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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 5, 2014 17:07:13 GMT -5
The Hot 100 has always had sales and airplay and always will. No it won't. Don't be so sure of that. No one saw Harlem Shake coming. Sales will likely be in the HOT 100 for the foreseeable future. However, airplay is another story altogether. Huh? So you are saying that Billboard will remove sales or airplay from the Hot 100 one day? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 17:08:09 GMT -5
:OPhew! Don't mean to be a hater but I'm relieved that DIL isn't (and probably won't be) #1! Thank you Katy Perry! Oh, thanks for sharing [2]. (I'll never understand when people think it's relevant to state which song they do or don't want to be at a given position. Do they just like hearing themselves? What does it have to do with contributing to an actual, multi-faceted conversation about the charts? It's not constructive at all, smh) It seems as though you're offended by that...I just simply don't like the song (at least for now, maybe in the future it will grow on me like some other songs do and I will start to like it); why is that such a problem? |
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Post by allow that on Feb 5, 2014 17:13:00 GMT -5
Oh, thanks for sharing [2]. (I'll never understand when people think it's relevant to state which song they do or don't want to be at a given position. Do they just like hearing themselves? What does it have to do with contributing to an actual, multi-faceted conversation about the charts? It's not constructive at all, smh) It seems as though you're offended by that...I just simply don't like the song (at least for now, maybe in the future it will grow on me like some other songs do and I will start to like it); why is that such a problem? It's not a problem. It's not relevant to the conversation at hand whether you hate or love "Drunk In Love" or any other song. People don't care one way or another and it contributes nothing to the topic at hand. So why share? This topic is about the Hot 100. This isn't about you. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Feb 5, 2014 17:16:47 GMT -5
No it won't. Don't be so sure of that. No one saw Harlem Shake coming. Sales will likely be in the HOT 100 for the foreseeable future. However, airplay is another story altogether. Huh? So you are saying that Billboard will remove sales or airplay from the Hot 100 one day? Im saying it's possible. That's all I said. |
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Post by 3m3r7c on Feb 5, 2014 17:17:18 GMT -5
So nobody knows what caused Sail to fly back up iTunes?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 17:19:15 GMT -5
It seems as though you're offended by that...I just simply don't like the song (at least for now, maybe in the future it will grow on me like some other songs do and I will start to like it); why is that such a problem? It's not a problem. It's not relevant to the conversation at hand whether you hate or love "Drunk In Love" or any other song. People don't care one way or another and it contributes nothing to the topic at hand. So why share? This topic is about the Hot 100. This isn't about you. well if I'm not mistaken westlifefan4eva or whatever his name is was doing the exact same thing, talking sh*t about songs like Thrift Shop (which happened to be my favorite song of the year 2013 as well as the Billboard Hot 100 #1 song of 2013, so his sh*t-talking really pissed me off). Also ADONIS was talking about how he hoped Radioactive not to break the record. How come it's acceptable for them to do that? I don't have a problem with what you're saying, it's understandable that the thread is not for personal opinion, but rather for discussion/questions but I was under the impression that other people are doing the same thing so I did as well... |
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Post by allow that on Feb 5, 2014 17:25:39 GMT -5
It's not a problem. It's not relevant to the conversation at hand whether you hate or love "Drunk In Love" or any other song. People don't care one way or another and it contributes nothing to the topic at hand. So why share? This topic is about the Hot 100. This isn't about you. well if I'm not mistaken westlifefan4eva or whatever his name is was doing the exact same thing, talking sh*t about songs like Thrift Shop (which happened to be my favorite song of the year 2013 as well as the Billboard Hot 100 #1 song of 2013, so his sh*t-talking really pissed me off). Also ADONIS was talking about how he hoped Radioactive not to break the record. How come it's acceptable for them to do that? I don't have a problem with what you're saying, it's understandable that the thread is not for personal opinion, but rather for discussion/questions but I was under the impression that other people are doing the same thing so I did as well... Right, westlifefan4eva's post was unnecessary as well. I won't even touch on Adonis because he's been trolling this thread for years, but to be fair he also backs up his opinions with predictions or commentary a lot of the time too. If shit talking pisses you off, then why do it yourself then? I'm not trying to come across as mean (I know you're relatively new here still) and this isn't about only you (which is kind of my whole point), but in general if people are discussing chart movements, stats, making predictions, etc and the conversation is interrupted by somebody- anybody!- simply saying "I hate that song! I don't think it should be so high" it's just kind of like... cool story? Not in a mean way, but people really don't care lmao. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 17:37:59 GMT -5
Surprised by # 2 by Beyonce, tbh
I expected a top 10 this week somewhere around # 6 to # 10
but this is great!
This week also I am starting to really dig the song!
( How the hell this SHIT happen?)
