June or July of 1969 (there are missing issues online) up through 6/9/73, the notation at the top of each chart explaining what a "star" next to a song meant was changed. It had previously been defined as the somewhat vague, "Sides registering greatest proportionate upward progress this week." But in the summer of '69, it was changed to read: "STAR PERFORMER--Records showing greatest increase in RETAIL SALES ACTIVITY over the previous week, based on actual market reports." So, from the summer of '69 until Jun 9, 1973, the Hot 100 SPECIFICALLY said that their "star" awards were for retail sales ONLY. If the "no-airplay top 50" was a very brief experiment, as the Billboard employees believe, why did Billboard change their definition of a "Star Performer" to a sales-only description a full year after the policy was announced, and then leave that description intact for another four years?

On 6/9/73, a front-page article in Billboard entitled "Billboard Launches Super Singles Chart" detailed that, due to the dwindling commercial singles market, the Hot 100 would expand its singles surveys to one-stops (which supplied juke box operators, Billboard estimating that 50% of all singles sales were to jukebox ops), and also "increase" its airplay component. It's not clear what "increase" entailed, but it could mean that it was being factored back into the top 50 rather than only utilized for positions 51-100. Then the following week, beginning on 6/16/73, the "Star Performer" definition was again changed to: "STAR PERFORMERS: 'This Week' and 'Last Week' stars are conveyed to show records that have the greatest increase in point values." (So they scrubed the sales reference beginning that week.)

So... no definitive proof that the top 50 was sales-only from 5/11/68 until 6/9/73, but I do think it's quite possible.

[jebsib]

Superbu, Sounds good to me.

Like many of us, I was aware of the 1973 policy change (the biggest Hot 100 change ever at that point), but didn't do your research. Good job.

[pnobelysk]

Feb 7, 2014 5:40:29 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

I feel like has only a few (2 or 3) weeks before the video comes out because any later there will be no anticipation, it'll be more like "O Dark Horse has a music video finally." and in 4 weeks time happy or talk dirty will already have caught in airplay and the sales lead won't be that massive anymore, so there's an ever shrinking timeframe now. Lets hope she doesn't pull a Rihanna and wait 4 months after Dark Horse is off the charts and expect it to do something

That only happened to pour it up because of legal issiues

[areyoureadytojump]

www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/chart-alert/5901120/chart-moves-john-legend-sara-bareilles-hit-new-highs-imagine

Chart Moves: John Legend, Sara Bareilles Hit New Highs; Imagine Dragons Close In On Hot 100 History; Daft Punk's 'Lucky' Grows Post-Grammys

By Gary Trust, New York | February 09, 2014 8:24 AM EST

As previously reported, Katy Perry's "Dark Horse," featuring Juicy J, spends a second week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and Beyonce's "Drunk in Love," featuring Jay Z, darts 13-2. Who else makes notable moves on Billboard song charts this week?

-- John Legend: The crooner reaches his highest position on the Hot 100, as "All of Me" jumps 27-17. He'd previously peaked as high as No. 24 with his breakout hit "Ordinary People" in 2005 and "Green Light" in 2008. "All" ascends 15-11 on Digital Songs with a 53% gain to 131,000 downloads sold, according to Nielsen SoundScan, after Legend sang the piano ballad at the Grammy Awards, broadcast live on CBS on Jan. 26.

"All" also moves 2-1 on the Adult R&B Nielsen BDS-based airplay chart, marking his second topper on the tally. In 2012, he led for seven weeks with "Tonight (Best You Ever Had)."


-- Sara Bareilles: Following her performance of "Brave" with Carole King (in a medley with the latter's "Beautiful") at the Grammy Awards, it reaches a new Hot 100 peak (26-23) in its 34th week. The song, up by 14% to 87,000 sold (a new weekly high), completes the chart's third-longest trip to the top 25; AWOLnation's "Sail" reached the region in 51 weeks, while Of Monsters and Men's "Little Talks" needed 35 frames. Speaking of "Sail" …

-- AWOLnation: Here's the latest on "Sail" and Imagine Dragons' "Radioactive" in their quests to make history on the Hot 100. Logging its 75th week, "Radioactive" (33-13; read below for details) is now one frame from tying for the Hot 100's longest-charting hit, a mark held by Jason Mraz's "I'm Yours" (76 weeks, 2008-09). Meanwhile, AWOLnation's "Sail" (42-47) also remains in the running for the record, as it earns its 74th week on the tally, the chart's third-longest stay.
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-- Luke Bryan: Bryan logs his eighth No. 1 on the Nielsen BDS-driven Country Airplay chart with "Drink a Beer" (2-1); it holds at No. 35 on the Hot 100. He'd most recently ruled Country Airplay with "Crash My Party," which spent three weeks on top last July.

-- One Direction: After charting for a week at No. 12 as a preview cut from the band's new album of the same name, "Midnight Memories" returns to the Hot 100 at No. 68 following the Jan. 31 premiere of its official video. With 89% of its Hot 100 owed to streams, it enters Streaming Songs at No. 21 (2.8 million U.S. streams, up 403%), according to BDS.

-- Imagine Dragons: As "On Top of the World," the fourth single from the band's debut album "Night Visions," bows at No. 100 on the Hot 100, second release "Radioactive" blasts 33-13, up 239% to 208,000 downloads sold, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Of the sum, 73% is from the version featuring Kendrick Lamar after the group and rapper performed the song together at the Grammys.

-- Daft Punk: "Get Lucky," Grammy winner for record of the year and best pop duo/group performance, rebounds 4-2 on Hot Dance/Electronic Songs, the track’s best position since Aug. 31, when it dipped 1-2 after a 13-week run at No. 1. The song is currently spending its 42nd consecutive week in the top 10, its entire chart run. "Lucky" is the list's top Digital Gainer (112,000, up 122%) and Streaming Gainer (3.1 million, up 92%).

-- U2: While the band remains in the Triple A top 10 (at its No. 7 peak) with its Academy Award-nominated and Golden Globe-winning "Ordinary Love," from the "Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom " biopic, the band enters Rock Airplay at No. 35 with new track "Invisible." The new song, in partnership with (RED) and Bank of America, raised more than $3 million for the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria in 36 hours (Feb. 2-3) via free downloads on iTunes. (All proceeds from additional copies of "Invisible" sold for $1.29 beginning on Feb. 4 will also contribute to the Global Fund).

"Invisible," which, according to U2 frontman Bono, will not be the first single from the band's 13th studio album, expected this year, debuts after its first day of airplay with 2.2 million audience impressions from plays at 50 Rock Airplay reporters.

-- Suuns: The band bows on Hot Rock Songs at No. 50 with "2020." Almost all the song's chart points are from streaming, as the Montreal band's track drew 446,000 U.S. streams following its inclusion in a Nike Flyknit Super Bowl (Feb. 2) commercial featuring a host of athletes, including Richard Sherman of the newly-crowned champion Seattle Seahawks.

[mluv]

I'm really confused on how Billboard decides which streams to include and which to discount. Suuns charts because of a Nike commercial but the Budweiser commercial using Let Her Go doesn't count. What's the difference?

[HolidayGuy]

$3 million from downloads of U2's single? Does that mean 2.3 million or so downloads? :o

mluv- it has to do with how something is categorized on YouTube. I know- silly.