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 5, 2014 17:38:19 GMT -5
People need to finally accept that streaming is a part of how the Hot 100 is tabulated. Deal, or go home.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 17:58:25 GMT -5
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 5, 2014 18:00:09 GMT -5
Huh? So you are saying that Billboard will remove sales or airplay from the Hot 100 one day? Im saying it's possible. That's all I said. Not in the next 3-5 years... It's also possible that monkeys might fly out of my butt, but I don't think it's going to happen. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 5, 2014 18:01:20 GMT -5
People need to finally accept that streaming is a part of how the Hot 100 is tabulated. Deal, or go home. And some kind of sales will always be included. And radio! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 18:02:59 GMT -5
It's also possible that monkeys might fly out of my butt, but I don't think it's going to happen. lolz |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Feb 5, 2014 18:09:23 GMT -5
So nobody knows what caused Sail to fly back up iTunes? Anyone know what caused "love don't die" and "sail" to recently shoot up iTunes the past day or so? I believe Sail was played on an episode of ABC Pretty Little Liars last night. The Fray was on the Sports Illustrated 50 year special last night and they sang "Love Don't Die" on it. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 5, 2014 18:19:52 GMT -5
music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/chart-watch-beyonce-soars-2-224113853.htmlChart Watch: Beyonce Soars To #2 By Paul Grein, Yahoo Music "Drunk In Love" by Beyonce featuring Jay Z vaults from #13 to #2 on the Hot 100 in the first full week after the power couple opened the Grammys with a racy performance of the song. It's already Beyonce's biggest hit in more than five years, since "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" logged four weeks at #1. "Drunk In Love" is Beyonce and Jay Z's fourth top five hit together, but their first since they were married in April 2008. Before that, they teamed for "'03 Bonnie & Clyde" (#4 in 2002), "Crazy In Love" (#1 in 2003) and "Déjà vu" (#4 in 2006). This is Beyonce's 15th top 10 hit as a solo artist. She also amassed 10 top 10 hits as a member of Destiny's Child. It's Jay Z's 21st top 10 hit, which extends his record as the rapper with the most top 10 hits. Lil Wayne and Ludacris share second place with 18 top 10s each. "Drunk In Love" jumps to #1 on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, displacing "The Monster" by Eminem featuring Rihanna, which held the top spot for 13 weeks. It's Beyonce's 11th #1 R&B hit (counting four hits with Destiny's Child); Jay Z's 10th. "Drunk In Love" is vying to become the fourth consecutive male/female collabo to reach #1 on the Hot 100. It would follow "The Monster," "Timber" by Pitbull featuring Ke$ha and "Dark Horse" by Katy Perry featuring Juicy J. "Dark Horse," which was also performed on the Grammys, holds at #1 for the second week. Expect it to stay on top next week, despite this week's imposing jump for "Drunk In Love": "Dark Horse" has a comfortable 45% lead over "Drunk In Love" in total Hot 100 points. "Timber" dips from #2 to #3. The song tops the 3 million mark in digital sales this week. It also becomes the second song (following "Dark Horse") to top the 1 million mark in 2014 sales. "Talk Dirty" by Jason Derulo featuring 2 Chainz jumps from #6 to #4. It's Derulo's highest-charting hit since his breakthrough hit "Whatcha Say" reached #1 in November 2009. It's 2 Chainz's highest-charting hit ever, surpassing A$AP Rocky's "F**kin Problems," on which he is featured. That song peaked at #8 a year ago. Passenger's "Let Her Go" rebounds from #7 to #6, which equals its highest ranking to date. The song was featured in a wonderful Budweiser commercial (the one with horse and the puppy) during the Super Bowl. "Let Her Go" would probably have climbed even higher, but, well, let Billboard tell the story: "Any U.S. streams for the commercial, however, do not count toward Billboard charts, as the video clip on YouTube is not categorized under the music banner from which streams are reported." As someone who watched the heartwarming YouTube clip about five times, I protest! Pharrell Williams's "Happy" jumps from #11 to #8. "Happy," which Williams wrote for the movie "Despicable Me 2," is a 2013 Oscar nominee for Original Song. This will be the second Oscar year in a row that an Original Song candidate has made the top 10. Adele's "Skyfall," the 2012 Original Song winner, climbed as high as #8 on the Hot 100. To find the last time that at least one Original Song nominee has made the top 10 in back-to-back Oscar years, you have to scroll back to 2001-2002. 2001's "There You'll Be" reached #10 (for Faith Hill). 2002's "Lose Yourself" hit #1 (for Eminem). "Happy" is Williams' seventh top 10 hit; his first as a lead artist since 2003, when "Frontin'" (featuring Jay Z) peaked at #5. "Happy" is the second song with this exact title to reach the top 10. An Ashanti song titled "Happy" reached #8 in September 2002. Lorde has two songs in the top 10 for the third week in a row. "Royals" holds at #9. "Team" drops from #8 to #10. "Royals" tops the 5 million mark in digital sales this week. Lorde was just 16 years and eight months old last July when the song entered the Hot 100. That's younger than any other artist with a song that went on to sell 5 million digital copies. Miley Cyrus was 16 years and nine months in August 2009 when "Party In The U.S.A." charted. The song is up to 5,416,000. Soulja BoyTell'Em was 17 years old (to the day!) in July 2007 when "Crank That (Soulja Boy)" charted. It's up to 5,080,000. Taylor Swift was 18 years and nine months old in September 2008 when "Love Story" charted. It's up to 5,673,000. Here's a recap of this week's top 10 songs. The Top Five: "Dark Horse" by Katy Perry featuring Juicy J holds at #1 for the second week its 20th week on the chart. This is its fifth week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #1 (373K) … "Drunk In Love" by Beyonce featuring Jay Z leaps from #13 to #2 in its seventh week on the chart. This is Beyonce's 25th top 10 hit (counting 10 hits with Destiny's Child); Jay Z's 21st.Digital sales rank: #7 (151K) … "Timber" by Pitbull featuring Ke$ha dips from #2 to #3 in its 17th week on the chart. This is its 12th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #8 (142K) … "Talk Dirty" by Jason Derulo featuring 2 Chainz jumps from #6 to #4 in its seventh week on the chart. This is its second week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #2 (234K) … OneRepublic's "Counting Stars" drops from #3 to #5 in its 33rd week on the chart. This is its 15th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #14 (125K). The Second Five: Passenger's "Let Her Go" rebounds from #7 to #6 in its 27th week on the chart. This is its 10th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #5 (176K) … "Say Something" by A Great Big World & Christina Aguilera drops from #4 to #7 in its 13th week on the chart. This is its 10th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #6 (152K) … Pharrell's "Happy" jumps from #11 to #8 in its fifth week on the chart. This is his seventh top 10 hit. Digital sales rank: #3 (219K) … Lorde’s "Royals" holds at #9 for the second week in its 31st week on the chart. This is its 23rd week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #10 (137K) … Lorde's "Team" drops from #8 to #10 in its 19th week on the chart. This is its third week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #12 (130K). Two songs drop out of the top 10 this week. "The Monster" by Eminem featuring Rihanna drops from #5. Bastille's "Pompeii" drops from #10. The drop for "Pompeii" is somewhat surprising because it's still in the top 10 on Hot Digital Songs (#9, 140K). "Pompeii" reached #1 on the Dance Club Songs chart last week, a few months after hitting #1 on the Alternative chart. Billboard's Gary Trust notes that it's only the fourth song to reach #1 on these two disparate charts. It follows New Order's "Regret" (1993), U2's "Discotheque" (1997) and "Somebody That I Used to Know" by Gotye featuring Kimbra (2012). Look for Imagine Dragons's "Radioactive" to move up today in its 75th week on the Hot 100. The song returns to the top 10 on Hot Digital Songs (#4, 208K). The band performed the song on the Grammys in a mash-up with Kendrick Lamar's "m.A.A.d city." "Radioactive" is now just one week away from tying Jason Mraz's "I'm Yours" for the longest run in the history of the Hot 100. "Suit & Tie" by Justin Timberlake featuring Jay Z tops the 3 million mark in digital sales. Their subsequent collabo, "Holy Grail," is up to 2,916,000. Both songs won Grammys last week. "Suit & Tie" won for Best Music Video; "Holy Grail" for Best Rap/Sung Collaboration. "Do What U Want" by Lady Gaga featuring R. Kelly tops the 1 million mark in digital sales. Gaga is the only artist with two of the top 10 best-selling songs in digital history. "Poker Face" is #7. "Just Dance" (featuring Colby O'Donis) is #9. "Headband" by B.o.B featuring 2 Chainz tops the 1 million mark. To My Readers: I'll have a separate Chart Watch report on this week's key movers and debuts on the Hot 100 later today. I won't recap the top 10 in that second report. It will be fresh material.
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Post by chartfreak on Feb 5, 2014 18:27:57 GMT -5
So DIL hit this high because people watched her performance on Youtube? Not saying there is anything wrong with that, but I've had trouble grasping this whole streaming, on demand, youtube inclusion to the Hot 100.
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Post by josh on Feb 5, 2014 18:33:05 GMT -5
So DIL hit this high because people watched her performance on Youtube? Not saying there is anything wrong with that, but I've had trouble grasping this whole streaming, on demand, youtube inclusion to the Hot 100. A quick search for a Grammys performance of DIL on Youtube provides nothing with big views. If you look at the daily views for the official video you see it grows from ~1 million daily before the Grammys to a peak of ~1.7 or 1.8 million views daily maybe 5 days later. So basically the boost is due to the performance but it's people actually watching the video (and it saw increases on Spotify and other places as well; obviously the actual song there), not people watching a video of the performance. |
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Post by WotUNeed on Feb 5, 2014 18:51:37 GMT -5
How can this possibly be a rule if you're a.) going to include YouTube and b.) trying to accurately represent the biggest song in the nation? Listen, I'm not for the YouTube rule, unless it's for the full song and does not include user-generated content. The rule, however, at least has to be consistent in representation. It can't be based on whether it includes a banner or not. What does that have to do with representing the biggest song in the America? If I'm reading it correctly, it's not actually talking about including banners in the sense of, say, ad banners. It's trying to say that YouTube only reports streams that fall under its banner (in the figurative sense, i.e., fall into the larger category) of music, and since YouTube hasn't classed the advert there, its streams aren't being reported, hence the numbers aren't included on the charts. Closest I can tell what is being said, anyway. |
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Post by imbondz on Feb 5, 2014 19:06:26 GMT -5
Happy being performed at the Grammys, will definitely be #1
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Post by surfy on Feb 5, 2014 19:11:05 GMT -5
Happy being performed at the Grammys, will definitely be #1 The Oscars, actually. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 19:12:03 GMT -5
Happy being performed at the Grammys, will definitely be #1 Oscars, you mean. But yeah, I also believe Happy will be the next #1 on the chart. |
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Post by TylerG11 on Feb 5, 2014 19:23:28 GMT -5
How many weeks does Dark horse have left at #1 before Happy takes over?
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Post by imbondz on Feb 5, 2014 19:23:36 GMT -5
woops. Oscars.
Drunk In Love...lame, boring song. weird that it jumped so high.
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Post by Gary on Feb 5, 2014 19:23:39 GMT -5
Huh? So you are saying that Billboard will remove sales or airplay from the Hot 100 one day? Im saying it's possible. That's all I said. There was a brief period between the late 60s and early 70s where that happened. The top 50 of the Hot 100 was a sales only chart |
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Post by Spidey on Feb 5, 2014 19:25:24 GMT -5
Lol at Billboard not counting the streams for "Let Her Go," despite counting them for past songs in commercials.
Yay! Finally another Top 10 for Beyonce! Surprised to see it moved all the way up to #2 though.
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Post by musik... on Feb 5, 2014 19:30:58 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't mind the streaming component to the Hot 100. If music can be accessed in so many different ways, why would we want a chart that excludes them? Personally speaking, I consume most of my music through the Spotify Premium service because it's more affordable considering the amount of music I consume regularly than purchasing individual tracks and I want my plays on spotify to count towards the Hot 100. Beyonce received the most tweets during the grammys and her performance was discussed on widely different TV programs ranging from daytime talk shows to cable news programs. So if people rushed to YouTube, Spotify, Beats Music, etc. to hear DIL, why does it not deserve a high-charting spot on the Hot 100? There are always gonna be examples in which a #1, #2, etc. placement relies more heavily on one component than the other, but it doesn't make the chart placement less deserving. That's what the individual component charts are for.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 19:34:56 GMT -5
How many weeks does Dark horse have left at #1 before Happy takes over? Three or four weeks, maybe? Uneducated guess on my part, but DH is just now hitting its sales peak and still has room to grow on airplay. Happy is gaining so fast that Pharrell will probably pass Katy's airplay in the next two-three weeks, but then the sales and streaming would also have to catch up and that might not happen until after the Oscars air (3/2). |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 5, 2014 19:36:07 GMT -5
Lol at Billboard not counting the streams for "Let Her Go," despite counting them for past songs in commercials. Yay! Finally another Top 10 for Beyonce! Surprised to see it moved all the way up to #2 though. Yet they did it for a FOREIGN commercial that included a 13-year old song (OT was released in 2000). This is the type of manipulation and inconsistency that really irks me. So a Chatroulette parody can launch WB to #1, random 30-second ads push HS to huge points, but a video that was watched by millions is excluded because of an alleged technicality? GMAB |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 19:39:36 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't mind the streaming component to the Hot 100. If music can be accessed in so many different ways, why would we want a chart that excludes them?. I like the addition of streaming (one of the few changes BB has gotten right in the past few years, imo), personally I regard it as the internet equivalent of radio airplay. I just think the Hot 100 formula is wonky and inconsistent at best and suspiciously nontransparent at worst. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Feb 5, 2014 19:50:29 GMT -5
Im saying it's possible. That's all I said. Not in the next 3-5 years... It's also possible that monkeys might fly out of my butt, but I don't think it's going to happen. Better get tested. LOL! Billboard has been diminishing airplay's importance on the HOT 100 for years now. I don't see that trend stopping. |
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